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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    September 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    Link: What Romney Thinks Of Obama Voters - During a private fundraiser Mitt Romney told a group of contributors what he thinks of the voters who support Obama.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 6:38 pm
    That 47% will vote for Obama no matter what because they get government money? Thank you captain obvious.

    What`s the big deal? Pretty obvious $hit that people are getting their panties in a twist over. I would point to false outrage for this. It follows simple logic that if somebody receives free money, and somebody else wants to take that free money away (because it doesn`t exist), then the first person wouldn`t support the guy taking the money away. Come on, duh.

    Politicians love to build coalitions of voters by giving free $hit to different groups. It`s a really cowardly way to get support. Just throw money at a problem, yeah that`ll make everything go away. It`s clearly worked so far. 15+ trillion fighting poverty since 1970 and we have the same poverty rate.

    Welcome, decline of the Western World. Take your coat off, stay a while.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    Hey CJ, You`re dependent on the government and you support Romney. Proof your leader is retarded, again.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    Accurate!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 6:53 pm
    Mitt Romney and the Republican leaders have already lost the vote of african-Americans, women, latinos, gays, muslims and a multitude of other minorities. After the Democratic Convention Obama won over a large portion of the independents (with assistance from Clinton). This video just killed the rest of independent vote for Mitt. Crakrjak, 5Cats and such you better brace yourselves for a loss and start preparing your stolen votes excuses.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    A leader that doesn`t know when to keep his mouth shut...yup sure looks like the next pres. to me. lolz
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    "I`ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives," he added. "What I have to do is convince the 5% to 10% in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful."

    That is the controversy - not the numbers. He basically said 47% of the country is not thoughtful and do not take personal responsibility for themselves. Plus he is so far removed from normal society that he thinks these people are only liberal when in fact there are people from all ideologies in this group. His point was dishonest anyway because a good portion of 47% are children.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    Meh, I`d like to find one person that ISN`T dependent on the government for something.

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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    Wait..Didn`t Mitt say that he`s proud to pay as little taxes as possible? That means those that pay none are uber-patriots!
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    wchrisf Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    @markust123
    "That is the controversy - not the numbers. His point was dishonest anyway because a good portion of 47% are children."

    It is but shouldnt be, because his comment isnt dishonest. It comes from IRS data which can be found with just a quick Google search. The 47% number isnt Americans, it is taxpayers. The bottom 47% of returns filed dont pay any income taxes. And that also doesnt account for those who get refunds anyway through the numerous refundable tax credits.
    Who pays what
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Seems like an accurate analysis to me.
    People vote by "who will make my life better."
    And Obama promises entitlements and hand outs.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    And then, there`s those corporations that don`t pay taxes. Remember...."corporations are people, my friend"

    What a fuuuccckkkkkiiing douchebag corksucking conservative. He`s the best thing to happen to us Libs!
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    @jtrebowski: Some corporations reinvest their profits into R&D or have losses, so they don`t pay taxes. That`s how it works. And R&D stimulates the economy more than a handout. And I don`t think you understand the "corporation are people" argument, that was a freedom of speech issue really.

    And immature name calling just makes you lose all credibility. (you too madest)
    Spend less time name-calling and more time forming compelling arguments.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Corporate welfare is what? Oh, groups of profit-grubbing rich bastards dependent on government handouts, who, instead of producing jobs with the last three years of record breaking profits (in the hundreds of billions of dollars--want citations?), instead have hoarded the money and spent it on themselves, their families and horses to enter into the Olympics. "...take personal responsibility and care for their lives..." Indeed. That`s great, Mitt. Thank you for wanting to be President for the WHOLE country. :-(
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Anyone who thinks there are lots of people who don`t share much of the tax burden should read THIS
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    Wchrisf, You removed my point that he basically said 47% of the country is not thoughtful and do not take personal responsibility for themselves. That is the controversy not the numbers. Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding about the numbers though.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    I think Mitt and the Republicans should just come out and say it: They`d like to line up a string of bulldozers on either coast and have them plow inward toward Independence, Missouri, scraping up a huge pile of the 47% of the citizenry who pay no taxes, who have no initiative, and who just DRAG THIS COUNTRY DOWN. After confining that smelly 47% within a fenced enclosure for several months with no food, they`ll bury the corpses in a mass grave. Then, once that nasty bit of business is taken care of, they can start putting America BACK ON THE PATH TO GREATNESS: with gated communities of luxurious mansions, staffed by Mexican gardeners and Mexican maids. No taxes for individuals, no taxes for corporations, and free Swiss bank accounts for everyone. Private schools, private roads, private security forces, private boutique healthcare, private everything.

    Woo-hoo! I can hardly wait to live in the All-New Banana Republic!
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Andrew115 appears unaware that the states with the largest percentages of people paying no income tax are ALL IN THE SOUTHERN RED STATES - he just insulted his entire base! Yet they vote consistently for the republican. It`s true

    Andrew - I make six figures and pay a higher tax rate than Romney, and you know why I vote Democratic? Because the economy does better under democratic presidents.

