American Prison Facts By Stephen Fry

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago Misc

This makes me angry and now I want to punch someone. I guess I am going to jail.
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Male 676
So are people upset that we have so many people punished for their crimes, or that we make them work and be what they wouldn`t be on the outside; productive? It is sad that we have so many criminals here, but most of them get off too easy.
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Male 335
"Why is the penal system in the usa far bigger and more repressing then penal systems in the most repressing countries in the world?"

That`s an easy one - $$$.
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Male 334
sigh, the end of my post is gone.. But i ended with a question.

Why is the penal system in the usa far bigger and more repressing then penal systems in the most repressing countries in the world?
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Male 334
fraud sentence
ok you can get up to a few years of prison for embezaling, oh, lets say, someone`s pension and its gone, nothing will help that poor pensioned person..

Orpetty theft. now, i wont say that petty theft is ok, cause it simply isnt.. it should be stopped. But seriously, equal punishment? if you get caught with petty theft 3 times its off to the dog house with you never to return?

but if i do fraud well, i probably never do it 3 times.. funny enough though, i could effect a lot more victims as a fraudulent person then as a petty criminal, but the petty criminal gets, at times, stricter punishment.. somehow.. its weird, isnt it?
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Male 162
They try to make it sound silly that Kevin Webber was given 25 years for stealing four cookies.. Not exactly true. He broke into a restaurant, through the ceiling to try to steal the safe. He set off the burglar alarm and he grabbed the cookies before running out.
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Male 1,243
Fantastic facts from the greatest country on earth, remember USA, god is on your side!
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Male 29
You know what the real crime is here I-Am Bored comrades. That all of you are to busy commentating on a matter that none of you experience. I live in Louisiana we have the worst ratio of people sitting in prison. Prison is a BIG Business,where I live the business is SO BIG that if you goto to jail for a simple battery they drug test you. If you fail the test or refuse in JAIL you now have on top of your simple battery a court mandate that allows the state to drug test you 3 times in three months if you fail one they put you on drug court for 2 yrs. Costing you thousands of dollars,hardship,loss of wages and so forth. SO STFU I-am-bored, comment on how to fix the problems instead of smart ass comments attacking each other.
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Female 2,764
"The majority of you seem to think that "drugs" just means weed."

Not me. I literally mean JUST Marijuana. In my opinion, weed is the same as alcohol. No drinking and smoking. No operating heavy machinery and smoking. etc. etc. etc.

All other drugs, you know, those who make you lose your mind and go face eating crazy, should be illegal.

But I truly truly believe those numbers in the video would go way down just legalizing pot.

And someone else said sell it and tax it like alcohol, bingo. More money to the state/government.
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Male 661
"...Did you watch Robocop and think that it was a documentary?..."

Brilliant
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Male 5,811
[quote]Illegalise the MISUSE and ABUSE of drugs,[/quote]
Wrong. Treat it as a health problem. To use your own example, when someone misuses or abuses alcohol, assuming they didn`t commit some other crime while on it, there are plenty of addiction services for them; they should have the same for other drugs without fear of imprisonment.
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Male 5,811
@whapitoot: It`s nice that you didn`t even manage to glean the key point in HG`s post, which was that all those things you listed are due to the substances being illegal. If more places followed the Dutch model of harm reduction, where you treat drug addiction as a health issue and NOT as a crime, then you`d see a lot less of those violent crimes you listed. Locking people up isn`t the answer, to borrow a little from Barry: The 1920s called, they want their drug policy back.
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Male 5,413
I saw this posted a few months ago and I haven`t been on since. I comeback and this is posted again. Laaaaame
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Male 2,850
@whapitoot

"When a drug-pusher is selling crack that`s been cut with washing powder to 8yr olds outside the school gates"

Did you watch Robocop and think that it was a documentary?
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Male 2,850
@whapitoot

Drug crimes are victimless in the sense that it is possible to take drugs WITHOUT stealing or mugging to support the habit.

In the same way that it`s possible to have a beer in the pub WITHOUT glassing someone in the face or attempting to drive home completely sloshed.

Many people take offence to the suggestion that our toys must be taken away from us because a minority of people can`t play with them properly.

To ban a drug because some people misuse it is akin to banning all telephones because some people make prank calls.

