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73 Responses to Wells Fargo Bank Fires One Of Its Employees

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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:16 am
    Link: Wells Fargo Bank Fires One Of Its Employees - Why? Because his child got cancer.
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    mesovortex Male 30-39
    458 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 7:28 am
    This is not an isolated incident. Twelve years ago somethings similar happened to my dad because the company found it was cheaper to pay disability than to pay a full salary AND cover his health insurance.

    Wells Fargo has billions of dollars. It could have afforded to pay for his child`s surgery and still stayed afloat. What ever happened to doing the right thing?
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:28 am
    I would have burned that mother down!
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    katluver Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:31 am
    I give the main reporter who spoke through most of that... a lot of credit... Very moving, and it really does make you think.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:41 am
    Well it`s sure good that these noble private companies care more about your health than the bottom line. ;-)
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    panzerlancer Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:45 am
    that guy is a hero.....
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:47 am

    If anyone ever had a good excuse to go postal, it`s this guy.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:53 am
    I see a mass shooting on the horizon.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Is this one of the banks we had to bail out? If I had an account there I`d close it but I go with credit unions.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:04 am
    Makes you sick but does anybody really think Uncle Sam is going to do any better?
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    davmor Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:09 am
    Sickening
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:16 am
    She`s correct, corporations don`t have souls. But neither does the government. The same people who behave badly in pursuit of profit can behave badly in pursuit of power. Bottom line: Regulation isn`t the solution because it rewards those who pursue power. Boycotting Wells-Fargo is the solution because it punishes those who pursue profit.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:19 am
    While it sounds horrible on the surface, we only hear one side.

    I hope to follow this one in the courts and see how it turns out. If Wells Fargo did to this, this guy should end up owning a couple banks.

    Consider on thing, `not filling out time record correctly` can also mean `Falsifying documents`. If you`re a lawyer and you don`t fill out your time record correctly, you can be charged with wire fraud and do prison time.
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    tobyvictory Male 70 & Over
    407 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 8:24 am
    Wells Fargo just like GE didn`t pay any taxes in 2011.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:31 am
    DromEd: "Makes you sick but does anybody really think Uncle Sam is going to do any better?"

    One of the provisions of Obamacare is that you can`t be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions, so...yes.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:33 am
    It`s a sad story of corporate greed and possibly murder for money, but I couldn`t help but chuckle at youtube`s auto-captions. Better than Benny Lava.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 8:37 am
    this outrages me. not the story but that people still listen to the young turks and actually think it`s a legitimate new story. just because you have a suit and a green screen doen`t mean you`re actual worth listening to.
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    Modwain Male 40-49
    336 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 8:39 am
    thats why healthcare should be covered by teh state, and corparations need to pay the state for healthcare ensurance.. but yeah, i know, thats socialism, thats like swearing, right?
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:06 am
    "One of the provisions of Obamacare is that you can`t be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions, so...yes."

    If you think this is in any way sustainable or viable then I think you`ve officially turned your brain off. Just imagine what would happen to fire insurance if people could not legally be denied insurance due to pre-existing fires.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:12 am
    @jetrebowski
    Umm, this guy was covered but then screwed over and denied. (at least on the story`s face) The same thing will happen under a govt. plan. There`s no way in H E double hockey sticks that any govt. plan is going to cover 100% of medical problems. It`s one thing to "Guarantee coverage." It`s a whole `nuther thing to actually provide it.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:12 am
    @AntEconomist

    And at least when a company relentlessly pursues profit, it can only due so by finding people who will hand over their money willingly. When a government relentlessly pursues power, it can fund its endeavors through force.

    A really good analogy is believing that Sauron (corporations) are evil, and believing that using The One Ring (government) is the solution, when in fact only way to disable Sauron is to destroy The One Ring so that he doesn`t have the _ability_ to enslave the population.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:26 am
    @intrigid
    `A really good analogy` Not really. Besides, hand money over willingly to corporations? If I want water, power or fuel I have to pay some corporation or other.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:32 am
    @intrigid: A rather simplistic analogy actually. You`re forgetting the part where after the One Ring is destroyed and Sauron is defeated, that without the protection offered by The Ring, the bands of wildmen, orcs, trolls etc. utilize the lack of centralized authority to seize power for themselves. Power will corrupt no matter the form, and those with weapons will never hesitate to use them on those with none.
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:34 am
    @LordJim: The reason you "have" to hand your money over isn`t because the corporation is threatening you. It is because you have an intense need for the thing it offers. In short, what`s compelling you is your circumstances not the corporation.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 9:40 am
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Saw Young Turks, puked, then hit stop.

