Neil deGrasse Tyson On Last Night`s Debate [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago in

Hey, maybe Neil deGrasse Tyson for US President? Couldn"t do any worse.
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Male 9,496
clownsrcool

"HAHAHAHAHA

"People need to stop worshiping Tyson just because he releases sound bytes that sound smarter than they are."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The little kid thinks that he is in a position to make a judgement call on the intelligence of the comments of the world-renowned, harvard-educated, astrophysicist.

You picked your name well because you are a f.ucking clown for sure. I look forward to laughing at your future comments.
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Female 1,803
I find it amusing that a guy who thinks horse dancing is a worthwhile expense would want to prevent educational and cultural programming from reaching people who can`t afford cable tv. Another way to screw the poor.
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Male 2
This is a completely facetious argument and a weak attempt to look more clever than he is. By his logic, the only things we should cut are education, military support or health care. Further, if you payed attention to the debate at all, you would know that Romney said funding to PBS would be AMONG the things he would cut funding to, not the only thing. Finally, PBS was first introduced to provide an alternative to the big three stations at the time, something that is no longer necessary.

People need to stop worshipping Tyson just because he releases sound bytes that sound smarter than they are.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Sooooo... why can`t PBS just compete with other stations?[/quote]
Because it`s educational. Most Americans would rather be whipped up and entertained by people partying or shows about rednecks being rednecks. Even the History Channel has to whore out in your country. It`s sad when all educational programming is ignored because it`s "boring." So is the problem really with PBS?
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Male 579
Sooooo... why can`t PBS just compete with other stations? If they are so great then no one loses a job, in fact, maybe it helps the economy because they`d have to advertise and raise more revenue. Who says all these folks would suddenly be out of work?
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Male 5,811
[quote]Find a viable alternative. Until the day that my car can run on tap water, DRILL BABY DRILL![/quote]
The problem AJ is that alternatives simply cost more, partly because the technology isn`t fully developed and partly because the infrastructure for oil has been in place for decades. The realities are that when gas prices are low, government and industry have pulled most of their funds for research, halting progress. We need to develop alternative energy infrastructures and then prices will reduce. However in the meantime we`re consuming far too much oil, and at the rate China is buying up all natural resources, in 50 years you could be begging China for oil. Do you want that?
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Male 10,338
Gotta crack an egg to make an omelet.
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Male 1,745
If we`re at the maximum of the curve right now. But that just makes the situation worse. So all we have to do is cut programs without raising unemployment. PBS employs 200-500 people according to their LinkedIn profile, using 350 as a round number, 10,000 programs like that employs 3.5 million people. Cutting them all (if there are even 10,000 such programs) will put 3.5 million people out of work. Raising unemployment from 8.1% to 10.4% burdening the economy even further.
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Male 10,338
Raising taxes lowers revenue.

Laffer curve FTW.
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Male 1,745
No my point is you`re going to need to cut real dollars and raise taxes to balance the budget, and that will affect many millions of people`s livelihood. You can`t balance the budget by 1. not raising taxes, but by 2. cutting programs without 3. raising unemployment.
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Male 10,338
Jesus. Open your freaking mind!

Never mind.

Basically, you`re saying:

"We can`t save it all, so save nothing! Continue to borrow from China!"
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Male 1,745
Just for arguments sake I`ll assume that grant exists. Cutting it will save you an additional 3 cents/month in my analogy.
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Male 10,338
If he decides to cut an art grant for $250,000 that pays some ballet dancer to put on an interpretive dance explaining the birth of a plant cell, put on in the basement of a hipster poetry slam club in East Jesus, Alaska; then that`s one step closer to budget equality.
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Male 1,745
"Now, cut 10,000 programs just like it."

Ok, name them. Also, you just laid of 3.5 million people.
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Male 10,338
"you say you`re going to stop spending that wasteful 35 cents/month."

Now, cut 10,000 programs just like it.

