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Date: 10/18/12 11:49 AM

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:52 am
    Link: Billy Graham Took Out A Page Of The WSJ - Southern Baptist minister, Graham bought an entire page of the Wall Street Journal to tell us to vote the biblical way.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:59 am
    So some old fart is stuck in the past.

    Yawn.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Fun fact: Obama is a protestant Christian. Romney is not.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    "biblical definition of marriage"... do these morons ever read the bible? Or are they too busy hitting us over the head with? On any other day, he`d be saying Mormons are going straight to hell.

    Well, what can you expect from a man who saw a 70 foot Jesus standing in the road, who told him God would kill him if his chuch members didn`t give him 8 million dollars? Yeah, he did that back in the `80s. `Cause God`s an extortionist, right
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    I would never say this about any other human but, I hope Billy Graham dies.

    Wait...I should add Pat Robertson to that short list.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    Just for that, I`m voting Obama. I was going to write in Paul, but now I have to vote Obama. Screw you, bible-thumpers.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    Oh, by the way, electing Obama (or Romney) will not affect your ability to practice your religion in any way, shape, or form.
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    mesovortex Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    What a butthole. He wants a theocracy, not a democracy.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Who?
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    Langer Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:23 pm
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    what a douche.
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    toqr Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    Separation of church and state... What the hell happened??!
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    toqr Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    nubblins. romney is a mormon which makes him look like an even bigger idiot.
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    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Why are religious men that claim to be straight always so concerned with gay sex and the workings of other peoples anus?

    Just go ahead and die already. Maybe you will take part of your archaic and prejudice views to the grave with you.

    drat Billy Graham and his whole crew. If you are down with billy Graham, drat you, too.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    This crazy old coot spent his life preaching that Mormonism is a cult. Now his hatred of gays makes him rethink his hatred of magic underpants? Weak.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Gerry: You`re mistaken. Billy Graham NEVER said God would kill him over $8 million. You have him mistaken for Oral Roberts.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    What utter nonsence from a ignorant old douchebag.
    Being yourself and thinking logicaly are what these pukes don`t want.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Didn`t endorse anyone in particular. Butt hurt?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    No he didn`t madest. Cite that.

    Mormonism is a Christian sect.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Also, he didn`t endorse anyone.

    From this, he could be endorsing Obama.
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    Big61AL Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    he can`r die quick enough for me...
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    pretty sure that Palpatine
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    so he isn`t endorsing anyone? what he is asking for isn`t really presented by either candidate.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    I know he`s a Mormon.
    Those guys come to my door all the goddamn time and try to talk me into their cult.
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    caper454 Female 70 & Over
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    Israel is the most evil so-called nation on the planet. Does this butthole realize that when he tells people to support it?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    Could you at least spend your last days NOT promoting stupidity?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    Separation of church and state... What the hell happened??!

    Ummmm nothing he holds no office what so ever.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    @caper454

    Last time I checked it wasn`t Isreal that still practices in stoning infedels to death.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    I think it`s important that we run our government on religious principles and that our political leaders embody those beliefs! If we do it right, we can be just like Iran! Or Iraq! Yay for us! We may get there yet!
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    Jaellot Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    Cajun247- Why change now when it`s been his schtick for the past 94 years?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    @CoyoteKing - I was thinking the same thing. That`s just a waste of money. I was curious so I looked it up and found that it costs around $250,000 for a full page (non-contract) black & white ad in the WSJ.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    caper454: Israel is much more open and free than you`ve led to believe. I don`t know who`s been filling your head with palestinian propagandist BS, but Israel is one of the most prosperous nations in that area.