    Do you know why a large percentage of people who pay no income tax vote republican? Social issues.

    This comment is even more stupid than it first appears when you realize the Republican Base is poor rural whites and the ultra-rich! Poor whites have been voting Republican for so long - well, here is what your politicians Really think of you. You`re stupid and lazy (but vote for me)!
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    @markust123 What do YOU think is the percentage of the country that is thoughtful and takes personal responsibility for themselves?
    Which means they are both open-mined to political ideas and would take a job over an unemployment check.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Good God, people. What does your Book of Mormon tell you? Just listen to that. It`s so simple of an answer that I think Mitt probably hob-knobs with a few publishers that he could explain it to you.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    "What do YOU think is the percentage of the country that is thoughtful and takes personal responsibility for themselves?"

    I`m not sure but it is a hell of a lot larger than 53%.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    Amen, goaliejerry.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Goallejerry - I`m not Republican.

    I don`t really care about defending Republicans. George Bush FULLY embraced the entitlement state. So does Obama. That`s it. But you`re fact about only red states receiving entitlements is dumb.

    Maine, Oregon, Michigan, New Mexico - they`re not part of the South.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/10-states-with-the-greatest-food-stamps_n_860233.html#s278470&title=10_South_Carolina


    Also here, from the city I live in:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-04-26-new-york-government-aid.htm

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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Dingdingdong - your argument is logically incoherent. Poor southern whites vote Republican all the time, but would benefit more from Democratic policies. So how are they suddenly Obama voters???

    The elderly also vote Republican, but many are among that 47 percent statistic.

    You are all missing the best line. It`s not just that he says 47 percent of people vote for Obama because they are poor, lazy, and stupid, HE Said "My job is not to worry about those people." now I know what he meant - but the Republican nominee just said out loud that poor people are stupid and lazy and he doesn`t care about them at all.

    Amazing.

    Oh, and Romney just held a 10 pm press conference to address this. I said it months ago - this election won`t be close. I can`t believe Republicans chose their nominee so poorly. 8 percent unemployment, and you are going to get BLOWN OUT.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:23 pm
    And I said nothing about tax rates? Tax reform is a must. But keep in mind, there isn`t enough "rich people`s" money out there to balance the budget, even if you tax them at 100%.

    As for the economy performing better under Democrats - Bill Clinton is the only Democrat in recent memory besides Obama. Quite a small and wholly unscientific sampling size. Let`s free our minds and admit that there are good Democrats and bad ones, as there are good Republicans and bad ones. Bill Clinton was good, although he definitely had help with the invention of the internet creating, quite frankly, a frackton of jobs. Still, I won`t take anything from him. His administration worked well with the opposition congress - in the same way the Reagan administration worked well with his opposition congress. Good economies both.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    Andrew - that`s not an apples to apples comparison. The issue is non federal tax payers.

    My last comment - OMG, what a gift. Picture the ads. I understand the nuance, but I also understand all that matters is independents. Go find the other clips of this talk - he answers a donors question about why he`s not attacking Obama as corrupt.

    His answer? Focus groups show independents voted for Obama in 2008 and still like him. Attacking Obama as corrupt would insult those people - instead, Romney has to convince them Obama is a nice guy who sucks at his job.

    BUT THIS VIDEO LITERALLY INSULTS EVERYONE WHO EVER VOTED OBAMA AS STUPID, POOR, AND LAZY! And you know who gave Obama the 2008 election? INDEPENDENTS. Yeah, they`ll vote for Romney now......
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    Hey madest, Once again, I paid into the system, I worked until becoming disabled. Those that have been on entitlements since birth have a much different attitude than those people like me.

    Mitt`s estimate of 47% is a bit high, I believe the actual number is around 35%, but he is correct that the cradle to grave welfare recipients will always vote democrat because the democrats keep promising more and more to them.

    Madest, you voting for Obama a second time, will be proof of your own retardedness.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    And finally goallejerry, your last statement is just blatantly partisan. If that was their actual base, they would never get elected. 45% of Hispanics voted for old "racist" George Bush. In Florida, it was a majority. Between "poor" white people and the 1%, they wouldn`t have enough votes. Besides, the 1% doesn`t even vote specifically for one party anyways, look at some exit polls. Seriously, you need to research.

    Anyways, here is an interesting graph.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fig_57_-_men_4-yr_college_degrees.JPG


    But really, poor whites are not automatically Republican. Look at West Virginia, basically tied for the poorest state. That`s actually a blue state, the Democrats have a very strong presence among the blue-collar workers there.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm
    So funny. Yes. Democrats are just the poor people who make no money and pay no taxes and want entitlement. Oh except for the part that traditionally democratic states are the ones that pay more money in taxes to the federal government than they take from the federal government while traditionally republican states are the ones that take in more money from the federal government than they pay in federal taxes.

    http://tinyurl.com/5wghh6

    Welcome to the bubble.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    Andrew - fair points, but when I say Democrats run better economies, I mean historically, like back since FDR.

