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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Link: The `Pro-Life` Movement Philosophy - Boiled down into one convenient one-frame cartoon.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Just swallow a few plan Bs. Should do the trick. Nobody has to know it wasn`t a miscarriage.
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    xelous Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    Take care of the unborn, screw the living, they had their chance.

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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    @TKD, what if you don`t know your pregnant until you miss your period?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    The baby in the cartoon is like 9 months along.

    sweetrebeinc, then nip it in the bud. Abortions at 20 weeks are creepy.
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    ShadowVamp Female 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    TKD: I`ve never used them, but aren`t Plan B`s something like $70 each? And they only work if taken within 72 hours or something, so by the time you know you`re pregnant it`s already too late for that option.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
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    September 7, 2012 at 4:03 pm
    Following that logic...

    .... if you are pro-abortion, do you then move the umbrella to the mother, and leave the unborn in the rain?

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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    "Only in America can you be pro-death penalty, pro-war, pro-unmanned drone bombs, pro-nuclear weapons, pro-guns, pro-torture, pro-land mines, and still call yourself pro-life."

    - John Fugelsang
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    FoolsPrussia: YES.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    TKD- Plan B isn`t an abortion pill at all, Shadow is right. As a matter of fact, if you already ARE pregnant, plan B is actually good for da baby.

    That being said, I don`t consider Plan B a good option for women. And I`m not prolife or prochoice. Pro-PREVENTION is my game. Condoms, birth control. F*cking use it.
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    mamba Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    Yes...if you are in fact pro-abortion.

    If you`re pro choice, following the analogy, you`d give the mother the umbrella.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    "pro-land mines" "pro-nuclear weapons" "pro-drone"

    All strange items to put on that list. I don`t know anyone who is pro-landmine. I do know it`s used in warfare to kill people, but the whole idea of differentiating "humane" and "inhumane" ways to kill and mutilate people in warfare is hilarious. They`re all inhumane.

    Pro-nuclear, nobody wants to use Nuclear weapons? Seriously, they don`t. Some people, however, have pointed out that those pesky devastating World Wars haven`t occurred since we got them, though.

    Pro-drone.....war drones do kill people, correct. But the reason drones are employed is to lower total deaths. Think of World War 2, we were absolutely the good guys, but we killed almost a 100,000 allied French people with our bombs alone! I would hate to return to that way if we had to choose. Also, it limits our casualties to zero.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Abortion of viable babies (25 weeks) should not be legal unless the mother`s life is in danger. There`s no argument to counter this one. At the viability point it`s easier to just induce labor and give up the child for adoption than to abort it.

    Personally, I wouldn`t abort a fetus at any age. But that`s my subjective opinion that I wouldn`t force on anyone else.
    Over 25 weeks tho? Sorry, too late, that`s murder.

    I am:
    anti-death penalty
    anti-land mines
    anti-nuclear weapons
    pro-unmanned drone bombs (that`s just badass! In a legitimate congress-approved war that threatens our national security, of course)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 7, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    A pro-abortionist would shove the umbrella up the woman`s v-j-j and that would be that!

    @FP: John Fugelsang can lick me where I poo; what a dolt!
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    September 7, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    I wish I had a nickel for every time I`ve thought "what a dolt!" when reading a 5Cats post...
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    wickedsngr Female 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    I am pro-choice. I am absolutely for women making the choice whether or not to have unprotected sex. If she makes the choice to not use the pill or a condom, however, it is her responsibility to own up to that. A child`s heartbeat can be heard within the first month of pregnancy. How is that not a sentient being?

    Now in cases of rape/incest, I feel the woman should have the right to end a pregnancy within a reasonable amount of time. However 92% of abortions performed in America are on healthy women with healthy babies, who are only choosing to end the child`s life. Abortion should not be a means of birth control. Either use a condom or keep your legs closed.
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    This doesn`t sum up anything. I get that it is trying to be an attack on republicans/ conservatives (who, by the way, aren`t the only ones who are pro-life). So, instead of saying it sums up the pro-life movement, this should say that it sums up Republicans view of the pro-life debate, insofar as attacks are frequently made of late that they care more about the unborn than they do about the living.

    This is still a specious argument, though. Republicans hold the umbrella if they want to (and many do). Democrats collect funds to pay other people to hold the umbrella.

    Believe whichever you want for which is right (morally, ethically) and which is most efficient. Just stop the crap about one side or the other not caring about people. Each believes that their methods are the most ethical and efficient.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    @Andrew: You do know that landmines stay a constant threat in countries after the war has ended? I had a friend who visited Kosovo years after the war. One day, he walked up a hill. When he came back, a policeman told him that the hill was mined.

    Guess which countries have opted out of the Ottowa Treaty which seeks to ban the use of landmines? China, Russia, and the USA.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 7, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    No, not accurate at all. Show the mother weilding a knife and the
    pro-lifer holding her arm back, THAT would be accurate.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    wickedsngr: interesting post.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    September 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    @wickedsngr : you`re aware that no method of birth control is 100% effective, right? My best friend in high school got pregnant on the pill. She chose to keep it, btw, and married the guy. He cheated on her later but she stuck it out in the marriage. I don`t know what her status is now but it would have been nice if she hadn`t married so young.