OOPS! That`s 3,500 a month is budget cuts. PROGRESS!

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Male 1,745
The situation is dire and Romney`s statement is laughable:

You make $2400/month and your expenses are $3300/month. You owe $160,000 on your credit card. When asked how you plan to fix the situation, you say you`re going to stop spending that wasteful 35 cents/month.
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Male 10,338
You misunderstand me.

I am all for advancement as well.

I just don`t understand why we can`t fully use the technology we do have right now, while we research that technology.

Find a viable alternative. Until the day that my car can run on tap water, DRILL BABY DRILL!
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Male 4,844
When you push petty politics that will block the advancement of your own country then you have already lost.
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Male 9,496
AuburnJunkey

"He could not have possibly laid out the whole list."

Absolutely agreed. However as far as I know he hasn`t laid it out anywhere. He could certainly post it online somewhere.
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Male 4,844
"Solyndra was not an investment [in future energy]."

Really, your answer is a talking point? There were many programs that succeeded and great advancements will come from them. I am and will always be on the side of science and advancements.

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Male 10,338
"Investing in future energy is not a waste."

Solyndra was not an investment. Solyndra was a payment to a supporter. It was a business Obama chose to win.

Mitt said it best when he said "You can`t choose winners and losers, and in your (Obama) case, you chose losers".

I can`t believe for a second that it was the only one.
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Male 4,844
"Ignores Romney pointing out 90 BILLION in wasteful Obama spending... very specific wasteful spending, not `vague` at all."

Investing in future energy is not a waste. I want America to come up with these new ideas not some other country. To do that there will be a few failures but scientists learn from their mistakes. People like you who stick their heads in the sand and stick with the status quo go nowhere. That type of stagnant thinking will put the US behind other countries.
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Male 10,338
"To me it isn`t that he mentioned PBS, it is that he mentioned ONLY PBS."

He mentioned PBS because Jim Lehrer was there. He could not have possibly laid out the whole list.

poo, Rick Perry tried to recite 3 programs he`d cut, and look what happened! Ruined his whole campaign! lol.
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Male 9,496
OldOllie

"No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood"

I like that. I haven`t heard that before. Good post.

Regarding this though, if someone claims they can get rid of the flood and when asked how only mention how to get rid of a raindrop, can you really believe them? To me it isn`t that he mentioned PBS, it is that he mentioned ONLY PBS. If he released a list of all his cuts, and PBS was one of many I wouldn`t say anything.

Do you TRULY believe that if elected Romney will cut the deficit? I don`t. I would bet money that no matter which one is elected the deficit will be higher in 4 years. I`m just hoping someone can SLOW the growth.

I mean Reagan, Bush, and W had budget deficits EVERY year. EVERY year. "Fiscal conservatives" haven`t been fiscally conservative in the past. Why should we believe one now? Why do you believe him?
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Male 12,138
I think it`s worthwhile. Cutting educational programs like PBS will buy a few dozen Amtracks. Maybe a couple of F-35s.
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Male 15,832
How can someone that smart completely fail to grasp something as simple as the constitution? If you ever needed proof, this is it: liberalism is a mental disease.

Regarding that 0.012%,

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Male 787
Blank Tom, You know certain type of text files can be sent, and even read, in their unextracted format? Look it up. It may just get you that promotion. (unless of course you need to run a script through said data rather than cataloging it using excel or whatever)
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Male 9,496
Shelworth

"it`s that a Government supported TV station is just plain wrong"

No it isn`t. A government RUN TV station is wrong. I for one think it is very important to have a station that is not beholden to revenue and can produce educational content without needing to appeal to advertisers.

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Male 1,745
0.012% of 500 gigs is around 60 megabytes. So it`s more like deleting around 5 mp3 songs.
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Male 1,674
@Mech, yeah pretty much.
it`s transactional data - close to a billion recrods each month. They get sent to us as severl txt files ~ 2GB each.