Illegalise the MISUSE and ABUSE of drugs, but not any sensible, harmless USE of a drug.
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Male 5,874
davymid, I wouldn`t mind David Attenborough as a grandad, but would be a little nervous about sitting on Steven Fry`s lap.
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Male 13,624
Glad we haven`t got that system here, we would be bankrupt
Our prisoners have T.V`s x boxes, PlayStation`s,etc...
committing a crime here is usually making for a better life
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Male 13,624
Stephen Fry is a British legend, read his auto bios, and for me he is up there
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Male 13,624
davymid
with your there
and I want Prof Brian cox to be my brother!!
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Male 81
When drugs destroy the mind of someone where they would happily mug someone just to get their next hit, I don`t give a feck whether or not its classed as a violent crime, its a drug crime.

The majority of you seem to think that "drugs" just means weed. Of that I am truly sad. When you`re talking about Meth or Heroin, the same arguments don`t really hold up.

And I`m not sucking progoganda like a wh0re as you say, Orchideous. I have my own opinions based on having a reformed junkie as a close relative. Who, by the way, is proof that at can be done without methadone.

I`m not saying that the current UK drug policy is working, I never said that. I simply took umbridge at the monumentally stupid comment that drug crimes are victimless (and there was no distinction of what kind of drug crime, so I don`t think I overreacted).

Holy god- a TV isn`t chemically addictive you inbred knobjockey.
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Male 15,832
F*** `em! Feed `em fish heads.
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Male 787
I strongly dislike the way America does things.
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Male 12,138
vv Sutra, I`ll take that offer on. Mind you, I never had a sister, only two brothers. So I can`t promise anything.
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Female 2,549
@dAvymid I wanna be your sister :-)

No boob grabing.
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Female 2,549
Now all of you who spew venom everytime there is a vid showing Black people doing something questionable; remember this.
If a perticular group of people are treated as badly as black people are you will see it reflected in social behavior. There is pattern.
When a black person makes it good in the world it is way harder to archive then if you are White & disadvantaged.

We are seeing a start of generation who don`t see each other in colour. But miles to go before we sleep.
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Male 7,924
whapitoot

You are my new favorite idiot of the day.

Saying someone mugging you for money to buy drugs means having drugs should be punished is no different than saying if someone mugs you for money to buy a TV than having a tv should be punished.

BTW, people only rob people for drug money and drug cartels only exist because drugs are illegal and therefore expensive. You think many people get mugged for cigarette money?

You are a moron. Level 9. Go sit in the corner and think about what you`ve done.
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Male 307
AJ - generally, you and I don`t see eye to eye but on the subject of legalizing Mary Jane, we do agree. Although I don`t partake of it myself, I don`t see evidence that it is the evil "demon-weed" that the government makes it out to be.

However - I do have to say in response to one of your posts that it is juvenile and a bit dangerous to believe that if we tax and regulate, "drug dealers will go out of business." What, do you expect them just to throw up their hands and say, "Oh, gee, I guess I have to give up a massive income now?"

No - they will just move to more dangerous drugs to keep the market happy and the cash flowing. This was proved repeatedly with items on the black market as they became available publicly. We may end the marijuana black market, but may be inviting something much more dangerous into the country.
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Male 12,138
Totally with you AJ. I want Stephen Fry to be my dad and David Attenborough to be my grandad.
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Male 13
not totally correct on the "slave work in jail" topic, inmates in the US who do work are actually paid in a credit system where they can buy things like cigarettes and magazines.
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Male 3,445
On The Daily Show last night, DL Hughley was talking about how he interviewed someone from a private prison. The guy basically told him that they choose prisoners that have particular sentences based on how much money they`ll get out of it, eg. someone who has a particularly long sentence will get them more profits.

So for his TV show, they interviewed some gang bangers they knew would end up in prison and bought them stock in the private prison companies.
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Male 10,339
Stephen Fry is epic. Anyone who thinks otherwise has no taste.

He is a national treasure (in England lol)
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Male 5,874
Kitteh9lives: Well, I believe you have some sort of election-thingy coming up soon in the US of A. Does one of the prospective candidates have a policy to deal with this issue? I suspect that you are stuck with the system that has evolved into the daftness that it is: Injustice on a large scale takes a great deal of time to unravel and put to rights. Best of luck with your choice of candidate!
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Female 8,044
Nickel2, personally I love Stephen Fry, and my comments were not directed towards him at all. I am upset at the U.S. having such a high percentage of people in the privatized prison system and the slave labor aspect they spoke of in the video. Hope that helps.
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Male 5,874
Kitteh9lives. This seems to have struck a raw nerve somewhere! We all know that Steven Fry is a bit of an irritating twat sometimes, but his fact are well researched, and rarely wrong. Got a relly in trouble? go on, you can tell us!
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Male 361
anything but a massive failure.





(cheers for my 1000 characters IAB :| )
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Male 361
What`s your plan whapitoot? Carry on arresting people in possession of drugs whether they`ve committed a violent crime or not?

