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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    Link: Libyan Politics: Reagan Vs Obama - Wrong or right, true or false I-A-B?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Obama bombed Libya too...and that "leader" is now gone.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:32 pm
    You`re skipping over the whole part about how people from other Middle Eastern countries flew planes into buildings over here.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    There are dozens of SEPERATE militant factions operating in Libya that could have been involved.
    How about we find out who they are first before we start bombing "their leader"
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    aburrido2 Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    This was obviously done by an ignorant right winger. Epic fail
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    The Awesome! It`s so beautiful!

    fyi: An Arabic man`s house is his castle. If you bomb his house or demolish it, it`s a BIG disgrace for him. Thus when Rompin` Ronnie "redecorated" Kadaffi`s residence a little, it sent a BIG message...

    Yeah I know, EVERYONE`s home is their castle, ok? But like the mustache, some traditions are more of a big deal in some cultures.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:37 pm
    I refuse to believe I-A-B`s regular conservatives are stupid enough to defend this one.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    In Today`s News

    @FP: Kindly point out the error?

    While American embasies are being attacked? Obama is in Las Vegas raising funds! C`mon 6! I need a 6! Michelle needs a new pair of shoes!

    Also: The Muslim Mobs burned down a Kentucky Fried Chicken and an Arby`s in Lebenon... just thought I`d share that, fwiw.
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    OzzyMerc Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    Dumb assed arguement. Todays world is not the same as it was 30+ years ago
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    1) Obama also bombed Qaddafi
    2) Qaddafi was killed last year; his enemies were assisted by airstrikes ordered by Obama
    3) Obama didn`t apologize to the attackers. The American embassy in Cairo put out a statement 6 hours before the attack in Libya attempting to denounce the film. The Obama administration did not write that memo.
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    triki-trakes Male 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    There was no apology before the attack. Come on people
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Yeah, someone "apologized". In the dreams of ultra-rightwing pooheads did anyone "apologize."
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    Lol. I think you guys take things to seriously. Even though he`s clearly conservative, he`s definitely saying this tongue-in-cheek.

    FoolsPrussia, I find it strange you would cheer the death and overthrow of Qaddafi and still claim to be against the Iraq war, it`s really not much more different than the whole Saddam situation. 30,000 people still died (with probably more to come) Per capita and per day - this is exceedingly higher than the Iraq death rate, which ended up being a total of 120,000. But I suppose brown people count less, maybe.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    "I refuse to believe I-A-B`s regular conservatives are stupid enough to defend this one."

    You had already been proved wrong before you hit Post Reply.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Hmmm, 5Cats, you said, "Thus when Rompin` Ronnie "redecorated" Kadaffi`s residence a little, it sent a BIG message..." I wonder what it meant when Obama supported his killing and looting of the man`s house?

    Further, to be clear about what Reagan said in a VERY similar circumstance, when the helicopters were downed in the failed Iranian hostage rescue attempt, Reagan was running for the Republican nomination. Let`s see what he said, "This is the time for us as a nation and a people to stand united" And what did George H.W. Bush, also running for the nomination say? "I unequivocally support the president of the United States -- no ifs, ands or buts -- and it certainly is not a time to try to go one-up politically. He made a difficult, courageous decision."

    Those guys had it right.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    `FoolsPrussia, I find it strange you would cheer the death and overthrow of Qaddafi and still claim to be against the Iraq war, it`s really not much more different than the whole Saddam situation.`

    I never cheered the Libya incursion. I don`t particularly care for any military adventurism.

    However, I would never argue that the Libya incursion is all that similar to the one in Iraq. In Libya, the coalition simply played a support role, while the rebels did most of the work. It was assisting a civil war, and not the beginning of an unprovoked occupation, as we saw with Iraq. Also, our leaders never lied about the reason for our involvement in Libya, like they did with Iraq. Very different situations.

