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Question Of The Day: Amusement Park Lines [Pic]


I-A-B Question of the Day: The Great Wheelchair Debate–A Two-Parter

Long story short, I-A-B. I was at a local amusement park this past weekend and was standing in line for over two hours with friends for a new ride that just opened. I personally would never have waited for 30 minutes let alone over 2 hours, but the couple that I was with had kids and they REALLY wanted to go on this particular ride that had just debuted.


As we get closer to the head of the queue, a family of four approach the head of the line and enter in the designated wheelchair access entrance. The ride attendant opens the gate, allows the family with the wheelchair in (the mom was in the wheelchair) and all four family members get the next car. Here”s the thing, the mom was able to “gingerly” lift herself from the wheelchair into the attraction”s car.


WTF! I get that people that are permanently in wheelchairs should get preferential treatment, but if you”re able to get in and out of a wheelchair on your own accord, should you get the same advantages that true handicapped people get?

And this leads me to my second question. If handicapped people want to be treated equally, shoudn”t they have to stand in line like the rest of us able-bodied chumps?



Where do you stand on the wheelchair issue, I-A-B?

I-A-B, should everyone in a wheelchair get to go to the front of a ride”s queue without waiting like everyone else?

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    Link: Question Of The Day: Amusement Park Lines - I-A-B, should everyone in a wheelchair get to go to the front of a ride`s queue without waiting like everyone else?
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    i hate amusement parks.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    With the exception of the make a wish foundation kids, I say make em wait.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    equality.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Where do you stand on the wheelchair issue, I-A-B?

    i lol`d a little
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    ledgehead Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    Get a wheelchair and go to the head of the line.
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    Dead_mind Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:35 pm
    Just couze you are in a wheel chair does not mean you can not stand up for a short time. 3 minutes is not a short time for most of them.
    Not all want to be "equal" most of them that lost the ability can be realy depressed. and ofc the line is not designed for wheelchairs. However they should get some kind of ticket that alowes them to wait outside the line. I once saw this... umh.. slow fella with a deformed head. they let him go again & again without waiting in line. I dint care much - he looked really happy. But maybe im not that selfish.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    I`m going to say they absolutely should go to the front of the line. There may be a couple people that abuse the system but there also will be people who can only be out for a very brief time before they are too sick. I say let them go on as many rides as they can. Plus us walkers take a lot of things for grated. This could be their way of running.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    She may have had a condition which isn`t always completely crippling, such as Relapsing Multiple Sclerosis, which varies over time. She may have been in a wheelchair permanently because she can only walk a short distance unassisted.

    As for the comment on equality - They deserve to be treated equally in all aspects of life where it`s possible. They are not physically equal to able-bodied people, so in certain areas, they deserve some concessions.

    Anyway, it`s just a damn rollercoaster; deal with it. If you really have a problem with it, break your legs so you can reap the many benefits of being disabled. (I hear you can get parking permits, too!)
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    krembill Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    I think that if they can sit comfortably while everyone else stands for the duration of the wait, they should wait like everyone else. With exceptions.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    I don`t understand why someone in a wheelchair goes to the front of the line to begin with..
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Also, do you expect her to sit in her wheelchair whilst in the line? That`s not practical at all, they take up a lot of room, and she`d contsantly be crashing into people`s ankles and shins.

    @krembill
    "sit comfortably"
    You are mind-numbingly moronic. Being stuck in a wheelchair all the time is not the least bit comfortable. Ever heard of pressure sores?
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    krembill Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm
    @marcus2
    "Ever heard of pressure sores?"

    Yeah, I got a pilonidal cyst from sitting on a desk for 8 hours a day you little sh*t.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    @krembill
    Well, in that case, you should know better than most that being forced to sit down all the time is awful. And at least you could stand up on occasion. Also, was "little sh*t" some kind of vague pun?
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    Burgh Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    When I would take my wife to the wheel chair access, our boys would be in line and we would board with them. We waited but didn`t have to shuffle with the crowd. We could have all of us just went on the rides without a wait but that seemed not so nice to do to others. She had limited mobility and could enter and exit the rides with some help.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Treat them equally, let them wait in line with everyone else.
    If they get preferred treatment and can go ahead, because their wheelchair doesn`t fit in the regular line for example, then just let maximum one friend go with them.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    You`re under the mistaken impression that handicapped people think in terms of `equal`. They are the first to realize that people are not `equal`. Never have been, never will be.

    The most that handicapped people are hoping for is not to have more obstacles placed in their way than necessary.

    The vast majority realize they will never climb mountains, but would like to have access to trails occasionally.

