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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Link: Puerto Rico Wants In: The 51st State? - Good idea? Bad idea? And what the f**k are we gonna do with the American flag and an odd number of stars? BEDLAM!
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    Bachi-Atari Male 18-29
    263 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    I click. Y U NO WORK?!
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    Profworm Male 30-39
    379 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    It probably won`t happen this time. The vote barely passed, and the party that supported it had their candidate voted out of office. Still, the only reason they aren`t a state is that they haven`t wanted it... That and we like big round numbers.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Over 60% favored statehood.


    But it still might not happen. They have to make decisions about how it will be integrated and what not. One big thing would be the language. Fortuno originally had a plan to make all of Puerto Rico`s schools English as a plan for statehood.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    Noooo...we`ll have to change all the flags now!

    Seriously, though. If they want it, let them have it. They pay taxes.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Have I misread it, or did the poll only contain 3 options for change (i.e. no option for remaining with the current status)?

    Also, was it an informed choice? Or was it more a case of being promised more money and power for free?

    The odd number of stars opens up the possibility of a redesign! You can arrange those stars any way you like. A message in Morse code, perhaps :) Or a star, to wind up the alien conspiracy nutters :)
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6203 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    Would look like this:

    http://tinyurl.com/bfbanmh

    Barely noticeable.
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    Smutleybutt Male 18-29
    1377 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 6:01 pm



    Maybe like this.
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    YANKmyDOODLE Male 30-39
    771 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    Do it up!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    Angillion, there were two questions in the referendum. The first said, "Do you want the current status?" A majority rejected that. The second question had three options to choose from, they chose statehood.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
    2676 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 7:22 pm
    Statehood would be great for them ... but lousy for the "other" 50 states. They want all the perks and none of the drawbacks of being a state. It shouldn`t work that way.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    Although, technically, a minority of Puerto Ricans voted in favor of statehood. 1.8 million voted on the status. Only 800,000 voted for statehood. 470,000 left their ballots blank, presumably because they wanted an option not in the question, probably the status quo that can`t be maintained, the UN doesn`t like because they don`t have representation.

    So the 61% in favor does not include the nearly half million blank ballots.
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    Profworm Male 30-39
    379 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    Lets just scrap the US flag in favor of one that doesn`t look awful. Seriously, we have one of the worst flags in the world.

    At least simplify the thing.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 8:05 pm
    Six rows of stars; 8 stars, 9 stars, 8, 9, 8, 9. There - now you can go ahead!
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    pfkdxius Male 18-29
    314 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    Runemag, in what sense would they get "none of the drawbacks of being a state"? The article clearly says they would pay the usual taxes.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    Proform, I would take our flag any day over one of those boring European tricolors that clearly lack creativity. Plus many actually compliment the look of our flag, a flag that actually represents things.

    But may I remind everyone - a majority did NOT vote for statehood in Puerto Rico. Back to 50 states, all.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Trust me, guys, you really DON`T want in. Rats don`t climb onto a sinking ship.
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    Roland Male 30-39
    288 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    Yay, Puerto Rico! We`ve been waiting for you to become an official member of our (disfunctional) family for a long time!
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    Instead of that idea, can we give them California and New York? We don`t need those festering, stinking, rats nests cluttering up our coasts anymore.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6203 posts
    November 8, 2012 at 10:40 pm
    AvatarJohn

    "Instead of that idea, can we give them California and New York? "

    Hahaha. What a f.ucking joke. Yes. Let`s give up the states with the highest concentration of business, wealth, arts, culture, and innovation.

    You`re from the south right? What does your state contribute? Honey Boo Boo?

    You do realize that if the Union would have let the south secede you`d be like North Korea to our South Korea now, right?
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    klaxor Male 18-29
    646 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 1:37 am
    "Instead of that idea, can we give them California and New York? We don`t need those festering, stinking, rats nests cluttering up our coasts anymore." ~ You do realize that you can`t move states... They`re still going to be there
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 1:54 am
    OldOllie: "Trust me, guys, you really DON`T want in. Rats don`t climb onto a sinking ship."

    What a patriot.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
    878 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 2:46 am
    In my opinion if you can`t walk there from Washington without crossing a foreign country or getting your feet wet it shouldn`t be a state. We have enough trouble trying to draw a map of the States now by having to jiggle Hawaii and Alaska into a corner.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 5:16 am
    I like the flag with the circle but that`s probably too much of a change for most people.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:03 am
    HolyGod, the South would still be one of the world`s top economies. California and New York used to be the centers of innovation and what not, but now they are all dying. California is literally bleeding jobs to Texas, and New York is bleeding them to places like New Jersey and Florida. Tax rates are the major culprit. Texas and Florida don`t even have state income tax.

    They are not what they used to be, I hope you`re ok with this.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36208 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:06 am

    Morons. Currently, as a territory, they don`t have to pay taxes. But I guess since the motivation is to become a state and get federal aid, they just want to sign up for welfare. They won`t pay taxes anyway.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3148 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:09 am
    51 may be odd, but it`s not prime.

    We were discussing this at the bar yesterday, and I came up with 3 viable solutions.

    The favorite was 7 rows that contain 7 stars, 7 starts, 8, stars, 7 stars, 8 stars, 7 stars, and 7 stars.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Guys, look at the referendum results. A majority voted AGAINST statehood. It`s only a majority if you don`t count the half million blank protest ballots. That matters.

    It`s also logical, since the pro-state governor got voted out.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6203 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Andrew155

    "the South would still be one of the world`s top economies."

    You are saying that as if they separated now. However if they separated in the 1800s and there were trade embargos the south would have none of the businesses, technologies, or industries. Their economy would be based on farming and local manufacturing.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 7:41 am
    Their economy wouldn`t have to be agriculturally based in 2012 just because it was in 1860. It`s 150 years of development.

    But the South separating would hurt the North more than the South. The South was largely used as a colony by the North to produce its raw good and the North would refine them in its factories. That`s why the slavery system endured in the South.

    So you`re also assuming that the North would have the same development level if the South separated. If it`s not true for the South, it can`t be for the North.

    The North would be completely alien from today. For instance, there would`ve been no Great Migration, and therefore almost no black people. This would`ve been bad for industrial areas like Detroit that never would`ve come into prominence otherwise. But I suppose there are some that imply having no black people would "wink wink" be the best thing for development. Whatever floats their boat.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 9:03 am
    They will become the US equivalent of Greece. Money pit
  32. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6203 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 9:53 am
    Andrew155

    "the South would still be one of the world`s top economies."

    You are saying that as if they separated now. However if they separated in the 1800s and there were trade embargos the south would have none of the businesses, technologies, or industries. Their economy would be based on farming and local manufacturing.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 10:57 am
    Don`t want in when things are good, want in when things are bad. Blow.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36208 posts
    November 9, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Who was left to vote?
    I thought all the Puerto Ricans had moved to New York.
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    NNoamfer Male 18-29
    1216 posts
    November 10, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Damn, you Americans have some awful reasons not to include Puerto Rico... Hard to draw the map? Ugly flag? Really?!

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