    `But I suppose brown people count less, maybe.`

    Come on, man.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    cont. @ Andrew:

    Where did you even get the idea I was cheering for the Libya incursion? I was simply refuting the idea that "nothing happened" in Libya between Ronald Reagan`s bombing and the embassy attack.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    But he`s forgetting something crucial, the Libyan terrorists that were hunting down Dr. Brown in 1985 for stealing their nuclear fuel for his time traveling Delorean. Right before he and Marty Mcfly went back to 1955 and... well you all know this one. Jeez Cons, read up on your history!!!!
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    "This was obviously done by an ignorant right winger. Epic fail" - aburrido2
    "I refuse to believe I-A-B`s regular conservatives are stupid enough to defend this one." - FoolsPrussia
    "Dumb assed arguement. Todays world is not the same as it was 30+ years ago" - OzzyMerc
    "Yeah, someone `apologized`. In the dreams of ultra-rightwing pooheads did anyone `apologize.`" - SmagBoy1
    "Jeez Cons, read up on your history!!!!" - QueenZira

    Wow - liberals and Dems continuously spewing their hatred in misguided attempts to further divide the citizens of this great nation. Who would have thought...

    Oh the irony.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    Reagan`s on every channel! Those were the days.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    That`s what happens when we got someone in the White House that`s sympathetic to muslims.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm
    Quick, take down this post before somebody`s feelings get hurt!
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    Barnk Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 6:54 pm
    Oh, you Republicans. You`re very dumb.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 14, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    "Wow - liberals and Dems continuously spewing their hatred in misguided attempts to further divide the citizens of this great nation. Who would have thought... "

    Both sides do this you partisan idiot. You did it yourself in your response.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    September 14, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    The Americans weren`t killed because Libya isn`t afraid of us. Libya killed some Americans because one of us made a movie that offended their religion. Also they hate us because we support Isreal, and they hate Jews, therefore they hate Isreal, therefore they hate us.
    You never hear of Jews murdering somebody because somebody made a Moses joke. Just sayin.
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    poonoodle Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    ""Jeez Cons, read up on your history!!!!" - QueenZira "

    Wow - conservatives and Reps continuously not actually reading or understanding what they are arguing against. Or at least, not seeing that movie.


    Not sure this is actually ironic.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 14, 2012 at 9:26 pm
    I wonder what it meant when Obama supported his killing...
    @SmagBoy: That is "regime change" which I recall you H8TING Bush over in Iraq...
    So it`s OK for Obama to KILL another world leader...
    But it`s BAD for Bush to Capture one...
    Hummmmm.

    In Libya, the coalition simply played a support role...
    @FP: Splitting hairs? ic.
    Liberals: It wasn`t "sex" it depends on what your definition of "is" is..
    Oh sorry, I mean dropping bombs on people and killing them. Sure, mostly they were soldiers, but dead is dead "support role" or _W_

    So @FP: Where`s the error, flasehood or mistake in this poster?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    September 14, 2012 at 10:42 pm
    "He bombed their Leader`s House."

    Ever occur to you that actions like that and other examples of American Imperialism in the Middle East is what lead to the situation we find ourselves? September 11th, the wars, bombings. You don`t see muslim terrorists flying planes into Canadian buildings do you?

    Maybe instead of being proud of these type of actions you should look at the ripple effect.
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    FaulknA Male 50-59
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    September 14, 2012 at 11:26 pm
    Apples and oranges. There is no comparison.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 14, 2012 at 11:32 pm
    This sounds about right.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 14, 2012 at 11:49 pm
    Oh sorry @HolyGod: I forgot that the Locherbie Bombing which killed 270 innocent people was a direct result of this horrible, unprovoked attack by Ronald Reagan.
    Oh wait...
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 3:33 am
    5Cats said: @SmagBoy: That is "regime change" which I recall you H8TING Bush over in Iraq...
    So it`s OK for Obama to KILL another world leader...
    But it`s BAD for Bush to Capture one...
    Hummmmm.