    In the case of the amusement park, that skip is for everyone involved. A wheelchair in line, especially when it`s a power-chair`, can be annoying to everyone involved.

    I`ve made use of the same system, but in our case I would have to pick up my girl and place her in the rollercoaster.

    She could also get a free movie ticket, but I always purchase one because once in the theater I will pick her up and place her in a seat with her friends.

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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    @MeGrendel
    Well said.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Just don`t go to amusement parks, it`s a horrid way to ruin a day.
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    elderban Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm
    If you look at it from the amusement park`s standpoint, would you rather deal with one upset person or have the AAPD, your state APD office and any and every PWD group out there on your case?
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    Ston Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    Wheelchair+1, fine. Wheelchair+3, not so much. Have 2 wait in line, then join them when they get to the head.

    Some people may be able to get in and out of a wheelchair with minimal/no assistance, but it`s entirely possible they would not be able to stand for any length of time unassisted.
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    Mr_Ike Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    Is it unfair? Kinda.

    But expecting someone in a wheelchair to use the same line as able-bodied people is stupid. Anyone suggesting it has probably never been in a crowd while in a wheelchair. I have (after a broken ankle) and I can say with confidence I never want to repeat that experience again. On top of that, most wait-lines aren`t wheelchair accessible to begin with.

    The woman in the question might be able to walk short distances but be unable to do so for any normal distance other than a few steps here and there. Standing in line for hours is probably out of the question entirely. She`s not in a wheelchair for the heck of it.

    (And to get into the "back entrance" usually requires a wheelchair pass, which you can only get if you can prove the person in the chair needs it and is unable to stand in line)
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    I think you should quite your day job and open a whinery, i sense you would make good whine.
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    utlanning07 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    I once went to Cedar Point with a group of friends and a gal who was paralyzed from the waist down. We first had to go get a wheelchair pass like Mr Ike said, and were required to wait until the rest of our group got to the front of the line. So no cuts.
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    wheezel Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    It`s not about whether or not wheelchair-bound guests are capable of waiting in line, it`s all about whether or not the actual queue is wheelchair-accessible.
    I was at disneyland the other week with a friend with a broken ankle. We waited through the entire 2 hour queue for Grizzly River Run, PLUS an additional 45 minutes at the end of the line where there`s a split on the loading ramp for people in wheelchairs (that other "normal" people in line didn`t have to wait in).
    It`s all in the design of the newer theme parks to make everything accessible to everyone. It`s the older parks that were built with absolutely none of this in mind, where wheelchairs get a pass instead of the parks spending the extra time and money to modernize the facilities.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    If I didn`t put `em in the wheelchair in the first place,I don`t care.
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    TheLebowski Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    "shoudn`t they have to stand in line like the rest of us"

    "Roll" in line you mean?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Rides are like movies.
    People want to see the movie when it comes out. The queues are ridiculous, the wait eternal.
    In 3 months time it is still the same movie, there is no silly queue; the rush is off, the price has dropped. I n 6 months the movie will will be on DVD for $5-10. If you are prepared to accept a time-slip in you entertainment schedule, you will pay less than half, have no wait, and spend the difference on beer to drink while you watch.
    Unless they close the ride down on safety issues, it will be just as good in 3 months: No waiting, and the time spared can be spent watching a 3-month old movie.
    Otherwise, follow the crowd, satisfy your need to be `up to date` in the entertainment world.
    Die poor.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    Forgot to add:
    Who cares if the free-loaders jump in on the back of the wheel-chair!
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    Unless they`re so badly sick that the day out is basically like a day release from hospital then they should be allowed to the front of the queue. Any other situation they should have to wait like everyone else, unless they`re happy enough being patronised by getting "special" treatment when it doesn`t suit them.
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    Dogwelder19 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    Let them go to the front of the line! Stop being selfish little pricks.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    lol, seriously fancy?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    1) In many cases, I see it in terms of relative convenience. Parking, for example. If I have to park 50 yards away from somewhere, it`s a minor inconvenience. To some people, it`s a much less minor inconvenience. So I`m fine with the most convenient parking being reserved for them - due to relative convenience it`s the fairest course of action.

    2) Being confined to a chair is a bona fide disadvantage. I`m fine with minor temporary advantages being granted as a result, such as queue-jumping. Again, it`s relative convenience.

    3) Other people with them is inevitable. What else can the rules be? "You can go on but your family can`t go with you".