    Fun fact - when Obama took office Dow was at 8000. Today, about 14000.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    I am a partisan, no doubt. But rural whites are reliably republican. Obamas strength in places like Virginia is as much a function of the urbanization of the populace as anything else. City dwellers vote Democrat, these are simple demographic facts.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Hehe, you truly couldn`t have come up with a worst clip of a presidential candidate short of buying crack, banginga hooker, or dropping an "N" bomb. Unreal - even better because this is what he REALLY thinks behind closed doors with millionaires.

    Truly, watch all the clips - its very revealing, he`s calculating cold, focus group driven, no core principles. No empathy, truly thinks if you`re poor you deserve it (many republicans think this - they just never say it out loud), Just listen to him. Oh man.....
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    Nail in the coffin. Obama till 2016, right there. Mark my words.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    I think Mitt talks about the bulldozers in the clips to be released tomorrow. =^.^=
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Boy he is sweating bullets throughout the explanation he just released.
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    flying_ltj Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    Half of all statistics are completely made up... 85% of all people know that.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    The way he says `entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing` is chilling.... Call me an idiot, but I believe that everyone is entitled to those things. Everyone.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Below. MITT ROMNEY poses with one of his RepubliDozers. "Just two thousand of these machines can help us rid ourselves of that parasitic 47% of our society in no time," the candidate crowed.

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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:08 pm
    This makes me like Romney more but 47 percent of people are not mooching off of government and feel entitled. Many of that 47 percent feel that way. I do think about 47 percent will worship obama no matter what he does though.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    Hey squrlz4sale...
    is that picture of the bulldozer a reference to the grapes of wrath by Steinbeck?
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm
    Hey squrlz4sale...
    is that picture of the bulldozer a reference to the grapes of wrath by Steinbeck?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    @Tatripp: Actually, I was riffing off an earlier post of mine in this thread--but your *Grapes of Wrath* reference is good. I like it.

    I am, of course, indulging in satire here. But the target is the very real contempt that Romney seems to hold for practically 50% of America. In his mind, and certainly in Paul "Ayn Rand" Ryan`s mind, America consists of two groups: (1) elite achievers and (2) worthless freeloaders. That`s dangerously simplistic.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    Squrlz: That must be a government dozer because obviously Caterpillar "Didn`t build that".
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    "The way he says `entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing` is chilling.... Call me an idiot, but I believe that everyone is entitled to those things. Everyone."

    Idiot.
    Jesus, nearly half our population are leeches. I`m sorry but I work for those things.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    @DixxyRarr: You`re not an idiot. You have a modicum of compassion for your fellow citizens, something that`s exhibited in most civilized nations, by most civilized people. Kudos.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    Hey Squrlz, can you buy me a cheeseburger? Can I sleep on your couch? Indefinitely? I don`t feel good. Can you take me to the doctor? Will you pay the bill?
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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 9:59 pm
    DixxyRarr - The way he says `entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing` is chilling.... Call me an idiot, but I believe that everyone is entitled to those things. Everyone.

    Well, I won`t call you an idiot. But, on the same token as everyone being "entitled", you need to have a system that prevents anyone from working and having the fruits of their labors taken away to support other people. That is stealing.

    If the welfare system was voluntary, that would work. Let the people who want to donate give as much as they can to support those in need. Let those who want to keep their hard-earned gains. gains keep their wealth.

    No one should take out of the system if they have not put into the system.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    @Mykunter: My taxes (to say nothing of what I give in charity) already go toward providing food, shelter, and healthcare for the needy, and I don`t begrudge it.

    I have more of a problem with the percentage of my taxes that go toward our $711 billion military budget, which is larger than the military budgets of the next 14 countries on the list--combined.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:06 pm
    `I have more of a problem with the percentage of my taxes that go toward our $711 billion military budget, which is larger than the military budgets of the next 14 countries on the list--combined. `

    This.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    "No one should take out of the system if they have not put into the system."

    So severely retarded people are just screwed? There`s a bit of a hole in your point.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:14 pm
    I saw nothing wrong with anything he said.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    "He basically said 47% of the country is not thoughtful and do not take personal responsibility for themselves."

    AND?!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:17 pm
    ...Or battered women who were never allowed to work and have finally escaped from their abusive husbands. Or children who are living on the streets.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:39 pm
    It pisses me off as much as the next person that some people take advantage of the system but I`m not so heartless that I would want to get rid of the much needed help just because there are a few bad apples out there.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm
    "I`m not so heartless that I would want to get rid of the much needed help just because there are a few bad apples out there."

    Neither do any of us.

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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 17, 2012 at 11:09 pm
    I can`t find a single word in those videos with which I disagree.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 17, 2012 at 11:11 pm
    I`m not so heartless that I would want to get rid of the much needed help just because there are a few bad apples out there.
    I went back and listened to that again, and he never said anything like that. If you`re going to vote against him because of bad stuff you just make up about him, there`s not much point in trying to argue with you.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    I was responding to @PopCap you idiots. Also I am not voting against Mitt Romney I am voting for President Obama. But I can see how you would be in that mind set since you have a not-Obama candidate.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2012 at 11:24 pm
    "I am voting for President Obama"

    Why must you people advertize your psychosis?

