Police Brutality In St. Paul

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in Misc

The video of a St. Paul arrest raises serious questions about the conduct of the officer. Story in credits link.
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Male 3,058
This is exactly why I got the hell out of Minnesota. The police in the Twin Cities are OUT OF CONTROL.
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Male 184
MacGuffin, You are not seriously insinuating that police brutality is uniquely American are you? You judge the world from a demographic bubble. Scotland`s population and population density has changed very little over the past century. Less than a million since 1901. Also, almost zero ethnic diversity. There are serious problems with many facets of America, but I doubt you have the knowledge or experience to comment intellectually.
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Male 14,331
All I see is a woman beating sack of s**t choke on bags of drugs and get his ass beat good and proper.
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Male 219
The jackass never quit resisting. He just played badass fo his homies. No sympathy from me. Yay cops on this one.
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Female 1
This cop was in the right.. The dude was being picked up for beating up a chick the night before..
watch the beginning the guy starts coughing-- notice HE IS NOT being tazed or sprayed, he is choking up bags right up [approx 00:52]. The officer says to put his hands behind his back, he doesnt he continues to try and choked back another baggies. which is why he gets kicks to stop him from ingesting evidence. when they cuff him, hes still resisting so yes they have to restrain him against the hood until he is willing to comply. He resists from the very moment he is stopped by the cop, if you are innocent why RESIST?!
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Male 2,703
Just follow these few simple steps and you`ll be able to avoid getting your ass kicked by the police.

1)Obey the law.
2)Use common sense.
3)Stop immediately
4)Be polite
5)Turn that s--- off.
6)Shut the f--- up.
7)Get a white friend.
8)Don`t ride with a mad woman.
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Male 184
And as for this being more "widespread" in America, the U.S. doesn`t even make the top 10. This statement is based on research, not opinion.
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Male 184
MacGuffin, with all due respect. How are you so knowledgeable about how "most" Americans feel about anything? I really would like to know what research or data you base your many opinions about America or Americans on. Have you studied us? Have you spent any significant time here? My guess would be no. If you think America is what you see on IAB, I feel sorry for you. We have many social problems here. Any country with such dense and diverse populations experience the same issues. There are also many wonderful things about the U.S. There is a reason that >300,000,000 people call America home.
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Female 2,525
"I see police kick perps in the chest all the time. It prevents them from swallowing their bags of drugs. You can see this guy choking on a bag just before he gets kicked."

That`s quite an assumption. If I were sprayed in the face with mace I`d be coughing and choking too.
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Male 263
apparently, he didn`t do nuffin`.
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Male 2,376
from thug to bitch in 2.5 seconds flat..
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Male 884
Happens all the time
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Male 570
but yet this is nothing compared to the London riots. if you really want to see some effed up politics and police who do absolutely nothing at all just look at europe. and not even just london, europe as a whole.
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Male 14,331
vv Haz never heard of da Russiaz! VV
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacGuffin, You are not seriously insinuating that police brutality is uniquely American are you?[/quote]

No. But what worries me is the way most Americans honestly seem to believe that this sort of behaviour is "normal", and must be as widespread elsewhere as it is in the US. It just isn`t: your police are the worst bar none.
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Male 134
Even having not seen what led up to this, I don`t think what he did was wrong. He needed to get the guy in the car and secure the scene. The man was resisting and exacerbating the situation. What I don`t understand is why they brought in half of the squad cars in town. That was just turning it into more of a circus.
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Male 184
MacGuffin, You are not seriously insinuating that police brutality is uniquely American are you? You judge the world from a demographic bubble. Scotland`s population and population density has changed very little over the past century. Less than a million since 1901. Also, almost zero ethnic diversity. There are serious problems with many facets of America, but I doubt you have the knowledge or experience to comment intellectually.
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Female 2,602
Nothing new to see here, unfortunately. Just more American police getting away with the same BS they`ve been getting away with for years, and will continue to get away with for years to come. And, somehow, it`s all got something to do with "freedom". You`ve got to laugh. If you didn`t you`d puke at the sheer hypocrisy.
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Male 5,811
Well, although I`d have to question what led up to this, that kick was just unnecessary, the guy was choking for goodness` sake.
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Male 411
Besides the kick, it was pretty standard operating procedure for a non cooperative suspect. Even the body slam seemed normal after the guy turned on the cop when he got to his feet (possibly to spit or fight, can`t tell).
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Male 38
I truly hope I see the day when all the cop hating people call 9-1-1 and no one responds. Must be so easy judging what these cops do everyday from the comfort of your laptop. You have no idea what the men and women who police these liberal utopias aka inner cities go through. I say do away w/ the police for 30 days and lets see what happens when these savages that are kept at bay have no checks on them. I will would be fine, would you?
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Male 78
"you gown git paid, bra!" This says it all to me. Why not resist arrest? Get dat loot, yo.

