Rape Similar To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago

Or so says Tom Smith, another republican candidate up for Senate that seems to have put his foot in his mouth.
There are 39 comments:
Male 75
if you are ever raped, he probably votes republican.
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Male 884
It is no surprise that he is confused, he was a Democrat until last year.
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Male 2,357
@patchgrabber: I just don`t see it that way. Here`s a quote (what I assume to be the statements in question?) from our source:

[quote]However, he stumbled when asked about how he would convince a daughter or granddaughter who was the victim of a rape that she should carry her potential child to term.

Mr. Smith replied that he "lived something similar to that with my own family, and she chose life. I commend her for that."[/quote]
To me, he is comparing the act of convincing his daughter to keep the child to the act of convincing a hypothetical daughter who was the victim of a rape to keep the child. In my opinion, he does not directly compare the act of rape, only the act of convincing the mother to keep the child.
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Male 4,283
So instead of being happy for his daughter and her boyfriend he had the same emotional reaction as he would if she had been raped, all because they were not married? What a horrible father.
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Male 5,811
@HA: He denied that getting pregnant out of wedlock is similar to getting pregnant from rape, but he DID compare the emotional trauma of both of these as similar.
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Male 7,378
[quote]And there are waiting lists for parents who would love to adopt the little rape babies. So that argument doesn`t fly. Is the term rape-baby politically incorrect?[/quote] -----------
Yeah that`s why there are orphanages and foster homes to house these unwanted babies until the adoptive mothers step forward. Rape babies to the fore!

@LordJim, EXACTLY!
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Male 7,123
If you are pro-life then don`t have an abortion. Don`t force your choices onto the women who are actually affected.
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Male 1,511
@madest, I`m not a republican, I`m libertarian.
I`m saying, if a pro-lifer thinks a baby is human at conception, except babies from rape, that doesn`t make sense. Okay?
And there are waiting lists for parents who would love to adopt the little rape babies. So that argument doesn`t fly. Is the term rape-baby politically incorrect?
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Male 334
dingdingdong.. he said "no. no.no. but.." and i teach just about everyone that a but after a yes or a no means basicly the opposite. for example.. Did you like that movie? yes, but it was to long. Or do you like icecream? no, but i think i can eat one once a day.

And yes, arguing with the examples is obviously easy but the principle stays true, try it out... a "no, but.." implies a yes and a "yes, but.." implies a no.
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Male 7,378
Republicans can`t stop stickin their foot in it.
Like this:
[quote]Also, kind of on a side note, I don`t understand how someone can be pro-life, except when raped. WTF? If you`re pro-life, then how does rape make the child worth less? They need to at least stay consistent.[/quote] ----------
Kind of like imagining everyone being forced to have every baby no matter what and not wanting to pay any more in taxes for supporting unwanted babies.
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Male 2,384
and people vote for people like this
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Male 14,773
Not unless she`s 5.
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Male 1,511
That`s not what he said. He was just explaining the toll on him as a father for having a daughter get pregnant out of wedlock, which could happen in a rape case too, and that was hard enough without the rape. When he was asked if he was comparing the two, he said "No, no, no."
Freaking people taking things out of context and to the extreme. Of course he wasn`t saying rape = pregnancy out of wedlock.

Also, kind of on a side note, I don`t understand how someone can be pro-life, except when raped. WTF? If you`re pro-life, then how does rape make the child worth less? They need to at least stay consistent.

If the baby`s viable (25 weeks?), you shouldn`t be able to kill it, seems straight forward to me. Otherwise, why stop there...2 month old cries too much? Just kill him. What`s the difference?
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Male 13,624
Fwoggie2 -
talking about America here, highly religious, Us in Europe are more laid back on such
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Male 13,624
My partner is a midwife, and out of complete ignorance, and scientific knowledge, I asked this question, and pointed her to this post, she said and I quote ``fecking twats`` nuff said I think
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Male 2
@DrProfessor

Don`t forget, now it`s two weeks before conception in Arizona.
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Male 3,894
Ok, let`s keep rehashing the republican platform. They believe that from the moment of conception, the mass of cells inside you is a living human being. Therefore there is no situation in which you should be allowed to exterminate it, be it rape, inconvenience, health, or anything else.

