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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 7:54 am
    Link: The Republican Party Rape Advisory Chart - Included: Real quotes from actual Republicans!
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:03 am
    GOP "family values".
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:07 am
    Asking Repubs about rape is a gold mine of reportable comments. I just heard about the "some girls rape so easy" comment yesterday. Even in context that one was pretty offensive.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:08 am
    ANY of these statements would instantly stamp "CANCEL" on your political career north of the border. I can`t believe how backward so many of you generally-good people are.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Republicans: Winking at Rape since time began!
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:19 am
    Conservatives make me sick to my stomach.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:23 am

    The last is out of context. Clayton Williams was actually commenting on the weather.

    He ws running for governor of Texas. The press had gathered to an out door event but the rains came and spoiled it. Under a shelter, Clayton joked with the press that "Rain is like rape, if it`s inevitable, relax and enjoy it".

    Still a stupid thing to say to reporters.
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    hauswyfe Female 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:24 am
    And this is why I vote Democratic.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:26 am
    @Gerry: The context actually makes it sound worse, imo.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:29 am
    The Honest Rape and Emergency Rape ones aren`t bad ones; trying to include them is reaching quite a bit.

    As for the "rape so easy" one, I think there`s *some* legitimacy behind it (even though it was stated with the tact of a 5-year old). What he was describing does happen, though I`m sure not with the frequency being implied.

    The rest (especially the last) are completely absurd...
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:29 am
    VOTE
    We fought hard for this and many other rights. Don`t piss it away.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:30 am
    the stupid opinion of a couple idiots does not speak for the rest of us conservatives...

    those people are drattards...
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:33 am
    @paco664, I wish that were true, but the pervasive rape culture women face on a daily basis in this country says otherwise.

    @carmium, can you please put me in a suitcase and smuggle me into Canada? I am small and don`t take up much space.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:33 am
    a couple idiots
    A couple? I`m sure if we dig we could find more, but your comment stinks of No True Scotsman.
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    Hedkwab Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:37 am
    [email protected] pretending this is actually the view point of republicans or conservatives. There are morons on both sides, and tons in this thread
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:37 am
    Paco664:

    Actually, these morons DO speak poorly of *all* conservatives. Because you people elected them, and in many cases keep them in office.

    If they were so abhorrent to so many conservatives, what the Hell are they doing still in office? And why are there so many of them in the first place?

    Face it -- conservatives don`t think much of women, find rape mildly amusing, hate gay people, and hold stupid religious beliefs that should have expired with the 18th century.

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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:48 am
    What BoredFrank said. Conservatives elected them, and even if they were elected before they said such hideous things, I don`t see anyone clamoring for their resignation.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:50 am
    can you please put me in a suitcase and smuggle me into Canada?
    Well, first you must like mayonnaise, poutine, hockey, and be polite. Also you might want to brush up on your French-Canadian cursewords like "Tabarnak," "bapteme" or "viarge." Interestingly, due to initial repression from the Catholic church, most French-Canadian profanity is a modified religious word (tabernacle, baptism, and virgin Mary, respectively). :-)
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:56 am
    I like mayo and poutine and I`m very polite! I can learn to like hockey, and I love both cursing and creative blasphemy.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 8:59 am
    Also I`m adorable and all Canadians are adorable, so I`d fit right in.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 9:18 am
    You`re all welcome on our side of the fence, provided you show your IMB credentials. Just get here quick before the barbed wire on those fences end up facing the other direction if you know what I mean.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    October 25, 2012 at 9:51 am
    Of course these horrible people aren`t representative of republicans in general. They were just elected by republicans to ...um... represent them.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 9:55 am
    Thanks for taking a difficult and horrible topic and making it much, much worse.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 9:59 am
    Of course these horrible people aren`t representative of republicans in general. They were just elected by republicans to ...um... represent them.
    `Tis a not-so-fine line being walked. Yes, they are elected by the majority to represent them. Given this, MOST conservatives are guilty of choosing the people to represent them.

    However, we must not forget that no other person completely and infallibly represents our own ideals. We choose those who we consider to do so best. Unfortunately, this often forces us to elect representatives with certain opinions that we do not agree with.