There are better way to do it - but they would be more expensive. We do this work for a client and they said if they were to charge them any more money they would have to outsource it to China.
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Male 813
BlankTom, what kind of retard system is sending 100GB text files? Is it sending the contents of an entire database in a .txt file or what?
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Male 1,084
@JoexBro We don`t answer to the crown, hell the UK barely answers the the crown.
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Male 493
It`s not how much money PBS gets, it`s that a Government supported TV station is just plain wrong.
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Male 1,674
at work, we get monthly txt files delivered to us that total over 100GB. Our systems people are constantly getting on our case to delete them to free up room on the server.
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Male 557
@5cats
The Iraqi conflict was a waste of money and lives all in the name of mo money and mo power.
And dont you still live in a country where you answer to the crown? Some outdated form of government called a constitutional monarchy? So for us to say that you misunderstand American politics, is an understatement.
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Male 9,496
Tacos4Breakfast

"We could escalate the cuts and delete the porn folder too, but that would be a bit drastic."

Something tells me if you did that you would have budget surplus. ;)
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Male 9,496
5Cats

"Wow @HolyGod: How UNBIASED of you! Utterly NONPARTISAN indeed!
Tell me again how completely neutral you are...

"I`m talking about his big blocks like old people and red necks."
rly?"

COME ON. We have to be able to distinguish things that are jokes. But there is some truth to it. Old people vote heavily republican. Old people don`t know what a gig is. Rednecks vote heavily republican. Rednecks don`t know what a gig is. Do you disagree?

"Also: You hit "refresh" twice and accidentally triple-posted, eh?"

I guess I must have. No idea why that happened.
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Male 620
@holygod
We could escalate the cuts and delete the porn folder too, but that would be a bit drastic.
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Male 40,277
[quote]Romney supporters don`t know what a Gig is.[/quote]
Wow @HolyGod: How UNBIASED of you! Utterly NONPARTISAN indeed!
Tell me again how completely neutral you are...

"I`m talking about his big blocks like old people and red necks."
rly?

Also: You hit "refresh" twice and accidentally triple-posted, eh?
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Male 40,277
Ignores Romney pointing out 90 BILLION in wasteful Obama spending... very specific wasteful spending, not `vague` at all...

But go on "butthurt libtards` you mewling and crys of agony are music to my evil, right-wing ears!
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Male 14,331

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Female 4,359
oh, if a brain was actually a pre-requisite to be a politician.
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Male 2,841
HURR I KNOW MATH LOOK AT ME
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Male 9,496
AuburnJunkey

"He said he would cut ALL programs that we have to borrow from China to pay for, period."

Well he said anything ESSENTIAL that we have to borrow money to pay for.

Yes. But that is very easy to say. It is a little harder to say specifically what you think qualifies as "essential". Then you have to deal with those people who`s benefits or program you are planning on cutting. He only mentioned two specific things, one of which is a MINISCULE portion of the budget.
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Male 9,496
Tacos4Breakfast

"I just cut nearly ten billion bits in hard drive deficit."

Yes. But you needed almost 33,000 files to do it. PBS is one file. ONE file doesn`t make a difference.
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Male 10,338
"How was that an off-handed comment? He was asked what programs he would cut to fix the deficit and that was an example he gave."

He said he would cut ALL programs that we have to borrow from China to pay for, period.
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Male 9,496
Tacos4Breakfast

"I just cut nearly ten billion bits in hard drive deficit."

Yes. But you needed almost 33,000 files to do it. PBS is one file. ONE file doesn`t make a difference.
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Male 9,496
Tacos4Breakfast

"I just cut nearly ten billion bits in hard drive deficit."

Yes. But you needed almost 33,000 files to do it. PBS is one file. ONE file doesn`t make a difference.
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Male 9,496
Andrew155

"Liar. Defense, while it should be cut, is not that big. And it`s actually near one of its all time lows compared to Cold War spending rates. It`s the third largest budget item. "

That is a nice chart. But is is a bit over simplified. A portion of healthcare and discretionary end up being defense related.

