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Date: 10/12/12 04:53 PM

55 Responses to Homeowner & Squatter Forced To Live Together

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    October 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Link: Homeowner & Squatter Forced To Live Together - So much wrong here. How is this legal?
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    skytz1337 Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    where else but in america lol
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Actually skytz, you need to expand your global education a bit.

    Squatting is a problem that has become prevalent globally because of the global recession that we have been in.

    In the US, while it is a pain in the @ss, state laws generally favor the owner and the squatter will be evicted. It is (from what I understand and have read) much more difficult in England, where the laws are more in the shades of gray and owners go through a great deal of difficulty in getting rid of squatters.

    While unfortunate, this homeowner will prevail and generally it is less than 60 days to get them out.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    This lady is an idiot. The squatter has no right to stay there. Kick her ass out the door and if she breaks in, show her the business end of a baseball bat.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    If I had to choose between this legal system, and a legal system where the homeowner could shoot the squatter, I`d choose the latter.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    "Kick her ass out the door and if she breaks in, show her the business end of a baseball bat."

    Unfortunately, the corrupt US government would come down extremely hard on the homeowner if this happened.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    is this the premise for the new kramer comedy?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    I call b.s.
    The squatter wasn`t arrested for the original break in because the house was vacant. Now the homeowner lives there. All she has to do is get the squatter outside, if she breaks in again, beat her ass and have her arrested. In some states, you can shoot someone breaking in, but in all states, you have the right to stop an intruder from breaking in.
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    GodDamnDevil Male 40-49
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    October 12, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    Effin NigNogs..what would you expect,,this bullpoo sense of entitlement is ridiculous. The owner should leave a note stating the house will be tented for a week to kill termites and as soon as the monkey goes outside, throw all her poo out, change the locks then have the tent removed.
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    why is there a law that actually protects squatters in this god forsaken city? oh yeah, because its detroit and all the p.o.s. self entitled union workers that are driving american car businesses into the ground (because they are forced to overpay monkeys to tighten bolts) have equally unjustified power in the local government to create these laws. therefore protecting what all the union workers will eventually become, bums and squatters.
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    blackcatseye Female 30-39
    685 posts
    October 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Stupid white bitch should have got house sitters. If she is stupid enough not to have thought of that, she doesn`t deserve the house. Why doesn`t she just rent it out? Big house like that sitting empty is criminal. Over here in England they are clamping down on empty house landlords, time to catch up dumbass yanks.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:01 pm
    Pure stupidity
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:01 pm
    You`re right blackcatseye, she should have known there dip poo black women out there that would do something like this.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:03 pm
    Blackcatseye is right-she should have got a house sitter-espcially with your type arond!!!
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    You`re right blackcatseye, she should have known there dip poo black women out there that would do something like this.
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    loleh Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    just kill her, say she attacked you, who they gonna beleave, its not gona be the crazy dead woman that moves into other peoples houses and claims she owns them...
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    This just proves my theory: write-in presidential candidates are always nuts.
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    loleh Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    in fact, after you killed her you could sue the city for all kinds of things for not removing her and putting your family`s lives in danger.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    I could think of dozens of ways to make her want to leave. Some of them might even be legal.
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    Ches47 Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    If it were me I`m making that bitches life miserable until she leaves.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    OldOllie: There are lots of ways, but I believe she wants to do this completely legally so she doesn`t get sued. Since she`s white, her black squatter would have no problems finding a lawyer to sue her for racism, if she tried something.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Sure could use John Galt right about now.
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
    930 posts
    October 12, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    This house was owned by someone who was away. That is considered breaking and entering trespassing etc not squatting. Upon return to the home you can legally shoot someone within the home as they are an intruder and THAT is legal. So the "process" of removal in this case is null really. The woman who invaded the home should be charged with a crime and arrested.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    is this real?
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Due process my ass. As far as I am concerned she ain`t a squatter, she`s a goddamn burglar and had better leave or get shot.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    `Since she`s white, her black squatter would have no problems finding a lawyer to sue her for racism, if she tried something.`

    No crazy generalizations here...
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    October 12, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    Corpsecrank
    turdburglar
    intrigid
    That`s not how it works in Detroit.
    A combination of Depression Era and post riot laws make available abandoned property not being maintained.
    If a person has been inside the home for 3 consecutive days, they cannot be removed by force, not even by the police, without an eviction procedure.