    For example, I believe you will vote for Obama. Does this mean that, since you choose him as your representative, that all of his actions represent you and all of your beliefs? Consider that he signed the NDAA.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:08 am
    @HA: You make a valid point, however, for a Republican to be making these comments, if they don`t represent the opinions of the majority who voted for him, shouldn`t the representative be voting how the majority of his constituency feels instead of his own personal opinion? Just a question.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:17 am
    HumanAction, that sounds nice and all, but here`s the thing. These men are not otherwise decent human beings who happened to say something offensive on isolated occasions. Language like this is representative of an anti-woman viewpoint that is rampant in the Republican party. Anyone who knowingly supports someone who holds such views is enabling and tolerating those views, and that makes them just as guilty.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:18 am
    What is wrong with what Ron Paul said?

    An honest rape, as in not a regrets once you`re sober rape.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:26 am
    shouldn`t the representative be voting how the majority of his constituency feels instead of his own personal opinion?
    One would think/hope so. Then again, marijuana is still illegal and over half of all Americans support legalization.

    Anyone who knowingly supports someone who holds such views is enabling and tolerating those views, and that makes them just as guilty.
    By this same logic, an Obama supporter is guilty of expanding the war in Afghanistan because they enabled and tolerated Obama`s agenda.

    We should be careful not to attack the individual for the faults of the group.

    What is wrong with what Ron Paul said?
    There was nothing wrong with what he said... I don`t get it either.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:28 am
    What`s wrong with what Ron Paul said is the very fact that anyone feels the need to stipulate that a rape must be proven to be "honest rape" or "legitimate rape" or "forcible rape" before a victim is taken seriously. This is a symptom of rape culture, in which rape victims are always questioned, always doubted, always blamed for their assault. "If it`s an honest rape" and other similar language implies that doubt should be cast on the victim until she is able to prove otherwise.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 10:59 am
    in which rape victims are always questioned, always doubted, always blamed for their assault. "If it`s an honest rape" and other similar language implies that doubt should be cast on the victim until she is able to prove otherwise.

    While blaming shouldn`t be tolerated, questioning and doubt should be tolerated lest we as a society want to condemn innocent people for the sake of ameliorating our fears.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:04 am
    lol
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:09 am
    1. it is never ever ever the victim`s fault for any reason.

    2. the GOP has gone insane.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:16 am
    @Cajun247, "innocent until proven guilty" is a good thing. "Lying until proven right" is not. There is no other violent crime in this country for which the first questions a victim is asked are often things liken"How were you dressed?" and "Had you been drinking?"
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:24 am
    In other words, you don`t have to prematurely convict a suspect in order to treat victims like victims.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:27 am
    What`s wrong with what Ron Paul said is the very fact that anyone feels the need to stipulate that a rape must be proven to be "honest rape" or "legitimate rape" or "forcible rape" before a victim is taken seriously
    That is not what Ron Paul was saying; he was merely being specific. Listen to the man speak and you will see that he values women`s rights as much as any Democrat, if not more.

    it is never ever ever the victim`s fault for any reason
    Joe punches Mike. Mike then stabs Joe. Joe is the victim and therefore shares no blame for the results of their altercation, despite starting it? Stupid line.

    Lying until proven right" is not.
    Where is this a common belief? Rape is a serious offense and even an accusation can destroy someone`s life. While it is certainly a sad event, the accuser must accept the burden of proof.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:28 am
    oh dear.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:29 am
    There is no other violent crime in this country for which the first questions a victim is asked are often things liken"How were you dressed?" and "Had you been drinking?"
    Trayvon Martin was dead and look at all the character questions levied against him. Drug addict, gangster, suspended from school, thug, drug dealer, etc. The victim is vetted in all serious allegations.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:35 am
    @HumanAction, your hypothetical "Joe vs. Mike" story has nothing to do with rape, nor does it make any sense. If Joe assaulted Mike and Mike defended himself, Mike is the victim, not Joe. As for the rest of what you said, I think my statements were pretty clear and self-explanatory. If you don`t get it, I can`t make you understand.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:39 am
    @zombunny: No need to be petty here; we are simply having an adult conversation regarding the merits of your claims.

