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87 Responses to The Best Of Military Homecomings

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Link: The Best Of Military Homecomings - Because you haven`t had a good cry in a while...
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    So have you learned the lesson americans? Stay at home...is better and made you a better man.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    Part 1 was better
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    shiftyplus1 Male 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Your right. History has proven the world would be a better place today if we just stayed home all the time.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    shiftyplus1 my right?
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    bdowner60 Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yes , and all the ones that should have come home and never will.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Yeah piper.... You`d be speaking German right now. Or maybe Russian. Unless you already are of course....
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    bdowner60 what about all the people that allready was at their home and not only they lost a home but also the life cause of your army?
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    Dover78 Male 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    Piperfawn, don`t cheapen these people`s moments. A majority of us don`t necessarily agree with the wars, but the sad fact is we signed our souls away; some out of necessity, some of patriotism. We`re honor, and legally bound to go where the government tells us and do what it tells us and we can`t control it anymore than the tail controls the dog who wags it. So please, I normally don`t mind when Europeans, Canadians and everyone else turn every post having anything to do with America into hate rally, its your right, but these people were sent somewhere they didn`t want to go and made to do things they didn`t want to do to stay alive and made it home to their families. They deserve a little untainted peace. Let your ire or malice towards my country rest on this one.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    nettech98 nope i`m italian, i live on north, who kick the ass of fascists and nazis in my region was the partisans, italian people. Americans arrives in Sicily with mafia permision, they go north raping the girls who meets on the way and stop at Cassino sucking plumb while fascists where escaping to north. While they enjoy ours girls and foods russians where conquering Berlin. This is the history of my people, maybe is a bit diiferent in your books.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Dover78 not cheapening, i`m really convinced in what i say. If you want to be a real "man" stay at home, at your home, with your family and fight daily civil "wars". This gonna made you a better man, not going around the world following orders that you don`t understand like a puppet. If you don`t want to be the tail of a dog but a man, stay with your family and friend and fight inside your society not against others society or others civilians.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    Nope the history in my books is that continental Europe was pretty much screwed and the Americans kicked the Germans out of occupied territories and gave you your country back.

    And if not for that you would been a territory of the Third Reich or maybe a Soviet state. Sound about right?
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    And thanks for bringing up the mafia. One of Italy`s most recognized exports... Why didn`t they "stay at home"??
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    Piperfawn, don`t cheapen these people`s moments. A majority of us don`t necessarily agree with the wars, but the sad fact is we signed our souls away...

    Do you a deal, Dover. As soon as all you Americans that claim not to agree with what `your government` is doing start protesting properly, or even just stop voting war criminals like Bush and Obama in to second terms after they`ve apparently `disappointed` you so much, we`ll stop criticising your country and your armed forces. If your soldiers even start behaving like human beings rather than the worst kind of sadistic civilian-murdering scum they`re regularly exposed to be, we`ll give them a pass and focus the blame on your government. Until and unless those things happen, we`ll just be glad that your troops are out there fighting for our freedom to call you war-mongering cowards that terrorise women and children and practice torture whilst preaching democracy. `kay?
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    nettech98 yes in your book. Mussolini died in Milan, killed by partisans while he try to escape, no Germans where in my country cause they all go back to Germany while rusiians where pounding hard their asses. Your country just sent tons and tons of young americans guys to die like cannon meat. Tank for your sacrifice, americans people, but if i was in you i would be enraged with your governors.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    nettech98 cause your country was a fertile place for the spreading of mafia?
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    The real fact is that people in USA have never experienced what a war mean inside his territory. You all talk about war as if it was just a mythological thing, like a Hollywood movie, like an amazing story with heroes and enemies. When ,i hope not, you will experience what a war is for real, when you will see on your streets and on your skins what wars do to humans maybe you will understand why lot of people hate your will on spreading wars over the world. You are just planting seeds of hate all over outside your borders. Grow up, war is much more than something you read in a book. When the war march inside your country, your cities ,your streets you can understand that books and apologies about wars are just words used to convince the dumbs.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    Shiftyplus1

    No it hasn`t. That is just an utterly trite sentence that you wrote without any thought, let alone reasoning let alone god forbid evidence behind it.