    What is evil is the remnants of Nazi antisemitism in hamas, hezbollah and the muslim brotherhood. Israel is willing to co-exist with it`s neighbors, it`s neighbors are not.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    madest: That `crazy old coot` you`re disrespecting has done more good for this nation and this planet than any president ever has.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    October 18, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    Ain`t it funny that Graham just removed `Mormon` from his list of cults, a mere week after Mittens "paid" him a visit? Now we know who paid for that quarter million dollar ad, don`t we?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    Good ol` Mullah Graham. Praise be to him! May the all-knowing and benevolent Allah accept Mullah Graham into His warm embrace upon death, he has done more for the US, Allah`s Chosen Land, than all of the false leaders held up by foolish men. That evil Thomas Jefferson, for example, and may he rot in hell, did nothing for this country when compared to the good Mullah. Allah akbar, Mulla Graham akbar!
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I was curious so I looked it up and found that it costs around $250,000 for a full page (non-contract) black & white ad in the WSJ.
    Well, there`s a good use of collection plate money...
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    Gerry: CrakrJak is correct. It was Oral Roberts, and it wasn`t a 70 foot tall Jesus... it was a 900 foot tall Jesus.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 18, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Yes, yes, you`re right. It was Oral Roberts. But on this topic, Billy Graham has still been beating people over the head with a bible for 70 years. Back in the 50s when he invented the Drive In Church he started and hasn`t stopped. IT`s like he`s died but hasn`t had the grace to lay down.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    Like marriage between a man and a wife and wife and wife and wife and wife.... Plus the special jammies. Don`t forget the jammies. Oh and moroni oh and... At least UT has epic skiing and boarding!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    Gerry: Some people could use a good Bible Thumpin` to get them out of the bad choices and misery they make for themselves. But that`s besides the point. Billy Graham has drawn huge crowds to him, not by `beating them up` but by comforting them and giving them hope.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    @Gerry, I think it was Robert Schuyler(Crystal Cathedral)that was the drive in guy.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:20 pm
    AuburnJunky

    "Also, he didn`t endorse anyone.

    From this, he could be endorsing Obama."

    Ummmm. Did you actually read it? He says marriage between man and woman and the sanctity of life. He is talking about someone being pro-life and against gay marriage. He is CLEARLY not talking about Obama.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    "I realize this election could be my last"

    Fingers crossed.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    Again the tolerance exhibited by the left is astounding.
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    avail9988 Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    fck this guy
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    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 6:37 pm
    one nation under greed
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    DromEd

    "Again the tolerance exhibited by the left is astounding."

    Railing against intolerance is in defense of tolerance.

    He is welcome to practice anything he wants. I have total tolerance for that. However, he wants to force his beliefs into public policy and promote intolerance that takes rights away from others.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    "...biblical definition..."
    Me and my 6 wives and 2 concubines, some of whom "lost" their entire family say, Molech be with you, Sir...
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    Oh lookie. Moldy Dog has all the answers again...surprise surprise. Tolerance is fine unless you disagree with Moldy Dog. Face it dude. You`re a narcissistic douche nozzle with a tiny url fetish. :-)
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    Good one DromEd. :-)
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 8:05 pm
    DromEd, do you understand what tolerance means? Graham just printed an entire page ad discounting a portion of our population, attempting to subjugate them to second class citizens by defining "Biblical Marriage" per his OWN definition, not God`s, not the Bibles. So, defending those people by saying he`s bigoted dratnut isn`t intolerant. It`s a statement against one man`s bigotry against millions of people. That you refuse to accept that doesn`t change the definition of the word.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    But, hey, I`m sure Mullah Graham will meet Allah soon. And Allah will grant the good Mullah his just rewards. I mean, as Crakr said, he did more for the country than Lincoln (you know, that whole slave thing was considered against the Bible), and much, much more than the Dalai Lama, an evil man who preached evil deeds and never helped or stuck up for anyone. Certainly not as much as Mullah Graham. Yes, yes, praise be to Allah and let the good Mullah rule us all with his heavenly goodness.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    DromEd

    Hahahaha. Very nice. You must be an absolute riot at the 3rd grade lunch table.

    You don`t deserve an intelligent retort, but if you`d like one you can read smagboy`s. He seems willing to waste his time on you.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    This country got better when the sexist generation that was against women having any rights including the right to vote died off.

    This country got better when the racist generation that was against blacks having any rights including the right to go to school died off.

    This country will get better when the bigoted generation that is against gays having any rights including the right to marry die off.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    HG: You`ve been a troll from the beginning, It began with your choice of nickname and spouting atheist garbage. Your anti-Christian bent is going over the edge, now your wishing death on us.

    In order to give an intelligence retort, you first need some intelligence. Instead, you display your ignorance by equating us with misogynists and racists.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    Billy graham is just a 21st century hawker of crap
    a dinosaur, get real
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:34 pm
    Thats coming from a Brit,
    we dont really do religion over here, more dancing round maypoles and pagan stuff
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    Andicicle Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2012 at 11:58 pm
    HG, don`t listen to him. He`s a religious wing nut.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 12:15 am
    CrakrJak

    "You`ve been a troll from the beginning"

    You really think I`m a troll? Way more people on this site seem to agree with more of my opinions then yours. Being an atheist is not trolling, it is common sense. If your parents and / or society wouldn`t have indoctrinated you from birth you`d be an atheist too.