    Yes, I said "you people".
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:05 am
    "Why must you people advertize your psychosis?"

    Says the man who sees a President that in no way resembles the actual man or his actions. His own mother wouldn`t recognize the man you have been brainwashed into seeing. News flash Obama has a 50% job approval down from 52% last week.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:07 am
    49.3

    Also, I haven`t been brainwashed into seeing it. How come when someone has a differing opinion than you libs, they are brainwashed?

    On the contrary. I actually pay really really close attention to Obama. This is why I have the opinion I do. The rest of you just dismiss him as the messiah, and are still asleep.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:07 am
    I can`t find a single word in these videos that I don`t disagree with. Where is he getting these figures? Roughly half of Americans who pay no Federal income tax do so because they simply don`t earn enough money. The other half doesn`t pay taxes because of special provisions in the tax code that benefit certain taxpayers, notably the elderly and working families with children. For example, the tax code excludes a portion of Social Security income and gives larger standard deductions and tax credits to the elderly. And many working families with children qualify for both the child credit and the earned income tax credit. Together, the elderly and working families with children account for 74 percent of all nontaxable households that aren`t excluded by income level alone.
    So who are the 49 percent of Americans who don`t pay income taxes? The vast majority are the lowest income households, the elderly and young working families with children.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:08 am
    Anyone who believes in completely eliminating SS programs should go join the SS.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:11 am
    Auburn I can`t even remember the last time I saw a `blue` bumper sticker if we`re gonna talk about advertizing psychosis. And I live in NY. I see cars littered with overtly obnoxious bumper stickers with little slogans and whatever that generalize complicated issues into an easy to chant phrase. But that`s how you like it broken down for you isn`t it?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:12 am
    Obama has a 50% job approval
    That, more than anything, is why we`re f***ing DOOMED!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:14 am
    "Auburn I can`t even remember the last time I saw a `blue` bumper sticker if we`re gonna talk about advertizing psychosis."

    I see them down here all the freaking time (Alabama). You live in a blue state. Of course you don`t see blue stickers.

    "Anyone who believes in completely eliminating SS programs should go join the SS."

    Well, I`m glad conservatives don`t want to get rid of it. That`d be awkward.

    On the other hand, Liberals will end up destroying it, while their heads are in the sand. IT IS GOING BANKRUPT!
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:14 am
    I wish we could post links in the comments on this site I just have so many things I wish Romney supporters would read.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:16 am
    Here`s an interesting FACT for you auburn. Did you know Texas is the ONLY red state NOT hemorrhaging money? Literally every other red state has negative GDP. Guess which two states have the single highest? New York and California. They are going bankrupt, but not due to people like myself.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:16 am
    "How come when someone has a differing opinion than you libs, they are brainwashed?"

    Says the guy using the talking point "The rest of you just dismiss him as the messiah, and are still asleep". That is just a lazy I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I junior high rebuttal. And my saying that is just my lazy automatic answer. See how retarded what people call politics these days is.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:16 am
    *they being the SS system funds not the states.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:16 am
    It sounds about right. However his polices and behaviors have shown him to be pushing for an authoritarian government.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:19 am
    "I wish we could post links in the comments on this site I just have so many things I wish Romney supporters would read."

    Just click on "Link" to the right of the comment box.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Bain capitol has long been known for it`s abuse of human rights in Asia. But since we`re talking about the man, the individual, and not the people who he agrees with (even though that would be a substantive argument to make) you can see he holds no qualms about the human rights violations that were occurring, and only made statements about how different they are from us.

    Oh and Romney has been connected to Salvadorean death squads. Google it IAB won`t let me post links.

    There`s also videos of Paul Ryan calling for tax breaks to rich and increase to lower income bracket. He also wants to replace medicare with a voucher system.

    Mitt Romney refusing to release his tax returns. Too bad they were leaked and you can see that he didn`t pay taxes for years.

    Mitt romney showing how culturally insensitive he is at the London games...

    There`s literally HUNDREDS of articles out there with just as many reasons Romney is an insane choice. CHARACTE
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:20 am
    "See how retarded what people call politics these days is."

    Agreed Markust. This is why I love you.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:20 am
    Feel free to fact check any and every single thing I said because it is all verifyably true, from a range of sources that IAB won`t let me post.

    But for some reason I feel as though you`ve already made your decision. You may feel you speak for all but as far as Obama is concerned, he`s done alright by me and mine. At least you can`t find literally hundreds of pages worth of reading about his shady dealings, along with the shady dealings of those around him. That doesn`t earn him my complete trust, but at least I know he`s not likely to be the antichrist like figure that Romney`s past is pointing him out to be.

