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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    August 30, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Link: Growth Of Walmart In America - Just like a virus. Walmart has over 8,500 stores in 15 countries. 1st they take over the country then your minds. Scary
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    Magickrat Male 40-49
    535 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 10:54 am
    And with every one of those dots is a Mom & Pop store that got run out of business by Adolph Walton & his Gestapo franchise. I wouldn`t shop at a Walmart if I was having a massive coronary they had a buy-one-get-one-free sale on difibrilators...
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    Skythe Male 18-29
    965 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 10:55 am
    Damn, east coast, lay off the walmart.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 10:56 am
    It is scary that poor people have a place to shop for affordable things.
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    putzco Male 30-39
    213 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Yes, & over 2 million people have jobs because of them. Those sons o`bithces.
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    Illy74 Male 30-39
    86 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:00 am
    They also tried to take over Germany. Well, they finally sold their 85 stores to a German retailer, incurring a loss of $1 billion. #fail. :)
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    DromEd Male 40-49
    1947 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Here we go again. If you don`t like Walmart, don`t shop there. I don`t like Walmart so I don`t shop there. It`s very simple.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:40 am
    DromEd

    "Here we go again. If you don`t like Walmart, don`t shop there. I don`t like Walmart so I don`t shop there. It`s very simple."

    It IS NOT very simple. Walmart comes into a small town. A lot of the town`s independently owned retail stores go out of business because they can`t compete with the prices. There is therefore nowhere else to shop in that town.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:47 am
    You liberals can rag on Wal-mart all you want, but the undeniable fact is, Wal-mart has done more to raise the standard of living for poor people than all your damned government welfare programs combined.
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    whyteman Male 30-39
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    August 30, 2012 at 11:55 am
    "Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:47:10 AM
    You liberals can rag on Wal-mart all you want, but the undeniable fact is, Wal-mart has done more to raise the standard of living for poor people than all your damned government welfare programs combined"
    While driving thousands of family businesses out of business. Yeah good call.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:57 am
    HolyGod, why is that not good? They can`t compete with the prices because their prices are too high. You want poor people to shop at expensive places? What are you going to do, ban Walmart because it offers competitive prices and it makes towns "less quaint"?

    And you exaggerate anyways. One of my high schools was in a small town. Walmart came, old shops remained. No big deal.

    I`ll tell you, what`s really killing small shops is the internet and places like amazon.com.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6274 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Magickrat-"And with every one of those dots is a Mom & Pop store that got run out of business"

    It`s called `competition`, and it results in a better value for the customer. Or are you going to suggest the `Mom & Pop` store were run out of business with a gun, rather than with a good business model.

    Also, the Mom & Pop store employed MANY LESS people than an average Wal-Mart.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 30, 2012 at 11:58 am
    HolyGod-"A lot of the town`s independently owned retail stores go out of business because they can`t compete with the prices."

    And you`re saying that the public should be require to buy less, more expensive products just so you can satisfy your hard-on for Wal-Mart?

    When was the last time you hired a farrier? I mean, just because the automobile was invented is no reason for farriers to lose their livelyhood. If you have not hired a farrier that you didn`t need this year, STFU.

    HolyGod-"There is therefore nowhere else to shop in that town."

    Hmm..I can buy groceries at Wal Mart, or Food World, or a local Mom & Pop that`s is still in business. Seems I have a choice.

    I can also buy a lawn mower from Wal Mart, John Deere, Lowe`s or Home Depot. Seems like I have a choice.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 11:59 am
    "While driving thousands of family businesses out of business. Yeah good call."

    Do you seriously not believe in the competitive marketplace? You know, the economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty and created more innovation than any other?

    Family businesses can and do stay in business if they continue to deliver a quality product or service. That`s it.
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
    356 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    Get it straight. Wal-Mart does not drive anyone out of business. *Customers* drive higher-priced firms out of business by choosing to shop at Wal-Mart. You might not like it, but the vast majority of customers clearly do.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    August 30, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    its like a cancer
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    August 30, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    In my area, Walmart tried to buy out a locally owned and operated grocery store. Why? Because, despite the chain grocery stores, this particular store is their only real competition.

    To say that Mom `n` Pop shops can`t compete with Walmart is a load of BS.
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    Stormwolf Female 40-49
    74 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Well, nuke-soaked Nevada is still mostly safe...
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    RAWR SUCCESS IS EVIL AND MUST BE STOPPED
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    In my area, Walmart tried to buy out a locally owned and operated grocery store. Why? Because, despite the chain grocery stores, this particular store is their only real competition.

    To say that Mom `n` Pop shops can`t compete with Walmart is a load of BS.
    Wait, now I`m all confused. Why would Wal-mart offer to buy a business when they could just run them out of business?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6274 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    OldOllie-"Why would Wal-mart offer to buy a business when they could just run them out of business?"

    Because, contrary to what HolyGod would have you believe, Wal Mart is not a Irresistible
    Juggernaut. You can compete against it, by having a good product, good service and/or good prices.