    "Your anti-Christian bent"

    I am NOT anti-Christian. I am anti-religion. If you were a muslim or a jew or a hindu I`d think you were just as silly.

    "your wishing death on us"

    I don`t wish death on you. I just stated that the country progresses and gets better when generations that are bigoted aren`t here anymore.

    "equating us with misogynists and racists"

    Thinking men and women don`t deserve the same privileges, thinking blacks and whites don`t deserve the same privileges, and thinking straights and gays don`t deserve the same privileges IS the same. You don`t think
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 12:19 am
    You don`t think so because you are a bigot. Sorry. Look it up.

    "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group differently"
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 1:50 am
    umm mitt is pro-life
    not Christian
    and was gov of a state that legalized gay marriage.

    but despite all that what Billy G. was saying is vote for him because he is the white guy.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 1:51 am
    CrakrJak

    if a troll (you) calls another person a troll, does it count?

    I thinks not.
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    sharpydufc Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 1:57 am
    Billy Graham you are awful! that goes for you too crakrjak....


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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 4:22 am
    "Being an atheist is not trolling"

    Said the man with the nickname that mocks religion.
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    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 4:51 am
    The bible isn`t good for anyone.

    You can only say it is if you haven`t read it or if you ignore all the really bad parts.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 5:09 am
    @AJ, Never doubt me.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 6:04 am
    I don`t have patience for religious nuts who pick and choose which parts of their magic book they want to follow. Ever notice that the ones they pick are usually the parts that don`t reduce the quality of their own lives?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 6:57 am
    If he`s going to be taking full page ads in WSJ about politics, maybe they should start paying taxes or STFU.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Have at it Christian bashers.... "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me." Matthew 5:11.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Cool quote @papjon0s. From the same chapter that brought brilliant verses such as:
    "But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
    Matthew 5:32

    So any non-sexually deviant divorced woman who remarries is an adulturer? Seems legit.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:40 am
    And while we`re at it, maybe Billy should read Matthew 6:1.
  73. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:43 am
    HG: You really think I`m a troll?

    Yes, I do. You`ve been antagonistic towards Christians from the beginning. Atheists are a small minority in the real world, no matter how many frequent IAB. Just because you feel popular here doesn`t make it right that you hide behind an insulting monicker and attack us.

    Billy Graham has done more to better this world in one year, than you`re ever likely to do in your lifetime.

    Your a hater and haters get nowhere in life.
    "Haters going to hate"
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:49 am
    "Haters going to hate"


    Thus the whitest thing ever posted on IAB was posted.
  75. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:50 am
    patchgrabber: Once again you`re out of your element. None of that says that Christians must remain silent on any issue.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:51 am
    zombunny: You must be new, because that phrase has been oft repeated by Fancy himself in many posts.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:53 am
    What is your "element" CJ? Fairy tales?
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:54 am
    I haven`t noticed it. Still hilarious though.
  79. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:56 am
    madest: Your element is under your bridge, please stay there.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:01 am
    @CJ: I wasn`t comparing this ad to Matthew 6:1, rather, his whole career as an evangelist, showing his sermons on radio, tv, etc. Just another cafeteria christian.
  81. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:06 am
    patchgrabber: Christ preached on mountains and hills to thousands of people at a time. You`re seriously wrong about Matthew 6.

    Matthew 28: 19-20 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
  82. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:11 am
    @CJ: So if I`m wrong about it, how about you enlighten me as to what was meant by it then? Because your most recent quote doesn`t say to do it publicly en masse.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:19 am
    CrakrJak

    "You`ve been antagonistic towards Christians from the beginning"

    Once again, NOT Christians. Religion.

    "Atheists are a small minority in the real world"

    Yes. But getting larger every day. Thank God. You think atheism is bad? Move to the middle east, very few atheists there. In fact many countries are ruled by holy men or by the rules of holy texts. It works out great.

    "insulting monicker"

    Insulting to who? It is in reference to my icon, Zeus. You don`t own the word god, despite what Christians like to think. There are thousands of gods.

    "Billy Graham has done more to better this world in one year, than you`re ever likely to do in your lifetime."

    Perhaps. He does a lot of bad though that balances it out. I don`t spread hate, bigotry, and exclusion at all. But I`d put a whole lot of money on the fact that I do more to help people than you do.

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:23 am
    CrakrJak

    "Your a hater"

    The only think I hate is bigotry. THAT is what I attack, not christians, but the bigotry they perpetuate. I think religion is stupid, and belief in it ignorant, but I COMPLETELY support your rights to have it. If someone ever tried to make you a second class citizen for being religious because of their beliefs I would fight against them just like I do when christians try to make gays second class citizens.