I don`t agree, but I just don`t understand why people keep getting outraged every time they repeat something they`ve always believed.
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Male 4,893
And exaggeration is similar to lying.
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Male 7,898
Markust123

"I think it is still the 1950`s in certain parts of America."

They want it to be. That is what they mean by code phrases like "a return to traditional values". They want women in the kitchen, homos in the closet, hispanics in mexico, and blacks in the ghetto. They reflect on the 50s and early 60s as being the greatest time in American history.
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Male 884
What a dumbass! How can they be similar when rape victims can`t get pregnant because the woman has an off switch for her ovaries that she can press if she is raped? Sheesh!
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Male 2,357
[quote]Asked if having a child out of wedlock is similar to rape, he replied: "No, no, no, but put yourself in a father`s position, yes. It is similar. This isn`t ..." He trailed off, then continued: "But back to the original [question], I`m pro-life, period."[/quote]
Am I the only one who read this and thought, this isn`t at all what is being claimed he said? Seems like a massive reach to me as he clearly states that - to the woman involved - it is not similar. Did I misunderstand this?

That being said, the belief that life begins at conception is absurd (in my opinion).
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Male 4,283
I think it is still the 1950`s in certain parts of America.
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Female 7,832
Mmm- yeah, but to refer to it as a child out of wedlock?? Marriage is not exactly something I would want my children to do- a big waste of money for no good reason. To be honest- single parents are fine too- it is just this multiple father stuff that is worrisome.
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Male 3,575
well it is
just like Vehicular homicide is the same as fishing without license
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Male 2,578
Madduck, I will refer you to what I just wrote. The people who should care are the people who care about fighting poverty and social disarray. That`s a problem this creates.

Nobody really cares if they`re not married, as long as they`re together. But if the father is delinquent, or if he`s unknown - this is generally bad for society as a whole.

But I don`t care about defending this guy. I just want to highlight the distinctions here.
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Female 7,832
Child out of wedlock??? Who even thinks that sort of thing these days, who cares??????
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Male 2,578
Keep in mind that not all children out of wedlock are equal. Some are had while the parents are in a loving relationship (this is common in Norway). But in America that`s not usually how it happens. For instance, something like 70% of African American children don`t have fathers around. No amount of government money will cure that epidemic.

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Male 187
Well, at least he realized right away that he had put his foot in his mouth, as opposed to people having to tell him after. Props for that. Probably a case of his mouth working faster than his brain. Freudian slip? Perhaps.

"Teen moms" aside, I think we`ve reached the point in this country where having a child out of wedlock isn`t really that big a deal anymore - especially when people are waiting until their late 20s, 30s, or even 40s to get married (or just not getting married, period). So comparing a relationship where two consenting adults become pregnant with a violent, thoughtless act by a rapist is kinda stupid. If my daughter were 25 and pregnant by a long-time boyfriend, I may be disappointed that she didn`t adhere to my religious views, but it would be NOTHING like what I would feel if she were raped and became pregnant as a result.

In short, he`s a moron. Less of one than Akin. But still a moron.
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Male 125
All politicians are like this, normal Americans don`t get into politics.
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Male 3,909
@Fwoggie2 - It`s not just America, there are no "normal" politicians anywhere on this planet.
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Female 9,400
These men seem to know a lot about us women.
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Male 1,803
America, where the hell do you find these people? Where are all the normal Americans in politics???
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Male 3,445
I don`t understand how these guys ever get any votes.
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Male 2,578
I hate this election. Two rather equally dumb sides sniping at each other, with the supporters of each side literally thinking they were anointed by some divine privilege to save this country and the other side represents evil. I hate it.
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Male 1,101
Just like getting raped in jail is the same as having a beer with a buddy
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Male 2,670
Republicans are just so darned SMART!
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Male 5,811
I`m sure the emotional toll of a (likely) consensual sexual encounter resulting in a child out of wedlock is just as bad as a woman being raped and getting pregnant. Seems legit.
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Male 7,123
A few off the cuff remarks about rape and abortion. What could possibly go wrong?
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Male 19,835
Link: Rape Similar To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock [Rate Link] - Or so says Tom Smith, another republican candidate up for Senate that seems to have put his foot in his mouth.
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