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Date: 08/25/12 10:15 AM

43 Responses to All Empire State Building Victims Wounded By Popos

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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Link: All Empire State Building Victims Wounded By Popos - NYPD is sharp.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Come on, guys. Three injured by stray bullets, six injured by broken planters and other projectiles created from the firefight. Not to say that any injury is acceptable, but, in a firefight with a person bent on killing (and having just done so) in a city as crowded as NYC, we`re lucky there wasn`t more death. I`m not saying we shouldn`t investigate and see what happened, and I`m not saying the police shouldn`t be held accountable if they acted unprofessionally. But, I think that second guessing a trained person`s actions in the middle of a gunfight, without knowing all of the facts, is presumptuous at best and epically ignorant at worst. I realize that Rambo never misses, but he`s not really real.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Intentionally misleading headline; nothing to see here.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 10:45 am
    So...It wasn`t a shooting rampage...until the police showed up. Where the police sent by Obama?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 11:25 am
    How is the headline misleading? All of the wounded were wounded by the police. That`s a fact.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 11:33 am
    @SmagBoy1 - I agree with you 100%. Considering what time it happened and where it was, they`re very lucky. It was in front of the Empire State Building which is not only a tourist attraction, it`s also an office building. At that time of the morning the streets in that area packed with people trying to get to work.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 11:48 am
    The guy wasn`t a threat to people. He had a specific target, somebody he knew. It was not a spree shooting. He put his gun back into his black bag before he took off.

    What if somebody had died? What if some of the shrapnel took somebody eye out? You might be singing a different tune. It`s out of sheer luck that didn`t happen.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    And this is why I stay out of New York. They only allow idiots who can`t hit their targets to have weapons legally.

    Just another reason why the averege citizen should be armed.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    "Just another reason why the averege citizen should be armed."

    Really, so more people can get hit by panicked people shooting randomly in the direction of the person they *think* is the bad guy? Great plan.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    The guy took his gun back out when the police approached him. The police had no choice but to shoot him and that decision had to be made in a split second. None of you monday morning quarterbacks could have made a better decision. Especially the gun people who are desperate for a reason to prove their fantasy that having a gun would make them the big hero. You people are more dangerous than the criminals who just want to get away as quickly as possible.
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    horror102 Male 40-49
    108 posts
    August 25, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    hey Andrew155 your an ass
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    horror102 Male 40-49
    108 posts
    August 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    put yourself in that situation and you would crap yourself.... Dopes
    go NYPD!!
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Does anyone know how often police officers are required to go to the range with their weapon? Because a lot cops seem to be bad shots. There have been instances where police get into a shootout at distances of only 6 or 7 meters and still miss 70+% of their shots.

    Even though their pistol is probably their least used tool, its the only one with immediate, permanent consequences, and should be the one they practice with the most.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    you`re*

    And I would crap myself after finding out I just shot nearly a dozen civilians.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    It`s amazing that the people who are ordinarily anti-cop are strongly pro-cop in the situation where they actually start shooting innocent civilians in a crowded area. But if they tased one of these people, and it wouldn`t hurt if he were a minority, they would have their panties all in a bunch.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    Basically, you don`t pursue armed in a crowded area. That`s why many cops think that car chases are a bad and pointless idea that often lead to civilian deaths and damaged to taxpayer roads.

    The fact is, you can easily wait until he`s somewhere where there is no crowd. New York City has cameras everywhere. You might even be able to arrest him in his home instead of just killing him on the spot and wounding a dozen people.

    I wonder, would people feel the same way if we killed a terrorist in Afghanistan and wounded all of these people by shooting into the crowd? I mean, this is basically like a drone strike where collateral damage in the vicinity doesn`t matter as long as there is a terrorist there.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    Poo happens, thats life
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    Andrew155
    You cant pontificate unless you have been put in that environment, its horrible, you have your fight or flight adrenaline rushing, arguing against your training. Damn hard.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    All victims were shot by police? What about the one who died? He was shot by the gunman.

    So the question is, would you rather get wounded by the police, or killed by the gunman?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    Why do cops feel the need to empty the clip whenever they use their weapon? Every police shooting I`ve seen they do, and there are even cases of the cops shooting a guy 90 times. In this situation, innocent people suffered.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    If the definition of "gun control" is hitting your target, it isn`t working in NYC, that progressive liberal paradise where unionized f***tard cops think THEY should be the ONLY ones to have guns.
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    banjolegs Male 30-39
    176 posts
    August 25, 2012 at 3:59 pm
    Yeah right Oldollie, `cos it`s only Libtard cops who shoot people....
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    police for the lose
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm
    OldOllie, that argument is ridiculous and holds no water. Banning guns in NYC while still allowing them in the rest of the country is akin to forbidding people from peeing in the pool within arm`s length of the ladder. Completely and utterly worthless.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    A lot of very good points have been made here. The only other thing I can think of is..."Popos"?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 25, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    SO: it wasn`t a "mass shooting" after all, eh?