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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:21 am
    I feel though, that despite all of these BLARING facts and figures, you will allow your own psyche to pull the wool over your eyes and continue to believe that America is as simple as Red VS Blue, and that if you, personally, waver on any issue, you can`t subscribe yourself to the rest of your ideals. That is the true hallmark of an American who is to ignorant to be allowed to vote. Speaking of being allowed to vote, you should also check out this article about how some states are passing certain laws to keep certain (read: black) people from voting.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:21 am
    And did everyone just FORGET the RNC and all the lies that came with it?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:22 am
    "He also wants to replace medicare with a voucher system."

    WRONG!

    He wants to supplement it with a voucher system. Medicare will stay the same, but he wants to add a voucher system, so richer Americans can opt out of Medicare, and choose their own doctors.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:22 am
    Huffington Post, Gawker, Fox news, US News, The New Yorker, The Nation, and NY Times are not valid news sources to you? Oh and wikileaks. Btw I had another post on the new page you may have neglected to see. (although Gawker is kind of tripe)

    I think that rather than taking the time to absorb the information in the links, you got halfway through my post, rather than half way through digesting the materiel, then, insecure, decided ignoring evidence (ignorance) would be the best path of action.

    If you want links about bad things Obama did, or good things he`s done I`d be glad to provide. The bottom line is Mitt Romney on the other hand has never done anything for anyone but himself and people like himself and I am not like him in any way, don`t agree with him in any way, and won`t support him in any way.

    You`d probably feel the same if you took the time.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:23 am
    And some of Obama`s plans won`t even go into effect for several years, it`s not like he has a crystal ball either, but at least he has plans. Maybe Romney would be better for the econemy (nearly through up in my mouth writing that one) But it`s been proven in micro and macro level that trickle down economics doesn`t benefit the common man, and that likely means you.

    There are people who live with such vast sums of money they can just put their equity into high interest savings accounts over seas and never have to work another day of their lives. That is American money, that is never going to be recirculated. That sort of action creates a bubble, and a drain on the American econemy as a whole.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:23 am
    "At least you can`t find literally hundreds of pages worth of reading about his shady dealings, along with the shady dealings of those around him."

    Yes I can. You will dismiss them as biased though, as I would yours.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:23 am
    I`m not saying "REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH MOTHERLAND RUSSIA" I`m saying, that, even adjusted for inflation with the surplus currency that it would result in, the use of those accounts towards something more productive (say roads, bridges, engineering, buildings, health, police, fire, military, welfare, student grants) would be better than giving LESS taxes to rich (something romney can be found quoted saying on video in my links) will just result in more money lying around, never to be used in swiss accounts.

    I am in no way saying Obama is perfect. The housing market did crash under him, but the bubble there was created by Bush policies. The market is beginning to stabilize thanks to his consorted efforts. And lest we all not forget the fast and furious scandal. That, and he has failed to live up to many of his goals, but because of the system of checks and balances, many things he wish would come across his desk simply don`t.

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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:24 am
    We can`t forget that republicans controlled both the house and senate during the Bush years, meaning that during that time frame they were given great opportunity to see their ambitions through. But did they? No.

    Keep in mind that during Obama`s presidency the House of Representatives has been majority republican and there are filibusters happening on capitol hill every day thanks to this. He tries to see his policies through, but he wasn`t given such a golden opportunity to complete control as Bush was so I can`t completely fault him.

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:24 am
    No I read everything, I just chose one point to respond to.

    That`s how one deals with diatribes.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:24 am
    Personally? I`d love to vote Republican, but not for Romney, but rather for Paul, but since people aren`t informed, and he doesn`t have enough money, I have to choose the lesser of two evils: Obama. The guy caught saddam after all. But sadly, only allowed for troop withdraw from Iraq. We can`t be expected to know the top-secret stuff that will come into the history books years down the road, so I trust in his sense of the need for the defense of the Pakistani people.

    Romney is in every sense of the words, cruel, and selfish. He can be seen on video ignoring people coming up to him (in pre-arranged circumstances even ) who press an issue that makes him uncomfortable, or completely passing over their questions.

    I used to know a boy who went to my church, he was mentally deficient and died from Leukemia at the age of ten. Today I dropped a rose on his grave. I used to help the parishioner out by babysitting him.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:25 am
    I remember a video of Romney ignoring a Leukemia patient who went into complete recovery after the use of medicinal marijuana, something that he intends to take away from state`s right`s with federal regulations. (Read: bigger government, something republicans SUPPOSEDLY don`t want)

    I know we both have our reasons for what we say, but the only thing you`ve shown me so far is that you don`t like Obama. I want reasons. I want figures. I want stories. I want rationalization.

    I always check anything before I say it in this type of discussion so I can assure you any fact checking you do will come up green, but feel free to do so anyway. My point in that is you can`t proove Romeny DIDN`T do those things and that Obama DIDN`T do those other things.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:25 am
    And to quote in this specific circumstance, "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." That is what you appear to be doing right this moment with your self-rationalizing world view. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." I don`t hear any plans coming from you, or even substantive reasons why Romney is a good pick, but rather only the bashing of Obama, probably from your bi-partisan programming. Lastly, "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing."