    If Joe assaulted Mike and Mike defended himself, Mike is the victim, not Joe
    That is not legally true. Punching is not typically considered lethal force, whereas stabbing is. In self-defense, you cannot use lethal force in response to non-lethal force. Legally, Joe was the victim in my hypothetical situation.

    I think my statements were pretty clear and self-explanatory
    Certainly; they were just incorrect.

    If you don`t get it, I can`t make you understand.
    Then try; it would be all too easy for me to suggest the same of you. If nothing else, I am at least willing to have an intelligent conversation.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:39 am
    "Actually, these morons DO speak poorly of *all* conservatives. Because you people elected them, and in many cases keep them in office."

    "If they were so abhorrent to so many conservatives, what the Hell are they doing still in office? And why are there so many of them in the first place?"

    What he said.

    Until Conservatives kick the really crazy religious nuts out of office they will all look like crazy religious nuts themselves. Kicking Rick Santorum out of office was a good start but then the conservatives doubled down and supported him as a candidate for the President. The President? What the hell? Do you have any idea how bad the Republican Primaries made conservatives look? It was a who`s who of crazy.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:44 am
    On the lighter side, life can not be a gift from God, Honey Booboo proved that to me without a doubt.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:44 am
    When conservatives/Republicans seriously considered rIck Santorum as a contender for the Presidency, they not only jumped the shark but paused to tap-dance naked on its head.

    No one with an IQ above 65 or any education whatsoever takes all that god-n-guns Tea Party crap seriously.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:46 am
    The problem with that, HumanAction, is that only one of us considers this conversation to be intelligent.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:49 am
    @zombunny: I know... I didn`t want to say anything but I am glad you brought it up. Perhaps if you come back later you will find yourself more adequate for the task?
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 11:52 am
    Oh snap.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    It figures, liberals championing the death of an innocent child for the sins of a rapist. No one says the mother has to raise the child, there are a lot of people waiting for a child to bring to their home and love because of infertility.

    Rape is indeed a horrible crime, but so is abortion. Two wrongs don`t make it right.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    CrakrJak, no one is even talking about abortion here. We`re talking about the religious right`s attitude toward rape and rape victims.
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    ddaq89 Male 30-39
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Your tax dollars at work ladies and gentelmen
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    zombunny: These quotes were taken out of the context of discussions about abortion. Most of the questions came about because some people believe that if abortion gets restricted to cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother that women will likely claim they were raped, when they weren`t, to get an abortion.

    That discussion lead into the question of "what is rape?" and how it`s defined. Would the woman have to file a police report, name her rapist or just claim she was raped without proof?
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Crakr, have you ever been pregnant?
    Didn`t think so.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Btw, I believe that if a woman is raped or is a victim of incest emergency contraceptive measures should be used, immediately after the offense occurred, and I don`t consider that to be abortion.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    HumanAction, I could try to help you to understand complicated subjects like sexual violence and rape culture and misogyny, but it would be a waste of my time and energy. I know this because I`ve tried to do such things here before. Some people get it, some people don`t, some people choose not to. It`s not my job to educate you. You have the entire internet at your disposal should you choose to read up on such things. Nothing I can say here will make one iota of difference in whether or not you choose to understand. It`s not my job. I would say it`s not my problem, but it *is* my problem. When members of a society choose to remain ignorant of the systematic abuse, subjugation, and silencing of its people, it`s everyone`s problem. We all lose, and that makes my vagina sad. No one likes it when Zombunny`s vagina is sad.

    Except maybe rapists.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    nubblins: Have you ever had a woman tell you she was going to abort your baby and you had no choice in the matter? Didn`t think so.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    You said Abortion is a horrible crime. Here`s the thing: you seem to think a little ball of cells that isn`t viable outside the womb has more rights than a fully grown woman (or post-pubescent girl). I can`t even imagine how you justify this. If a girl is raped, you think it`s right to FORCE her to go through the trauma of pregnancy? That`s just drated up, Crakr. You don`t know what it`s like to be raped either. Thank GOD when I was date raped I had access to Plan B (through.. omfg PLANNED PARENTHOOD).

