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42 Responses to Pat Condell On Peace In The Middle East

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Link: Pat Condell On Peace In The Middle East - He tells it like it is, no holds barred and no spin at all. Love him or hate him, he`s honest!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    This is spot on!
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    Cherrybawls Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    Lol, no spin... right
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    It`s hard to argue with this.
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    mesovortex Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    Religion is the problem on BOTH sides. Hamas are idiots because of their religion. Israel thinks they should drag the rest of the world into war with them because of their religion.

    Leave them both alone and let them figure it out themselves. Whether only a few are left, all, or none, eventually they`ll figure out their problem is religion.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    "...especially the children, whose bodies make wonderful propaganda. That`s why they deliberately put them in the firing line as fodder, as just another weapon to be used and discarded, or martyred..."

    That`s EXACTLY what I`ve been saying about jihadists for years but no one wants to listen and accept that fact. Women & children are used for the dual purpose of being human shields as well as for propaganda to gain sympathy in the western world because they know how outraged people over here get when we hear innocent people were killed.
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    DinVen Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Liveleak objectivity.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    All this talk of Hamas and falafel is making me hungry!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Keep using your children as shields it shows people who choose to see the truth what you really are BTW hadjis!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    @mesovortex: I`d call you the KING of Moral Equivalence but several other IABers have claims to that too!
    "Jews are just as bad"
    No, no they are not. Israel does not have "exterminate ALL MUSLIMS" in it`s constitution! golookitup!

    And I have an answer to the "Euro-Peans" who claim "disproportionate Jewish response": Hamasa fires 1,000+ rockets BEFORE Nov even started? IDF gets to drop 1,000+ bombs, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
    See? EQUALITY! Easy-peasy...

    NOTE: Normally Pat Condell is a little "nutty" even for me! But here he hits nails on the head, one after the other. I cannot argue with a single thing!
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    "Psychotic, murdering scumbags"- Why yes, I find that to be completely spin free.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    @Whodat & @MacGovern: The MSM (AP, Reuters & the rest) are not only willing to "overlook" obvious propoganda & present it as "real news"... they ACTIVELY HELP!

    Even when caught publishing OBVIOUS fakes as factual photos? They lie, deny & defend!

    If you only tell one side of the story, guess whaich side the public will come to believe?

    @CherryBawls: By "no spin" I mean that he makes NO apologies or "conditions" for his opinions. He just states the facts as he believes them, and fine facts they are!

    You too @CaptK! "spin" means to try to make something appear to be other than what it really is. He doesn`t "pretend" to be neutral, he tells the truth. The TRUTH is rarely "fair and balanced" eh?
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    JacobTrue13 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    No spin at all? We are talking about the same Pat FU.CKING Condell here aren`t we?!
  14. Profile photo of mesovortex
    mesovortex Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    5cats, I didn`t say Jews are just as bad - but they too think that they are owed a land because god told them so. How do you convince them otherwise?

    If two sides both think god told them A and B, they are going to each die for it. The problem on both sides is religion. Religion is going to prevent peace even if the Jews have their way because sooner or later someone else is going to lay claim to their land (as always happens in History) and they won`t budge because god told them to.

    You will never, I repeat NEVER convince a fundamentalist no matter their religion to think otherwise.

    If the fundamentalist is peaceful and bothers nobody else, I don`t care, but seldom is this the case. Israel has done a few bad things, too.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2012 at 2:32 pm
    Well said @mesovortex! And for the most part I agree. And DUH Israel`s done bad things too, but that in no way "excuses" 2,000+ rockets & mortars PER YEAR!
    #1: Palestinians HAVE a homeland, it`s called Jordan, where THEY are the majority. Yet it`s ruled by a MINORITY King... apartheid is OK suddenly?
    #2 Jews have lived in that area longer than 3,000 years. Muslims DID NOT EXIST until 600 AD. "Hamas" literally means: "Islamic Resistance Movement" ffs... NOT that the MSM EVER mentions that they`re ALL Muslims...
    #3 Just because we can never convince (fill in blank) doesn`t mean we should silently let lies spread...
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    Cherrybawls Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    @5cats I happen to agree with his position in this instance (a rarity), but to say no spin implies objectivity. A quality this video certainly lacks
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    cityncolour Male 30-39
    379 posts
    November 26, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    and this is why all religion needs to go extinct. there is no compromise with religion. no one religion is better than the other. they are all evil they all suppress critical thinking and promote oppression. to claim that one is better than the other is laughable.
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Pat is awesome.
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    We are not serious about peace in the middle east because we have a president that supports and is most likely a Muslim himself.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    I think I need CGPGrey video with lots of flow charts to understand that lack of piece in the middle east.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    No spin at all?
    If you believe that 5cats, you`ve lost your damn mind.

