Republicans Bashing Obama The Wrong Way [Pic]

Submitted by: littlemissqt 4 years ago

If anything, this should drive *more* people to vote for Obama.
There are 37 comments:
Male 5,564
@HolyGod,
The last 2 lines of your excellent comment are especially important. There`s a potential for what has been called the tyranny of democracy in which, by popular vote, anything could potentially be made illegal including any religion, fish on Friday, non-kosher food, movies, skirts...anything the majority of voters happen to frown upon at the moment. You said it so well it deserves repeating...
"Not everything should be voted on. The majority should never be allowed to vote to discriminate."
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Male 10,339
Agreed Holy. Well put.
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Male 7,915
AuburnJunkey

"Not the same. Marriage is not a right, and Gay is not a race. "

Whoa. That isn`t what you said. You said: "States rights matters should always be voted on by the citizenry." You had no equivocation.

OK. Gay isn`t a race. But it isn`t a choice either (in my opinion). However we don`t discriminate in America based on religion and that certainly is a choice.

So would you be OK with Alabama putting an initiative on the ballot that made it so Muslims couldn`t own businesses?

That may be hyperbolic but the point is not everything should be voted on. The majority should never be allowed to vote to discriminate.

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Male 5,811
[quote]why is it only "fair" when your views trump mine?[/quote]
I`m sure people like you said that when women wanted the vote. Traditionally only men could vote, so why change the definition of "voter" to something people like you don`t agree with?
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Male 14,330
Dropped the ball there shoud`ve been this....

These people want you to vote Obama or die...

When would you ever listen to these people!
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Male 579
Nothing changed? Tax revenues did. But, you know, whatever... why is it only "fair" when your views trump mine?
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Male 5,811
I remember the day that gay marriage became legal here. So much changed...wait, nothing changed except gay people can get married. Moving on.
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Male 329
Effect of this ad varies depending on demographic of the community it is installed in. More often than not it should fail... as it is definitely a hate oriented ad.
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Male 5,094
Preaching for the choir.
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Male 10,339
I never said it was a choice, but it isn`t a race either.

(Devil`s advocate glasses still on. Don`t freak out people! lol)
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Male 74
"Not the same. Marriage is not a right, and Gay is not a race."

So by by that implication you mean gay is a choice? or am I missing something, not saying you were implicating, I just think you need to better explain that one
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Male 404
littlemissqt

Do you seriously think most people support gay marriage and abortion? Pull your head out of the sand. The internets would have you believe we are all democrats because apparently that`s "cool". I`m all for gay marriage. and abortion should be allowed in rape and health cases IMO. However my in-laws would argue with me until they are blue in the face because they are "all in republicans". We`re all allowed to have our own opinions.
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Male 10,339
"So in the 60s if states would have gotten to vote on de-segregation in the south you think they should have been able to?"

(Puts on devil`s advocate glasses, because you obviously want this debate lol)

Not the same. Marriage is not a right, and Gay is not a race.
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Male 560
@littlemissqt This is what I don`t get about Liberals the inate belief that their views are correct and everyone must agree with them. Don`t get me wrong I agree with abortion and have my views on gay marriage (make marriage a purely separate religious institution and the state only does civil partnerships for hetero and homo couples)That won`t be in Cali it will be in a state where majority are anti abortion and gay marriage...
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Male 514
That might be an effective sign to win votes in the bible belt.... just sayin`
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Male 7,915
AuburnJunky

"States rights matters should always be voted on by the citizenry."

So in the 60s if states would have gotten to vote on de-segregation in the south you think they should have been able to?
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Male 7,915
markust123

"Because civil rights should never be voted on."

I wouldn`t call marriage a "right". Maybe focus more on civil "equality". But I absolutely agree with you.

I`m pretty sure if they had de-segregation or mixed race marriage on the ballot in mississippi in the 60s they would have failed. Being in the majority DOES not make you right.

That is why we are a constitutional republic with representative democracy and NOT a pure democracy. Specifically because the founding fathers knew how wrong the majority could be.
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Male 7,915
AUburnJunky

"31 times Gay Marriage has been on the ballot in a state, and 31 times it has failed. Whyyyyyyy?