That`s what is happening, and it`s not working, which is why you fear for your family and young children, and you blame it solely on drugs due to the propaganda you suck up like a wh0re.

If drugs weren`t illegal, it wouldn`t be drug lords and dodgy dealers taking in the profit, rather the drugs could be taxed and safely distributed. Which means you could cross off 3 and 4 of your list of CURRENT problems we face.

As for 1 and 2, well, people will always be committing violent crimes in order to get things they need. Whether they get it through their dealer or the local crack government, it doesn`t matter. I`m sure, however, that with all the extra tax money greater safety could be provided for you and your family.

I`m not saying drugs should be legal, however you`re massively ignorant if you think the current drugs policy is a
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Female 267
I so rarely agree with auburnjunky, but on this matter I do. Let the people jailed for possession go free (saving a ton of money in prison costs), make weed legal for people over 18 to buy and sell it in liquor stores. Tax it and use that money to pay down our national debt or fund social assistance programs with it. Prohibition didn`t work before (and in fact, led to an increase in organized crime) and it isn`t working now.
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Male 282
We`re number one! We`re number one! Whoo Hooo!
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Male 2,371
Legalize the weed and anybody who wants it can just grow all they can possibly need in a closet or basement. Just like brewing your own beer, only a LOT easier.

The poor saps in for simple possession or dealing a few grams here and there aren`t the threat to society they`re made out to be.

The anti weed crowd would be surprised how many people they know and respect toke up.
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Male 10,339
Also, 90% of prisoners that are incarcerated for drug offenses, are in there for possession, or sales, which are, indeed, victimless crimes.

Fine them, and carry on.

Or legalize it. You put the seller out of business, and you eliminate the need to commit crime.
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Male 10,339
@Whapitoot:

Posession is a victimless crime, and holds some of the longest sentences.

Mugging is a violent crime, not a drug crime.
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Male 4,893

whapitoot - Don`t be stupid. A large portion of inmates are there for simple possession. If someone breaks into your house for drugs, then they are arrested for burglary. If they mug you, they are arrested for mugging.
When someone says it`s a victimless crime, they usually refer to possession.
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Female 1,515
I think what auburnjunky meant was things like "I go out and buy some (insert drug here) with my own money and get caught and thrown in prison having harmed no one but myself" type situations. You escalated things quite quickly there...
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Male 81
@Auburnjunky; Drugs are a victimless crime?

Well I`m so glad to hear that there are no victims with drugs. I`ll try to remember that when a junkie mugs a member of my family for drug money.

Or when I`m dealing with a family whose house has been broken into by someone who wanted to hock things for drugs, I`ll remind them that because it was for drugs, they`re not a victim.

Or when a kidnapped child is sold as a prostitute to fund drug cartels; remember, no victims!

When a drug-pusher is selling crack that`s been cut with washing powder to 8yr olds outside the school gates; of course the kids aren`t victims! It`s their choice to buy the stuff!

Since you seem to be thick as poo, I feel I need to point out that I`m being sarcastic... Toolbox...
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Male 37,902

Land of the free?
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Male 10,339
Oh well drat this?

Slavery?

Firwst of all, they get paid 25 cents an hour. Secondly, THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

That being said, they should let the ones who committed victimless crimes go (drugs for example), and just fine them.
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Male 198
Saw this the other day. I`ve been watching all the QI episodes back-to-back.

Jimmy Carr`s remark about them having one-arm & switchblades refers to a fact revealed earlier on the show that the only people that can fly while having switchblades on their person are one-armed/handed people.
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Male 884
The rest of us just get treated like prisoners when we go to the airport.
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Female 2,525
Well that`s embarrassing.
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Male 2,545
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Male 3,578
@HalfPintRoo
how naive
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Male 5,811
[quote]legalize Marijuana and those numbers would drop drastically![/quote]
Definitely would. From some criminology classes I took as an undergrad I had learned that most people are in jail because of parole violation, but that most routinely enter the prison system for the first time for non-violent drug offences. These data are for Canada, but I doubt it`s much different south of the border.
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Male 7,924
What I find amazing is that suspected terrorists in Abu Ghraib have some embarrassing photos taken of them and everyone in America was absolutely up in arms about torture.

However, some kid in prison for non-violent drug possession can be brutalized and raped routinely and nobody gives a s.hit.
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Male 5,314
I don`t know, seems kinda fishy.
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Female 2,764
legalize Marijuana and those numbers would drop drastically!
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Female 8,044
Link: American Prison Facts By Stephen Fry [Rate Link] - This makes me angry and now I want to punch someone. I guess I am going to jail.
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