    5Cats, to be clear, no, I don`t condone Bush`s taking us into Iraq and CERTAINLY don`t condone Obama engaging us in Libya. It was effing stupid as hell and I was loud and vocal about it. It was a dumb move. I recall that it was mostly conservatives calling Obama weak for not engaging sooner. And I still think it was a mistake. My point was NOT to celebrate Gadafi`s death, but to point out your hypocrisy. You`re fine when it`s Reagan doing it, bombing his house, but you get your panties in a bunch when it`s Obama, and you don`t give him any credit for it. That`s ALL I was saying.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 3:55 am
    5cats is correct on this issue and muslims are just too damn thin skinned over their so called `prophet` and their fanatical book.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2012 at 4:04 am
    @ HolyGod, that is because nobody cares about Canada.
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    Simbosan Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 6:54 am
    Apology? What apology? Conservatives define the talent for delusion. NO... APOLOGY... WAS... MADE!

    Geddit?
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 7:13 am
    HA- You know it`s really tedious to have to go back up the turnip truck and pick up every Derp who fell off every time somebody didn`t get the joke.

    Thank you Poonoodle.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Uh, no, then they blew up an airplane over Scotland and the US was quiet for 20 years until Obama nailed Gaddhafi.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2012 at 7:37 am
    I do not understand the right wing garbage here. Obama is more responsible for Qaddafi`s death than Reagan is. The Libyans who attacked us are not ordinary Libyans. Libyans, for the most part, like us for helping them overthrow their dictator.

    Muslims are angry for more than just the movie. The movie is only the proverbial straw that broke the camel`s back. They have a long list of grievances against us, like the financial and arms support we showed for Middle Eastern dictators for many decades, and for siding with Israel.

    There was no apology. How about finding an issue with substance?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 8:26 am
    @markust: Both sides do this you partisan idiot. You did it yourself in your response.
    Who exactly am I a partisan of again? I didn`t realize we had graduated to being considered "partisans" of the libertarian party...

    By the way, if you simply read the comments of this post, the liberals far outweigh the conservatives in terms of spewing hatred. It`s very clear to see.

    But thank you for the complement.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 8:54 am
    @markust: To further my point I decided to do a quick count.

    In this thread, there are EIGHT (8) direct attacks and insults against conservatives, right-wingers, and Republicans.

    In this thread, there is ONE (1) - and it was mine - direct attack/insult against liberals and Democrats.

    Yep, I stand by my statement; you sure are a hateful bunch. I guess this is why researchers continue to note that people with liberal viewpoints are more pessimistic and less happy.

    It really shouldn`t surprise anyone though; most humans are simply chimps imitating the one they perceive to be the best among them. With this in mind it is clear to see that many of you have taken your behavior training directly from Obama.
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    Jonno22 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:05 am
    This MASSIVELY oversimplifies the intricacies and complexities of international relations.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:14 am
    @HumanAction, I was calling you out on your BS - trying to pretend it is only the Liberals and Dems that are dividing this country. And you did it with a touch of Conservatives are the only patriots. Two talking points in one. Such a deal for us.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:20 am
    Reagan ran.
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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:35 am
    "This MASSIVELY oversimplifies the intricacies and complexities of international relations."

    This MASSIVELY overuses words to state the obvious.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 10:23 am
    "Who exactly am I a partisan of again? I didn`t realize we had graduated to being considered "partisans" of the libertarian party."

    Are you kidding me? Glenn Beck is a libertarian. He was the most partisan, dishonest, divisive political pundits on TV. Funny how there are so many libertarians now. Could it be that Glenn Beck just figured out a way for conservatives to attack liberals without having to accept responsibility for the mess the conservatives left? If there were as many libertarians as people claim Ron Paul would have done a hell of a lot better.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 10:49 am
    Markust, tt is a shame that the libertarian party has been hijacked by the religious right in their zeal to try to be considered "moderate." The original seeds of the party was to be a moderate mediator between the Repubs and Demmies - the idea that peoples morals and ethics could guide them sensibly without a large government enforcing it.

