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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Link: Here We Go Again: White Guy Kills Black Kid - Florida. Senseless shooting. Defenseless youth. And all because of a loud stereo. This one`s gonna blow up badly.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:46 am
    2 kids get into a fight, one dies. Happens a lot unfortunatley. Trying to pull the race card just makes YOU look like an idiot.
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    Issame Female 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:49 am
    What, exactly, do you mean by "here we go *again*"?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:50 am
    You sure he`s not half hispanic this time?
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:50 am
    I just don`t see how this could be self defense unless they had a gun pulled out on him.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Wow, really?...Come on, really?? I don`t even know what to say. If there is the death penalty in Florida, this man certainly deserves it.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:52 am
    @tedgp two kids getting into a fight? How does that remotely apply to this situation?
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:55 am
    Oh and @ Issame, I think he is referring to that incident where the old white man in the "neighbourhood watch" shot the young teenage boy walking down the street. Unless there is another one I am unaware of...

    Link to the story
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Ugh. Why are Americans so bloody trigger happy?

    Wouldn`t the logical thing to do would be to step down? Drive off, old man. Nobody`s life is worth your hurt pride.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Not enough details in the article to decide one way otr the other.

    The only conclusion I can come to is the shooter has poor skills. 9 shots and only 2 landed.
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:03 am
    Screw Florida....those people are nuts! Granted the music should have been turned down...but you don`t kill a kid over it...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:03 am
    Michael Dunn lists himself as the Vice President of Software Development of Dunn & Dunn Systems Incorporated - a computer company. He was in the area for his sons wedding with his girlfriend.

    So now a successful man with family decides to shoot a kid for playing loud music? Does this story not sound one sided to you? Where`s MSN carrying this one?
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    eugenius Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:03 am
    tedgp needs to actually start reading the article before he gets all blowhardy on us.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:04 am
    He probably thought the kids was Obama.
  15. Profile photo of nubblins
    nubblins Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:04 am
    McGovern, successful people can be batpoo crazy too.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:14 am
    If you can`t pop a cap in kid over loud music,what else is there?
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:16 am
    I am not surprised there are people already pointing fingers at the kid who died and his friends. Fcking ridiculous.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:16 am
    @nubblins

    So you assume him guilty before innocent because of what was stated by the crowd gathering around police tape? Does it not seem to lack details?
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    coxsone Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:16 am
    No, poo hit the fan in the `last` one as the shooter wasn`t arrested for quite some time and quickly became a spectacle.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:16 am
    lets just get rid of florida. problem solved.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Awaiting details.
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    scapegoat7 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:26 am
    I understand that more info. is needed BUT the trigger happy a@$-hole took of after shooting at the kids nine times. WTF???!!!!!! If they didn`t catch his license plate this Fu#ker would have got away with it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:30 am
    2 Shot 1 dead 1 in Crit. condition at gang members funeral in Chicago. Not posted here I`ll let you figure out why....
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:30 am
    I guess rap music does make people violent.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:42 am
    Inaria, George Zimmerman is Hispanic. In an interview, he said his first language was Spanish even. He`s also not "old", either. He`s probably late 20`s.

    Stop being weird.


    Really, most of this race business every time there is a shooting is bizarre. Thousands of black people get murdered every single year, mostly by other black people. Nobody cares, especially if the murderer is black. This doesn`t get reported. I had a triple homicide outside my Harlem apartment in June. Why does nobody care? Surely that`s a bigger drag on the black community. Beat the strawman all you want, media. This is a phantom problem that doesn`t exist.

    It`s like South Park said, "If you`re going to kill or hurt somebody, you better make sure they`re the same color as you".
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:42 am
    The Floridiots strike again!!! They still can`t figure out how a presidential election works but they have good aim.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:48 am
    But as for this story, I would strongly recommend withholding judgement altogether until there`s a more complete story. We`re meant to believe that they`re filling up gas next to each other or something, and then suddenly he shoots him for loud music? A Grand Klan Master Wizard wouldn`t even do that.

