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  1. Profile photo of whodat6484
    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    Link: Who Will Create More Jobs In America? - Obama or Romney? You make the call from this photo.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:04 am
    Well played sir, well played!
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:04 am
    Burn
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:09 am
    Thanks, whodat...
    That speaks volumes about these men and their priorities.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Pretty mutch.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:20 am
    Oh yes because outsourcing causes in a net loss in jobs domestically of course.
    *rolls eyes*
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:21 am
    Of course this just shows how much of a blithering hypocrit Romney is.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:23 am
    Romney`s hats cost them $0.25 each, Obama`s hats cost them $6 each. Who made the better financial decision?
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    Fehz Male 30-39
    580 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 9:49 am
    A better financial decision for Romney, but not the USA. Par for the course.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:02 am
    @DingDingDong,
    For their political party, Romney. For their country, Obama.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
    886 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 10:02 am
    I personally do not care if either of them bought their hats from Oz using cigarettes and monopoly money.

    Will either one represent your view? Your opinions? Or will both be counted on to pursue their own agendas and eff what everyone thinks?

    This isn`t a true democracy. Perhaps it was once.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:09 am
    @broizfam and Fehz

    Economic patriotism mantra is nothing but nonsense. Cheaper goods means, by and large, businesses in our country can do more with less money spent and thus more jobs.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:12 am
    businesses in our country can do more with less money spent and thus more jobs.
    Or just better quarterly earnings reports for investors.
  14. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Or just better quarterly earnings reports for investors

    That DOESN`T necessarily mean minimizing wages.
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
    418 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Governments do not create jobs. All they can do is affect the level at which they impede job growth. Removing an obstacle that they themselves placed there is not the same as creating something.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Governments do not create jobs. All they can do is affect the level at which they impede job growth. Removing an obstacle that they themselves placed there is not the same as creating something. -----------
    You`re wrong. Government does create jobs. Ask Neil Armstrong. Dimwits and their stupid non-thought-out talking points.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:24 am
    That DOESN`T necessarily mean minimizing wages.
    I never said it did; but it also doesn`t necessarily mean creation of new jobs either.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Government does create jobs

    Legally, not economically, who knows where else Armstrong`s talents could`ve been put to use.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:32 am
    but it also doesn`t necessarily mean creation of new jobs either

    Most of the time it does though, profit means a company can expand. Expansion means creating new buildings/hardware that have to be staffed and maintained etcetera.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Expansion means creating new buildings/hardware that have to be staffed and maintained etcetera.
    ...Assuming the buildings/hardware they create are located in America, otherwise it just exacerbates the initial problem. Long gone are the days of Henry Ford.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:53 am
    You must truly be a fool to believe that the government does not create MANY MANY MANY jobs. Stop backpedaling. "Not economically"? What do you even mean by this? Ya know what don`t answer that question I doubt you know the answer to that yourself. If teachers police firefighters and military don`t spend their money (your sarcasm alarm should be going off now) then I guess that means we should give all our money to the elite so they can reinvest in our economy by sending their money to banks overseas and their factories there as well.

    Corperations may hire many people. Small businesses are just that and can fail much more easily.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:53 am
    otherwise it just exacerbates the initial problem

    How? Most outsourcing is done to reach foreign customers not to shift labor overseas.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 10:59 am
    If teachers police firefighters and military don`t spend their money (your sarcasm alarm should be going off now) then I guess that means we should give all our money to the elite so they can reinvest in our economy by sending their money to banks overseas and their factories there as well.

    Which doesn`t necessarily add any value to our economy considering capital has been directed away from the private sector including the middle class. Police force and military okay, but why make everyone pay for teachers and curriculum they don`t approve of? Especially when they underperform. Firefighters can also be privatized as well, try outsourcing that.
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    Bredlom Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:03 am
    "How? Most outsourcing is done to reach foreign customers not to shift labor overseas."

    Right, got to make sure we can market american politics to china
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:03 am
    You must truly be a fool to believe that the government does not create MANY MANY MANY jobs

    Likewise you must truly be a fool to think that most Washington bureaucrats do anything useful for anyone, other than minding other people`s business.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:10 am
    Right, got to make sure we can market american politics to china

    This example just happens to be one of the times when reaching foreign customers is not the rationale.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 11:14 am
    This Romney/Ryan hat is a knock-off, a counterfeit.