    When you begin to use reason, you begin to see what Romney would be capable of with that much power, and it doesn`t bode well for any of us.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:25 am
    "Keep in mind that during Obama`s presidency the House of Representatives has been majority republican"

    Nosir. This is wrong.

    The first two years both houses of Congress were Dem controlled. It`s only been a year and a half since Republicans controlled the House.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:26 am
    I don`t lean. I just subscribe to information and rationality.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:27 am
    I`m heading to bed. Have a good night AJ.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 12:27 am
    Okay. Like I said. Diatribe. Here I am responding to you, and you are ignoring.

    What are you trying to do?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:28 am
    You too Mark.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:28 am
    Withdrawn on that then auburn. Perhaps more pertinent though, The Republican Party kept control of both the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate until 2007.

    The only thing we saw during those years was the country go nose-dive.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:30 am
    The nosedive didn`t start until the middle of 2007, well after the Dems had both houses, and stopped working with Bush.

    All he could do was go along, which he did, like an idiot.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:30 am
    No, I`m reading what you say. I`m just not very impressed. Don`t take my word for anything I said, in fact I encourage you go out on the net and look poo up. The first thing you should do is find out what kind of person Romney really is and then come back to me.


    OH one more thing! He also started a program pretty much exactly like obamacare but nowadays refuses to take credit for it because he`s trying to appeal to partisan fools like yourself.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:31 am
    Well at least we can agree bush was an idiot. But do remember that you pointed out republicans had control during some obama years too. Not only are you backpedaling but your still looking for partisan excuses.

    There`s no reaching you I think I`m done here.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:33 am
    "partisan fools like yourself."

    Here comes the name calling. I win.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 12:34 am
    On a different note, who else hates the audio/video ads IAB has these days. My speakers almost just blew and woke the entire house lol.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 1:44 am
    I find the timing of the release of this video quite suspicious. This speech happened in May and MJ holds onto it until Obama f*cks up, on foreign policy this time, to try and distract from the debacle in Libya. The Obama administration was warned 3 days before the attack on Benghazi and they ignored it, according to Libyan officials.

    They act as if this was some super-secret meeting, yet I`ve heard democrats say the same thing on tv, and worse, that they have the election in hand for the same reasons Romney gave.

    This a non-shocking, non-event, that happened 4 months ago being used to cover and distract for Obama`s recent screw up.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 2:14 am
    Political stuff doesn`t even bother me anymore. As some pundits have speculated and I agree with: this is the week Romney lost the election. Game over. Nothing left to do but get on with the next four years.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 4:09 am
    Cracker, are you still going to vote for the 1%?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 4:37 am
    Oh looky. Turns out republicans receive a disproportionate amount of government spending. Isn`t that right CJ?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 4:40 am

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    Shelworth Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2012 at 5:05 am
    You notice nobody says he`s lying about anything. It may be sad, but it`s the truth.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 5:27 am
    I know. The spin is making me dizzy.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 5:29 am
    Also, how is this any different from this Obama moment back in 2008?

    Obama faced a similar moment in the 2008 campaign, when he told donors that many Americans who are angry about their struggles "cling to their guns or religion."
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    FuriousC Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 5:40 am
    This is the truth.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 5:57 am
    So it`s a surprise little Mittens is a pawn of his fat-cat masters?

    Yeah, not so much. He`s just an non-nice individual frat boy on a power grab.

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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 6:37 am
    I`ll tell you AJ, Republicans are dimwits who care about God and guns. They think Obama isn`t American, a sleeper cell terrorist who`s life has been a successful plot to make America a Muslim nation so there`s lots of stupidity on your side and the fact that you can`t see it is telling.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 6:40 am
    "They think Obama isn`t American, a sleeper cell terrorist who`s life has been a successful plot to make America a Muslim nation"

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Ow my drating side bitch!

    Don`t do that poo this early in the morning!
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 6:40 am
    Both corrupt, but by dirrerent parties. You would think there would be a candidate who was corrupted by America. Cares only for the people. The sad truth is that men like that are shot in the head. So this is what you get.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 6:45 am
    So as far as the vote is concerned Mitt has written off a large portion of the country. Welcome to reality everybody. This isn`t news to anybody with a brain. But yeah, take points away because he actually had the balls to say it out loud.

    And oh yes, nubblins?...you wanted to find somebody who isn`t dependent on government for something. That would be me and my entire family.

    Only a tiny percentage of society deserve government hand-outs.

    50 years of war on poverty trillions and trillions spent and the problem still exists. You`ve got to be out of you mind to think more of the same is the answer. We`ve got a huge chunk of people in the country that don`t understand the meaning of the word NO. Some can`t accept the word while others don`t have the balls to say it.



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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 6:52 am
    ..and DromEd points out his independence on tax payer implemented internet.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:07 am
    I love Madest`s little quips he chimes in with, often holding no meaning, or relevance.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:14 am
    And madest completely doesn`t get it once more. You really are the biggest dolt on this forum.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:20 am
    I repeat DromEd didn`t build this. And this dolt is in the majority. My and my fellow dolts will celebrate your failure on November 7th. Look for it numbnuts.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:49 am
    A situation occurs that causes a person some pain and hardship.