    It`s possible the city was watching the property and posted the address on a "nuisance abatement" bulletin because the previous owner owed taxes.

    A person attempting to claim that property can improve/care for the property for a period in order to pay the tax debt and be awarded the property.

    There are places where a person can claim an area after simply caring for it more than 2 years.
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    kree_ Male 30-39
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    October 12, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    Funny how the "squatter" has a rental agreement. From this owner who "forgot" she was renting the house out.
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    miasmaat Female 18-29
    298 posts
    October 12, 2012 at 11:44 pm
    this is ridiculous. How is this even possible?!! The legal situation surrounding this issue needs to be changed. the homeowner should be able to call the cops and have the woman removed if she has no paperwork giving permission for her to be there e.g. a lease.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
    1745 posts
    October 12, 2012 at 11:56 pm
    So if I wait until people go on vacation and go stay at their place a few days I somehow get to stay there?
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 12:43 am
    "So if I wait until people go on vacation"
    I`ve actually heard of that happening here.
    Never heard of anyone losing their home permanently, though.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 1:11 am
    @miasmaat-When I had my ex-wife and kids stay with me in Florida for a week, my ex changed her address legally without my knowledge. At the end of the week, she started her crazy crap,so I called the PD to have her removed.They said they couldn`t because she legally lived there now.They said " If she hangs her toothbrush in your bathroom and gets her mail at my apartment, she was a resident. A few months later,she got drunk and attacked me, physically. I called the law and I WAS ARRESTED for domestic battery and thrown in jail.After I was bailed out, I couldn`t go back to my home because of a restraining order.I was homeless and wound up losing my wallpaper installation business I ran from my home (since I couldn`t retrieve my tools and supplies. She,in the meantime brought in some dude, and they sold all my belongings.It was all legal and there was NOTHING I could do about it.I let her into my home,because her and the kids became homeless originally, and I didn`t want my kids to
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 1:14 am
    live like that.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 2:03 am
    Is this the American dream? Find a vacant home, break in, change the locks and borrow against it?
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    October 13, 2012 at 3:48 am
    That is the entitlement mentality of Detroit. Why a person would want to live in that crack-whore infested cess pool is beyond me.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
    373 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 5:04 am
    Ok robo I am officially stunned. Sucks on a tremendous level.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 5:06 am
    It is (from what I understand and have read) much more difficult in England, where the laws are more in the shades of gray and owners go through a great deal of difficulty in getting rid of squatters.

    It was, for a while. Essentially, some squatters misused laws intended to protect people renting property from abuse from the property owner. Squatting was always illegal in England, but it used to be a matter of civil law, not criminal law. Civil law takes longer. A squatter with a good knowledge of the relevant parts of the law could spin the process out for quite a while. That`s no longer true - it`s now a matter of criminal law, which means that the police are involved. They can force entry, arrest squatters and take them away.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 5:09 am
    why is there a law that actually protects squatters in this god forsaken city?

    Probably for the same reasons there used to be such laws in England - they were intended to protect tenants. Laws to do that are unfortunately necessary and it`s difficult to make laws that will protect tenants and which can`t be abused by squatters.
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    hauswyfe Female 30-39
    280 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 7:46 am
    Don`t the trespassing laws apply? I`m stumped.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Angillon - thanks for the info - I didn`t know that they were clearing that up over there.

    One of the difficulties here in the US (don`t know about Europe) that actually is in favor of the squatters is property abandonment laws. The time limits vary from state to state, but in most cases I have heard about this happening, generally the actually homeowner absent from the property for a minimum of a year. This muddies the water a bit (hence, not being able to just throw the squatter out) because the owner has to prove that they have not abandoned the property.