    Don`t believe me? The Romney campaign only sells their hats in 3 colors, Red, White and Blue and all are made in America. Here

    Nice try whodat, but it only took 60 seconds to find out this information. It`s too bad so many here fell for this fake and believed it right off the bat.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:14 am
    "Governments do not create jobs. All they can do is affect the level at which they impede job growth. Removing an obstacle that they themselves placed there is not the same as creating something."

    Funny. Try cutting a military budget for equipment the military is no longer asking for or using and watch Republicans scream, You are cutting jobs in my state.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:15 am
    This picture has already been debunked.

    The Romney hat in the picture with the `Made in China` tag was not purchased from the Romney Campaign. The Romney clothing web-site does not even include a beige hat, just blue one.

    I, to, can spend $15 and have a Obama Hat made with a tag that says `Made With Child Labor`.

    Research people.

    Why so upset about a made-up hat story when you could be REALLY pissed off at a candidate this is openly accepting illegal over-seas contributions, and who refuses to implace very simple programming on their web-site that could stop the same illegal over-seas contributions? (oh, it`s Obama so it`s okay...I forgot)

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:17 am
    You are cutting jobs in my state

    Which you point out in your first clause DOES NOT add any value to the economy overall.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:17 am
    The REAL hats.

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    JXS Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:19 am
    This picture is obviously small beans but still, a lot of Romney`s campaign was focused on the economy and bringing jobs back to America. it does look hypocritical

    what is funny is the length people will go to discredit someone
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:19 am
    The Romney clothing web-site does not even include a beige hat, just blue one.

    ...and I said that Romney was a hypocrit?
    *headdesk*
    Geez, but I still maintain that outsourcing is NOT a bad thing.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:21 am
    JXS-"it does look hypocritical "

    Correction, it looks like more Chicago Politics attempting to make one side look hypocritical.

    And many dumb liberals will fall for it.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:40 am
    The hat isn`t official Romney campaign merchandise. There are Obama hats and shirts made in China from third parties too.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:43 am
    "This Romney/Ryan hat is a knock-off, a counterfeit. Don`t believe me? The Romney campaign only sells their hats in 3 colors, Red, White and Blue and all are made in America."

    Nice work CrakrJak. Just shows how gullible partisan politics makes people. I didn`t even question the picture. I guess I wanted to believe it. But had the situation been reversed I would have gone right to Obama`s site. This is a small example of why Fox News and MSNBC can get away with some of the ridiculous things they push. When you are stuck in a partisan world you only see what you want to see.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:44 am
    But Obama let the ENTIRE Olympic Team wear "Made In China" uniforms, and that was OK?

    And a crappy p-shop makes Romney a bad guy?

    Liberal Logic! What will they dream up next!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:51 am
    "But Obama let the ENTIRE Olympic Team wear "Made In China" uniforms, and that was OK? "

    Typical Fox News f*cking bullsh*t. At least the uniforms were from an American company. I was at the SLC Olympics that Romney ran and distinctly remember wanting one of the Canadian made Roots hats that the U.S. Olympians were wearing. I`m pretty sure Canada made our uniforms also. Where was the false outrage then? It was only five months after 9/11. That`s right there wasn`t any because it is a stupid f*cking thing that only an idiot would get mad about.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:56 am
    I stand corrected the 2002 uniforms were also made by Ralph Lauren. Only the hats were from Canada. Let me guess those Ralph Lauren uniforms were also made in China. Where is the outrage?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 30, 2012 at 11:58 am
    @markust: It`s the US Gov`ts DUTY to run the military! So yes, those jobs are the responsibility of the Gov`t 100%!

    Another Anti-Romney post at IAB *sigh*
    FAKE as usual, but @madest believes it! lolz!

    VV @markust: Canada and the USA have a "Free Trade Agreement" OK? Products made in Canada are just as valid and patriotic as those made in the USA, OK?
    It would be ILLEGAL to refuse a better Canadian product just to "buy USA". Well, technically speaking it would...
    Canada > China ...in every way imaginable!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    "Canada and the USA have a "Free Trade Agreement" OK? Products made in Canada are just as valid and patriotic as those made in the USA, OK? "

