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Date: 08/11/12 07:16 AM

46 Responses to The Truth About Assault Weapons

  1. Profile photo of pacojohnson
    pacojohnson Male 18-29
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    August 8, 2012 at 7:16 am
    Link: The Truth About Assault Weapons - Police officer shares his opinions on semi-automatics firearms.
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    Hatern Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 7:34 am
    Is this the Gun expert from Auction Hunters?, just a lot younger
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Well stated. Any attempts to ban or restrict "assault rifles" without addressing the fireams action would be in vain. Those who cannot differentiate among the actions should not involve themselves.
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    Whitemn Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Same goes with the Internet with the current Senate. To the post, it is illegal to own a fully automatic rifle in California, but many other states require simple ATF registration or a much more demanding list of forms and stuff.
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    bigfatdynamo Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:13 am
    This piece was very well articulated and demonstrated. Good on the po-po for trying to help out the every-man.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Simple; ban all guns, all replica and deactivated guns and toys with the appearance of a firearm. Also weaponised dildoes.
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    artmunki Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Ah right, so it`s only fully-automatic assault weapons that are designed and used to kill people then, right? Semi-automatics are just harmless noise-makers then? No?
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Uploaded in 2007, originally filmed back when ET came out. So, let me get this straight, Captain Obvious. You mean to tell me (805 times) that a semi-automatic is one pull of the trigger, one round? Can you please state that a few dozen more times?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 9:07 am
    I`m not part of the ban all guns crowd. My brother, uncle and many of my friends are responsible gun owners. But I do have a couple questions. First with the semi-automatic do you need to take the long pause he did between each shot or could you get one or more rounds more off? Second what is the difference between a semi-automatic and a regular gun or are they the same except the cartridges hold more bullets?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 9:13 am
    @Draculya: I`m glad you thought to include weaponised dildoes in your comment. A lesser mind might have overlooked them. =^.^=
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
    @markust123: It depends on the firearm. Most semi-automatics will allow you to shoot much faster than he is in this clip. You are essentially restricted to the speed that you can pull the trigger.

    Also, the gun has little to do with the capacity. Most manufacturers produce magazines with varying capacities that can all be used with the same firearm.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Actually, I should be careful to state that the capacity bit does not apply to some weapons. For example, obviously a revolver is limited in capacity regardless. (just covering myself from the nitpickers)
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Thanks @HumanAction. So what is the difference between a semi-automatic riffle and a regular riffle? Or is there? Also from a quick internet search I learned about bump firing. What is the difference in bump firing a semi-automatic and an actual automatic? Seams like with a little prep work you get the same results.

    FYI. I am not trying to get to some point. I will keep my opinions to myself. I am just curious.
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    maxxim Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:24 am
    A semi-auto is a regular rifle, they are one in the same.
    Bump firing is FAR more dangerous than full auto fire, as it is completely uncontrolled. In full auto, the full sequence of events is controlled mechanically and precisely. But with bump firing you are intentionally disrupting that sequence on a semi auto, so as to induce mis-fires. This can cause all sorts of issues such as out of battery ignition, which can cause a gun to "explode".
    Also, bumpfiring is far less controllable than a full auto rifle, so the bullets don`t necessarily go where you want them too.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Draculya-"Simple; ban all guns, all replica and deactivated guns and toys with the appearance of a firearm."

    Uh.....No.

    markust123-"except the cartridges hold more bullets?"

    A `cartridge` is made up of the following: Casing, Powder, Primer and Projectile (bullet).

    This is a cartridge:

    So it`s pretty much 1 cartridge = 1 bullet.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 10:33 am
    @markust123: When most people think of a "regular rifle" I think they are imagining a semi-automatic. The other really popular style is a bolt-action, where the operator needs to manually eject the spent casing by pulling a bolt back in between every shot. This is different from a semi-auto that uses an ejector to automaticcally eject the casing.

    The difference with bump firing is that the operator still needs to make a trigger pull for each bullet, they just manipulate the recoil to do it. A fully automatic weapon only needs one trigger pull.

