Evolution of Perpetual Motion, WORKING Free Energy

Submitted by: chalket 5 years ago in Science

What am I missing? Could this really work?
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Male 228
It takes power (an electro-mag) to start it. You could do it with a cycling armature and a regular magnet.

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Male 130
99% sure there`s a motor in the middle. No other reason for it to be that thick there, especially since less weight would let it turn faster.

Should make the rotor, at least the center part if the copper is necessary, out of clear plastic.

Wonder what he was doing at the end...
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Male 1,243
The one that started at 2:00 was awesome..
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Male 528
@greenbasterd you didn`t watch the whole thing did you.. bye
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Male 2,376
umm none of these are WORKING.. the wheel one where they move the magnet back out at the end of rotation looks interesting.. if they could make a device built in that mechanically moves the magnet at the end it would work.. my guess is that it would probly take more energy then that thing has behind it to do so.. so in conclusion none of these work.. bye
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Male 1,497
1983 called, they want their music back.
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Male 40,414
"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
LOLZ! @FoolsPrussia! Outstanding! You`ve made my day!

Right you are @OldOllie! (just ignore @madest, he`s stoned again, eh?) I wonder why they didn`t use his 3rd album:
Magnetic Fields (Les Chants Magnétiques)

I think one is "allowed" to get the machine started, but then it needs to produce "work" without stopping, or even slowing down... @mystery08 it needs to be "perpetual" and never stop!
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Male 977
Yeah... doubters would be surprised. While... yes... his/her inventions do lack what would be considered perpetual motion, but I believe they move us closer in that direction. I used to mess around with magnets and toy with the idea, but this person has conviction. That`s for sure.
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Male 199
using magnets do not make this a perpetual motion machine
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Male 4,793
" When it comes to beer, gravity doesnt applies "

Oh, is that why it sped up to a maximum speed? According to what I saw in the video, that thing would never stop. The first thing to wear down would probably be the friction points between all the moving parts.
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Male 400
@The magnet is being demagnetized so it will eventually stop and you will need to spend about 100 times the energy you gained manufacturing a new magnet.



Magnets only lose about 1% of their power per DECADE. I think he`ll be good to go for a while.
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Male 15,832
[quote]I enjoyed the 80s sci-fi movie music :D[/quote]
That was Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene - Oxygene, Pt. 4 (1976).

And it`s not perpetual motion. By moving the magnet in and out with his hand, he was putting energy into the system. Without that, it wouldn`t be able to keep moving even with no load. By using energy from the rotating magnet to lift the other magnet, the system would eventually run down. I would wager if you were to count frames between the magnet dropping, you would find it slowing down, that is unless they slowed the frame rate of the camera while they were filming it.

Oh, and madest, I would like to cordially invite you to eat a steaming plate of fresh pig $#!+.
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Female 1,478
I enjoyed the 80s sci-fi movie music :D
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Male 160
The magnet is being demagnetized so it will eventually stop and you will need to spend about 100 times the energy you gained manufacturing a new magnet.
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Male 593
One does not just ignore the LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS !!!
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Male 2,516
[quote] @patchouly
I thought that too, but as we continue to develop stronger and stronger magnets mightn`t this be "proof of concept" at least? [/quote]

@chalket: That would just delay how long it would take to stop, but hey, the longer it runs the better right? angrynerd explained it well enough.
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Male 2,516
[quote] It is cool, but as soon as you strap a generator to it, the magnetic resistance of the generator will drain the kinetic energy and eventually stop it from turning.

Sorry folks. The laws of physics still stand. No free energy here. [/quote]

patchouly nailed it.
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Male 2,306
Yay! Let`s try to break the laws of physics...NOT.
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Female 1,894
MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?!
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Male 303
@RickS: "It is getting energy from Gravity"
Gravity is not an energy source. There is gravitational potential energy, but would be useless for this design as any motion gained from the falling side is equal to the potential gained on the rising side.