    As for being able to get out of the chair, that`s irrelevant. There are a whole slew of conditions that make it possible to move a bit but no more than a couple of yards, maybe from one chair to another, e.g. her knees are knacked and she can stand briefly with a lot of pain.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    if a person can `gingerly` extricate herself from her wheelchair, that doesn`t make her less handicapped. that simply makes her easier to take care of; mercenary attitude, i know. as a person who has (at times) real difficulty in getting around i can tell you that i wouldn`t bother trying to get to the head of a line; i`d just forego the ride. i prefer, as much as i can, to keep my physical problems to myself, but that`s just me.
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    Anyone who waits 2 hours on line for anything deserves whatever they get.
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    nofatchicks Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    It was the new ride at six flags, wasn`t it?
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    sounds like that lady is a little bitch.
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    faaaaq Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    they only want to be treated equally when its beneficial to them. same goes for every "Special needs" group
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    gothmo Female 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    One of those things if they want to be treated as equals they should wait, if they want to take advantage of stuff like that and jump ahead, then they`re clearly not equal. If it`s a mental handicap I`m all for them going ahead either way.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    A friend of mine got so sick of lines at airport security he asks for a wheelchair every time he flies. He gets taken to the front of the security line and let on the plane first. Nobody ever asks for proof and he claims it is "the only way to fly."
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    bophus Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    i am a 33 year old male with a degenerative knee problem. my knees need to be replaced, but doctors wont do it, because i would need them redone several times in my lifetime. I have trouble standing or walking any period of time. i also have a birth defect from my L3 vertebrae through my coccyx where it is all one bone, which causes severe back pain sometimes. i could get a handicap plaque for my car and line jump passes at amusement parks. I dont, because i am able to walk for a bit, then i sit down. I see this all the time though. People in the handicapped spot at a store, get out and run into the store and then run out. One woman told me (after i told her she should park in a handicapped spot if she is able to run) that she "has migraines".

    The gross majority of people who use handicap services (parking, line jumps, etc.) absolutely need them. Then there is the minority of people who dont.

    i can see where Fancy is coming from. There is a pro
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    icklevamp Female 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    Disabled parking is fine cause it`s harder to cross large distances in a chair or with a disabiliy, disabled seats in the theatre is fine cause if you can`t sit on a normal seat then you need something else, but you can wait in a wheelchair just the same as you can wait on your feet, so this isn`t cool.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    faaaaq-"they only want to be treated equally when its beneficial to them."

    To quote "Much Ado About Nothing", `You, sir, are an ass`.

    Every group has an element that is out to scam the system. Honest members of that group think they are asswipes, also.

    Do you have a problem with people in wheelchairs having access to restaurants, shops and groceries? Or do you believe they should all be `kept out of site` so as not to hurt your delicate sensibilities?

    The vast majority of physically handicapped people realize they will never be `equal` to a championship runner.

    Much as the vast majority on this site realize that you will never be `equal` to most people mentally.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Has fancylad considered for a moment that this might not be a wheelchair issue?

    Most amusement parks have special gates for wheelchair access, but require the same wait time as those IN line. (Disney, Six Flags, ect.)

    BUT..some of those same amusement parks offer a pass. For example: At Six Flags you can pay extra ($35-$90 depending on level) to purchase a Flash Pass. They give you a device that you scan at the end of a line, then you can go off and do something else. When the wait time has expired your beeper goes off and you go directly to the head of the line.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    I understand if the normal queue has stairs, and they have a wheelchair accessible ramp...so long as they still wait the amount of time they would have if they were in line. I`m not big on "trying to make up for for the sh*t you have to deal with in life." I mean, everybody suffers, and it`s not always in a visible fashion. Not to mention, it`s a little condescending to say "awww, you poor thing. Well we`ll take pity on you, and give you this special chance!"

    Now, in the case of a mental handicap, I fully agree with letting them get on the ride immediately. Not for pity`s sake, but rather because some people with mental conditions might not do well being made to sit in a queue like that. They might not quite understand it, and it could distress them. Therefore by all means they should go to the front.
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    MrLill Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    Don`t hate. This is why everyone should know someone whose crippled. I was with one at knotts berry farm and rode every rollercoaster and thrill ride within 4 hours, NO LINES. Y`all can hate while I ride my ass off and have the time of my life!
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    Those bound to a wheel chair should NOT get to jump to the front of the line. They sit in the roller coaster just like the rest of us. They can wait just like the rest of us. Handicap preferential treatment shouldn`t be confined to activities in which they have a disadvantage. Like walking from the back of the parking lot at wal-mart so they get closer parking spots. But regardless of crippling condition they should have to wait just as long as anyone else for entertainment purposes.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    I recognize that line. I recognize the wall decorations.