    cityncolour - could not agree more.

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    mesovortex Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    5cats:
    I don`t think that genocide of any group of people is a good thing, but we did nothing to prevent it in Rwanda and Sudan, even though we could have done something.

    The thing is, involvement in Rwanda or Sudan likely wouldn`t have brought the world into war. Since Israel has so many allies (and because both sides think the end of the world will favor them) they have no problem in dragging everyone else towards their idea of Armageddon.

    That`s why I say stay out and let them figure it out on their own. For the preservation of the human race, we don`t need to end it all because of their short-sightedness.
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    kittilia Female 18-29
    500 posts
    November 26, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    This whole thing makes me cringe. Just shake hands already! There`s plenty of room for both of you. Be friends. Of course that seems like it could never happen but that`s what you tell children when they fight too. That and "let them work it out among themselves."
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    November 26, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    *twitch*
    I put up an innocent political cartoon, and a shiite-storm happened...
    *twitch twitch*
    I put up Pat freakin Condell... and people are cool about it (even when they disagree!)
    *twitchy twitch twitch*
    I`ll comment further when I`m SURE I haven`t slipped into...
    The Twilight Zone!

    Official Video! (It rules!) With Lyrics!
    It`s 2 am... the fear is gone...

    But the fear comes back when the dancing Nazi-Chicks show up... poo just got real bad, real fast!
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Godwin`s Law!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 26, 2012 at 10:17 pm
    No spin at all? We are talking about the same Pat FU.CKING Condell here aren`t we?!
    Well, that certainly was a cogent and convincing argument. In just two short questions, you effectively refuted every fact he presented.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2012 at 11:18 pm
    No spin? I wish there was a way this guy were unfortunate enough to be born to an arab family in Palestine in the last 40 years, what kind of video he`d be making then? It`s easy to be an armchair critic. Each of you that thinks this is "spot on" should ponder what you`d do if you lost EVERYTHING including family.
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    mrbrainiac2u Male 50-59
    24 posts
    November 26, 2012 at 11:35 pm
    This guy is a propaganda tool. He`s talking out his ass. You don`t understand the role western media plays in lying to the public in order to mold opinion and garner support? I`ve been to Israel. I have no stake in either side of the conflict nor axe to grind but I am an advocate for truth and what has been fed to the American public on this subject (and many other important issues as well), Is plain adulterated horse sh*t. I don`t know about you but I don`t like to be lied to and this guy is an idiot. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
    The link above is a bit more acurate than the tripe this douche is attempting to spoon feed you. You may want to look things up on your own before you start going about parroting what you`ve heard on the news as fact. I know you shouldn`t have to fact check the news but in fact you do. Otherwise you too may appear as ignorant as Douchebag McBigmouth here. Thanks for your time. God
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    Laran Male 40-49
    467 posts
    November 26, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    I actually reckon Israel is quite capable of "Dealing" with Hamas but dont.
    The eyes of the world would comdemn them if they simply wiped the slate clean scorched Earth style.
    I figure let them - who am I to judge?
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:37 am
    @mrbrainiac2u, you seem to be ignorant of how the western media works, allow me to enlighten you. AFP give cameras and mikes and other equiptment to palastinians who then film any goings on. they then send it back to europe whe splash it all over the news. like that image of a man shielding a boy while being shot at by the IDF which was proven to be fake.
    also, complains about propaganda - directs to propaganda site ... what an idiot you truly are!
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    ccalhoun86 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:38 am
    @mesovortex
    "eventually they`ll find out religion is the problem." Well... that requires more faith than actual religion. Remember in the 2008 election when the repubtards went ape poo on Obama for that statement about people clinging to guns and religion? It`s true. And when they have both, things get ugly. But the problem is, they have kids, and raise them to cling to guns and religion. Nothing scarier than a 10 year old with a gun who wants to serve god by killing you...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 4:13 am
    If I was an Israeli, I`d shoot back, but if I was an American jew, I`d be mortally embarrassed by Israel.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 5:41 am
    If I was an Israeli, I`d shoot back, but if I was an American jew, I`d be mortally embarrassed by Israel.