Here is an alternate way to look at the numbers that has "defense" at almost a trillion, by far the highest.

http://tinyurl.com/7og3ujp
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Male 620
Neat.

I just cut nearly ten billion bits in hard drive deficit.
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Male 2,578
"his is not about money adding up...these small programs do not add up to even a drop in the bucket compared to say DEFENSE which is nearly 28% of the budget. "

Liar. Defense, while it should be cut, is not that big. And it`s actually near one of its all time lows compared to Cold War spending rates. It`s the third largest budget item.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2011.png
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Male 2,578
Guys, you have to cut everything. That`s the only way to narrow a 1+ trillion deficit. We are spending imaginary money to keep our lives this comfortable. It`s a fantasy that will come crashing down on us all quite soon.

Oh, all that war money and taxes on the rich would close that, you say. Yeah, that`s so true. Did you know cutting the military by 100% would still not balance the budget? Not even close. Or Taxing millionaires 100% wouldn`t cover expenses for one year. And then they would have, well, no money next year. Mission accomplished?
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Male 9,496
Jury1of1

"Huh? Bad analogy. I`ve seen 500GB text files."

HUH? On what planet? TEXT file? As in text? JUST text? A letter is a byte. A Gig is a Billion bytes. So a 500GB text file would be 500 billion letters long.

The world record for typing is 216 (1,080 letters) per minute. So at WORLD RECORD speed it would take someone 950 years to type a 500GB text file.
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Male 2,345
republicans want to cut anything that makes people think for themselves, like PBS or NPR. They have been trying for years to cut them despite the fact that they cost nearly nothing.

this is not about money adding up...these small programs do not add up to even a drop in the bucket compared to say DEFENSE which is nearly 28% of the budget.

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Male 2,345
republicans want to cut anything that makes people think for themselves, like PBS or NPR. They have been trying for years to cut them despite the fact that they cost nearly nothing.
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Male 132
Huh? Bad analogy. I`ve seen 500GB text files.
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Male 7,378
NdGT would make an excellent president, if he held onto his long form birth certificate.
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Male 9,496
Let me add an asterisk to my comment below.

I was obviously making generalizations. I know the Romney supporters on here know what a gig is. I`m talking about his big blocks like old people and red necks.
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Male 9,496
AuburnJunkey

"taking an off handed comment so seriously is ludicrous."

They were discussing how to balance the budget.
Romney says he can do it with cuts alone.
Obama said he wanted specifics.
Romney said he would cut PBS as one of two specific things he actually pointed out.
His biggest things are adding jobs and cutting the deficit.
He is saying he can do both by making budget cuts.
PBS is one of only two things he actually said.
How is that "off handed"
Seems kinda important to me.
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Male 9,496
This statement is pointless.

Obama supporters know this already.

Romney supporters don`t know what a Gig is.
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Male 1,814
I say get rid of all government subsidies and go back to doing only what they are supposed to do.

If the function is not directly related to the 18 specifically authorized functions of the Federal government, leave it to the states and/or the people.
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Female 2,549
*proportionally
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Female 2,549
@mOnsterzero that little cut may prevent them from hiring an intern or two. Who benefit from the experience and exposure and in Future are prove to be fantastic contributors to media.
Or cut expenditure on developing non formula programming. Or not sending their corruspondants on the trips.
We the consumer is jipped in the end
& propertioy that money is. It gonna make one iota of difference in the budget.
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Male 358
The income from sesame street merchandise alone can keep PBS running strong without government funding.
Not to mention the healthy donations they get from large private sector corporations and individual people.Cutting government funding will not kill off big bird, cancel NOVA or get rid of the antique road show.As long as the programming is entertaining, educational and informative the public will fund it through donations like they always have.
It would appear that getting involved in politics is not Mr. Tysons forte`. Maybe he should learn how to play the guitar like Brian May, astro-physicist/rock star extraordinaire.
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Male 815
Additionally, the benefits to the millions of viewers are out ways the cost; especially since quality educational programming has gone missing on most television channels... I mean, every the HISTORY channel has more shows about pawn-stores, fishing, or persons who drive trucks than programs about history.