    So please, don`t jump on any bandwagon. There is enough of that these days.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:49 am
    This is nothing like the Trayvon Martin shooting. This time the shooter was arrested right away and charged with murder. The reason the Trayvon case blew up is because the shooter was not charged until something like a month later and that was only because the story blew up in the news. The cops would have just let him get away without a trial if no one had raised a stink.
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    xelous Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:52 am
    @FP I don`t think that forty year old white guy listened to rap music. He probably listened to country music
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    I get you need more details, but I don`t see the point in shooting, let alone 9 times.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    I get you need more details, but I don`t see the point in shooting, let alone 9 times.

    Well when defending/murdering yourself/someone you don`t really take the time to count your shots you shoot until your out or your target is out of the picture.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    "The cops would have just let him get away"

    God forbid he get away with self defense lol.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    I`m wondering what this guy could have possibly been defending himself from for all the people defending the murderer (or at least saying "there needs to be more info"), considering the kid was sitting in the back seat of the car (therefore, not able to even punch the guy unless he walked up to the car and was directly in the window) and there`s no reason to believe he had a deadly weapon. I don`t think there`s any law saying "if someone is rude to you and plays their music too loud, feel free to murder them". But then again, this is Florida so you never know what kind of fcked up laws we might have. (coming from a Floridian)
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    9 times? That sounds fishy, unless he was in imminent danger and freaked out.

    He`s a gun collector though, so you`d think he`d be more responsible than 9 times, right? Either he wanted to unload a clip because he was mad, or he was freaking out.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Agreed Lillian. The dude is innocent until proven guilty, but he seems guilty.

    There are some fishy things though, like I mentioned in my post.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    God forbid he get away with self defense lol.
    He ran from the scene. People who have legitimately defended themselves don`t usually do that. More details needed, but it doesn`t look good. He had no right to tell them to turn the music down anyway.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    I DID NOT SAY THAT!
  38. Profile photo of LillianDulci
    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    So do explain how this situation could have possibly been self defense. I can`t think of any situation that it`d be self defense unless there`s deadly weapons found and he was pointing them at the man. Not many people would run away after shooting someone in self defense, either.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    I was talking about Zimmerman in reply to Markust!

    I do not think this guy did the right thing at all!
  40. Profile photo of LillianDulci
    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Yeah I thought so after rereading it, sorry for misunderstanding at first aj ^^
  41. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    "He had no right to tell them to turn the music down anyway."

    Well there is noise ordinance. At 20ft the radio should not be audible.

    THAT IS NO EXCUSE FOR KILLING THE KID much less putting 9 rounds in him. This seems like a guilty verdict to me.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Thank you lillian. You`re a classy broad.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    Kids eh? If only they would do as they were told now and again. The guy fired 8 or 9 and only hit with two...poor shot.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    (In regards to Zimmerman) "God forbid he get away with self defense lol."

    That is for the jury to decide Auburnjunky. I think if your kid was shot you would want a trial.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    no comment.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Based on what I`ve read in this article the self-defense assertion is totally absurd. Loud music is a nuisance NOT a serious threat to your health.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    Wouldn`t a gas station have a video that could be helpful.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    Well obviously, he mistook his own eyes. Maybe he was aiming at him thinking that he is actually aiming away and then realized it WAS his good eye after all.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    LillianDulci-"I am not surprised there are people already pointing fingers at the kid who died and his friends."

    Yes, because NO ONE ever ended up being killed for their own stupidity.

    With the facts given, could have been either`s (or both`s) fault. Wait for more facts. (though I`m currently leaning that it`s the old guys fault)

    LillianDulci-"considering the kid was sitting in the back seat of the car "

    When did being in the back seat mean you couldn`t have a weapon to threaten someone with? In a local case: mother of two yelled at a car for speeding down the street, kid IN THE BACK SEAT shot her twice. (you probably didn`t hear of it, as the kid was black and victim white).

    LillianDulci-"no reason to believe he had a deadly weapon."

