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Date: 11/13/12 07:25 AM

20 Responses to Open Letter to the President: Physics Education

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Link: Open Letter to the President: Physics Education - If you took a class of high school physics, you`d still know nothing. That needs to change. Get your sh*t together, US.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:36 am
    LOL! He thinks High School kids as a whole are willing to learn!
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    Thonious Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:39 am
    Before this goes too far we have to ask whether the Federal government should even be involved in local schools.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:43 am
    Well, to imply that you can teach everything in physics in a high school classroom is foolish. I`m assuming they don`t go too much into the newer developments because:
    1) There just isn`t enough time
    2) You need to understand the basics before you can go into more advanced theories
    3) It`s just high school physics. I`m not expecting any high school grad to know the ins and outs of all of physics.
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:44 am
    sometimes it isnt only wether they are willing to learn, sometimes it comes down to us ,wether we are willing to teach
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 7:47 am
    LOL! He thinks High School kids as a whole are capable of learning!
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 8:57 am
    @Thonious, I was thinking the same thing. I know a good number of people who think that education should be left to local and state government. I don`t believe that, but I could hear the argument in my head when I saw this.
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    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 8:59 am
    This is factually inaccurate or vague at best.

    While I agree with the premise that more science education is a good thing, a lot of what is said here is just untrue. Moreover, it varies from state to state.

    I know for a fact that in at least this state relativity, wave-particle duality, the uncertainty principle, and the gravitational effect on light are all mandated to be taught in public high school physics classes.

    While this is not all of what he suggested was missing, it does address several of the examples that he gave. Atomic structure (yes, modern atomic structure) is taught in chemistry class as is the E-M spectrum.

    The main problem is that kids just don`t take high school physics.

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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I took all the physics classes I could in high school and I can`t see how these advanced topics could be crammed in when we were still learning basics like momentum, conservation of energy, forces, etc. Even all the college-level physics classes I took for my engineering degree didn`t go into most of these very specific subject areas.
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    Cherrybawls Male 18-29
    167 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 9:13 am
    I don`t think he wants these students to be taught the "ins and outs" of these theories, just the broad concepts so that these students are aware that these ideas exist and they may be inspired to pursue further education in physics and math.

    He is lamenting the general ignorance of the population when it comes to technology and physics. He just wants people to be aware of the modern developments in physics not to have mastered the mathematics behind them
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    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Bah! The world`s gonna end next month anyway...
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 9:46 am
    The issue with trying to fit in even more physics education into high school is that everything in high school is taught at such a slow pace. Even in AP classes you learn in a year what that same class in college would cover in one semester.

    To jam more physics teaching in to high school we need to do one or both of two things:
    1)make physics a required class for every semester you are in high school
    2)start teaching basic physics classes in middle or even elementary school
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    Omphaloskept Male 40-49
    181 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 9:54 am
    "Mr. President, imagine if history classes didn`t talk about the abolition of slavery, World Wars I or II, the Great Depression, the rise of the U.S. as a global superpower, the Cold War, or the Civil Rights movement, or, heaven forbid, the first African-American president."

    Gosh. He could have just said `imagine history classes in Texas` and saved time....
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 11:14 am
    This is largely inaccurate, coming from a former student of a high school physics class.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2012 at 11:42 am
    I think the President is a little busy to pay attention to a Canadian who narrates science videos on Youtube.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    You could fit more in if you had more time and taught it better. There`s so much pointless repetition in school.
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    I taught high school Physics for a year and I tried to squeeze as much modern physics in as possible. It is difficult because you have to meet the standards set forth by the state and most schools only offer physics as an elective. Most of the kids enjoyed the challenge of modern physics and they found it much more interesting than classic.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
    373 posts
    November 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    I am kind of surprised, having done Physics almost 20years ago in Australia, I just took it for granted studying relativity and quantum theory was a given.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 14, 2012 at 5:43 am

    So you`ve got that sustainable fusion reactor almost done then.....
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    Vimto Male 40-49
    2853 posts
    November 16, 2012 at 1:42 am
    I partially agree with what he`s saying about physics, but his knowledge of science history is a bit iffy.

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