    Ideally, if she was going to be gone longer than six months, she should have sub-leased the house to someone; this would have ensured no squatters and she wouldn`t have to go to court to prove she didn`t abandon the property.
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    jfactor Male 18-29
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    October 13, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Just start being a really crappy room mate. Be crass, rude, harassing, obscene, etc.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 11:13 am
    "why is there a law that actually protects squatters in this god forsaken city?"
    Imagine you have a city filled with homeless, jobless people
    at the same time there is a large number of abandoned homes.
    The times may improve but, no one remembers to repair the ordinance.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    October 13, 2012 at 11:28 am

    robosnitz - Dayum that`s one effed up story. I suppose no good deed goes unpunished.

    CodeJockey - I don`t know about detroit, do they have different laws about this than everywhere else? Either way, this lady seems like a dim bulb. Who simply leaves their house abandoned for that long? Maybe she should be lucky that someone kept her house from being destroyed by neighborhood kids. Regardless, detroit has some messed up laws, and I agree with what oldollie said...
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    October 13, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    If she was going to away that long really should have rented it out for a while
    She did sound a bit dumb on the other hand
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    turdburglar
    There`s more to the story than the reporter is stating.

    Like I said, the person labeled as a squatter would have
    to have gotten or given the address to city for
    nuisance abatement.
    From the city`s perspective, the house may have seemed
    abandoned.

    So, she may literally be in danger of losing a house
    because she wasn`t cutting the grass and receiving the
    mail.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    October 13, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    I have an idea. Wait until the squatter leaves (she has to leave SOMETIME, right?), then change the locks and dump her stuff on the lawn. That`s essentially what happened to the homeowner, so I can`t imagine a situation where the squatter would be able to take legal action against the homeowner, as she squatter obviously won`t be able to produce anything that proves she has a legal right to be there (like a lease or a deed) aside from her word. Problem solved? I`m sure there`s something I`m overlooking, though.
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    kree_ Male 30-39
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    October 13, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Ferdyfred, she did rent it out. to the "squatter"
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    dmoltrup Male 30-39
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    October 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    There is a guy in New York City that gives classes, teaching homeless people how to move in to abandoned houses and apartments. They learn how to get the utilities turned on and possibly eventually OWN the property. Most places have laws that if a place is abandoned and you improve the property, after a period of time you can take ownership.
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    chance13 Male 40-49
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    October 14, 2012 at 6:07 am
    Well there`s a lot here that didn`t get reported.

    First, the squatter was renting the home from the owner earlier. Then, at the end of the rental agreement, someone broke into the house and cut out all the radiators, which the squatter replaced because she couldn`t reach the owner.

    After putting a construction lien on the house for her expenses, she still couldn`t reach the owner...for more than 6 months...so she turned the house in as abandoned.

    If you hold a lien on a house in Detroit that is declared abandoned, you can have it deeded to you...which is what was going on.

    This is all because the house was in the final steps of being declared abandoned and the legal status is still up in the air.

    Really very stupid on the part of the owner for disappearing for so long.
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    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2012 at 8:33 am
    this would make the best sitcom
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
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    October 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    oh give me a break people saying this is an entitlement issue. FFS. From the articles i`m reading she was paying rent to a previous owner no one informed her of any issue, she couldn`t get a hold of anyone and this whole thing got blown out of proportion. Uneducated idiots on both sides here. The buywr doesn`t seem very savy nor does the person in the house. EIther way there`s no ONE person to blame for this. A lot of guilty parties involved
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    jclv Male 40-49
    390 posts
    October 14, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    Hello 911? Someone broke into my home and shot the squatter living here and ran out the back!

    Problem solved.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 15, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I don`t understand why the police can`t remove her, especially because she seems to be mentally ill.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 15, 2012 at 10:22 am
    Just keep slipping laxatives into all her food and drink the problem will resolve itself.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    October 15, 2012 at 10:52 am
    there so many ways to get a squatter out.. i`ve done it.. you just threatin them... trust me people don`t like living in fear...

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