    My message has always been that everyone should be treated with the same rights. How is that HATING? Your message is that some people should be treated differently. THAT is hate.
  85. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:24 am
    CrakrJak

    You know what I find offensive? YOUR profile pic. You think the dude would be a Republican? The dude would NEVER vote Republican.
  86. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:26 am
    @HG: Ha, yeah, wanting a replacement rug definitely sounds like entitlement to me. XD
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:27 am
    HolyGod, I wish I could hug you through the internet.
  88. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:49 am
    HG: Yes. But getting larger every day. Thank God.

    Really?

    The only think I hate is bigotry.

    Then `think` again, because you are a bigot yourself.
  89. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:56 am
    HG: The `Dude` wouldn`t even go vote at all.

    I`ve never said that I was the `Dude`, people say I look like Jeff. That`s a far stretch from actually being Jeff. The only things I share with the `Dude` is his hair and his laid back attitude.

    You on the other hand are not a God, even though you are full of yourself.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 9:58 am
    Billy Graham is a snake oil salesman. The world will be a better place when he dies.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:04 am
    papajon0s1, have people here been bashing Christians, or bashing Mullah Billy Graham for taking out a full page ad in a major newspaper, using tax-free money, by the way, to willfully and knowingly misrepresent the Bible (or, at the very least, interpret it in a way that is without any definitive justification) regarding the idea of "marriage", thereby discriminating directly against millions of taxpaying citizens of this country who`ve never done a thing to him or to other Christians. Is it NOT Christian bashing to call out hypocrisy, bigotry and hate.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 19, 2012 at 10:09 am
    I wonder if there are an abnormally larger number of atheists here, or if, what would make a lot more sense, the Internet allows people more opportunity to speak their actual mind without fear of direct and very real repercussions from those who seek to impose their personal views on ALL of society. We`re growing in numbers without even making an effort to do so because the real world, when actually engaged in and learned about, examined and tested is more amazing than even the most supernatural of tales from the minds of Bronze Age Fear Merchants.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Information and it`s ease of access is the beginning of the end for religion.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:20 am
    CrakrJak

    "Really?"

    Yes. Really. tinyurl.com/bvdatfs

    "because you are a bigot yourself"

    How so? About religion? I`ve studied religion. I`ve prayed. I spent almost a year going to church and bible study every week. I was a youth group leader. I gave religion a chance before I made up my mind, and my mind is still open to change.

    "You on the other hand are not a God"

    I`m as much a god as you are a cracker jack, or 5cats is a cat.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Smagboy1

    "I wonder if there are an abnormally larger number of atheists here, or if, what would make a lot more sense, the Internet allows people more opportunity to speak their actual mind"

    Well, I think there are a lot more atheists. I think the internet is the free spread of knowledge and when knowledge spreads religion reseeds. People may be scared to admit they are atheists to others, and I absolutely agree with that, but I think they are perfectly comfortable saying they are atheists in anonymous polls.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Speaking of conservative hypocrisy:

    "Out spoken defender of family values and hardcore "pro-life" Tennessee Congressman Scott DesJarlais was taped encouraging one of his four mistresses to abort his unborn child."

    tinyurl.com/8ejnmfg
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:30 am
    Keep in mind that there are entire countries in which a person can literally be killed for being an atheist, so of course there are probably more atheists than those who are willing to admit it.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:41 am
    madest, that link deserves a top post. And I`d love to hear some of the conservative members respond to that. I recall the same thing happening to a pizza guy down in FL for hugging the president. Oh well.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 10:57 am
    They are shameful people who lack empathy and you can see it here.
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    cartright Male 30-39
    58 posts
    October 19, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    Do you think pointing out an atheists faults make him any less right? I don`t think pointing out hypocritical christians make them wrong... All this discussion seems like you just need someone to agree with you so you feel better about being an atheist.
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    cartright Male 30-39
    58 posts
    October 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    Also, its funny how quickly you will reference an article that points out hypocrisy without ever questioning the authenticity of the article which was obviously written to garner political and financial support. Two things that clearly never foster corruption. The Bible talks more about these evils than you do, Sometimes it`s ok to blame the player not the rules or the game!
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    October 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    Keep up the good work, HG and Smag! I just love seeing Crakr get his ass handed to him! lol.
    Reason and logic will eventually win out over bronze age fairy tales. What the hell makes them think that their particular cult is the only one that has it right, out of the 1000`s of others?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    cartright

    Ummmm. Who are you addressing? It seems aimed at me.