    Or that men can secretly slip off a condom halfway through because it doesn`t feel good or he fails to hold onto it when he pulls out and the condom and sperm ends up way inside the woman (both happened to me, btw)? Fortunately, I back a condom up with the pill so I should never have to worry about the awful decision to abort or not. Thankfully, I can afford to do that and the pill doesn`t make me sick.

    I seriously doubt women are happily skipping down the street to the abortion doctor.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 7, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Corporations are people, my friend.
    Corporations don`t have babies therefore babies are not people.

    hmmm something could be wrong in that logic.
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    wickedsngr Female 18-29
    457 posts
    September 7, 2012 at 11:47 pm
    @Lauriloo: Yes, I am aware of that. I guess I should have worded myself a bit better. My main point is that we need to teach our young people that you have to be held accountable for your actions. If you are not responsible enough to take the chance that your actions in the heat of a moment could lead to you raising a child (or at least birthing one), then maybe you`re not ready for sex. I think it`s sad how sex is so casual and almost a throwaway action nowadays.

    It used to be taught that when two people love each other very much, and they`ve discussed the possible outcomes of their actions, they may or may not decide to have sex. Now it seems more like we`re teaching "Meh... sex is just something you do by the third date." No friggin wonder abortion is being used as birth control.
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    New_Guy Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 12:54 am
    when does it become anybody else`s business what people do with there body`s? What gives anyone, properly are against gun control the right to decide how or if somebody get an aborting? It pisses me of that people think they can come and tell me or anybody that i should put a life into this world and then turns around a tells me that if i can`t afford it then it is my problem or it needs to put up for adoption, especially when you look at the state of the world. I Love my child and i give him the best i have and can afford but if I did not have the time or the money to be a parent or if the fact was forced upon me then it`s my god damned chose to choose my action!
    So balls to you if you think you should make the decision for me...

    It`s funny to me that a group or people how are so afraid of being controlled by there government are so eager to control other people!
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 3:11 am
    Perhaps becuase sex is nothing special? it`s the act of reproduction which happens to release a bunch or hormones which make you feel good. an act which your body chemistry drives you to oh f.uck i think i see the problem here. Well in that case may i suggest that we educate youngsters on how to best deal with this bodily urge to minimize the risk? oh someone who believes differently tells me that that is immoral, that life is a gift from god etc. just to clarify i think life is amazing, in all it`s forms wether it`s a tree having a go on the side of the cliff in 3 inches of dirt or a beetle with golden wings which are build up off 70! layers.
    But then i don`t see to many christians concerned about all of god`s creation. all i see is christians tell other people they shouldn`t give in to their urges, and if they do they should deal with the results. and damn the concequenses for the kid or parents.
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    September 8, 2012 at 4:23 am
    @ New Guy:

    Yep, the same could be said for assisted suicide, recreational drug taking, prostitution etc.

    An unbiased education it what the world needs. That`s the only way we can achieve true freedom without the state trying to mother (nanny) people. Abosultely ANY ACTION between 1+ consenting adults should be allowed if it doesn`t harm anyone under 18.

    People may agree with me but argue that abortion is harming `the child`. Well, if that`s your belief then don`t ever have an abortion. But don`t restrict that freedom from others.

    I would never force a vegetarian to eat meat, force a Muslim to read the bible or force a blond woman to dye her hair brown. Why? Because I respect choice.

    I personally hate the idea of abortion and would never want to have to result to it. But I am completely respectful of those that feel they need to.

    Pro-life = Pro-restriction
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    ExtraCredit Male 50-59
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    September 8, 2012 at 6:27 am
    This image nailed the "pro life" movement for what they really are: not pro life, but rather pro birth.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 8, 2012 at 6:49 am

    Pro-choices always make the pro-lifers as uncaring. Their logic is if you save a life you are responsable to provide for that person for life. Huh?

    Uncaring is the mother who`s killing the baby. Uncaring is the parent who keeps a child they can`t care for rather than give it up for adoption, at least they care more for themself than the wellbeing of the kid.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 7:03 am
    7.5 billion people on this mudball.

    7,500,000,000 people.

    If the religious weren`t so intent on having as many <insert denomination here> babies, on the notion that that will win the religious war...we wouldn`t have the levels of starvation we have today.

    If every stupid hick from afghanistan to compton to baton rouge was not having 6 children and not taking care of 1...we wouldn`t have the population issues we have today.

    AS IT STANDS, we have too many damned people on this planet for it to sustain.

    If you take away birth control options, all that means is that nature and our society will be forced to look for alternative population control methods.

    I think it will invariably lead to more war, more violent crimes, and the levels of suffering will rise everywhere.

    We do NOT need 7.5 Billion people on this planet. One of the few things I think China got right in principle was the limit on the number of children a
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 8, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Incorrect cartoon is incorrect. I know for a fact there are many groups willing to help a woman struggling with her pregnancy and offer adoption options with pre-natal care and monetary help.