    It was: a murder and then a gunfight with Police. Bystanders were injured by accident, not targeted.

    The police respond to a shooting call and a guy pulls out a gun while fleeing the scene, they`re supposed to let him go? NOT! They did what they had to do, we should be glad no one else died.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
    316 posts
    August 25, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    What kinda moron thinks banning guns is a good idea?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    @turdburglar - It`s a magazine, not a clip.

    @RuralNinja - How often they qualify on a pistol range varies depending on the Police Dept. From what I`ve been told it`s at least once a year, some do it bi-annually and some quarterly.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    Completely and utterly worthless.
    Actually, it`s much worse than worthless, but that concept may be a but too subtle for your tiny little brain.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    What kinda moron thinks banning guns is a good idea?
    About 2/3 of the idiots on this site.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    August 25, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Fcuking news services. The first report I heard said the man had gone on a shooting spree, firing at random people. What happens? If the newshounds can`t find the answers to their questions, do they just make them up because they`re about to go live?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    change headline to "Police responsible for spree shooting"
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    geckoi Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    I`m glad I live in Florida, at least the cops know how to aim at the one with the gun, might not be the right one with the gun, but st least they don`t shoot the one`s standing around the bad guy (Florida people know when to hit the floor).....
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    If the newshounds can`t find the answers to their questions, do they just make them up because they`re about to go live?
    Perhaps so, but isn`t it more interesting that they erred on the side of their biased liberal anti-gun political agenda?
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    August 26, 2012 at 4:53 am
    I like how gun sales rise after each shooting in the states.

    "Guns don`t kill people, Americans do".
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    August 26, 2012 at 4:58 am
    "Why do cops feel the need to empty the clip whenever they use their weapon?"

    To make sure they go down and stay down. Sometimes one bullet isn`t effective.
    London police shot Charles De Menezes SEVEN times in the head after pinning him down thinking he was a terrorist who wouldn`t stop running in the London underground after repeated requests.
    During the Iranian embassy siege in London in 1980, SAS stormed the building and fired up to 100 rounds each into the terrorists. They can`t take risks, they have to make sure they`re dead.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 26, 2012 at 5:46 am
    If anything this is argument AGAINST gun control, new york already has some of the most restrictive gun control measures. If these incidents can`t be stopped there through gun control, then it can`t be stopped.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    August 26, 2012 at 6:35 am
    "Why do cops feel the need to empty the clip whenever they use their weapon?"
    "To make sure they go down and stay down."
    It doesn`t take that. Trained human beings know
    that.
    That answer is more likely to be
    "Because they were high on adrenaline."
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    August 26, 2012 at 9:01 am
    If police are only required to demonstrate competency once or twice a year then there lies most of the problem. How can you remain proficient in something that you only do for a few minutes a year? Seems recreational target shooters would be more accurate than the average cop albeit without the crisis training cops receive. Seems more range time and other types of training are in order. I often hear anti-gun types here say that a citizen shooter is responsible for where the bullet goes. Seems to me police should be held to the same standard. So have an investigation and find out if anybody was out of line. If so, punish the guilty.
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    JuggaloReign Male 18-29
    55 posts
    August 26, 2012 at 10:00 am
    @IRockYeah, Wait, so they shot him 7 times in the head AFTER they already had him pinned to the ground? Looks like your country is doing just fine without the citizens being allowed to own guns.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    August 28, 2012 at 4:30 am
    @paperduck

    "If these incidents can`t be stopped there through gun control, then it can`t be stopped."

    Laws against murder don`t stop all murders either.

    Doesn`t mean we go ahead and legalise murder.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    August 28, 2012 at 6:50 am
    Told you guys in the previous story of this and the far lefties want only police armed!! Most police can`t even take apart their pistol and clean it never mind hit a target in these "control" zones. That`s what happens when you make a gun free zone.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    August 28, 2012 at 6:53 am
    @IRockYeah

    Do you realize how much of a window licker you sound like???

    "Guns don`t kill people, Americans do".
    Then...
    During the Iranian embassy siege in London in 1980, SAS stormed the building and fired up to 100 rounds each into the terrorists. They can`t take risks, they have to make sure they`re dead.

    You should stick to fluffing the princes balls.

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