    This is a horrible story nonetheless, and Wells Fargo should be ashamed.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:09 am
    So this guy lost his job, his daughter, and his livelihood because he...

    Couldn`t remember the exact minutes he worked? Probably under the stress of, you know, a DAUGHTER WITH CANCER.

    Why the f*ck don`t they have a digital system for clocking in and out for f*ck`s sake?

    On top of that, if he was just an employee, nine times out of ten his supervisor was the one who actually filed the time sheets and all, which means his supervisor wasn`t doing the job of actually checking them.

    ALSO: The hospital just CANCELLED a LIFE-SAVING surgery days before the procedure because he lost his insurance? Really? And people wonder why we`re trying to get rid of profit mongering in healthcare...

    I wanna see how this case plays out, because if it`s as bad as it sounds, this guy should own a few branch offices by the time it`s over.

    "The cost of life just seems to get cheaper..."
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    toqr Male 18-29
    199 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 10:09 am
    And yet so many people are against free health care?
    What the drat is wrong with you, you sick drating drats...??!
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
    339 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 10:16 am
    @togr: It`s not "free" health care. It`s "alternatively paid for" health care. As in (1) you don`t pay the whole bill, someone else is forced to pay on your behalf, and (2) you partially pay in the form of limited access instead of in dollars.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:25 am
    The hospital just CANCELLED a LIFE-SAVING surgery days before the procedure because he lost his insurance?

    This part makes me think. There is a law that a hospital must save you and stabilize you regardless of your ability to pay.

    I`m wondering if the whole truth is being told here.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 10:28 am
    I work with a guy in the UK who has just returned to work following treatment for prostate cancer and he has been given a level one warning. Three and you`re out.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 10:30 am
    @AJ: I believe the law only states that they must stabilize you, and if this procedure only had a chance of curing her it likely wouldn`t apply.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6644 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Leeches and maggots still have a useful part to play in health care, but it`s a mistake to put them in charge of it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:33 am
    @Patch: You may be right. Either way, Wells Fargo are dicks. We really need the whole story.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:37 am
    @AJ: The whole story would help indeed. However I don`t see many possible avenues of Wells not coming off as a bunch of dicks.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 10:51 am
    My question is, why didn`t he take the child to a Shriner`s hospital, or a non profit hospital?

    They would have treated her, without cost. Did he let her die to make a point?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:04 am
    toqr-"And yet so many people are against free health care?"

    There`s no such thing.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:17 am
    auburnjunky

    yes because those Non-profits have ENDLESS resources with endless doctor`s donating their time and they do not have thousands of people lining up for free services...

    you really think this FATHER did not do everything he could to save his daughter?

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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:18 am
    I am a Wells customer...NO MORE.

    The healthcare act BTW will stop this crap from happening.

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:22 am
    I didn`t say that. We just don`t have the whole story.

    drat you Jamie. Take back that poo you said about my kids you drating non-nice individual.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6644 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 11:43 am
    @auburnjunky
    `Did he let her die to make a point? `

    You just lost the right to call anyone a non-nice individual. Twat.

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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:44 am
    This is so dumb. They don`t know how insurance works or COBRA works. I own a business and my goal is to get my employees the best healthcare the business can. If a business acts like they think it`s acting, then people won`t do business with them. This is just corporate hating class warfare crap. You get benefits when you have a job, you lose them when you`re fired, get over it.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
    1511 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 11:47 am
    I`ve been fired, I purchased my own health insurance for myself and my wife. Even with pre-existing conditions, because COBRA is setup to allow you to do that. We already have regulations in place. And Obamacare will make it even easier to get your own health insurance. Be responsible, people.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:52 am
    It was only a question LordJim. The day we stop asking questions, is the day we cease to know anything.

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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:57 am
    `You get benefits when you have a job, you lose them when you`re fired, get over it. `

    Missing the point entirely.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    We don`t know WHY he was fired. We know what The Young Turks (non-nice individual liberals who spin stories to further their agenda) tell us.

    He could have grabbed a woman`s breast or something, but unable to prove that, they fired him for his time sheet.

    We. Don`t. Know.

    Plus, COBRA is readily available for anyone who loses their job. You can contact them, they don`t have to contact you with it.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    @AJ: While one cannot deny the possibility of an alternative reason such as you suggest, it doesn`t look that way. He had several meetings with company officials who questioned him about his daughter`s health and the cost of her medical bills and such. Then, three days before the operation, he`s suddenly fired. Even *if* this man was bad at his job or was on the track to being fired, it`s still unbelievably cold to do it right before a surgery that could have saved his daughter`s life. But I guess saying you have sympathy for him is good enough.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    After reading my last post (specifically the last sentence) it might seem as though it was directed at you, which it wasn`t; purely on the shoulders of Wells.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    I have total sympathy, and I think Wells is a drating piece of poo organization for firing him at that particular time....