    Goes fo ryou too, piperfawn. All very well for you to say that, but you have no clue about world affairs.
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    icaruschild Female 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    Either way, despite the undertones, I choose to take joy from these images of sheer love, longing and exuberence. Guess I am in a soppy mood tonight ;)
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    Dover78 Male 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm
    You call us war mongers. I call you hate mongers. You sit back on your moral high horse and pass judgment on people you`ve never met. You ignorantly place every American soldier under a blanket judgement of savagery when the fact is that a majority of our armed forces have never been in combat and never want to be. Yet you accuse those same people, having never fired a weapon in anger, of torture and terror. You paint America as a brutal, violent hive mind with no capacity for independent thought, yet you cast yourself as an individual, and even claim the honor of the Italian partisans based solely on the fact that you live in Northern Italy. You`re in your thirties. You weren`t a twinkle in your father`s eye when hard men like the partisans were fighting. You`ve got no place to say America has never seen a war on its doorstep, neither have you. You`re as ignorant as any American, just from a different direction.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    "The real fact is that people in USA have never experienced what a war mean inside his territory"

    Pearl Harbor ring a bell? I`m guessing you won`t acknowledge 9/11 though...

    Have we been occupied, no. But based on your age,
    you`ve "never experienced what a war mean inside" your territory either...

    That doesn`t mean the 416,000+ World War Two deaths the US experienced are any less real...
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    "The real fact is that people in USA have never experienced what a war mean inside his territory"

    And that`s just in the 20th Century. American Civil War? 700,000 dead.

    American Revolution? 25,000

    War of 1812? 20,000

    Mexican American War? 13,000

    All "on our territory".
  23. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    Dover78 try to discern what "I" say and what"McGuffin" say( also if i agree a lot with what she say) and answer to each of us pls, we are not married(yet). My question is, if you don`t want to be in war why the hell you do the soldier? For money? Well excuse me but you are a whore so. Yes i`m 30 and luckily i where not here when there was WW2. My father born under bombardments ( done by allies), the uncle of my father was deported to Polony, he managed to escape and come back home by foot. My grandmother lost two childs during war( they could be my uncles). One grandad died fighting fascists. The family of my mother had a better chance ( they where richer) and they manage to escape the city to the country leaving their houses under the bombs. I didn`t see the war with my eyes but with the eyes of my realtives.I was in Jugoslavia in 90`s, during the war, as a soldier. But the difference is that was not my choice, in Italy since 2000 all males was forced to do milita
  24. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm
    ...in your country for what i know is your drating choice. So where was your parents during WW2? They where guzling some coke while watching news on the TV about an "exotic" war?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    You call us war mongers. I call you hate mongers. You sit back on your moral high horse and pass judgment on people you`ve never met...

    Actually, I have met American soldiers doing their jobs whilst I was doing mine - I`m an ex-squaddie myself, you see. They didn`t impress me much. One Ranger I met foolishly tried to impress me by telling me he "was a killer", and went on to explain that was why he wore his unit patch on the right instead of his left shoulder. I said that was impressive, that he could tell his right and left apart like that.

    If you`re a willing participant in the many acts of evil committed by your country and its military overseas, don`t be surprised when other people fail to see you as "Good Germans", different from those that participated in atrocities more directly, when you get back home.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:11 pm
    we are not married(yet).

    God loves a tryer, pf.
  27. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    nettech98 i gues you where present during the wars you mentioned....hmm maybe not you but your parents....hmm neither, or maybe yes if they have 200 years. Ohh pls don`t call Pearl Harbour and 9/11 a war, is just...pathetic.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    MacGuffin ;-)
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    Piper don`t you realize that it`s your comment that "The real fact is that people in USA have never experienced what a war mean inside his territory" is what`s pathetic.

    I called you out on it and all you can say is that I wasn`t alive during the Civil War?

    Great argument. You win.

