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Date: 09/04/12 12:10 PM

37 Responses to Organic Food NOT Healthier, Says Stanford Research

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Link: Organic Food NOT Healthier, Says Stanford Research - You know all that expensive organic food you spend on at Whole Foods and farmers` markets? Yeah, Stanford says pointless
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Not pointless if you`re trying to avoid pesticides and care about taste. Grocery store produce is terrible.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    What? How could something grown with no pesticides not be healthier than something grown with pesticides? Or is that no longer a rule with organic food?
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    "Organic" is simply code for something that might kill you.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    Yes when it comes to the natural nutrition of the plant. I didn`t even know anyone made that argument. I prefer not to eat pesticides and carcinogens nor have them seep into the ground water.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    I friggin` knew it. I`m so glad I never fell on the organic bandwagon.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    Whole foods isn`t so bad (price wise), trader joes on the other hand...
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Here is an article to post in your annoying vegan/vegetarian friend facebook wall
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    blobman2000 Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    In the end it`s a clash of interests. Guess we`ll never know for sure solely by reading the research of others.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    If all food was organic, there would probably be a giant famine that would kill a good portion of Earth.

    ...Which would be good from an environmentalist`s point of view, I suppose.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    If you`ve never seen the "Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t" episode about organic foods I suggest you watch it now.
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    Skythe Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    Yeah I saw the Penn & Teller: Bullpoo episode too.
    People are still going to buy into it though.
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    wickedsngr Female 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    I buy my produce from the farmer`s market based on taste. Not whether it`s organic or not.

    "Whole foods isn`t so bad (price wise), trader joes on the other hand..."

    Ummm... are you f-ing high? TJ`s is waaaaaay cheaper than Whole Paycheck... erm, I mean "Foods."
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    "If all food was organic, there would probably be a giant famine that would kill a good portion of Earth."

    The opposite is true. Small traditional organic farms are much more sustainable and healthier. Large farming operations only plant one crop in an entire field, whereas organic farms tend to farm with mixed crops which minimizes disease and pests. All the big salmonella produce outbreaks occur due to the dense single crop farming. Also, farming just one type of seed and limiting the diversity of options also because entire industries are based on one breed of plant. Research banana farming. Every 50 years or so the breed of bananas changes because the previous one was destroyed completely by disease.
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    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 2:17 pm
    I prefer to grow my own or go to the local farmer`s market wich is usually a hell of a lot cheaper than the grocery store..I buy my veggies in the store when it is winter ,and I do not know what it is but the Amish must have magical growing powers because they can grow some awesome tomatoes..There has been many times I have walked down to the farmers market on lunch and bought one giant tomato from the Amish folk while everyone eles is pooling in for McDonald`s..
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    If that were true, farmers would farm organic because it would be more profitable and they would get larger yields, but they don`t.

    I won`t deny they are healthier because they contain less alien chemicals, but it`s harder to feed a larger population using those methods...especially with rapid urbanization in the 3rd world.

    Before the Green Revolution, most food was (relatively) organic and a mass die-off was predicted. The Green Revolution saved possibly a billion lives or so with significantly higher yields. These higher yields were caused by gene selection, synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, and other things like this. Basically, the opposite of the organic food movement.

    So basically, organic is healthier, more expensive, and has lower yields. Green Revolution foods are full of chemicals, cheap, and are what have sustained today`s large population bubble.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    1. it has already been pointed out that this study was seriously flawed.
    2. this study only looked at the nutrient values of the two foods and did not take into account the effect of chemical additive, steriod, antibitotics and pesticides found in conventional food.
    3. eating organix is about avoiding pesticides, steriods and other cehmicals in what is called conventional food, not about increased nutrients.

    I will continue to eat organic because I do not want chemical that were originally used in WWI as weapons AKA pesticides, in my body. Oh yes, that`s right, pesticides ARE made from the same chemicals Germany used as weapons in WW1, that is a FACT.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    I`m sorry, since when is Penn and Teller an expert in any goddamn thing except magic?????

    why the fuq should I listen to anything those morons have to say about anything? what is their expertise? oh right, nadda, nothing zip.

    next please.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    @Andrew155

    Stick to one topic. Mixed crop farms are more resistant to famine. I said nothing about yield. Your comment was not in reference to anything I said.
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    DinVen Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    For me it`s all about minimizing toxins. Then of course a lot of organic food simply taste better.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    Ummm... are you f-ing high? TJ`s is waaaaaay cheaper than Whole Paycheck... erm, I mean "Foods."


