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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Link: Inside Account Of The Israel-Palestine Conflict - Please spend a very productive and fact-filled hour seeing this so you aren`t victim to entertaining propoganda pieces.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm
    I`m tired about hearing about this conflict. More people have died in the past few months in Syria than 60 years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. More people died in the Libyan Civil War. More people have died in the Mexican drug war. More people died in the war in Chechnya.

    Also, 80 Tibetans have lit themselves on fire in the past 2 years.


    This conflict is still a conflict, yes, but we`re constantly led to believe that it`s the biggest fracking conflict ever. It`s not. There is nothing special about it. Why is it so different?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    Andrew155 Is different cause this conflict is a perpetual war between two world.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 27, 2012 at 8:23 pm
    The myth that we are told is that the Palestinians are not willing to make concessions
    No one has ever told me that. What I don`t have to be told is that the Palestinians are not willing to let the Jews live in peace. If they would stop firing rockets and sending suicide bombers into Israel, they could have peace tomorrow. But they don`t want peace; they want to kill the Jews. How do you negotiate with that?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    Boring, pro-PLO hoopla. Dry as burned toast and just as appealing...

    Not even worth going inot the ENDLESS reasons he`s full of crap. 9:06 = I`m done!

    "1947...several years after the Holocaust" Um, 2 years? Kinda FRESH in people`s minds eh? And were the British allowing ANY Jews into "Trans-Jordan"? NOPE!

    Endless...

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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:20 pm
    OldOllie, you are retarded. Typical propaganda victim. Have you even once wondered why the Palestinians are doing it. Or you are just happy with the "they are bad terrorists" explanation?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 28, 2012 at 3:13 am
    @OldOllie

    "What I don`t have to be told is that the Palestinians are not willing to let the Jews live in peace"

    If my country somehow managed to annex the entire eastern half of your country and moved in and settled, you`d bet your arse you wouldn`t happily let us live in peace.

    They don`t want to kill the Jews. They want what they quite fairly believe to be their land back. The fact that many of them attempt to do this by killing Jews does not make the means their end.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:04 am
    @Musuko42

    UK right? You did that to Ireland! When are you going to give it back?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:10 am
    Ya they just want land.....


    Must be pointing at the land they want huh?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:20 am
    @McGovern1981

    "UK right? You did that to Ireland! When are you going to give it back?"

    Erm...check a map? We did. At least, the most part of it.

    "Must be pointing at the land they want huh?"

    That salute wasn`t invented by the Nazis. Here are American students doing it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:37 am
    @Musuko42

    Erm...check a map? We did. At least, the most part of it.

    ROFL!!! Not because you wanted to and you still have some but that`s ok for you not Israel huh?

    As for the salute ya sure it`s just a flag salute LOL!!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:52 am
    Wow, an Israeli-Palestine thread less than 100 comments? Come on I-A-B, you`re slipping.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 7:21 am
    My Dad actually knows the man speaking in this video. He runs a charity that brings wheel chairs and other necessary aid to residents of the occupied lands. So keep repeating the same propaganda sound bites you hear about the Palestinians not wanting peace. This guy knows a hell of a lot more than you.

    Great submission.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 7:23 am
    So keep repeating the same propaganda sound bites you hear about the Palestinians not wanting peace.

    So who was it that launched the first wave of missles that broke the cease fire last time?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:12 am
    `So who was it that launched the first wave of missles that broke the cease fire last time?`

    Who forced Palestinians from their homes? Who carpet bombed the heavily concentrated Gaza strip in 2008, full of women and children? I have made it clear that I don`t support Hamas. Why do you support the current Israeli government, who acts like an enabler for Hamas by refusing to concede anything to the more moderate voices?

    How about watching the video to see what this man says?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:19 am
    FoolsPrussia i appreciate your effort on try to let this bigots open their minds but belive me, is kinda impossible, they will keep repeat the same thinghs, Isreal is for peace, Palestine is for killing Israel....BullPoo!
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:27 am
    5Cats maybe if one time in your life you will take the nuts to go to the end of what you think is "crap" you will have the possibility to open your mind.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:44 am
    @piperfawn

    You`ve still never answered my question of what you think of Jewish people.

    @FoolsPrussia

    Israel enabeling LOL I see no Palestinians stopping hamas from launching missles and mortar attacks! As for 2008 where was the "carpet bombing" guided missles are not carpet bombing. That was also started from Hamas missle attack BTW.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:47 am
    Palestine for peace...BULLPOO!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:51 am
    @piperfawn

    That video BTW in no way shows how Palestine dosen`t want to eradicate Jews.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 9:43 am
    McGovern1981 and so? You think that show to me your video erase my point? My point is...there is no the good part in this conflict as many of us seem to suggest when they say Israel want peace Palestine no. What is my point on jews people? Here it is.
    I allready stated many time that being anti zionist is not equal anti semite, and that Israel don`t represent at all the jewish that live in peace all around the world and that don`t support what Israel ,with presumption, do in their name.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 28, 2012 at 9:53 am
    piperfawn: Support those anti-semitic nazi palestinians if you want, but don`t expect much support here. Palestinians do not want peace, they want genocide for all Jews, the complete eradication of Israel.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:01 am
    CrakrJak the same that Isreal want for Palestine.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:15 am
    @piperfawn