    And just to remind you - since you know me (and all Americans) so well - both my parents were in Europe during WW2.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    @Piperfawn- American Revolution. Northwest Indian War. Franco-American war. Mexican- American war. American Civil war.
    We`ve fought a war or two here. We`ve fought a war or two in your neck of the woods and pulled your fat out of the fire both time- your welcome.
    I`m sorry if our history is not as bloody as yours- yet.
    The point of the video was not really about wars, but about family reuniting. Sorry that pisses you off.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    CaptKangaroo what pissed me off is not the good feeling showed in this video, what piss me off is the fact that most of your people see this as a cherry on the cake, the cherry is this happy moment and the war is the cake, the cake that you americans of today see only through media as a sensational and maybe exciting fact, something that you can`t understand cause your backyards are allways well trimmed and with nice flowers not touched by strangers military boots."Ohh but ours soldiers are died in the recents wars" you can say , well was their choice no one forced your people to join army. Your people don`t see innocent people or civilians killed in your street by armies, lot of countries over the world see that and in most of cases part of the armies involved wear stars and stripes.I`m not doing a match on who had a bloodiest war history ( also cause would be unfair, you loose at beginning ;-) ). Next time maybe a video of a family of miners that reunite will not upset me.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    "I`m not doing a match on who had a bloodiest war history ( also cause would be unfair, you loose at beginning"

    How far back are we going? Do we have to bring up the Romans that "didn`t stay at home"???
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    I mean if we want to talk about `raping and pillaging` let`s go! I mean they were Italian...
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    nettech98 Don`t know, you started all when you talk about your 200 years ago civil war.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    nettech98 Technicaly they where Romans, Italians as inhabitants of Italy comes later.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    "nettech98 Technicaly they where Romans, Italians as inhabitants of Italy comes later"

    Oh snap! Let me go check my Americanized geography book as to where Rome is... BRB...
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    nettech98 oh sorry you are right i will follow your logic and from now on i will call you Sioux instead of americans cause the villages of Sioux where in your actual country right? Yes i`ve checked on my European book.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    "nettech98 Don`t know, you started all when you talk about your 200 years ago civil war."

    Think that might have been in response to:

    "The real fact is that people in USA have never experienced what a war mean inside his territory"

    Not sure. Could be...
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Good! Cuz my American book said that the Romans weren`t actually interested in taking over the world and that when the Roman Empire collapsed, all the Romans left Italy in disgrace and people who didn`t want to take over the world came in and repopulated it.

    NOT!
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:21 pm
    "oh sorry you are right i will follow your logic and from now on i will call you Sioux "

    Your `logic` doesn`t hold up very well. Not only are most Americans not descended from Native Americans (let alone Sioux), there are way many more tribes than that..

    How many Italians are not descended from the Roman Empire?
  41. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    >>>The point of the video was not really about wars, but about family reuniting. Sorry that pisses you off.<<<


    The trouble is, CaptK, that where you see innocent and touching family moments, those of us who object to America`s present path of unending aggression, war and torture see this:



    What you`re looking at is the family of Rudolf Hoess. And the gate behind the girl on the right leads into Auschwitz; he was its first Commandant. His own family lived in luxury, never knowing what went on behind the gate. Details here, and BBC article here.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    For us, the very poignancy of the contrast between a soldier`s clear love for their own family, yet hatred, torture and abuse for others, is what makes these type of images so unpalatable.
  43. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    nettech98 Lot.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    "nettech98 Lot"

    Ok.. I`m waiting...
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    Dover78 Male 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Piper, why take the time to differentiate between you and MacGuffin when neither of you seem willing to differentiate between one American and another. Yes, I enlisted because I had no other feasible choice. Work was slim and I have family to support, so I did what was best for me and mine. You can`t expect any more from any man anywhere. Do I wish harm on anyone anywhere? No. Do I regret it? No. And don`t try to justify your service in Yugoslavia as not being your choice. Italians have been able to claim conscientious objector status and perform their compulsory service in non-violent jobs since the 70s. And you can`t claim shared experience with relatives you`ve never met. MacGuffin, I can`t speak for whatever cross section of idiots you`ve met, but the fact still stands that they`re a sub section of a greater group of people. Yet you choose to lump us all together and stereotype us and that makes you no better than any racist, sexist, or bigot.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    "For us, the very poignancy of the contrast between a soldier`s clear love for their own family, yet hatred, torture and abuse for others, is what makes these type of images so unpalatable."