    There are a lot of child-less couples, wanting a baby, more than willing to help support a mother in order to adopt her child.

    I`m also with Dixxy, on the pro-prevention, Wrap it up guys and get on the pill girls.
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    nikkypickles Female 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 8:40 am
    Last night I read an (albeit dated) article about a young teenager in a country where abortion is illegal - not just a heavily debated topic but out and out illegal. Doctors cannot knowingly end a pregnancy. This girl was diagnosed with cancer at about 18 weeks into the pregnancy, but the doctors couldn`t treat the cancer without aborting the baby, which they couldn`t do because... hello? illegal.
    The girl died of her cancer before reaching term.
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    penguinazul Female 18-29
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    September 8, 2012 at 9:02 am
    The reason I am pro-choice is because I have witnessed too many grown people be f*cked up in the head because they were the result of a one night stand where nobody intended nor wanted to have them but probably only kept them to save face. They grew up with their parents being in and out of their lives, being resented, and tossed around from person to person because no one knew where to put them. They grow up not being a blessing, but a burden, and it doesn`t take them long to figure that out.

    You say "Oh they should own up to the responsibility", and rightfully so, they should. But some parents keep their children for the wrong reasons and the child is the one who ends up suffering in the end. Would it not be better, in that case, to just abort the unborn child and save them a life of wondering why the hell nobody wants them?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 8, 2012 at 9:44 am
    That`s F-ing brilliant.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    September 8, 2012 at 10:14 am
    DingDingDong, you aren`t pro life because you wont force your opinion on anyone. Pro life/pro choice has nothing to do with your personal opinion on abortion. You can really hate it, never having an abortion yourself, think it`s horrible, etc. As long as you want it to remain legal (even if you limit it to "legal before sentience") you`re pro choice.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    Women should be able to choose. Maybe they could choose masterbation, or abstinence. How bout birth control or some profalactics. Maybe some foresight might help the issue. Take your pick, but for the love, quit killing unborn babies cause you can`t choose to say no. (rape and insest are, of course, excluded (there`s no choice in those)).
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
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    September 8, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    RytWing, how can you kill something that`s not yet born?
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    Abortion silly.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    September 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm
    i`m with RytWing. If you can`t control yourself enough to take the necessary precautions then you should live with the consequences. adoption is always an option.
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    deputy Male 50-59
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    September 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    Rytwing: if there only was a place where people (especialy the younger) were informed about the options that are there for them, but then again, why would people be schooled if they can be scorned
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    September 9, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    What a moronic statement. As if education and persecution are on the same level. What a sad rebuttal.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    September 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    "If you can`t control yourself enough to take the necessary precautions then you should live with the consequences. adoption is always an option. "

    Know what else is always an option? Just throw the kid somewhere in the woods where there`s a lot of bears. Or better yet, we can go back to the old days where unwanted kids worked in coal mines. I mean, China is employing their unwanted kids, and see how awesome their economy is!
    Anyway, point being adoption is a bullcrap option. You can`t solve all your social problems by throwing kids away like unwanted trash.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    September 10, 2012 at 6:25 am
    Anyone who says that adoption is a better option is a f*cking moron. The foster care system in the US is already overflowing with hundreds of thousands of kids, many of these kids have severe emotional problems as a result of being put in foster care. My daughter is adopted and its taken us 4 years just to overcome her trust issues and we`re still struggling with various other problems.
    Putting a child up for adoption is sometimes a worse option than abortion, because the emotional trauma of not having a home/family screws the kid up for life.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    September 10, 2012 at 7:11 am
    penned by a pro-choice, anti-death penalty `artist` who believes it is ok to kill innocent babies but no thardened criminals.

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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 10, 2012 at 7:32 am
    who believes it is ok to kill innocent babies but no thardened criminals.
    The point here is that we disagree on whether it is a baby or not, but mostly I disagree that it deserves the same rights as a born human from the moment it`s conceived. I don`t see why it can`t have rights as a person after a certain point. Perhaps you have a logical argument as to why rights must be granted at conception.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    September 10, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    oh, so you wish your adopted child had been aborted then? that makes sense...
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    penguinazul Female 18-29
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    September 10, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    "oh, so you wish your adopted child had been aborted then? that makes sense..."

    No, he`s saying that adoption can really f*ck up a kid. He loves his daughter, but if she hadn`t been thrown into the system like trash, she wouldn`t have to deal with the issues she does now. He`s glad he has his daughter, but he can see how abortion would prevent future problems like this.

    Why give birth to children if you`re just going to hand them over to the government where people REALLY don`t care about them? Sure, there are foster parents out there that genuinely love kids and want to help them, but a lot of them are only there because they get paid (or "reimbursed" as the government calls it) to be there.

    Do you know people who have grown up in foster care or to parents that quite obviously didn`t want them? Some are okay, but a good bit of them have major issues. If it were me, I`d rather have been aborted than hop through the foster care system, w

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