    It`s a small world after-all
    it`s a small world after all
    It`s a small world after all
    It`s a small, small world.

    it`s a world of laughter, a world or tears
    its a world of hopes, its a world of fear
    theres so much that we share
    that its time we`re aware
    its a small world after all

    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small, small world

    There is just one moon and one golden sun
    And a smile means friendship to everyone.
    Though the mountains divide
    And the oceans are wide
    It`s a small small world
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    I went to Disney with family friends where the daughter had appendicitis only a week or two before going and needed a wheelchair. She didn`t need to sit in it 100% of the time, but she did need to sit on it the majority of the time. Just because she could get out of it doesn`t mean she didn`t deserve to get moved to the front of the line. If you wanna argue that no people with wheelchairs should get moved to the line then go ahead, but the ones who do need a wheelchair but can still get out of the wheelchair aren`t any less needy. A few people getting moved ahead in line isn`t enough of a problem for everyone else compared to having them sit in line in a wheelchair, imo. And it costs money to use a wheelchair there, so it`s kinda like paying for a fast pass.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    Has anyone else seen handicapped parking meters..?
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    Siolas Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 6:25 pm
    make them wait I mean hell they have a nice seat to wait in.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    I`ll be damned, I`m finding myself agreeing with Lillian on this.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Just because you can get out of a chair, doesn`t mean you can stand for hours in a line. But, since they are in the chair, they could just get in line and sit their way in turn.

    The problem is many of the lines have stairs and multi-levels. Things chairs can`t do. Also, when my cousin`s here he gets a handicap pass and we breeze through all the lines. I admit it`s handi.... get it? "Handi"

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    MrLill Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    You don`t need a wheelchair even, just a handicap pass. They give you a paper that says you can cut. No one cares about who uses it really, but you need the paper for the privilege. So, you don`t need a wheelchair to cut, just a condition.
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    YANKmyDOODLE Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    really? stop whining about your wait and suffer like everybody else.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    @Gerry1of1

    Many eons ago I got stuck in the `It`s a small world` ride in Disney World.

    After 45 minutes stuck in the asian section of the ride (where `It`s a small world` chorus sounded more like the Dink Dinks from `Spaceballs`, `Ding Da Ding Ding Dinnng Da Ding`) I was ready to swim for it.
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    itsdylanc Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    Depends on the ride. If the queue is set up like it is at Disney World, (ie; Most amusement lines involve stairs) then I don`t mind waiting an extra minute or two to assure the safety of others. At the very least, there isn`t an epidemic-sized abuse of the system. Most people who use it, actually need it for physical purposes. However, if you are the kind of person who just got out of surgery or something, that`s an abuse of the system, because most of those people shouldn`t be riding at all due to the extreme health risks. Additionally, I also believe that able-bodied people who use handicap entrances to cut in line should be thrown out of the park 100% of the time unless they are actually accompanying someone who is handicapped in his or her party/group.
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    Fml Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Two types of persons:
    My grandmother 65yo had both knees replaced by prosthetics and had arthritis, she traveled a lot and she would not use her handicapped status to get any preferential treatment which was a bummer for the who ever got to go on her trips with her as I had to walk really slow trough the terminal. She said as long as she could physically walk no matter how painful or slow she would not use the space of people who really needed it.
    My wife 33 yo got a small surgery on her heel she HAD to walk as per doctor recommendation but she spent two months parking in handicapped and using the supermarket scooters just because she could.
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    MidPacific Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    cut her some slack. didn`t you just see what happened to her on that escalator.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    @Crackrjack. I, too, in spite of past, er, things, find myself agreeing with Lillian (havent seen her post in a while, btw). The only caveat...in certain situations, the wheelchair is an advantage, it being easier to sit rather than stand, and it would be more equitable to have handicapped and non-handicapped treated the same.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    DAMN YOU FANCYLAD!!!!!
    Thanks to your stupid post I`ve had that STUPID song in my head
    ALL DAMN DAY!!!!!!

    What did I ever do to you to deserve this? *whimper*


    it`s a world of laughter, a world or tears
    its a world of hopes, its a world of fear
    theres so much that we share
    that its time we`re aware
    its a small world after all

    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small, small world
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    DinVen Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 9:43 pm
    A lot of paraplegic or multiple sclerosis patients can, thanks to upper body strength and will alone, mobilize themselves from the chair to something else. Even when walking is totally out of the question.

    Then there is a group of patients with lowered function who "enjoy" the privilege of a maximum walking distance of 10-100 feet. Meaning they need a wheel chair for almost everything, except sleeping.