    Democrat - "There should be a law."

    Republican - "I think I will see what I can do to keep that from happening to me again."

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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:53 am
    Mitt Romney doesn`t understand one that both sides have passed laws allowing these increased tax breaks. The Bush tax cuts alone increased them significantly. Two that if you include payroll taxes the number drops to 18%. Three that this is the week he lost the election by irresponsibly insulting half of the nation by stating that these people don`t take personal responsibility and care for their lives. That these people are victims who are dependent on the government. The majority of the people that make up this 47% are honest law abiding Republicans and Democrats and he just wrote them off with his irresponsible words. The cons on IAB can pretend all they want that nothing bad was said but this one is not going to go away. Facebook, Twitter and political ads will carry this message to every one of those 47%. This will have an impact on the ones that are independent voters.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Dad blame gun clinging yokels
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Romney`s absolutely correct. If anything, this helps him.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Republican - "I think I will see what I can do to keep that from happening to me again."
    Then why are they bent on stopping everyone from having an abortion? Why are they bent on stopping same sex marriage. The problem with republicans is they want the government to rule everyones personal lives. Open your eyes dang or else a republican might someday be stationed in your bedroom.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:58 am
    "Two that if you include payroll taxes the number drops to 18%. "

    And I could make the number drop to zero by including yet some other irrelevant value. So what?

    Romney states a fact, gets tarred and feathered. Obama blows smoke up your dress for four years and you continue to worship at the alter.

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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 7:59 am
    What scares me is this man is now getting security briefings. Loose lips sink ships. Mitt is becoming the Sara Palin to his own campaign.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:03 am
    >>Then why are they bent on stopping everyone from having an abortion? Why are they bent on stopping same sex marriage. The problem with republicans is they want the government to rule everyones personal lives. Open your eyes dang or else a republican might someday be stationed in your bedroom.<<<

    While I will agree that social conservatives do tend to want government to involve themselves in personal matters. Can you name ONE social or economic issue in the last 50 years that a democrat has suggested LESS government involvment and power was the answer. The choice to me is between a group that wants a, overall bigger government involvement in our lives, and a group that wants overall less involvement from government in our lives. While the second group does tend to advocate some involvement that I do not agree with. If forced to choose, and I seem to be forced here, would rather have the economic situation straighten out now and fix the other issues later.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:06 am
    "Romney`s absolutely correct. If anything, this helps him."

    Yes, it`s always a good idea to insult and belittle a quarter of your target voters and a large portion of the independents. What an incredible strategy. The Obama team is kicking themselves for not thinking of this.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Ok well that kind of throws your entire argument into the fail pail. Positive nonsense statements about a party that prays to an invisible man in the sky will ultimately let you down all the time.

    How about this. You name 1 (just one) government program that was implemented by republicans that has been good for America and i`ll answer your question.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:10 am
    "Can you name ONE social or economic issue in the last 50 years that a democrat has suggested LESS government involvment and power was the answer."

    The repeal of Don`t Ask Don`t Tell by President Barack Obama has strengthened our military.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Oh and republicans did implement the war on drugs. Think about that the next time you`re sucking on that proto-pipe.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Try as you might madest, but taxing those red states in your map WON`T balance th budget.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:16 am
    No but taxing Romney and his ilk will.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:17 am
    "You name 1 (just one) government program that was implemented by republicans that has been good for America and i`ll answer your question."

    Ah but see that is the point. Government programs rarely if ever are "good" for America. You seem to want to have a we did more crap for you than they did argument. And seem to be afraid to answer a simple question So I will start, but this is policy not `programs`

    Freeing the slaves, the Monroe Doctrine, supporting the civil rights act... your turn.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:18 am
    "You name 1 (just one) government program that was implemented by republicans"

    Oh I dunno. Freeing the slaves wasn`t really a program.

    The Republican Congress that drafted the Civil Rights Act, and forced LBJ to sign it. Not really a program though.

    Hmmmmm. Oh yeah, WE DON`T DO PROGRAMS! WE CHANGE THINGS TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR ALL, not run programs for a select few.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:19 am
    >>The repeal of Don`t Ask Don`t Tell by President Barack Obama has strengthened our military.<<

    Good job. Note here we have a case of LESS regulation NOT more. Care to try again.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:19 am
    "No but taxing Romney and his ilk will."

    Taxing the top 1% at 100% will only gain 200 billion in tax revenue. That`s pooty.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Don`t forget, DADT was a democrat mandate. DOMA was a democrat mandate.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:21 am
    No but taxing Romney and his ilk will.

    No it won`t, Uncle Sam`s debt is FAR worse than that.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:23 am
    "Care to try again."

    Not really. You only asked for one example. And you capitalized all the letters in one so I thought you really meant only one. I gave you a good example. Moving on.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:26 am
    "Don`t forget, DADT was a democrat mandate."