Because the majority of people in each of those states do not approve of it. Easy peasey, Japanesey."

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. I`m going to tell you right now and I bet you even agree.

A ballot proposition does NOT mean what "the majority of people in each of those states" think. It means what the majority of people in that state that are VOTING think. Who turns out in greatest percentages to vote, especially during non-residential voting years? Older people. Which group is least accepting of gay marriage? Older people.

If 95% of people in a state support gay marriage but the ones that vote on the issue is the other 5% it really doesn`t matter what most people think.

Most people support gay marriage no matter what happens on ballots.
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Male 4,291
"31 times Gay Marriage has been on the ballot in a state, and 31 times it has failed. Whyyyyyyy?"

Because civil rights should never be voted on. But even so, just wait. Washington state will pass it with a vote this November.
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Male 1,197
to choose you government on this issue? im pretty sure america has many more pressing issues than gay marrage ...
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Male 13,624
elkingo
nail - head
everyone should have the same quality of life
it is the 21st century
Well done sir very well put
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Male 10,339
States rights matters should always be voted on by the citizenry.

That being said, an activist judge will almost always over-rule the citizens, so you`re right. It doesn`t matter anymore.
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Male 787
Auburn, Isn`t it voted on by representatives and not actual citizens? So three dots in a triangular pattern, no one really has any say any more in America republican or otherwise.
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Male 10,339
Okay Cajun. I am gonna fall for the trap....

31 times Gay Marriage has been on the ballot in a state, and 31 times it has failed. Whyyyyyyy?

Because the majority of people in each of those states do not approve of it. Easy peasey, Japanesey.

Now. I await your rebuttal of how the remaining 19 all unanimously support it, so I am technically wrong.

Before you go down that road, keep in mind, it has never been up for vote in Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, or many other red states.

All that being said, I support a gay persons right to join legally with their chosen spouse.
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Male 15,832
Like it or not, that fact is, this is the majority opinion in the US today.
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Male 833
more `attack` ads need to be like this
simple, to the point, and pure fact
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Male 1,015
Gay abortion ??
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Male 554
i pass that sign every day ...in the south side of Columbus.... wow

.. and still not voting
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Female 325
Two things in my life that have nothing at all to do with your dumb ass.
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Male 10,845
[quote]Most Americans do not support these things, so no.[/quote]

Most actually do support Gay Marriage.
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Male 10,339
Most Americans do not support these things, so no. It wouldn`t drive folks to Obama.
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Male 10,845
[quote]If anything, this should drive *more* people to vote for Obama. [/quote]

Couldn`t have said it better myself actually

@elkingo

Totally agree with you.
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Male 303
@elkingo
You are my hero. You have restored my faith in humanity.
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Male 1,293
elkingo

Civil union works extremely well in the UK. There is no stigma, it is often called marriage, but it does not impinge on the religious idea of marriage. I am a libertarian atheist, and would actually prefer a civil union to a marriage as I am not religious and think the idea of marriage (even a civil one) is religious.
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Male 1,293
It`s funny that those on the left not only hate people with different views, they actually don`t understand them and don`t believe those views might be widespread, indeed more widespread than their own views in at least one of these issues.

They are blinded by the cultural conformity they see, by not interacting with people different from themselves, and by bullying those that disagree with them into silence. So they never hear views different from their own expressed widely.
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Male 5,620
I used to not support gay marriage. I am conservative as they come.

Then I studied and read about the logical argument. I still think marriage is a religious term, and would argue that. However, my view has been more informed.

I now think that either 1 of 2 things should happen.

1. No one gets tax privileges based on marriage, nor should anyone have visitation and health care rights altered due to marriage status.

2. Everyone who enters into a union should receive the same tax benefits and social liberties.

However, there is also the issue of homosexuals feeling like second class citizens. No one deserves that.

Thus, my final view changed over the years. Everyone deserves the right to happiness and marriage. Everyone deserves liberties.

Thus, over time, and through study, I support gay marriage.

I still consider myself a conservative also.
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Female 1,330
Link: Republicans Bashing Obama The Wrong Way [Pic] [Rate Link] - If anything, this should drive *more* people to vote for Obama.
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