    Nice spin but it doesn`t work that way. Part of the 2008 Summer Olympic Ralph Lauren uniforms were made in China. Are you outraged over that? How horrible that Bush allowed that to happen. Do you hear how stupid you sound. And why am I even asking you. You`re a damn Canadian.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    5Cats has gone full retard.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Obama has done nothing about China playing with it`s currency values for their gain this is a poor point.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 30, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    Nissin Caps Homepage They make caps! lolz!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Most outsourcing is done to reach foreign customers not to shift labor overseas.
    Riiight, it has nothing to do with the insanely cheap cost of manufacturing there. Must be why you rarely see "Made in China" on products here.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 30, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    patchgrabber: Japan `outsourced` auto manufacturing jobs to the USA to get around trade limitations here. Japanese and Korean auto companies employ more people here than they do in their own countries and it`s not because our labor is cheap.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    There are certainly cases where outsourcing is done to find cheaper labor. But it`s WAY more often done to find higher QUALITY labor rather than cheaper labor. Such can hardly be found in third world countries where the rule of law is near absent. Cheaper labor doesn`t necessarily mean max profit. Case in point Ford introduced the $5 workday at 8 hrs per day in 1914. It was a solution to rampant absenteeism and high turnover rates. This worked out to around 62.5 cents an hour whereas the first national attempt at minimum wage law ever was in 1933 at 25 cents an hour. Talk about private enterprise beating government to the punch.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm
    Errrmmm ... what idiot wrote the title to this? Completely unaware that Obama and Romney will not create any jobs. Romney will create the environment in which jobs will be created or Obama will create the environment in which jobs will be lost.

    Government can only create jobs by destroying even more jobs.
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    Mad_Gremlyn Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Anyone assuming that campaign gear is representative of the policies of the candidate is a ^%$#ing idiot.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6183 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    randommxnp

    "Obama will create the environment in which jobs will be lost."

    How do you guys have such a break from reality?

    Unemployment is down 2.2% since the worst point in 2009.
    tinyurl.com/9g6gek4

    Change in jobs during the worst month in 2009 was losing 818,000 a month, today we are gaining 114,000 a month.
    tinyurl.com/3non4n6

    Lowest number of employed people in 2009 was 129,319,000, today the number is 133,500,000.
    tinyurl.com/6tsspgz

    Since "February 2010, which is 31 months ago -- Obama has presided over the net creation of 4.7 million jobs."
    tinyurl.com/8tj5p8n

    It amazes me that people can just dismiss facts so easily. How do you even rationalize the lies that spill out of your mouth. Oh, the data is wrong right? Those aren`t the REAL numbers?
  51. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    [quote">t amazes me that people can just dismiss facts so easily. How do you even rationalize the lies that spill out of your mouth. Oh, the data is wrong right? Those aren`t the REAL numbers?[/quote">

    How many times DO I have to say this?
    LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE DOWN
    2009: 65.7
    Now: 63.6

    THAT is why the unemployment rate is up, because some people have stopped looking for jobs.

    By your own "change in jobs" stats:
    Net jobs change: -1,135,000
    Since Obama took office
    You call THAT an improvement?
    Give me a break!

    As for the PolitiFact ranking: Half-true
    3.6 million created SINCE RECOVERY.
  52. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    THAT is why the unemployment rate is up, because some people have stopped looking for jobs.

    "Up"? I meant "Down". You get the idea.
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    October 30, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    I wish Obama had come out wearing that Romney hat during the last debate. Debate would have instantly been over.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 5:07 pm
    Lowest number of employed people in 2009 was 129,319,000, today the number is 133,500,000

    Based on current population projections that would amount to no more than an increase of 7 employees per 1000 people in the US.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    Cajun247

    "By your own "change in jobs" stats: Net jobs change: -1,135,000 Since Obama took office. You call THAT an improvement? "

    I`m not sure how you are misunderstanding that data. The economy was losing jobs every month when Obama took office. Look at this chart. It may be the best example of job growth. LOOK AT THE CHART. Look at the freefall it was in and it starts turning around when Obama takes office.

    We`re at 24 months straight of positive monthly job growth.

    tinyurl.com/3non4n6

    "LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE DOWN"

    Yes. But it doesn`t take into account why. Mothers can decide to be stay at home moms. People can retire. Students can decide to go to school full time. I`m not trying to spin it, I`m just saying it can be spun. That number requires too much context.

    This number needs no context:

    Lowest number of employed people in 2009 was 129,319,000, today the number is 133,500,000.
  56. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    [quote">Look at the freefall it was in and it starts turning around when Obama takes office.[/quote">

    The labor particaption rate hovered above 66% 19 years preceding the housing bubble.

    [quote">This number needs no context:[/quote">

    Here`s another number that needs no context:

    People on food stamps:
    FY 2009: 33.5 million
    FY 2011: 44.7 million

    Courtesy of USDA

    This is a recovery?
  57. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Look at the freefall it was in and it starts turning around when Obama takes office.