    You conservatives talk a lot of poo without fully understanding the situation.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    " there are a lot of people waiting for a child to bring to their home and love because of infertility"

    They can adopt one of the many many children already in the system waiting for parents to call their own. There`s no shortage of children needing to be adopted, so there`s absolutely no reason a woman should be forced to go through the pain and lifelong damage of pregnancy if she doesn`t want to just to add another child to the system.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    @zombunny: While I thoroughly enjoy your attempts to identify me as some willfully ignorant man-monster oblivious to the plight of women, I must protest. I have done nothing more that point out what I perceive to be the faults in your arguments.

    For instance, you accuse all Republicans (of which I am not) of guilt for allowing these men to stay in office; that`s fine. However, if we use this logic, then you must also accept that all Democrats are guilty of perpetuating the war in Afghanistan. Afterall, you allow them to stay in office.

    In addition, you`ve suggested that rape victims are purposefully alienated out of spite, rather than procedural necessity. The simple accusation of rape levied against a man can ruin his life permanently, just as rape can ruin a women`s. The nature of these allegations make them more damaging than any other - even murder.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    "...your attempts to identify me as some willfully ignorant man-monster oblivious to the plight of women..."

    Your words, not mine. All I said was that whether or not you educate yourself is not up to me. I don`t know enough about you to know if you are willfully ignorant or not. I assume the "man-monster" crack is to suggest that I`m one of those mythological shrill feminazis who dismiss any man`s attempt at speaking about women`s issues. Cute. As for democrats, I never said they weren`t responsible for what their elected leaders do. You seem to like putting words in my mouth (fingers? I never know how to word that phrase on the internet). The point I was trying to make when I said that conservatives are responsible for politicians getting away with this crap is that I think we as voters have a duty to hold our leaders to certain standards and call them out when they fail to meet such standards. Correct me if I`m wrong, but I don`t see any conservatives doi
  58. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Lillian: There`s no shortage of children needing to be adopted

    If you mean older children, perhaps foster children, you`re correct. There is a shortage of newborns though and people are going all over the world to find them and adopt them.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    I really need to work on not writing run-on sentences.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Don`t you conservative nitwits get tired of apologizing for the idiotic statements made by your bible-thumpin` gay-hatin` Jebus-wheezin` elected morons?

    Go on, for once, just ADMIT that you agree with these asshats. I dare you.

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    nubblins: you seem to think a little ball of cells that isn`t viable outside the womb has more rights than a fully grown woman

    No I believe they should have equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    If a girl is raped, you think it`s right to FORCE her to go through the trauma of pregnancy?

    No I don`t, she should immediately seek emergency contraception, as I said below.

    Now if it`s 6 months down the road and the girl claims she was raped, and wants an abortion, that`s a whole other story.

    Thank GOD when I was date raped I had access to Plan B

    And I don`t think plan B is abortion, as I said below.
  62. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    Your words, not mine.
    I extrapolated.

    Cute.
    I do what I can.

    You seem to like putting words in my mouth
    I`d stick with "words"... "fingers" just seems wrong.

    I think we as voters have a duty to hold our leaders to certain standards and call them out when they fail to meet such standards.
    Now this is what I was looking for. I agree with this statement entirely; however, I reject any notion that we can blame all conservatives for the current stupidity and I reject the implication that it is solely the fault of conservatives.

    Would you also agree that liberals are partially to blame for failing to offer more fiscally moderate candidates thus "forcing" many conservatives to vote against them?

    Also, is it not the fault of both parties for actively dismantling the capacity of alternate 3rd parties?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    @BoredFrank: Go on, for once, just ADMIT that you agree with these asshats. I dare you.
    I agree with Ron Paul`s quote 100%. If a woman is raped and so chooses, she should seek emergency contraception immediately. What do I win?
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    You win, let`s see, THE PERSONALITY OF AN ARROGANT GASBAG!

    Oops, I see you own that already. Sorry!
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    "I`d stick with "words"... "fingers" just seems wrong."

    I LOLed.

    "I reject any notion that we can blame all conservatives for the current stupidity and I reject the implication that it is solely the fault of conservatives."

    Agreed, but as a whole, the group holds a degree of responsibility.

    "Would you also agree that liberals are partially to blame for failing to offer more fiscally moderate candidates thus "forcing" many conservatives to vote against them?"

    I don`t have an easy answer for that because I think it`s more complicated than a simple yes or no.

    "Also, is it not the fault of both parties for actively dismantling the capacity of alternate 3rd parties?"