    No, it was a compromise. President Clinton wanted open service by gays and lesbians.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:27 am
    Government programs rarely if ever are "good" for America. ------
    Yeah the Moon landing sucked and was a waste of time. This stupid internet is taking away from my library time. Damn NIH out trying to develop drugs that save lives.. I mean these damn taxes all go to worthless crap.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:28 am
    "Oh and republicans did implement the war on drugs."

    Democrat congress spent the money on it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:29 am
    "Damn NIH out trying to develop drugs that save lives"

    Don`t even get me started on this. There hasn`t been a cure for anything for 60 years. Why?

    Money vortex. They are creating drugs that do just enough to keep getting their funding.

    Double Trouble the cat is one example.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:30 am
    "Yeah the Moon landing sucked and was a waste of time."

    Well Obama seems to agree with you, since he is destroying NASA.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:31 am
    Sometimes AJ I wonder how that brain of yours reminds you to breathe...
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:31 am
    >>Not really. You only asked for one example. And you capitalized all the letters in one so I thought you really meant only one.<<<

    Actually I asked for a `Program` not a policy. Good catch on the one vs. ONE. typing.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:32 am
    Ahhh. Resorting to insult instead of content again.

    Keep showing us that big brain there killer.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:32 am
    "There hasn`t been a cure for anything for 60 years. Why? Money vortex. They are creating drugs that do just enough to keep getting their funding."

    I completely agree with you. But it is even worse and more evil. Greed is keeping the drug companies from coming up with cures. A cure will not make money. Drugs that fight the illness are big money.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:34 am
    >>>Actually I asked for a `Program` not a policy. Good catch on the one vs. ONE. typing.<<<

    Ah well after rereading I see my original post I see that I was not really that specific either. Oh well that`s what I get for trying to do 6 things at once. So for now I will withdraw, hopefully gracefully.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:35 am
    "Actually I asked for a `Program` not a policy."

    Come on man. You asked for an issue not a program, "Can you name ONE social or economic issue in the last 50 years that a democrat has suggested LESS government involvment and power was the answer." Not allowing gays to serve openly was a big issue for the gays it affected.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:36 am
    Isn`t it odd that the people who complain loudest about the lack of cures also fight vaccinations?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:37 am
    "So for now I will withdraw, hopefully gracefully."

    Since hardly anyone on IAB ever admits they even came close to being wrong this is quite graceful.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2012 at 8:47 am

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 9:08 am
    I`ll give you that one patchgrabber, that was actually funny.


    Yeah the Moon landing sucked and was a waste of time.

    Nothing says private enterprise couldn`t do it. Sure it was cool, but it was mostly for prestige a la Pyramids of Giza.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 9:12 am
    Greed is keeping the drug companies from coming up with cures.

    Not exactly, it`s their cronyism. Cures can`t sustain large corporations, that doesn`t mean they wouldn`t return some profit short term.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 9:30 am
    It`s comical that the same people that don`t trust the government to do anything successfully think they could conceal a cure for an illness because there`s more profit in treatment. Republicans would do themselves a great service by being thoughtful before spouting their bluster. They lack logic and think their nonsense soundbites makes sense.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 11:40 am
    madest: If that chart you posted had been broken down by cities, it would`ve looked a lot differently. The inner cities are filled with non-payers, grant blocks, section 3 housing, SNAP recipients, welfare recipients and yes, democrat voters.

    It`s not just about federal income taxes, but who is sucking from the gov`t teet.

    I seriously doubt that any democrat is seeking to benefit republican voters in the south, democrats seek to get the most government goodies for their own constituents at all times.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Yeah that`s what most racists believe. Gratz CJ but I already knew that of you.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yeah that`s what most racists believe.

    Yep, that`s what a typical hard-left clown says to an opponent. Congrats madest we already knew that of you.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    I regret voting for Obama, but Romney has turned out to be a weak-kneed half-assed flip-flopping airhead. Niether two make good presidents so I`ll be voting for Johnson.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    Niether two make good presidents so I`ll be voting for Johnson.

    So you`ll be voting for Obama then?

    Actually, it depends on which state you live in.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Actually, it depends on which state you live in.

    More like Mitt Romney (Texas). It`s just that we libertarians have ALWAYS been told to vote Republican lest the opposition candidate wins and expands the govt. Yet Reagan din`t remove any departments and both Bushes have expanded govt, despite the GOP`s warnings.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2106 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Romney is a con-man.Period.If you get fooled,you deserve it.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    madest: So now I`m a racist for stating the facts about the large cities of America?

    Straight out of the liberal playbook, If you can`t counter the facts call`em a racist, bigot, warmonger, homophobe, evil or heartless.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    September 19, 2012 at 7:16 am
    Yes CJ, because that`s the mind of a racist. Inner cities, urban centers all key words to racists and it`s where they believe all the welfare money goes. The opposite is true in fact. White rural trailer parks filled with disabled losers sucking on the government nipple, praying to God, trying to convince the world that they are somehow true Americans. Yeah you exactly.

    Proof.

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