    That almost implies that the individuals portayed are guilty of atrocities. I would call BS on that.

    Are you prepared to say no Scot has ever committed what you classify as a "war crime"? Should we hold the entire Scottish military - perhaps Scotland as a whole - guilty of war crimes for the acts of a few?
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    "For us, the very poignancy of the contrast between a soldier`s clear love for their own family, yet hatred, torture and abuse for others, is what makes these type of images so unpalatable."

    I actually didn`t see any hatred, torture and abuse in the video. Did I miss something??
  48. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Dover78 i`ve done the request for objector status but was denied that`s all. Lot of people that i know have done like me and their requests where denied too. What about lumberjack? A farm worker? A miner? Your country is very huge and give lot of this and other possibilities.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:41 pm
    MacGuffin, I can`t speak for whatever cross section of idiots you`ve met, ...

    It may surprise you, Dover, but I didn`t just base my assessment of US soldiers as a gestalt entity on just one bad isolated example. It`s their predominant behaviour, both that which I`ve seen with my own eyes as well as that which I`ve read about in the media, that has caused me to come to the informed conclusions that I have about them.

    And, as for your rationalisation that you personally only enlisted to fight in wars that you claim not to agree with because "work was slim". Quite honestly, monetary gain is just about the most piss-poor excuse I`ve ever heard for participating in atrocities like wars you claim not to agree with (but don`t, apparently, regret your part in). I`d rather stack supermarket shelves than kill people I had no beef with, or be party to their killing and torture by my willing participation.
  50. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    "What about lumberjack? A farm worker? A miner? Your country is very huge and give lot of this and other possibilities"

    Some of us do that, but also feel the need to be part of something bigger than ourselves. Do something for our communities, our country. Voluntarily...
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    birdawg68 Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Lotta hate for the US. Haters gonna hate. Some day we won`t be top dog, but until then shut up or we will bomb you back to the stone age. Not me personally, I did my 22 years and am retired now, but some of my buddies might. MacGuffin, you are a fruitcake. Go smoke a cigarette like all good, learned Europeans!
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Dover78 also americans and not only still call germans nazis. As lot of you call chineses ants or comunists.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    birdawg68 Uh oh, the fanatic is come finaly.
    ^nettech98 and you wonder why we have such opinion. He want to bomb us all...awww what a proud man.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    Mac: While you can certainly form opinions about the Soldiers you have met (right or not), you CANNOT generalize that ALL Soldiers are like the ones you have met.

    Any more than you can generalize that ALL Americans are one way, or ALL blacks, or ALL jews, or ALL Scots, etc., etc....

    The website I just checked says the US military has 313 MILLION personnel. How many have you met? 313? One millionth?

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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    That almost implies that the individuals portayed are guilty of atrocities. I would call BS on that.

    There are people being held and tortured right now in Bagram air base. Today. Still. Under Obama that claimed to be against it all. You think every soldier that creates the safe environment in which that torture can continue *isn`t* guilty of a war crime?

    ...
  56. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    "He want to bomb us all...awww what a proud man."

    Where did that come from exactly? Are you starting to grasp for straws?

    That`s an American idiom defined as "trying to find some way to succeed when nothing you choose is likely to work "

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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    >>>Are you prepared to say no Scot has ever committed what you classify as a "war crime"?<<<


    No, I`m not. But you`re missing the point. Ad hominem tu quoque: whether or not Scottish troops had committed atrocities, wouldn`t make the fact that US troops definitely *have* committed atrocities acceptable. But that is the pathetic fallacy I`ve heard `ordinary` Americans trotting out again and again: but Britain /Scotland does it too!!!. Frankly, it`s a pathetic argument.
  58. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    nettech98 i was talking about birdawg68 read his post. Was not talking about you.
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    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    nettech98 "Do something for our communities, our country. Voluntarily..." are you sure that for achieve this goals the only option is to be a soldier? Or is just the option most payed?
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    It`s not a pathetic argument when you take a "holier than thou" attitude towards the American military.