    Yes.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Frankly I can`t understand why any decent person would choose to align themselves with a political party that carries such an abysmal track record on gender, race, and civil rights issues. It baffles me.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    @BoredFrank

    You win, let`s see, THE PERSONALITY OF AN ARROGANT GASBAG!
    That should go well with my other personality: likes long walks on the beach; watching sunsets; fine wine by candlelight; and French films.

    Winning, duh!
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    Protip, HumanAction. A year-old Charlie Sheen sound byte doesn`t win you any verbal skirmishes.

    It simply confirms someone`s Grandpa is up way past his bedtime.

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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    Agreed, but as a whole, the group holds a degree of responsibility.
    Surely; the GROUP holds quite a bit of the responsibility.

    Frankly I can`t understand why any decent person would choose to align themselves with a political party that carries such an abysmal track record on gender, race, and civil rights issues.
    Because the other party is just as scary. At the end of the day, both parties want to control us. The Republicans seem to think it is their obligation to dictate morality to us; then again, the Democrats do too. The Republicans want to control our bed manners; the Democrats want to control our pocketbook habits.

    Unfortunately, both of these parties lead us to the same place. We cannot have economic freedom without social freedom, and we cannot have social freedom with out economic freedom.
  70. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    @BoredFrank

    Protip, HumanAction. A year-old Charlie Sheen sound byte doesn`t win you any verbal skirmishes.
    Protip, using Protip doesn`t win you any verbal skirmishes (See: Using Protip Doesn`t Win You Any Verbal Skirmishes).

    Then again, is this even a `verbal` skirmish? o_O
  71. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    And that`s why I`m registered as independent.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 25, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    The `other party`, human Action, is *far* from perfect -- but at least they don`t seem intent on establishing a backwoods theocracy, which appears to be the single intent of the present-day Rethuglicans.

    Seriously, HumanAction, you don`t seem like a moron. Why are you defending these assclown Republicans? Isn`t that up to CrarJackoff and Auburnmonkey?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    but at least they don`t seem intent on establishing a backwoods theocracy, which appears to be the single intent of the present-day Rethuglicans.
    Instead, they are hellbent on destroying federalism. Which is, in my opinion, a much more sinister and dangerous idea.

    Seriously, HumanAction, you don`t seem like a moron.
    Says the moron. Seriously, given your statements, I consider you an imbecile. You should keep that in mind when attempting to give me some half-assed complement.

    Why are you defending these assclown Republicans?
    Because I defend the side that I believe is correct, regardless of political affiliation.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    Why are these people telling women what to do?
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    Any human life is a gift from God...

    Thanks, God, for that twisted gift you gave the world named Hitler.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    If any woman votes for any Republican candidate, if any gay man votes for any Republican candidate, if any single mothers, persons who have ever had an abortion, anyone who has used or uses food stamps, WIC or any form assistance that exceeded the amount they paid in, you are an legitimate forceful retard (to quote several Republican idiots).
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    And, just so I`m clear about that, drat you for thinking you have a goddamned right to actually force your beliefs on me and my family. I would never dream of doing the same to you.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    If any woman votes for any Republican candidate, if any gay man votes for any Republican candidate, if any single mothers, persons who have ever had an abortion, anyone who has used or uses food stamps, WIC or any form assistance that exceeded the amount they paid in, you are an legitimate forceful retard (to quote several Republican idiots).

    Even if they voted for a candidate that consistently opposed at least one these positions?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    Cajun, you show me a Republican on the national level who`s actually VOTED against those positions, and I`ll show you the exception that proves the rule. This is a war. Seriously. We`re talking about a group of people literally wanting to encode their religious beliefs into our country`s laws. It`s not even mildly funny. I`m all for freedom of religion. I`m all for people living their lives as they see fit. I get spun right the hell up when they try to literally write laws to force me (a veteran and tax payer) to live under rules of THEIR religion. drat them!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Cajun, you show me a Republican on the national level who`s actually VOTED against those positions, and I`ll show you the exception that proves the rule.