I`m not surprised with either side here. Thugs continue to thug and try to get over. Cops continue to use accessive abuse of their "power". And the world goes around.
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Male 1,341
Meh, I`d be willing to bet that they all participate in less than legal activities on a regular basis. At one point the man behind the camera mentions that he doesn`t have poo on him and neither does the perp, something of that sort. That says to me that they have nothing on them at the time, but normally would.
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Male 559
Cops are the dregs of society, the scum of the earth, the worst the human race has to offer. Why is anyone surprised?
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Male 162
I see police kick perps in the chest all the time. It prevents them from swallowing their bags of drugs. You can see this guy choking on a bag just before he gets kicked.
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Male 500
Around the 2:00 mark the cuffed guy lashes out at the cop on his side with a "drat you" into his face. That`s probably the reason they slammed him into the car.

But the kick was uncalled for.
Then again, I have no symapthy whatsoever for drug dealers. They should all rot in the ground.
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Male 11
I am curious as to what you would recommend the officer should have done instead. Having been kicked in the chest, I`ll admit, it isn`t fun, but its also not life threatening, unless the kick is placed in the short ribs, at which point a fractured rib may puncture the lung or heart. This appeared dead center. Am I wrong? I`ve only got the video to go on.
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Male 41,175
[quote]police have become nothing but gangs with a badge.[/quote]
I`ve been saying that for 2 decades @jamie!
Listen!
When @OldOllie and I agree with you? YOU need to look at your opinions and wonder what they are based on!

Seriously! @OO and Me haven`t changed our opinions on things from day zero! WHY do you suddenly agree with us?
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Male 291
I would like to see what happened before the part of the video that we saw. He must have done something or have been called for something bad though, I don`t think that he deserved to be kicked though.
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Male 291
I would like to say that I am from Saint Paul and have had a few encounters with police from around here and none of them have been bad. I am surprised by what this cop has done, usually I back up the police but even I think that this was over the line.
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Male 41,175
4:10 and following: All dees officers for dis?
Well, I cannot contradict that!
Up until then it was just a dude getting arrested, but seeing ALL THOSE COPS arrive? W-T-F? It`s just wrong.
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Male 40,266

Check out that guys boobs at 3:13 !
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Male 75
more scum
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Male 10,338
Let me ask you.

If a cop approached you, and with a stern voice said that, would you comply, then ask why, or ask why, resisting?
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Male 10,338
BB: No. You`re an idiot. I can tell you have no concept of SIR! GET ON THE GROUND AND PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK!
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Male 550
@ Auburnjunky
You`re an idiot. I can tell you have no concept of rights.
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Male 10,338
No. He kicked him for not putting his hands behind his back.

How to avoid this?

Cop: SIR! GET DOWN ON THE GROUND AND PLACE YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK!

Person: Yes officer. (and do it.)

Easy peasy, Japanesey.
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Male 1,239
For real, I am very sympathetic toward police in some situations but this was absurd and a little extra besides! I really can`t help but feel the cop kicked him just for hacking and coughing, why else?!
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Male 2,513
If police were held accountable for their actions just as regular citizens were there would be felonies filed. Aggravated assault is a serious charge, never thought i`d say this...

I`m with OldOllie on this one
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Male 15,832
@jamie76, the cops. The first cop gets at least two counts for kicking him and slamming his head into the squad car, and another count for the cop who helped slam him into the squad car. I`m sure there would be a few more for what happened before and after that.
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Male 1,239
For real, I am very sympathetic toward police in some situations but this was absurd and a little extra besides! I really can`t help but feel the cop kicked him just for hacking and coughing, why else?!
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Male 2,344
OldOllie

are you referring to the cop or the unarmed person on the ground getting beaten?
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Male 2,344
PinkRhoid

well put man. Let me translate for you what is meant by "hostile" neighborhood. This is a thinly veiled way of expressing that because it is a BLACK neighborhood that it is a bad neighborhood and deserves that it gets.