    HolyGod seems to think that given a choice between buying a RCA 50" LCD TV for $549.98 & the same TV for $664.99, I should pay $126.49 MORE just to spite Wal-Mart.

    HolyGod doesn`t like that idea of only being rewarded when you work hard, as he`s never done so.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Andrew155, MeGrendel, Others

    I never said what they do is bad or wrong or I have a problem with it. I simply stated that the idea that you can choose to shop at Walmart or not is false. In a lot of areas walmart change the entire economy. It isn`t simply just another choice.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    MeGrendel

    "HolyGod doesn`t like that idea of only being rewarded when you work hard, as he`s never done so."

    That`s cute. I`ve been self employed since college. I work 70+ hours every week. I employ several people. I have made six figures since I was 23.

    Of all the stupid, fact-less statements you have made on this site that is the best.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    OldOllie

    "Wal-mart has done more to raise the standard of living for poor people"

    Seems kind of short sighted. Big box stores like Walmart, Target, Etc have helped usher in an end to American manufacturing by buying in bulk from over seas manufacturers. Since nothing they sell is made in America all of those jobs are now gone. Those jobs are what sustained the working class for generations in this country.

    If you are unemployed, it doesn`t really matter if you can get a great deal on a 6 pack of tube socks.

    I am not blaming Walmart or saying they have done anything wrong, but they have changed the economic landscape completely.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    MeGrendel, Duckboy87

    "I can buy groceries at Wal Mart, or Food World, or a local Mom & Pop"

    I said retail, a grocery store is a completely different model. Small grocery stores are one of the few segments that can actually compete with walmart. Groceries aren`t made overseas and a lot can`t be bought in bulk.

    "In my area, Walmart tried to buy out a locally owned and operated grocery store"

    Same thing. Grocery stores can compete. But try opening a little hardware store, electronics store, or toy store in a small town with a walmart. Best Buy and Toys R Us can`t even compete anymore.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
    1947 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    I`m just going to start calling him MoldyDog.

    Me, I shop at Target a lot. Prices are about the same and the store is just nicer. However I do roll through Sam`s Club for bulk items so the evil empire gets some of my dough. They just get less of it than a mom and pop store selling the same amount. Hummm?
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    kw112 Female 13-17
    243 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    ha look guys its the hell hole i work at. But seriously, shopping at Walmart is not a choice. I hear people complaining about how pooty it is every day at work. Everyone hates shopping at walmart, yet i see the same people that complain about how afwul it is come in no more than two days later.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    MeGrendel

    "I can also buy a lawn mower from Wal Mart, John Deere, Lowe`s or Home Depot. Seems like I have a choice."

    I put Lowe`s, Home Depot, and any other big box stores in the same category. It is national retailers that can buy in tremendous volume at huge discounts. I`m not singling walmart out.

    Additionally, once again, I`m not saying what they do is wrong or bad, just that it makes a huge change to the local economy. I shop at walmart occasionally.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    DromEd

    "Me, I shop at Target a lot. Prices are about the same and the store is just nicer. However I do roll through Sam`s Club for bulk items so the evil empire gets some of my dough. They just get less of it than a mom and pop store selling the same amount. Hummm?"

    I said small towns. I`m not talking about larger towns that have Walmarts and Targets and Best Buys and Home Depots. I`m talking about towns where every shop had the owner behind the counter until a walmart moved in. I watched it first hand in the town I grew up in. Those towns still exist.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
    1947 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    *smacks forehead*

    Guess what MoldyDog, times change. It`s up to us as a country to keep up. You can`t live in a bottle in a single moment in time. So stop your bitching and savor your success and if you feel the need find somebody in your neck of the woods who has been a victim of the big box store success story and give `em a job.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    DromEd

    "So stop your bitching "

    I`m confused. I`m not complaining. I have no problem with walmart. I`ve said that several times in this thread. I`m just talking about the macroeconomics of what they do. Sorry if my disagreeing with your original comment offended you, but I simply think it is false. Walmart, among others is changing the entire world economy. To dismiss it as simply another choice among several is narrow minded.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6274 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    HolyGod-"it makes a huge change to the local economy."

    The only constant is Change. The opposite of Change is not stagnation, but Change in the opposite direction.

    Of course it`s a more global economy. We`ve been working toward that since the Og, Ook and Charlie of the `Mountain Clan` of caveman found they could trade food for a better arrow from the `Valley Clan`, allowing them to kill MORE food. (Call it Arrow®, v1.2)

    The horse and wagon turned towns into cities & countries.

    The Steamboat made commerce between cities viable.

    The Train made Steamboats Obsolete.

    The highways and automobile made Train Travel pretty rare, and spelled the end of the farrier and the crap-shoveller.

    Why aren`t you supporting the farrier and the crap-shoveller?

    It all started with the horse, and that is why your train-tracks are still two-horses-asses wide.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    "Since nothing they sell is made in America all of those jobs are now gone."