    Ron Paul (and family) is all for Gay marriage, so is Gary Johnson (Republican Gov of New Mexico) currently Libertarian candidate for the office of POTUS.
    Some other guys:
    Dick Cheney (believe it or not)
    Lincoln Chafee
    Dan Evans
    Ileana Ros-Leithna
    Tomp Campbell
    Wayne Gilchrest
    Michael Huffington
    Jim Kolbe
    Chris Shays
    Lowell P Weicker Jr

    I can`t say much for the other positions other than most Republicans except for both R Pauls and Johnson pretend to be fiscally conservative.
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
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    October 25, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    The last one makes me sick.
    Some men have no idea how painful sex is when you don`t want it. Feels like someone stabbing you repeatedly in an open wound.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    The GOP is NOT as anti-Gay as you think it is

    As a registered Republican myself I just wish they`d endorse Gay marriage already.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3925 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    "If any woman votes for any Republican candidate, if any gay man votes for any Republican candidate, if any single mothers, persons who have ever had an abortion, anyone who has used or uses food stamps, WIC or any form assistance that exceeded the amount they paid in, you are an legitimate forceful retard (to quote several Republican idiots)."

    I voted for Republican Bill Finkbeiner for Lieutenant Governor of Washington State. He is way more socially liberal than the Democrat. He`s a Republican who is pro-choice and supports gay marriage. And he is not just giving lip service. He has a track record to support his stance. And no he is not a Libertarian.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3925 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    "The GOP is NOT as anti-Gay as you think it is. As a registered Republican myself I just wish they`d endorse Gay marriage already."

    I would agree. My conservative parents are loving and accepting of gay people. Not just tolerant but accepting. And they were accepting before they even knew I was gay.

    The thing that bothers me about the actual Republican party is they use anti-gay stances to get bigots to the polls. That isn`t cool. And you usually only see them come out for gay rights after they are out of office - see Dick Cheney.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm
    "If you mean older children, perhaps foster children, you`re correct. There is a shortage of newborns though and people are going all over the world to find them and adopt them. "

    So because people are picky, women should be forced to stay pregnant including all the life long repercussions for doing so to provide the perfect healthy caucasian fresh from the vagina infant for them? Because it`s not just older children that are waiting for a loving parent. Minorities are less likely to be adopted and handicapped children are less likely to be adopted. What if one of the women forced to stay pregnant gave birth to a handicapped or minority child? There`s a good chance it wouldn`t end up adopted. Also a lot of people adopt from other countries because it`s cheaper and there`s less restrictions, not because there`s a shortage of fresh from the vagina infants.
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    jainjane Female 30-39
    23 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    These statements are an accurate representation of the attitude towards sex crimes. Crimes that are TOLERATED. Alas, we do have lists. (that`ll stop`m) It is a small small percentage where the crime is reported, believed, prosecuted and brought to conviction. Also because of the cases where a `legal` adult (18)has a consenting relationship with a 17 yr old and then is put on this registry, many sex offenders can and do apparently, claim that they also have been unfairly judged. Disturbing.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 25, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Lillian: This is were you should be criticizing other childless women that only want a baby, not me.

    I can understand the reasons why women want healthy babies to adopt, Older children often have `baggage`, emotional and sometimes developmental problems. They want to raise a child from early on with their values and such.

    You may criticize those preferences, but men have little say in the matter.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    October 26, 2012 at 7:30 am
    All of these "personhood" amendments being proposed by conservatives would logically make in vitro fertilization difficult, if not illegal. Kind of ridiculous imo, especially since a few of Romney`s sons have used IVF.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    October 26, 2012 at 8:09 am
    CJ, I`m not criticizing them for wanting that. I`m criticizing you for thinking women should be forced to stay pregnant just to provide fresh from the vagina infants for parents who want to adopt but don`t want to adopt the children who are already in the system. If people want to give up their newborn for adoption, it`s their decision and I support that. I do not support the belief that everyone who doesn`t want a child should be forced to do that just to provide newborns for other people. We aren`t simply walking incubators.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    October 26, 2012 at 10:21 am
    I`d say if they want a child "fresh from the box" so-to-speak those potential parents should pay extra. Otherwise there are plenty of children waiting in orphanages to be adopted.
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    grapehead Male 18-29
    408 posts
    October 26, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    imma go rape some republican women now
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    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    October 26, 2012 at 11:25 pm
    Lame and a partisan exaggeration.

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