Teen Jailed After LOLing On Facebook [Pic+]

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago

Too much stupidity from all parties to compute.
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Male 59
@turdburglar. You do realise Europe is more than one country right? And pie was probably invented somewhere in the UK. I`m too lazy to look it up but we invented almost everything else.
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Male 2,436
OMG! I actually agree with madest about something!

The judge was totally out of bounds.
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Male 7,378
No she never lost her free speech rights. She was jailed for contempt of court but that`s what they do to vulnerable people who can`t afford a good lawyer. The judge was out of bounds ordering she remove her facebook page. He has no such authority.
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Male 4,893

I would gladly throw out the right of free speech, if that meant MacGuffin would have to shut her pie hole. (Or, being from europe, would that be a spotted dick hole?)
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Male 14,330
[quote]You Americans really do live in some Orwellian nightmare state where you don`t even recognise the self-contradictory Doublethink you`ve been brainwashed into believing, do you?[/quote]

LOL! Next time you`re in London count the cameras on the street..... Hows that whole banning of the topless photos of Kate going LOL!!

[quote]Keep wearing those star-spangled, rose-tinted glasses. [/quote]

Yes and I see you`ve got the royal thunder khunt shades on!
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Male 7,775
Lolling didn`t get you sent to jail, Latreesha, contempt of court did.
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Female 2,602
[quote]How the hell can it both be "free" speech, and yet have "consequences"

Because she was free to say it...[/quote]

What, you mean in the same way as those protestors form Bahrain that received draconian prison sentences for calling for democracy were "free" to call for democracy? Of course, it meant they had to serve life sentences in prison for doing so, but, you know, at least they were "free" to say it.

Keep wearing those star-spangled, rose-tinted glasses.
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Male 74
As I understand it constitutional law is open to interpretation as most law is in many countries.

I`m willing to bet that the statement she made on her facebook page was seen as obscene and whilst may not be the main argument for her jail time (as others have pointed out, she was in contempt of court) it was the founding for the judge asking to delete her facebook page/acount
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Male 74
All of that last post of mine is credited to a user called ConstitutionalLawyer on Reddit

Source
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Male 74
Freedom of speech protects you from the government, not from private actors. This means that if a private school or a private employer bans certain forms of speech, they are generally within their rights to do so.
Also, not all speech is considered “protected speech.” Certain kinds of speech such as libel, slander, obscenity, and "fighting words" are considered unprotected by the First Amendment and the government is given far greater leeway in limiting or restricting such speech. Other kinds of speech, like commercial speech and advertising, are protected but not as protected as political speech.
As for conceptualizing the First Amendment in general? Some key things to remember: the First Amendment protects the government from censoring your speech. It does not guarantee you a right to be a heard or freedom from the consequences of your speech. The government can`t punish you for speech - your boss probably can.
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Male 1,745
@HalfPintRoo typing LOL doesn`t necessarily mean she had no remorse for breaking the law and almost killing people. Maybe it did, maybe it didn`t. You`re reading way too much into it.
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Male 1,745
CrakrJak, but the LOL comment didn`t hurt others, except for maybe their feelings.

Can someone explain free speech comprehensively? It seems generally people use the free speech card when they want (agree with what was said) and don`t use it when they don`t want (disagree with what was said).
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Male 2,675
This is a very popular misconception on the internet: Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom of consequence. No one has the freedom of speech to make threats, yell `fire` in a theater, etc. Did the judge have the authority to prevent her from having a Facebook page? I don`t know how the law books would interpret that. They can certainly order you to remove websites that are your own, I would think removing your own page on another entity`s website would fall well within their jurisdiction.
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Female 2,764
How the hell can it both be "free" speech, and yet have "consequences"

Because she was free to say it...

and it also showed that she had no remorse for breaking the law and almost killing people.

what is so hard about seeing that?
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Male 2,675
"Asher said, "I didn`t think LOL would put me in jail.""

LOL didn`t put you in jail ya moron. DUI, hitting another car, then contempt of court for not following court orders put you in jail. Nice twist, but you`re a moron.
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Male 17,512
A DUI is nothing to laugh about. Of course she has freedom of speech, but that only extends as far as not hurting others. She should`ve complied with the judge`s order.
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Male 307
Have people just suddenly lost their minds around here?

Of *COURSE* she has to comply with the judge`s order - especially if he made it part of her sentencing (although admittedly, the article did not specify either way).