    Really? NOTHING? That`s a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    August 30, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    "Strange", thought the scientists who were hastily searching what they could of the remaining Internet, "This is the exact pattern that the zombie outbreak took that caused this apocalypse we`re in. And look at this, there`s a comment saying exactly what we`re saying right now!"
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    nettech98

    "Really? NOTHING?"

    OK. I was being hyperbolic, fine. Less than 15% of products are. If you take away groceries it is probably under 5%, but I`m only guessing at that.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6919 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    MeGrendel

    I haven`t disgreed with a single thing you`ve said in this thread (outside of me not working hard). I doubt you`ve disagreed with anything I`ve said. You`ve just made assumptions on my stance because of previous debates we`ve engaged in so you`ve added context to my original statement to align it with those presumptions.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3291 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    That`s a fair assessment, HolyGod, about the grocery stores; however, the local hardware shop has also managed to stay in business despite there being a WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes, and Sears being in the neighboring area, not 15 minutes away.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    August 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    And that isn`t even all of them.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3291 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Oh, and OldOllie, they wanted to buy them out because they can`t compete with them, thus can`t run them out of business.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13631 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    Just the strategy of success, every corporate company does it. I work for Tyco, they run the same, build it up and spread, buy out competitors, etc.. goes on.. its the basics of making money, times move on, you cant sit on your laurels anymore.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    August 30, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    they should do this for Tim Hortons in Canada
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    August 30, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    Everyone likes to say how much they hate Wal-Mart, but just try to find a parking space on Saturday morning.
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    AWESOMEBOT Male 30-39
    67 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 7:46 pm
    I spent 2 years replacing SAP servers in Wal*mart stores. I would have to say (sadly) I am the only person I have met who has been in every Wal*mart Super Center in America. What a sad life I lead.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 9:43 pm
    Maybe we should outlaw backhoes. Think of all the pic-and-shovel ditch diggers who were put out of work by those things.

    Wal-mart haters are this century`s Luddites.
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    chickiesue86 Male 70 & Over
    273 posts
    August 30, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    that`s it, i am going to nevada.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    August 31, 2012 at 6:33 am
    This is exactly what they were talking about at the RNC. Do we celebrate a successful American company or do we denigrate success? We`ve seen the results of the latter over the last 4 years. Do we really want more of that or is it time to get back to being proud of success and bringing this country back from the brink?

    Personally, I`m done with the faded, backwards, tired old thinking of the Obama regime.
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    Vimto Male 40-49
    2853 posts
    August 31, 2012 at 7:00 am
    "Everyone likes to say how much they hate Wal-Mart, but just try to find a parking space on Saturday morning."

    That may be because walmart built over all the car parks.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 31, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Cancer
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    nicodemus Male 40-49
    81 posts
    August 31, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    AvatarJohn: is Walmart really a success? And by that I mean, is it really good for North America? I`ll only raise two points, but could list many more: how much do employees make per hour, do they have any benefits; and where is over 90% of the merchandise being sold made? So who really benefits from a successful Walmart conglomerate?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    August 31, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    nicodemus, Wal-mart employees are paid the market rate, i.e., there are plenty of people who are freely willing to work for what they offer. If they paid less, they couldn`t staff their stores, and if they paid more, they would be in breach of their fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders.

    Who benefits? Well, the employees, of course, who are there voluntarily, plus tens of millions of customers who enjoy a MUCH higher standard of living because they can buy more and better stuff for their money. That includes food, clothing, shoes, electronics, toys, pet supplies, housewares, hardware, paint, automotive, lawn and garden, personal care, eyeglasses, and pharmacy.

    And if you`re pining about jobs being lost to China, it`s probably because you never had to work in a shoe or garment factory. Trust me, that work was brutal, and it paid less than working at Wal-mart. We`re all better off to let the Chinese do that.
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    nicodemus Male 40-49
    81 posts
    September 1, 2012 at 6:05 am
    I love it when it`s said people work at lowing paying jobs with no benefits "voluntarily". It`s like saying "I think I`ll volunteer to eat today."

    Also, the old argument that all the "bad" jobs are taken up by "other" people, like the Chinese...Walmart is the number one employer in the US. That`s a fact. Not too long ago it was the automotive industry. It`s also a fact that more people in North America are struggling from pay cheque to pay cheque and are more in debt than ever before.

    Wake up! It`s all tied together. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

    P.S. As for the jobs in China being difficult and dirty, so was working in an auto plant. But back in the day you were paid a living wage to build cars right here in North America. How many would trade that job to work in a Walmart?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    September 2, 2012 at 10:50 pm
    Wake up! It`s all tied together. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
    nic, that`s just bull$#!+ liberal propaganda. The fact is, so-called poor people today live much better than the middle class did 100 years ago. They have cars, televisions, cable, computers, high-speed Internet, washers and dryers, microwave ovens, cell phones, and a large portion of them are FAT! Their standard of living has increased and continues to increase, or at least it did up until the Democrats took over congress in 2007. In case you didn`t notice, THAT`S when the economy turned to $#!+.

    I`ll bet you even buy into the old liberal canard that you can create jobs by raising taxes on employers. No one had ever been able to explain that to me. Maybe you can.

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