    It`s like BAD AMERICA! BAD AMERICA! What about Scotland? Don`t worry about Scotland! BAD AMERICA!

    You come off like EVERY or even MOST US Soldiers are law breaking murdering rapists when it just isn`t true!

    If nothing else, the US Military, through the use of technology and doctrine, has done more to minimize innocent deaths and collateral damage than any military in history, often to our own detriment.

    To dismiss that and focus on a few select incidents which may -or may not- have been outside the law is just ridiculous.

    Have American Soldiers broken the law? YES. Should they be held accountable? YES. Should America and the entire US Military be held in contempt for the actions of a few (who have acted OUTSIDE their orders and training and the law) NO!
  61. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    "are you sure that for achieve this goals the only option is to be a soldier? Or is just the option most payed?"

    No that`s obviously not the case and you know it. The US Military has tried to keep pace with civilian pay since it`s a volunteer force. Nobody joins the military to get rich.

    Sometimes people in this country (I can`t speak for Italy) do something for the greater good. Be it military, volunteer work, Peace Corps, etc, etc...

    It has to do with giving back to your community and country instead of just taking.
  62. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm
    nettech98 this is what they indoctrinate,they say you do somethingh for your country and this "something" is "taking" from other countries. But this maybe is just my opinion.
  63. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 40-49
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    well time to go to bed for me ,see you guys.
  64. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    Here`s a joke:

    MacGuffin walks into a club (in Glasgow).

    An American comes up to her and says: "I`m a millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht."

    MacGuffin thinks: Wow! All Americans must be millionaires with mansions and yachts!

    Then MacGuffin walks into a club (in a combat zone) (giving you the benefit of the doubt here) and a horny American Ranger comes up to her and says:

    "I`m a killer"

    MacGuffin thinks: "Wow! All American Soldiers must be rapists and murderers!"

    What`s the punch line? There isn`t one.

    GET IT???
  65. Profile photo of CaptKangaroo
    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm
    @MacGuffin- you really do have a sad pathology.
  66. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:54 pm
    "this "something" is "taking" from other countries"

    Really? Like we took all the oil in Iraq? Like we took all the territory we liberated? (Can any say Russia?)
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    eovogt Male 18-29
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    July 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    No usually it has to do with people not being able to get a job in a broke economy. If your joining the military to give back to your community now a days, your doing the wrong thing.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    July 5, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    Aw dammit, here I was getting all teary over the reunions, but holding it together pretty well, and then I had to push the "dog reunions" choice at the end. 8.]...
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    July 5, 2012 at 10:06 pm
    Most people I knew that went into the military did it for the money or the status. How animalistic can you be?
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    July 5, 2012 at 10:09 pm
    Have you ever noticed how much hot air comes out of people`s heads?
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    insanmonster Male 18-29
    291 posts
    July 5, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    There is one thing that it seems that everyone is missing in this conversation. Most of the US Military helps out in many other ways. For example national disaster help not only in the US but on foreign soil.

    Also because of the American Military budget over the last 200 some odd years technology has accelerated at an amazing pace that would not be possible without military funding.

    Lastly, I don`t think the Iraq/Afghani wars should have lasted this long but why aren`t they justified? First there was 9/11 (I know nothing to go with Iraq), what were we supposed to do...just shrug it off an go "Oh Well!"? That is why we went to war in Agfhanistan (hot bed of Al-Qaeda activity).

    Then there was Iraq, what would you do if you saw some kid (Kurds) being bullied and the adult (UN) was watching it happen and you could do something about it? You would step in a help out.

    I know,"The US should wait for the UN to give permission" well that
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    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
    2551 posts
    July 5, 2012 at 10:20 pm
    I`m fairly anti-military, but even I can`t help but smile at this.

    nettech98 - They meant hatred towards people they consider terrorists.
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    twitchy11B Male 18-29
    124 posts
    July 5, 2012 at 11:37 pm
    So Agentdumbass, we do it for the money or the status? ok money first, i got a couple hundred dollars extra and they did not take taxes while i was over there. i was making less then 30k a year. more then i needed to live on but if it was "for the money" then it would not have been enough to let people try to kill me for two years.