Does that make it constitutional or legal? Not necessarily... but that is when you get a lawyer, file an injunction and then file a challenge to the court`s finding in an Appeals Court.

It sounds like this idiotic girl did none of that... she just didn`t do what the judge ordered. For that, she should be held in contempt.

There is a right way and a wrong way to pursue things.... if you choose the wrong way, you can get bit in the @$$.
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Male 4,893

Macguffin - Maybe one day your angry internet words will solve Americas problems. Until then remember that America hates you too.

This isn`t much of a free speech issue. Judges will always throw the book harder when a criminal shows no remorse for a crime. On top of that, she disobeyed the courts order. A few days in jail is a little slap on the wrist for her crime. I`ve got to take another shower now. It makes me feel dirty whenever I find my self agreeing with 5cats.
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Male 176
I think I`m with the Judge on this. but I`m not that convinced....
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Male 787
Her facebook is not under court jurisdiction. Unless she was on probation or restraining order of some sort she does not need to comply to judges orders pertaining to speech. A good lawyer would`ve easily been able to do something about this for her.
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Male 7,378
What`s worse? Drunk driving or drunk texting? There is freedom of speech in this country no matter what 5Cats claims. There`s nothing she said that probably wasn`t the truth. You can sober up and become apologetic. I didn`t know the court could order you to shut down your Facebook account and I suspect they can`t. We won`t know until it`s challenged.
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Female 1,205
5Cats, couldn`t agree more!
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Female 8,044
MacGuffin, It looks like the UK has it`s fair share of "petty bureaucrats you foolishly allow to exercise their petty and petulant power over you?" also.

watch what you

say on the

internet in the UK

freedom of speech can get you arrested there.
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Male 1,230
The woman is a douche for driving drunk. The judge on the other hand needs to be severely beaten and told to shut up repeatedly while screming in pain.

He can piss off before, during or after re-reading the 1st amendment. Then piss off some more.
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Male 36,400
I think this arrogent little twat deserves two MONTHS in jail. That oughta smarten her up a little...

First Amendment? Not hardly. You cannot say things to a Judge with impunity. Telling lies under oath is not protected! No doubt she told the court all about "how sorry she was" and how "It will never happen again" but she`s LAUGHING about it in public?
Refusing a Judge`s order = contempt.
She`s not in jail for what she said, she`s in jail for disobeying a (presumably legal) Judge`s order.
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Female 267
Because driving drunk and crashing into a car full of people is so lol worthy.
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Female 2,602
[quote] Good for the judge. I`m all for freedom of speech, but just because you say something freely doesn`t mean it wont carry some consequence.[/quote]

You Americans really do live in some Orwellian nightmare state where you don`t even recognise the self-contradictory Doublethink you`ve been brainwashed into believing, do you? How the hell can it both be "free" speech, and yet have "consequences" just for displeasing those petty bureaucrats you foolishly allow to exercise their petty and petulant power over you?
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Male 1,625
Little sociopaths. I HAVE TO UPDATE MY STATUS! Disregards everything else.
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Male 2,436
Seems like a first amendment violation to me.
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Male 2,988
"The posting disturbed the people in the car she hit and the judge so much Asher was ordered by the court to shut down her Facebook page...Asher then ignored the judge`s order to shutdown her Facebook page."

I think it is clear in this case that a DUI and all that comes with it is not seen by this girl as bad of a punishment as having to take down her facebook page. I weep for the future. At least 2 whole days in jail seems to be even worse to her than a DUI or facebook page deletion. I foresee this girl spending more time in jail in the future.
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Male 1,511
The judge should not have attempted to censor her stupid comments. Freedom of speech and freedom to act like an idiot if it`s not hurting anyone or violating any laws.
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Male 224
I see no problem with the sentence.
The facebook comment clearly showed no remorse at all over the incident and a callous disregard for the feelings of the victims.
Then refusing to follow the judge`s orders showed contempt which is what led to the jail time.

Saw a few comments on it being a violation of freedom of speech. If freedom of speech also means freedom from responsibility, then that ammendment needs ammending.
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Male 7,340
She didn`t get put in jail for typing `LOL`.

She got put in jail for being a dumb b**ch.
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Female 2,764
Good for the judge. I`m all for freedom of speech, but just because you say something freely doesn`t mean it wont carry some consequence.
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Male 5,009
LOL
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Male 15,510
LOL
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Male 19,850
Link: Teen Jailed After LOLing On Facebook [Pic+] [Rate Link] - Too much stupidity from all parties to compute.
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