    The huge problem with bump firing is accuracy. It doesn`t matter much if you`re going to be spraying into a crowd, but it is very hard to maintain accuracy; semi-autos aren`t built to be used as fully automatics.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:22 am
    As he points out, at least 3 times in the first 3 minutes, the "press" and the "news media" are the ones who repeatedly get it WRONG! Dispite being "information professionals" they continue to get it WRONG after decades of being told what`s what!
    8:00 See? Same rifle, different looks!
    Well worth the time to watch the whole thing! Thanks OP!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:24 am
    So what is it called that the cartridges go into? A clip?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Thanks @HumanAction. That is what I thought. I`ve only fired the rifles where you manually eject the spent casings.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:34 am
    Thanks guys. I`m learning a lot. last question is the term "assault weapon" just something the government made up to scare people into banning semi-automatics? Or does the NRA now recognize the term?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:37 am
    @markust123 - the cartridges (rounds) go into a magazine. People always call them "clips" but they`re wrong, it`s a magazine. You can thank pop-culture (movies, music, etc) for that.


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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:44 am
    @markust123: Well, this is where it gets interesting and confusing. In general, you can think of a magazine as the tool used to provide rounds to the firearm. A clip is used to provide rounds to the magazine.

    The purpose of any clip is to reduce the amount of time it takes to reload the magazine. However, in most cases, you can directly load the rounds into the magazine without a clip - it just takes longer.

    That being said, there are two types of clips: stripper clips and en-bloc clips. Stripper clips are used to quickly dump rounds into a magazine. For instance, an AR-15 magazine typically holds 30 rounds, which take awhile to load. You can use 3 strippers of ten to very quickly load the magazine. En-bloc clips are much rarer and different - they stay in the magazine instead of dumping the rounds in. I know the M1 does this, but I can`t think of any others.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 11:47 am
    As for "assault rifles", I don`t think they have a set definition for them. I know most of the people I talk to consider them to be burst or fully-automatic weapons.

    A burst weapon is where one trigger pull results in a set number (greater than 1) of rounds being expelled. The M-16 has a 3-round burst mode where every trigger pull results in 3 rounds being fired.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 12:07 pm
    HumanAction-"As for "assault rifles", I don`t think they have a set definition for them."

    Actually, `Assault rifle` has a very strict definition: "A fully automatic weapon that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

    The term the media LOVE to use is `Assault WEAPON`, which has not set definition other than it has the cosmetic appearance of an assault rifle.

    See, this is a knife:



    And this is an ASSAULT Weapon (knife):

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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    to me the term Assault rifle refers to any weapon that is not meant for defensive purpose but is clearly designed for offensive capability and designed to inflict maximum damage on humans and nothing else.

    an AR-15 may be semi-auto but it is designed to kill humans, kill lots of humans. it is not suited for hunting in the least and as a hunter, I would NEVER considered using this weapon for that purpose.

    it is too large to use for home protection. A handgun is much better suited for close quarters.

    also, I do not need a AR-15 to stop someone else with a gun, even if they have an AR-15. WHy? because I am trying to stop ONE person.

    the AR-15 will mow down several people quickly but I only again, need to stop one person. The handgun would be fine and I have actually take PC832 Fire Arm Control classes over the years and trust me, in the right hands, the handgun will be the weapon of choice for protection.

    AR-15s are designed to kill people
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    scheckydamon Male 60-69
    716 posts
    August 11, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    You can have my wife`s weaponised dildo when you can pry it from her cold, dead Va-JJ.
    You`ll also have to get past her 9mm PoopTube Shooter. Her farts are mean!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    jamie76-"to me the term Assault rifle refers to any weapon that is not meant for defensive...yadda yadda yadda."

    Well, what it means to YOU is irrelevant. There is a strict definition as to what an Assault Rifle is, and your opinion has no bearing on it.

    jamie76-"it is too large to use for home protection."

    Again, your opinion is irrelevant. Some people think it`s too small, some think it`s just right.

    jamie76-"AR-15s are designed to kill people."