    So that leaves "status", almost no one that i meet day to day knows that i even served. family, some friends and some co-workers know. to be honest i will quite often down play my past `cas if they know then there are normally questions that i dont want to get into.

    i wanted to be a part of something bigger then myself, i wanted to do something with my life. and i feel that i have done that pretty well.

    oh and thank you, thank you for showing that you fell comfortable to exercise your freedom of speech. By the way, i and others like me have been paying, with blood, for those rights you trample. enjoy, and
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 5:09 am
    oh and thank you, thank you for showing that you fell comfortable to exercise your freedom of speech. By the way, i and others like me have been paying, with blood, for those rights you trample. ...

    There it is. The ridiculously self-entitled arrogance of the squaddie.

    Don`t believe your own hype. You weren`t fighting for anyone`s freedom. Iraq and Afghanistan never invaded the US. Those are just the pretty lies that Bush and co told you to make you feel better about going out to terrorise the civilians of another country on his behalf. Soldiers are never so unhappy as when civilians use the very freedom they claim to be fighting for to criticise them. If you really were fighting for our freedom, you`d be only too happy that people were using it. In reality, the only reason people do have some small freedoms is because we stand up to liars like Bush and Obama, and the petty thugs like you that they get to do their dirty work for them.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14328 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 6:42 am
    @MacGuffin

    Yes Afghanistan was a magical happy place that Al queda had no bases in what so ever! Of course you know that cause you served for da queenz! Keeping all us evil Americans in line overseas but wait that would mean you participated in these "evil" wars wouldn`t it? The problem with sterotypical Europeans summarized right there....
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    canusuck Male 30-39
    804 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 6:57 am
    wow, dusty right now
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14328 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 7:06 am
    @piperfawn

    Yes I`m sure the EU really cares about about the Syrian people and not that they`re one of your main oil suppliers LOL!!! Typical greaseball alot of talk with nothing to back it up...
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Does it make me evil that I didn`t feel anything until I saw the dog reunion?
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 10:43 am
    i cry everytime.
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    inaria Female 18-29
    1515 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    Well, regardless of what you think of the US military, you`d have to be pretty heartless not to feel something watching these reunions :3

    I got teary eyed >.<
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    @MacGuffin

    Yes Afghanistan was a magical happy place that Al queda had no bases in what so ever! Of course you know that cause you served for da queenz! Keeping all us evil Americans in line overseas but wait that would mean you participated in these "evil" wars wouldn`t it? The problem with sterotypical Europeans summarized right there....

    The only reason that `Al Qaeda` and their Taliban comrades were in Afghanistan at all, is that back when they were called the Mujahideen in the `80s and Ronnie Reagan wanted a way to boot the Russians out of Afghanistan, America supplied them with both money and weapons. America inflicted Osama Bin Laden on the Afghan people, then had the cheek to tear up their country to try and capture him once he had a foothold there and proved a problem for yourselves.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    And no, I never served in Afghanistan or in Iraq. I was a squaddie in the `90s, and most of my experience of working with Yanks comes from a laser target designator course I went on with them at that time.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    >>>Well, regardless of what you think of the US military, you`d have to be pretty heartless not to feel something watching these reunions :3

    I got teary eyed >.< <<<


    I`ll save my tears for their innocent victims .
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14328 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    @MacGuffin

    The alternative for the Afgans was being taken over by Russia hows that for gratefulness? You seem to think they dont want the world to burn along with the UK. You`re very wrong!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14328 posts
    July 6, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    I`ll save my tears for their innocent victims .

    LOL! if you think that`s bad your head would explode if you saw what Sadam did to his own people it`s been well documented by the US and the UK. I suppose you don`t want to see that though.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    July 7, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Dang you Macguffin. It`s supposed to be a heartwarming post, but you defecate all over the thread with your verbal diarrhea.
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    TheJ3553 Male 18-29
    145 posts
    July 7, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    @McGovern1981

    Well that`s good logic.

    "It`s okay guys! We might have killed innocent people but Sadam did it worser than us!"

    Flawless.

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