I find it funny that the only hostile actions being displayed in this vid were coming from the police making it very clear that they were going to jack up anyone that protested a little too close or spoke up a little too loudly.
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Male 15,832
Looks like felony aggravated battery and armed criminal action to me.
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Male 1,239
more than an allegation of a threat no matter how likely his record lends to its accuracy.
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Male 1,239
[quote]One officer against a guy twice his size in a clearly hostile neighborhood. The arrest was non-compliant. The officer used less lethal means to get the guy to comply. Police brutality?? Hardly.[/quote]
A guy twice his size lying on his face, hands behind his back, coughing and choking? Wow, pretty scary! Hostile neighborhood where the loudest person there is shouting for others to back up and cooperate and to be quiet? If it`s considered hostile to shout out that what someone else is doing is wrong and that you have witnessed and recorded it then God help us all.
And my lord did you see how hard he resisted when they slammed his face in the car, pulled his hair and head back, and slammed him into the sidewalk? Me neither.
Considering this guys record, it`s very likely he is totally guilty of threatening someone. That doesn`t change the fact he was fairly incapacitated and still kicked in the face etc. and it doesn`t change the fact that all this occurred with nothing
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Male 3,668
Normally I give the cops the benefit of the doubt, especially when the whole story isn`t presented.
However, I was with the cop up until the kick to the chest.
The perp may have been a limp, dead sack of weight, but the cop should`ve just waited for backup.

The crowd, though verbally hostile, wasn`t physically hostile.
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Male 2,344
Andrew155

do you always feel such a need to open you gaping vjay jay and demonstrate how intellectually challanged you are?

BTW, I served my country in military and if and when a revolt starts and it is for the right reason, I will be happy to follow Thomas Jefferson`s advice and see fit to helping to correct the problem.

meanwhile, I am sure you will be found running your mouth and posting pics of dead horse`s and being as irrelevant as ever.

NEXT.
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Male 330
One officer against a guy twice his size in a clearly hostile neighborhood. The arrest was non-compliant. The officer used less lethal means to get the guy to comply. Police brutality?? Hardly.
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Male 787
All the officers involved should be ashamed.
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Male 2,158
A huge problem with police brutality is that the grand jury process rubberstamps approval of police actions. Grand Juries are run by prosecutors who manipulate information to predetermine fault without outside controls. We need to interject a people`s advocacy in the process.
Here - in Oregon - police are NEVER held accountable for brutality, even when, time and again, they show no regard for due diligence.
Two things need to happen. Training must be changed to acknowledge that cops are not judge, jury and executioners and stronger background checks must be implemented to weed out those unsuited to suit up.
Indeed, eventually the public will react and rightly so. It`s too bad that a lot of good cops put their lives on the line to get tarred and feathered by the likes of these f*ckheads.
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Male 2,242
The police are not your friends.Now they are the enemy.
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Male 2,578
Jamie, that sounds like you`re advocating revolution and violence against the government. Stop being pussy and do it then, big man.
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Male 594
"He got anything on him? I dont think so, do you? nah man not on me"

Lmao
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Male 2,578
We don`t even know what happened? It`s the same story as all of these police videos.

However, you can`t go deadweight while the police are trying to arrest you and expect to be treated gently. Duh.
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Male 2,344
pretty soon people are going to stop fearing the police and start fighting back.

police have become nothing but gangs with a badge.
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Male 2,513
@bean22 post pictures like the Chinese or it didn`t happen
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Male 2,513
No excuse. Power tripping a-hole
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Female 267
I live in St. Paul. This is business as usual for the cops here. And 6 squads always seem to show up, regardless of the situation.
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Male 2,384
drating police, just .... wow
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Female 8,043
Link: Police Brutality In St. Paul [Rate Link] - The video of a St. Paul arrest raises serious questions about the conduct of the officer. Story in credits link.
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