    No, AR-15s are designed to throw a 1.9 ounce, .224" diameter bit of metal 2,000 feet downrange at 3,200 feet per second as accurately as possible. Nothing more. What an individual chooses to put in path of that bit of metal is entirely up to the individual.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    @MeGrendel: Actually, `Assault rifle` has a very strict definition: "A fully automatic weapon that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."
    Fair enough - I did not know this. I did properly express my view as an opinion and not as fact when I stated "I don`t think". This phrase declares the following statement to be an opinion and not fact.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    HumanAction-"I did properly express my view as an opinion and not as fact when I stated "I don`t think"."

    Yes you did. I was just letting you know there is a definition, not being confrontational.

    `Assault weapon`, on the other hand, is opened to interpretation.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    handgun is much better suited for close quarters.

    Here`s an "assault weapon" that`s effective in close range with proper ammunition:


    Called the Atchisson Assault Shotgun, 12 gauge.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    the AR-15 will mow down several people quickly but I only again, need to stop one person.

    Actually that depends on where you hit. If you hit an artery then yes they fall down from rapid blood loss. Bullets do not have the momentum necessary to stop a charging target in their tracks. Interestingly enough only 1/20 victims of gun injuries die. Most even go on to retain ALL of their limbs. Which is why historically, since the advent of gunpowder at least, injuries have always dwarfed deaths in almost every battle.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    On top of which contrary to popular belief "headshots" are NOT 100% fatal (at least with small caliber weapons).
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    @MeGrendel: No worries - just wanted to make sure everyone knew I wasn`t trying to portray myself as an expert.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 11, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    People who don`t already know this are willfully ignorant. They don`t want to be confused by facts that conflict with their preconceived uninformed opinions.

    "Guns are bad, m`kay?"
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 11, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    I concur: "Assault Rifle" is a weapon capable of full automatic fire. Unlike a "machine gun" is has a clip, not a chain feed for the bullets. (Machine guns can have clips too, that gets into the territory of "Automatic Rifles")

    @MeGrendel is right as well: anything that POTENTIALLY may harm someone is "an assault weapon" eh? A weapon with which one could be assaulted...



    I just love that gif!!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 11, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    Pew! Pew! Pew!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    OldOllie-"Guns are bad, m`kay?"

    Sorry, incorrect. People who believe this are willfully ignorant.

    Guns are neither `good` nor `bad`, as they are inanimate objects. They are just fabricated devices of metal, plastic and various other materials and chemicals.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    August 11, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    Cool. I`ve learned a lot. Now I just need someone to explain this.
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    IrishJesus Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2012 at 4:34 am
    The AA-12 is such a goofy looking shotgun. Give me a SPAS-12!
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    wiscesq Male 30-39
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    August 12, 2012 at 5:35 am
    REALLY OLD. The "recent" Stockton Massacre he refers to happened in 1989.
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    MrLill Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I fully support the 2nd amendment. I also don`t blame devices for human error.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 12, 2012 at 9:33 am
    @MeGrendel: OldOllie-"Guns are bad, m`kay?"
    @OldOllie is being sarcastic, eh?

    @Squirlz4: I can explain! It`s a Siamese! lolz! They`re... odd.
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    I did my senior project on the assault weapon ban and he pretty much showed exactly what i did. Most of the bans that was banned with that law where cosmetic changes and did NOTHING to stop what they where trying to prevent. I made a 10-22 rifle into a illegal assault rifle under this law. Most of what they called assault weapon characteristics were cosmetic changes.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2012 at 6:53 am
    AR-15`s are top notch target rifles nice try jamie76.

    En-bloc clips are fun!! Only thing I can think of that uses them is the M1 Garand I own one.....

    After the last round it ejects the clip too and make a lovely PIIINNNGG! noise.
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    An-egg Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2012 at 9:53 am
    So what would this fall under?
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    KAKABAKA Male 30-39
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    August 14, 2012 at 3:31 am
    im from san jose ca.

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