Perpetual motion machines are impossible, I can`t believe people are STILL at this.
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Male 3,445
This is actually a pretty beautiful design, but yes the laws of thermodynamics still apply.
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Male 7,378
OldOllie, You watching? That`s a brilliant mind.
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Male 3,327
"just that it can run itself continuously without energy input, which this appears to be doing. "

Technically, it`s not. It is getting energy from Gravity as the bar magnets falls down.

Also, don`t show this to Insane Clown Posse, it will freak them right out!
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Male 186
No, it can`t work. It violates the second law of thermodynamics.

@MrTwidget, when subjected to a changing magnetic field like the magnets are here, they lose their magnetism much faster.
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Male 17,512
`Over Unity` is a pipe dream, nothing more.
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Male 1,399
And by "WORKING," op means "NOT WORKING."

Learn some science.
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Male 458
It`s not perpetual motion because the magnets are producing force, and the magnets will probably wear out over time meaning it is actually losing energy over time.

This is just taking energy from an EMF field and turning it into motion.
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Male 36
It is somewhat real. These machines are built using extremely low friction bearings or other points of rotation. The wheel would spin for a very long time by itself without an external magnet. Eventually these machines do stop, and no work can be extracted from them if they are to keep running
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Male 2,711
@patchouly
I thought that too, but as we continue to develop stronger and stronger magnets mightn`t this be "proof of concept" at least?

@Cajun247
Bearings can be replaced. "Perpetual motion" doesn`t imply that the machine must LAST forever... just that it can run itself continuously without energy input, which this appears to be doing.

@Langer
Batteries? Where do you see batteries? Those are permanent rare-earth magnets.

@Kain1
You sound like a zealot, "I don`t know WHY this can`t work, but my philosophy says it is impossible so it must be fake!" Why not put a little thought into a problem before posting your assertions, eh?
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Male 11,739
It could "work" as a conversation piece on someone`s desk. It couldn`t work to power a car or train or anything productive.
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Male 3,445
In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
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Male 15,510
Quick! make your own before they "silence" him!
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Male 1,471
This is a scam, pure and simple. Perpetual motion machines are impossible. I`m not exactly sure how they rigged it, but trust me, they did rig it with some sort of energy source, an electric motor or something like that.

Perpetual motion contradicts both the law of energy conservation and the second law of thermodynamics..
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Male 4,167
cute school project
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Male 1,497
Those were magnets.
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Male 2,552
I`m really bad at catching this kind of stuff out, but I`m having a difficult time debunking this. Stick a SIMPLE generator to it and see what it does; but make it a simple one, like a magnet spinning coupled directly to a single bulb or something, something that can be shown to not be a power source in itself. `Til then, I`ll just watch from the sidelines.
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Male 795
@Cajun247

With this logic my car is perpetual, until it runs out of gas.
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Male 795
@5cats

Rare earth magnets, such as neodymium, are estimated to hold a magnetic field for 400 years. Heat would be the only issue I can see.
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Male 2,670
Damned clever. Not sure it will ever actually generate any power, but damned clever all the same.
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Male 399
not to mention the electrical charge needed for all those batteries, and subsequent batteries that will replace those first ones
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Male 40,414
Since it`s based on magnets, it will eventually "lose magnetism" and stop. You`d need massively powerful magnets to get any "work" out of it, and it`s not perpetual.
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Male 392
This is genius!
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Male 1,059
Not sure exactly why, but I`m sure this won`t work. The reason may be found here. There are lots of interesting attempts listed on that site, including some magnetic wheels, but I don`t see this particular one offhand. Perhaps this one is new and should be submitted to the Musem of Unworkable Devices for analysis. There`s a flaw there, trust me.
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Male 10,855
Interesting, but the bearings would still wear out. So no, not really a perpetual motion machine.
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Male 273
"you can`t explain that"
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Male 4,745
It is cool, but as soon as you strap a generator to it, the magnetic resistance of the generator will drain the kinetic energy and eventually stop it from turning.

Sorry folks. The laws of physics still stand. No free energy here.
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Male 2,711
Link: Evolution of Perpetual Motion, WORKING Free Energy [Rate Link] - What am I missing? Could this really work?
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