    I guess in kind of a way, they were the "wishy-washy" group - liberal in social issues, but wanting a small government, while at the same time providing regulation on certain industries, while reducing controls on all others, etc. They believed that illegal aliens should not be given amnesty and should be deported, but for registered illegals, a path of citizenship and support should be provided to them.

    Originally the base definition of "moderate`" it is a shame that they don`t exist anymore.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Uh, no, then they blew up an airplane over Scotland and the US was quiet for 20 years until Obama nailed Gaddhafi.
    @mcboose? Um, not hardly: Kadaffi ended his nuclear program, turned over the spys involved in Locherbie, opened his army to UN inspectors and destroyed his chemical weapons under their observation...
    In other words he went from terrorist backing thug to actual world citizen.
    Hardly "silent" he led Libya into the 20th century! A little late perhaps, since it was already the 21st century, but better than nothing!

    Obama is more responsible for Qaddafi`s death than Reagan is.
    Is that a typo @FP? Did you mean "no more"? If so: lolz!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:00 am
    @ HolyGod, that is because nobody cares about Canada.
    Actually @BotFly: the radical Imams watched some hockey games and said "Holy camel poop! we`re not going NEAR those crazy Canadian mother-dratters!"
    True story...

    With this in mind it is clear to see that many of you have taken your behavior training directly from Obama.
    @HumanAction: THAT is the comment of the YEAR!
    Ka-ZINGA!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:08 am
    "Originally the base definition of "moderate`" it is a shame that they don`t exist anymore."

    I agree with you 100%. I have a really good friend that is a true libertarian. He`s not a partisan prick like the other phonies. Ever since Fox News stole the Tea Party from the libertarians their party has never been the same.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:39 am
    Libya wasn`t quiet for 25 years. They did plenty of other stuff after 1986, like taking USMC Col. Higgins hostage and later killing him. In fact the bombings prompted plenty of retaliatory kidnappings and killings against Americans and Brits as a direct response.

    So yeah.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:43 am
    CrakrJak: muslims are just too damn thin skinned over their so called `prophet` and their fanatical book.

    Funny - when other people talk about your `prophet` and fanatical book like that, it`s intolerant Christian-bashing.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:49 am
    @markust: I was calling you out on your BS - trying to pretend it is only the Liberals and Dems that are dividing this country
    It was my point to do this in order to illustrate the irony. I have very often seen self-declared liberals attempt to demonize conservatives for "dividing the country" yet here is another example of the exact opposite occuring.

    I think if you look back at previous threads you will find that I am a willing participant of intelligent conversation. I maintain the position that I will argue on the "level" of my opponent.

    Glenn Beck is a libertarian.
    What does this have to do with me? I find that you are incapable of making a point without declaring that your opponent isn`t a mindless bot influenced by some other entity. I have never had anything to do with Glenn Beck; the only person I listen to regularly is Jason Lewis.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:55 am
    @almightybob: I don`t recall @CrakrJak calling for Jihad, detonating bombs or storming embassies...

    He`s pointing out that "Muslims" use any excuse for violence: even the mere existance of Jews is enough!

    Saying "hands off my saviour!" and killing Diplomats are NOT the same thing! Seriously dude!
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 11:56 am
    @markust: Furthermore, if you look back, you will find that I am socially liberal. I believe that it is not the role of government to dictate morality.

    In addition, I believe in small government and federalist concepts. Legislation should be enacted at the lowest possible level and should affect all citizens equally.

    Would you care to explain to me how I am not a libertarian and how I am merely a "conservative in disguise"? I believe that I am a near-perfect fit for the definition of libertarian.

    Of course you won`t admit this. As I`ve stated before, your only argument is that I am some "mindless sheep" merely echoing the marching orders of some master. Strangely, it seems to be you who is incapable of producing an intelligent argument though; instead, you merely repeat the same old "Fox News" and "Glenn Beck" lines you`ve become so accustomed to.