    Israel`s only attacked after being attacked though now haven`t they? That would seem to me they`re making an effort. Now if both want to eradicate each other that would mean you`ve only got two choices
    1. Stay out of it
    or
    2. Pick a side.
    You could preach to them for peace but they themselves have to want it.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:32 am
    McGovern1981 So let me see if i have understood what you mean.
    1 Start with the OCCUPATION and usurpation of foreign land,when the foreign want their lands back and fight for that start a worlwide cry on how that foreigner are evils. Don`t agree with any of International Resolution but just try to impose YOUR peace concordate. Meanwhile keep occupy foreign territory with the presumption to don`t have any answer to that and if the answer arrive restart to cry worldwide how your people are harrassed from foreigners that want their land,well sanctioned and established by Internationals Authorities.
    The real difference between Palestine and Israel is that Israel is OCCUPYNG foreign territories, Palestine no. They both do bad thinghs, but one of them is illegaly OCCUPYNG foreign territories. If Israel want to be the cool guy of the situation must start to give back what have taken illeagly. After that they can cry with all the rights in the world and maybe they will have my support
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 11:33 am
    @piperfawn

    Your own leaders don`t consider it illegal. Palestine isn`t even considered a country legaly if you want to consider legality. The Jews were there before Islam was even created BTW if you`re going off the I was here first argument which is stupid on its own. Of course I`d expect your logic to be backwards on this considering just a few generations ago your relatives helped create this by shipping Jews off on trains to death camps in Germany. I`m not suprised you support the side that sponsors terrorism,sharia laws and somehow think its freedom they want LOL!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Scratch that Italy had it`s own concentration camps so you didn`t even have to send them to far off.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 11:47 am
    McGovern1981 My leaders who? And who the drat cares about what my or yours leaders thinks? Are you able to have your personal opinion or you have to wait for your leader opinion?. The relatives of my family where deported and fight against fascism during that period, so shut your pooty mouth, fat pew pew bimbo.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 11:57 am
    "The Jews were there before Islam was even created".
    The NATIVES were there before USA was even created.
    How does it sound to you? Are you suggesting me that are you ready to leave your home and your country?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    so shut your pooty mouth, fat pew pew bimbo.

    Sign of a great argument!

    How does it sound to you? Are you suggesting me that are you ready to leave your home and your country?

    I`m not the one asking Israel to leave now am I?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    McGovern1981 you are suggesting that Palestine must stay and watch while a foreign country occupy their territories,cause that is on an old fable book, and maybe while they are there as good sheeps they must be bombed and stare at their houses being buldozed. I am not suggesting the abolition of the state of Israel, i am sayng that Israel must leave all the occupied territory, only after that Israel can start the dirge on how they are the victims.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    and maybe while they are there as good sheeps they must be bombed and stare at their houses being buldozed.


    Which is a result of them attacking. If they stopped supporting Hamas do you think they would still be getting attacked? It`s a pretty big cycle of s**t but I`m not going to side with the people that want to enforce religious law for the people.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    McGovern1981 "I`m not going to side with the people that want to enforce religious law for the people."
    OMG is the first time we agree on something.
    If you really belive that so i ask you to take distance on Israel too, cause zionism and hamas are the two faces of the same medal.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    @piperfawn

    MMMMMMM I would keep the country out of it but for arguments sake I`m going with the lesser of evils. I`ve know people who`ve been to Israel and had a good time if they went to Palastien they probably would`ve been killed.(I`m not Jewish BTW)
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    The people I knew were Jewish though.
  36. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    McGovern1981 your example only work if your friends were palestinians traveling in Israel.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    5Cats maybe if one time in your life you will take the nuts to go to the end of what you think is "crap" you will have the possibility to open your mind.
    @piperfawn: Not really, I`ve heard it ALL before! I seriously doubt there are 2 things "new" in his entire hour of slow, monotonus droning...

    And the "casual way" he discards teh Holocaust as something that "happened a while ago..." in 1947? He`s either an IDIOT, a NAZI or both.
    So what if "he`s Jewish"? I`ve said many times "Jews make the best anti-semites".

    About the division of land:
    At first the Arabs were laughing, THEY got the farmland and the Jews got lots of barren waste. BUT then Jews started moving into those wastelands... THAT is what triggered the invasion.

    If this guy had a 15 minute presentation? I might watch. But 60 minutes = BO-RING. And propoganda too.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    @piperfawn

    I don`t recall a law in Israel saying kill any Israelight that sells land to a palestinian.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    McGovern1981 But there is a behaviour like that "buldoze the first house you find in the foreign territory and the land will be your"
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    November 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    If Canada lobbed missles into America at a rate of 150 to 200 a day,there would be no Canada.The fact that all palistinians are not dead is a symbol of restraint, not terrorism.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
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    November 29, 2012 at 12:31 am
    Peace?

    Hamas Music Video

    Sure, they want peace as long as it doesn`t include the jews existing.

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