    If you`re giving credit to Obama, you are thereby invoking the cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6183 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    Cajun247

    "This is a recovery?"

    GDP up, nasdaq up, dow up, unemployment down, home sales up, foreclosures down, new builds up, median home price up, etc.

    Ya. I do. Now if we want to discuss it isn`t fast enough, by all means.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6183 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    Cajun247

    "People on food stamps:
    FY 2009: 33.5 million
    FY 2011: 44.7 million"

    I just don`t get why it is that poor people who need help getting the ability o eat is a bad thing. We`re the richest country on Earth and we can`t assist people with basic things like food?

    BTW:

    "President Bush launched a recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office. The USDA began airing paid radio spots in 2004.

    President Obama`s stimulus act made it easier for childless, jobless adults to qualify for the program and increased the monthly benefit by about 15% through 2013. "

    The increase has been a bipartisan initiative that realized that the program could be doing more to help more people. I would MUCH rather my tax dollars went to feeding people here than killing people overseas. Wouldn`t you?
  60. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm
    GDP up

    Still below pre-bubble levels and stalling.

    GDP up, nasdaq up

    Artificially inflated by the Fed`s lending.

    Meaningless.

    unemployment down

    Labor participation rate down, moot.

    home sales up, foreclosures down, new builds up, median home price up

    Fewer people in the workforce means fewer people can afford homes, useless.

    As of 2010, according to the Census Bureau, people 15-64 make up 67.1% of the US population.
  61. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    I just don`t get why it is that poor people who need help getting the ability o eat is a bad thing

    Quick lets compare numbers here:

    2011 employees: 132,186,000 (December 2011)
    2009 employees: 129,319,500

    2011 food stamps: 44,700,000
    2009 food stamps: 33,500,000

    Shouldn`t employees be outpacing food stamp recipients? On top of which I say we shouldn`t fighting any of the wars overseas, but helping the poor is something best left to charity. At least leave it to state governments.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    "At least the uniforms were from an American company."

    But it was some unconscionable poo when Trumps ties were made in China, right? RIGHT?
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    October 30, 2012 at 10:58 pm
    Stop going to wars and building an enormous army..
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    October 31, 2012 at 5:54 am
    Made in China - true to his track record
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 31, 2012 at 6:53 am
    @Cajun: Case in point Ford introduced the $5 workday at 8 hrs per day in 1914
    Apparently you missed the part where I said those days were long gone, which they are. You can`t use an example from 100 years ago when there was little to no globalization and compare it to now. Also you are dead wrong, I know of many, many companies that shift production to China specifically because they save incredible amounts of money on the bottom line. To suggest that businesses prefer "quality" labour over cheap labour is laughable on the whole, though there are exceptions, but those are just that, exceptions, not the rule.

    @Crakr: Like I said to @Cajun, just because some companies don`t take advantage of cheap labour doesn`t mean it`s the norm. Also, auto manufacturing is the one industry that the US generally does better than everyone else, so it`s not surprising that they would shift auto manufacturing there. But if you look at the tech industry, they always sh
  66. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 31, 2012 at 6:56 am
    *ship jobs overseas. Link even mentions how Japan`s move was the "unlikeliest of transformations."

    And products like iPhones etc. get made in China and people don`t say "this product would be much higher quality if it were made in the US." You are not a manufacturing economy any more, and if you are trying to be, then your country sucks at it when compared to the "third world" alternatives.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 31, 2012 at 7:08 am
    Draculya: Go back and read the next to last page, of this submission and then come back and apologize.
  68. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    October 31, 2012 at 10:56 am
    [quote">I know of many, many companies that shift production to China specifically because they save incredible amounts of money on the bottom line[/quote">

    That`s anecdotal.

    [quote">To suggest that businesses prefer "quality" labour over cheap labour is laughable on the whole, though there are exceptions, but those are just that, exceptions, not the rule.[/quote">

    Nope it IS the rule

    Important points:
    -Affiliates in high-income countries accounted for 79% of total affiliate output
    -Parent companies account for 69.6% of worldwide employment of U.S .multinationals—21.7 million parent workers versus 9.5 million at affiliates. This translates into a ratio of almost 2.3 U.S. employees for every one affiliate employee.
  69. Profile photo of AvatarJohn
    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    November 1, 2012 at 8:14 am
    I don`t know about everyone else, but I really want more of THIS! 4 more years of double-digit (true) unemployment, multi-trillion dollar deficits and death panels killing Grandma! Hurray for the status quo!

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