    Not here! I have to get gluten free bread and it`s 1.50 cheaper at Whole Foods then trader joes! Same goes for my flours. Maybe it`s just where I am.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    Another benefit of buying at a farmer`s market is that the produce is fresher, so it also lasts longer once you get it home.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    September 4, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    Organic chemistry = Chemistry of carbon-based compounds.
    Organic food = food that comes from carbon based compounds.
    Human race = life-form structured on carbon based compounds.
    Global warming caused by the use of carbon-based compounds.
    Remove the human race from the equation, and you will have a perfect planet.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    People need to realize that just because the food comes from "organic farms" doesn`t mean it`s pesticide free. They still use pesticides derived from natural sources, they don`t use synthetic pesticides. In some cases, the natural, or "organic" pesticides, can be more harmful to the environment than synthetic pesticides.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm
    For me, organic tastes a million times better than regular foods; however regular foods taste better on my wallet.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 8:22 pm
    this is not breaking news....
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    JoexBro Male 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    Stanford, I could have told you that. It`s not so much that they arent different, it is that the organic market is so heavily unregulated that practically anyone can slap an organic sticker on there and say its organic. So your controls and test items can be easily contaminated by this. If I want food without poison in it, I might just buy it. Also Nickel2, the term "organic" is really just a borrowed term, anything living is organic, by definition.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 4, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    You know all that expensive organic food you spend on at Whole Foods and farmers` markets?
    No. What do you take me for, some kind of fapping liberal idiot? I buy my food at Wal-mart.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    September 4, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    DuckBoy87:
    Organic doesn`t even taste half again as good. I just watched top local chef talking about it on the news, and he said "...locally grown, imported, organic, you can`t tell the difference."
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    September 4, 2012 at 10:00 pm
    Obviously an organic carrot and a regular carrot are going to be nutritionally the same. Who said organically food was more nutritious? It has less pesticides and is usually fresh because of less preservatives, therefore generally tastes better.
    Also, buying local farm products is still extremely important for our economy, nothing to do with health or environment.
    Also, organic food technically isn`t better for the environment by some standards, yet is better in others. It requires more natural resources but also contaminates our environment less.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    September 5, 2012 at 2:23 am
    this is such a bunch of bulls hit. But sure, spray some more roundup on my fruit and vege, it`s good for me!!!!!!!!and why you`re at it, shove some goat genes in there to, it`s loving and nutricious. GMO GMO GMO all the way babyyyyyy. who needs soil with nutriants in it, your body doesn`t need vitamins and minerals, just eat some mac donalds and gulp down some coke and you`ll be fine! f ucking morons.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2012 at 3:55 am
    They`ve ignored many of the ethical aspects of organic food production; with organic eggs and chicken, pork, beef and milk for example, the benefits of a happier better looked after animal is really at the core. Also, with eggs, you can always tell the difference between free range and battery farmed; the colour of the yolk is a big clue.
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    Monosandalos Male 30-39
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    September 5, 2012 at 4:55 am
    For some reason, this "related" article on that site seems more I-A-B worthy...
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    EricForman Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Penn & Teller`s: Bullsh*t did an episode on this already. Most people who buy organic products just buy them to be "cool".
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    Misfit-Mutt Female 18-29
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    September 5, 2012 at 10:07 am
    [EDITED:">These people are nonsense. Read this and think about what corn is used in. This is only one example of why people should be eating more organically. Or at least be more aware of what they are shoving in their faces.
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    comp_wizard Male 18-29
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    September 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Nutritionally, the only difference that has ever been reported between organic and non-organic foods is that some plants produce more antioxidants when they have to fight off pests and disease without chemical aid. This is possibly significant, but you can get the same amount of antioxidant more cheaply by buying non-organic fruit and eating more of it. (Also, in meat, there`s the difference in fat types between grass- and grain-fed animals, but that`s not quite the same thing as organic vs non-organic production.)

    So, the only health difference is the presence of additives such as pesticides, antibiotics, etc. Officially, all of these have been approved as safe to eat at concentrations that might be found on food. There are certainly reasons to be skeptical of such claims, but it isn`t that surprising to discover that in actual human diets, any health effects of approved safe pesticide dosages are statistically insignificant. That`s what safety laws are designed to ensure!
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2012 at 9:34 am
    As evidenced by the comments below, it doesn`t matter how many studies show this blatantly obvious fact. The anti-science zealots will still screech about the supposed benefits of organic food, based on nothing but their feelings and anecdotal "evidence".

    FYI, they`ll also ignore the settled science proving that vaccines are safe and that global warming is a hoax. Facts just get in the way of their dogmatic religious zealotry.

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