    The fact still remains, we don`t have all the facts.

    I guess it`s my fault for feeling that way though. I should know better than to rely on T.Y.T. to give me an unbiased view.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Maybe it was a case of "We have this reason to fire you, but we don`t want to because of your daughter." Then they weighed all the options, and were presented with no choice.

    Sorry. I am programmed to question everything lol..
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    boogarcym Male 40-49
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    August 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Fooked up system where a young girl`s life saving operation depends on her Dad`s medical insurance. First world country apparently
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    sr3nity Male 70 & Over
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    August 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    I hate this show. "OMG REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL VOTE FOR OBAMA!" No Cenk they are all evil, when are you going to understand that?
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    Why was the surgery cancelled?

    Hospitals can`t deny any patient for any reason, and as long as the guy is paying off the bills, even if it`s only $50 a month, the hospital cannot put a lean against his house, or whatever.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    Hospitals can`t deny any patient for any reason

    This is what struck me.

    They wouldn`t have cancelled the surgery. They would have billed him out the ass.
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    jops360 Male 30-39
    689 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    This is what struck me.

    They wouldn`t have cancelled the surgery. They would have billed him out the ass.

    actually they would have asked for a portion up front normally around 20% maby more. also it could be considered an elective surgery, then they would have to come up with the money up front. insurance is a national scam, opperated by the hospitals, the insurance companies and big businesses. all it takes to be denied is a misspelling or impropper wording. they dont care about keeping people healthy anymore only the bottom dollar. we need free health coverage, time to get the almighty dollar out of the way of peoples health. just like everything else money just brings greed. look at anything that has vast amounts of money involved, they are run by corrupt people that only want more for themselves and less for everyone else. government, big business, hospitals, schools, unions, they are all the same.
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    jops360 Male 30-39
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    August 10, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    duckboy - that is only in the emergency room and as soon as she is stable they would let her go. she had cancer, in her condition there is no stable only surgery or death.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4345 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    omg, the subtitles on this were shockingly inaccurate!
    Plus, everyone knows cancer is good for you and you should be fired if you get it, or if your kid gets it. GET VACCINATED NOW!
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6644 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    `Sorry. I am programmed to question everything lol..`

    lol?

    Don`t apologise if you don`t mean it. You are not programmed. And lol?
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
    1243 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    You know how you stop this?

    YOu go to your little white house in numbers and you say "DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!! ....."

    And you continue. And you grow in numbers. And you don`t stop until you`ve taken back your government.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    August 10, 2012 at 11:25 pm
    wow...... just wow
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    August 11, 2012 at 3:18 am
    @TheGuySmiley

    Great plan, except for the fact that "The Presidency" can detain anybody he wants for the rest of their lives with no cause for doing so. Worse than them shooting you.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:19 am
    Also, this is why you don`t work with a shi*ty bank.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 5:25 am
    TKD_Master:That`s why you go in numbers. 1000 would be a good start, if it could reach 50k in a month or less, that would be amazing. Whatever happened to the home of the brave? Oh that`s right they sold out to the love for money, and became sselfish and apathic.. shame that only 40 or so years ago the people were still brave.. but today..
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    willwillam2 Female 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 7:44 am
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    MountainBord Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 9:47 am
    FHAK’D
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:09 am
    Un-f**kin`-believable. I`d be looking for some serious payback.
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    Ozmose Male 30-39
    448 posts
    August 11, 2012 at 11:28 am
    I hope the guy marches into Bank`s board room with an assault rifle an ******* mows them all down.
    God know they have it coming.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    August 11, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    Where are all you con pieces of poo now? Motherdraters.
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    So now we can accuse the American banks of legitimately killing American children. I`m surprised you guys aren`t out with pitchforks and torches down there.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    August 12, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    the guy was reporting that he worked more hours than he actually did. I don`t understand why someone wouldn`t be fired for that.
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    Palfas Male 30-39
    411 posts
    August 13, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Single payer, or just straight up universal health care. Health care, life saving health care more specifically, should always be not for profit.

    For you R-tards out there, not for profit is not the same thing as "the doctors won`t get paid." Not for profit means the hospital system doesn`t take in additional money beyond what it costs to run the place. In other words, a bunch of greedy drats don`t get rich off you getting sick.
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    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    August 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    Yup, the UK economy, one of the strongest in the world, is currently being buried under just such a scheme. The people want the NHS but they don`t want to pay for it, go look it up, it`s a scary sight.
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    Kalon Male 13-17
    368 posts
    August 16, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    Another reason why we need universal health care.

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