    "you just need someone to agree with you so you feel better about being an atheist."

    This post has nothing to do with being an atheist. If I was Hindu, Christian, or a Scientologist I would STILL rail against people using their personal religious views to push an agenda of bigotry and exclusion.

    "Also, its funny how quickly you will reference an article that points out hypocrisy without ever questioning the authenticity of the article "

    The article is accurate. The story is all over the place, not just one spot.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    madest: Conservatives still give more money and time to charity than liberals do.

    Romney gives more to charity than Obama and Biden combined.

    But don`t let those facts get in the way of you being a liberal troll.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    CrakrJak

    "Conservatives still give more money and time to charity than liberals do"

    Only if you count churches and ballets and opera houses. If you just look at money that helps the sick and the poor that isn`t true. Romney gave almost all his "charity" to the Mormon church so they could fight gay marriage in california, build giant opulent churches, and send people around the world to knock on people`s doors.

    Do you REALLY consider that charity?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    CrakrJak

    "Conservatives still give more money and time to charity than liberals do"

    Only if you count churches and ballets and opera houses. If you just look at money that helps the sick and the poor that isn`t true. Romney gave almost all his "charity" to the Mormon church so they could fight gay marriage in california, build giant opulent churches, and send people around the world to knock on people`s doors.

    Do you REALLY consider that charity?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    HG: Churches run most of our countries food banks and run most of the free clinics as well. Your portrayal is off the mark. I`ve been homeless and had to rely on food banks and a free medical clinic. This is another time where my experience trumps your lame portrayal.

    But if you want data, here it is.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm
    CrakrJak

    "Churches run most of our countries food banks and run most of the free clinics as well. Your portrayal is off the mark. I`ve been homeless and had to rely on food banks and a free medical clinic. This is another time where my experience trumps your lame portrayal."

    You misunderstand. Churches do a lot of good. However only a portion of what they get goes to actually helping people. The rest goes to building churches, paying church staff, overhead, the pope`s awesome hats, etc. Think of how many more people could be helped if people gave that money directly to the food banks and free clinics.

    Look at what the mormon church does with its money, running ad campaigns, building giant palaces, and sending people around the world to knock on doors.

    Let`s say Jesus did come back. Do you think he would approve of the opulent Mormon temple in Salt Lake City? Of course not.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    Romney gives more to charity than Obama and Biden combined.
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    Charity is not Mitt`s forte. Sending brainwashed kids door to door selling the make believe life of latter day saints is hardly charity. It`s annoying. The money Mitt earns is tax payer money. While he`s out single-handedly destroying Americas manufacturing sector and sending the jobs overseas we the taxpayer are left paying for his devastation. From depressed towns, unemployed workers, bankruptcies and even suicides Mitt is a man who has no shame. He smiles takes his millions and never looks back. He is the devil incarnate and snake oil salesman Billy Graham just made a deal with him. They`re both turds and if they represent you my point has been made.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
    5436 posts
    October 19, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    "The rest goes to building churches, paying church staff, overhead, the pope`s awesome hats, etc."

    I`d like to see research showing this. I think you are lying, or just making things up because you want them to be true.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6749 posts
    October 19, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    elkingo

    "I`d like to see research showing this. I think you are lying, or just making things up because you want them to be true."

    Research on what? It is common sense. How do you think churches pay for the buildings? How do you think they pay their electric bills? How do you think they pay their pastors. How do you think the vatican got built with its giant murals, gold gilded pillars, and marble floors? Donations. Tithing.

    If Jesus were real and came back he would be ashamed at how badly people missed his message.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 20, 2012 at 12:08 am
    HG: I believe you missed Jesus` message completely. So you aren`t qualified to judge the good that churches do.

    All you did was go through the motions of being a Christian, you didn`t take that leap of faith.

    Even though I`m poor, I`d still give the shirt off my back if someone needed it.

    Billy Graham has given more to others than I can ever hope to, I believe he deserves some respect.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 20, 2012 at 4:33 am
    Even though I`m poor, I`d still give the shirt off my back if someone needed it. ---------
    Only with conditions or strings. Like the soup kitchen that dissed Paul Ryan or the pizza guy who bear hugged Obama, you`d be the first to cut them off. It`s exactly why we need a safety net so that the needy don`t pay the price of christian conservative nonsense. This Billy Graham is a tyrant. He uses his pulpit to tell his flock who`s acceptable and who`s not. It almost makes me wish there would be a God so Billy boy could burn for all eternity.

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