    Don`t be a donkey.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Do believe they were responsible for the downing of the Lockerbie aircraft too
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Just read done thats been done, our weak arse government let the fecker who did it go,and that is covered in supposed bungs
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    It`s pointless to speak of Muslims in general. 23 % of all people in the world are Muslims. Some of them lead modern and developed states and have long trade history with the west.

    It`s absurd to let a bunch of punks represent 1,6 Billion people just because they are able to accomplish throwing a Molotov into a building while someone is filming.
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    evam-9 Female 18-29
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Bomb them again.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2012 at 9:38 pm
    @HumanAction, sorry about this line, "He`s not a partisan prick like the other phonies." I had to head out to a wedding after I wrote this. Half way down my hill it hit me that this was really going to look like I was attacking you personally. Didn`t mean it that way at all. I`m glad to hear that you are a true libertarian. I`m not going to comment on your other odd rant. I think that was just a well deserved knock back at me - not in the content of what you said but in the misconception of what I did.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2012 at 8:02 am
    `It`s pointless to speak of Muslims in general. 23 % of all people in the world are Muslims. Some of them lead modern and developed states and have long trade history with the west.

    It`s absurd to let a bunch of punks represent 1,6 Billion people just because they are able to accomplish throwing a Molotov into a building while someone is filming.`

    This. Do Anders Breivik and the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christians?
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    andybme Male 50-59
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    September 16, 2012 at 8:47 am
    It was Ghadafi that ordered the attacks back then and we retaliated. This time it was a rouge attack by a bunch of religious fanatics, supposedly. If so then there is a difference.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:14 am
    It was Ghadafi that ordered the attacks back then and we retaliated. This time it was a rouge attack by a bunch of religious fanatics, supposedly. If so then there is a difference.
    Right, but who helped those religious fanatics take over and kill Ghadafi?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:20 am
    Do Anders Breivik and the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christians?
    If they had hundreds of millions of violent barbarian followers rioting in the streets committing murder and mayhem and waging a global jihad against civilization, I guess in that case you would be able to say they do.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Good grief. Obama sought to play down tension BEFORE the uprising. Heck, I apologize for that idiot movie as well. "Innocence.." is akin to yelling "fire" in a theater. Absolutely inflammatory and Becile -or whatever he`s calling himself these days- is a frikken coward. Lets make him hold a red-carpet (as in blood, his) premiere in Kabul.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:31 am
    That doesn`t excuse the usual Al-Queda bozos looking for ANY excuse to kill Americans. Islam does need to police their own or continue to reap reprisals for their actions as well.
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    MrRugby Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:42 am
    The original argument makes no sense. Taking politics out of this i.e. Obama vs Reagan, the point is complete BS. Circumstances make the biggest difference. E.g. within a single sports match, you try different tactics depending on the situation of your own team and the opposition.
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    poonoodle Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:49 am
    Someone who says

    "It really shouldn`t surprise anyone though; most humans are simply chimps imitating the one they perceive to be the best among them. With this in mind it is clear to see that many of you have taken your behavior training directly from Obama."

    and then says

    "I find that you are incapable of making a point without declaring that your opponent isn`t a mindless bot influenced by some other entity."

    really should take notes or something.
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    scra Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    You seem to have it wrong, an interesting poster.
    Misuse and Misconception of Statistical Facts, and the timing of events, does not put blame on Obama, seems like the usual correlation and causation argument. Remember when ice-cream caused polio in kids haha. My educated friends, we must treat idiots with polite disagreement, mixed with a patient education of reality.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm
    The original argument makes no sense. Taking politics out of this i.e. Obama vs Reagan, the point is complete BS. Circumstances make the biggest difference. E.g. within a single sports match, you try different tactics depending on the situation of your own team and the opposition.
    So, how are those brilliant new tactics working out for Team Obama?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    September 19, 2012 at 6:07 am
    So, how are those brilliant new tactics working out for Team Obama? -------
    I would say swimmingly in comparison to team Romney or Bush or team any GOP team since they have no credibility in foreign affairs...

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