    And if you were Palestinian?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    November 27, 2012 at 6:24 am
    Condell lost it years ago, now he just obsesses about Islam and will cosy up with anyone who feels the same.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 7:18 am
    Pat Condell is just a troll.. Nothing more..

    I don`t like Hamas. Their ideology is pretty messed up, and they`ve done some horrible things. But Israels morals are apparently not a lot better. They obviously don`t have a problem with bombing children in pursuit of their goals.

    Those things aside, Israel claims to be acting in self defence, while annexing more and more territory, sometimes privately owned by palestinian citizens, and erecting apartheid-esque walls and gates around these new settlements and the roads connecting them, to deny palestinians access to them.

    Yes. That`s right. They`re stealing land from the palestinians, and framing the palestinian people as the aggressors.

    I don`t know how most of you can completely overlook this part of the equation..
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 7:28 am
    mrbrainiac2u: Allison Weir, the woman that runs the website you linked to, is a closet nazi. She opposes Israel`s right to live in any part of Judea, has accused the Jews of Europe of instigating the Holocaust and she has written articles for David Duke`s nazi website.

    The data shown on her website is also extremely inaccurate and tries to disseminate flat-out lies about Israelis while excusing the palestinians tactics of kidnapping and hiding behind civilians.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 9:07 am
    @Kain1

    Ya like when they killed the chief of hamas by carpet bombing.... Oh no wait they use a guided missle and just killed him. If Israel wanted to wipe out Palestine they would`ve stopped exsisting long ago.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    @Kain1: After decades of negotiations, all of which the PLO violated or ignored, Israel decided to simply act on their own.
    - they pulled ALL the Jews out of Gaza
    - they build The Wall to STOP terrorists

    The Wall has done it`s job brilliantly! Terror bombings & attacks are WAY down from pre-wall days. Of course now the PLO fires rockets & mortars, because they can`t suicide-bomb as effectively...

    Hamas: Deliberately targets civilians
    IDF: Deliberately DOES NOT target civilians

    Tell me again how they`re "both the same"?
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    JonasQuim Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    No spin? never heard a more biased rant! Islamophobic daily mail wanker...
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    mrbrainiac2u Male 50-59
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    November 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    Drink the coolaid much CrakrJak? You are misinformed,(at best). Alison Weir didn`t write articles for any nazi website. You must have gleened that bit of info straight out of the mouths of Fox "news" commentators. Has anyone ever told you you`d make a wonderful parrot? Hmmm?..Anyway in an effort to keep this hyperbole and Bullsh*t free folks, here is a link to her website: http://alisonweir.org/welcome/ Take a look and you decide. PS CrakrJak I was in Israel as part of an international peacekeeping force so please don`t attempt to bullsh*t me. I lived it. Thanks
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    mrbrainiac2u Male 50-59
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    I can`t post the link here but you can see the trailer of, "If Americans Knew", on You Tube by typing: If Americans Knew-trailer.
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    fsawaged Male 18-29
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    December 3, 2012 at 12:09 am
    You started off cool but you f*cked it up with your Anti-islam hater. Now Israel is the peaceful diplomatic angels????? F*uck off. hamas dont care about their people I give you that but any religious fanatic is terrorist ignorant just like you are

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