    And no reason to believe he didn`t.
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    danagamer Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    Oh, and guess which state again.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm
    Sounds like the boy who died wasn`t the target of the shooter, I hope there`s video to help sort this out.

    It has little to NO resemblance to Zimmerman`s case, except skin colour. And even then?
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    maxxim Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    Fired 8 or 9 times and only hit twice? Either he`s an appallingly bad shot, or he was under duress.
    I wonder how this will turn out once more facts come out.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Last time it was a HISPANIC person that killed a black kid! Stop trying to start racist fights you racist moron.
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    mikelae18 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    Some people aren`t fans of rap music.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    Someone should hook up some jumper cables to his testicles and walk away.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    Why did he even think he could tell someone in a public place to turn down the music in their car? Sounds like he was looking for a fight.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm
    why do we still care that zimmerman was hispanic again? whatever race he is he killed a child. end of story.

    "oh this group of people will be offended by blah blah blah. lets be offended too so that we can still fit in"

    people as a whole make me drating sick...nobody REALLY cares what happens to anybody else. they just want to be sure they arent left out...
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    What`s that make it, 17,483 to 2?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2012 at 11:29 pm
    Most localities have noise ordinance laws on the books. Even those communities that don`t have specific noise laws, they can still be arrested for disturbing the peace.

    I rarely trust the medias reporting of these crimes when they concentrate on these shootings and gloss over the overwhelming amount of gang-on-gang violence.

    Instead of just reporting facts the media has a bad reputation of attempting to script a motive, into their reporting, based on hearsay.

    8-9 shots fired though, that doesn`t seem like self-defense to me. But we`ll see what happens in court.
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    animalss Female 18-29
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    November 28, 2012 at 2:27 am
    Why does it always have to be a race thing? It`s obviously one angry old man pissed off at an annoying teenager, who took his rage way to far.
  61. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 28, 2012 at 4:16 am
    animalss: Why does it always have to be a race thing?

    Because that`s the medias way of stirring up racial tension and making money off it by selling more newspapers and ads.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 28, 2012 at 6:58 am
    collegebound-"why do we still care that zimmerman was hispanic again?"

    Because the media and profesional race-baiters continually harped on Zimmerman being `White` because him being white, while not the truth, was a much more convenient for their ends.

    (their ends, of course, being better ratings for the former, and feigned `outrage` for the latter in order to fan the flames of race warfare)
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    Palfas Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 7:58 am
    The story doesn`t mention return fire or any guns found on the kids or in the SUV. Chances are slim they missed reporting on those details.
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    Palfas Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:01 am
    Update to the story: http://tinyurl.com/cfazhlx

    No gun found at the scene, but the shooter claims he saw a shotgun and he`s "very familiar with firearms"
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 8:18 am
    Hmm, so after you fire a gun, in "self-defense" you flee the scene and don`t call police afterward? Oh, and you`re "firing at the vehicle" and not "at anyone." This guy seems to deserve prison, I don`t see how you can think of it any other way.
  66. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 28, 2012 at 9:14 am
    patchgrabber-"so after you fire a gun, in "self-defense" you flee the scene"

    Actually, in some situations that`s the best thing to do. There were multiple of his friends there. The area might not have safe to stay.

    patchgrabber-"and don`t call police afterward?"

    That I have a problem with. No excuse for that, which doesn`t make it look good for him.
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    MasterJedi79 Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:26 am
    (Giving shooter a high five) This is NOT racial at ALL. So just get over that. But mad props for that, turn your F***ing music down a--h----!!!
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    autricia Female 18-29
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    November 28, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Here`s what I don`t get about this all, why did he bother asking them to turn the music down when all he had to do was drive away and ignore it? They were stopping at a convenience store and the teenagers were playing the music in the parking lot. It`s not like they were sitting outside of his house blaring music and causing the guy to lose sleep. This wasn`t self-defense at all, unless he was the store owner, he had no reason to go ask them to turn it down. Just a cranky ahole who murdered a kid.

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