Since PBS is seen as elitists since they have programming that doesn`t involve people being hit in the balls, or drunk housewives, so it is seen as just another avenue of liberals pushing their evil, elite, education children agenda...
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Male 815
Any attack is PBS is absolutely political and has no grounding on practicality whatsoever. According to what I`ve been able to find, PBS`s total expenditure for 2010 was $530m while its total revenue was $571m.
It should also be said that, the percentage NdGT quoted was likely the budget for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting(CPB), for 2012 the CPB`s budget was $445.2m with $26.65m going to PBS directly.

PBS Financial StatementCPB wiki
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Male 1,625
why does everyone jump on this guys d***?
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Male 2,667
The PBS thing might be small in comparison but it`s a perfect example of what is wrong with DC. There are thousands of federal government expenditures that should be axed. They not only add up to real money they`re at the root of the notion that DC can fix things if they just throw money around. The notion that the federal government should be the first place to look for solutions to problems is how this country got so F`ed in the first place.
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Male 439
It`s a good thing I already know that NDT is smart, otherwise I would think he is pretty stupid if he thinks Romney said that cutting PBS would balance the budget.
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Male 439
You could single out any individual program and say the same thing. Cutting no one program will make a dent on the debt. Cutting a couple hundred, plus the defense budget, just might.
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Male 3,431
I`m still gonna Vote for Kony in 2012, those were campaign posters, right?
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Male 464
15 TRILLION in debt

You should probably stop spending more on defence than england spends per annum.
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Male 3,445
`I love NdGT, but taking an off handed comment so seriously is ludicrous.`

How was that an off-handed comment? He was asked what programs he would cut to fix the deficit and that was an example he gave.
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Male 79

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Male 39,528

A billion here - a billion there.
Pretty soon you`re talkin` real money!
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Male 10,855
[quote]$456,000,000 annually[/quote]

$900,000,000,000 << HHS (Medicare/MedicAid)
$800,000,000,000 << OASDI (Social Security)
$720,000,000,000 << Dept of Defense
2011

Each of these got at least 10 zeros. Just sayin.
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Male 2,667
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Male 10,855
@AvatarJohn

To NDT`s point, we should be more concerned about HHS, Defense, and OASDI spending. Those are the biggest portions of our budget.
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Male 1,059
And another thing. If his numbers are correct, then the budget for PBS is $456,000,000 annually. That`s insignificant? That`s a $4,560,000,000 cut over 10 years. $4.5 billion is not insignificant. That`s a huge expenditure. That`s more than anyone on this planet will ever see in their entire lives. Cut it. Cut it out like the cancer it is.
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Male 10,338
I love NdGT, but taking an off handed comment so seriously is ludicrous.
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Male 1,059
Here`s the thing: THERE`S NO MORE MONEY!!!! And people keep saying this cut is insignificant and that cut is insignificant. Once again, THERE`S NO MORE OTHER PEOPLE`S MONEY!!!!!!! If every cut is insignificant and therefore shouldn`t be done then we`ll just go into bankruptcy and be like Greece and Spain. We gotta start somewhere. If your hard drive is full of 499 GB of trillions upon trillions of text files, you need to start deleting text files. So get started! Cut PBS and 1000 other useless programs like it and bam, we just cut 12% of the budget! Sounds like a plan!
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Male 815
Is there any relative measure to how awesome Neil deGrasse Tyson is? Man (-:
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Male 20,825
Link: Neil deGrasse Tyson On Last Night`s Debate [Pic] [Rate Link] - Hey, maybe Neil deGrasse Tyson for US President? Couldn`t do any worse.
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