    It should be clear to everyone who have imagined having a maximum walking distance this short, how incredibly tough life becomes even just for a day. So yes, wheel chair users need a break and get special privilege.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    When I was a kid, my cousin Jean-Anne and I wanted to see the parade at Disneyland but we couldn`t get to the front of the crowd for a clear view. So we stole two wheelchairs that were waiting unattended at a ride exit. The crowds just parted for us and let us through. As far as I know, the owners of those chairs are still on the TeaCups, unable to get off.

    And before you say I was a rotten kid, Jean-Anne dared me to do it! I was 13 and she was 12, what was I supposed to do!!! It was a DARE!
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    metalhannes Male 18-29
    144 posts
    July 18, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    That`s it this site has become another reddit board.
    Epic win/fail pictures everyone`s already seen.
    Pointless debates that are just posted to have something to argue about.
    Repost of reposts of reposts.
    I`m out, goodbye all.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    July 18, 2012 at 11:01 pm
    this is truly the stupidest thing I have ever seen on IAB.

    congrats IAB, you have exceeded your ow low standards.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    July 18, 2012 at 11:27 pm
    If ANYONE had to stand in line for two hours for ANYTHING, they should be handed wheelchairs to sit down. And then just roll with the flow.I don`t see why, a person in a wheelchair,sitting on their ass due to injury, or being handiCAPABLE,can`t wait in line like the rest of us stooges.IMHO.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    July 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm
    @Gerry-I did the same thing at Disney world.But it was my brother and two friends and we were 18 years old.I got in the wheelchair, and acted as if I had a mental problem and he wheeled us right to the front. As soon as it was over, I stood up and we went on our merry way.A few peeps got angry and said some crap.I told them to f*ck off.I don`t care.Let me burn in hell.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
    1310 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 12:27 am
    Oh, don`t lie Gerry! I bet you did it the last time you went to an amusement park too =oP
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    blackcatseye Female 30-39
    685 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:02 am
    Fancy how much do you make a year from this website? Enough to pay VIP at an amusement park I bet. You constantly post derogatory items, especially aimed at women, and now you want to start with the disabled? If they are a one income family because the mother is disabled they probably had to save up all year for that amusement park, and she may have only gone on that ride for the sake of her kids, for their enjoyment, because her condition whatever it is may have caused her considerable pain, with the extra g-force. Who cares how long the line was? How much longer out of your entire lifetime did you have to wait for the next ride/car? It probably still took her all day to get there and home again. Just because she could take a couple of steps doesn`t mean she was faking, could she actually stand in line for two hours? I don`t think so. Plus, the amusement park have an obligation to her safety from other customers, insurance and all that. Get over yourself and grow up, dumba$$.
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    Golkar Male 18-29
    391 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:48 am
    Capability does not equal ease.
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    jessyfish Female 18-29
    90 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 2:15 am
    Instead of just letting them go by, why not build the lines to not include stairs so that they can wait just like everyone else. It`s BS to say that they can`t sit on their chair and wait in line like everyone else. Don`t they all just want to get treated like everyone else? Well then wait in line and find a parking spot wherever there is an open spot, like everyone else.
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    Adcro Male 18-29
    369 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 3:06 am
    Americans still use the word "handicapped"? Really? You might as well say "deformed".

    And I imagine them going to the front of lines is because everything else through the day probably takes them so long to do, just going from A to B etc, that shaving time off their wait in lines would help out a bit.

    But no, I don`t agree with it really.
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    puppies04 Male 18-29
    686 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 3:59 am
    How does somebody in a wheelchair "stand in line"????
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
    2508 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 4:00 am
    "Capability does not equal ease."

    And your point is?

    I have two bad knees from all of the running I did while in the Marine Corps. To walk around an amusement park all day would be difficult for me. But out of pride, I would not expect hundreds of people to let me in front of them just because my knees are killing me. That`s selfish and stupid. You`re either able to enjoy a theme park, or you`re not. There should be no in-between.
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    gladhatter Male 50-59
    219 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:07 am
    ....and what about all those EMPTY choice parking spots in the local Wal-Mart parking lot!?!?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:25 am
    I heard you can rent wheelchairs at Disneyland and then people in the group take turns to play cripple.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
    2553 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:45 am
    They should wait in line just like anyone else.
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    Sistarose Female 30-39
    373 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:46 am
    Serves you right for not bringing a wheel chair as well.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36194 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:47 am

    It`s always bugged me they don`t have to pay for street parking.
    The rest of us have to pay, but if you have the magic blue symbol, all handicap parking if free.
    What`s up with that? They don`t gots quarters?

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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
    500 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 5:57 am
    No problem at all. I have a nice hammer. You have shins and kneecaps. I can provide you with a legitimate reason to cut any line in any amusement park of your choice and still be able to waddle a few meters here and there.

    So when can you stop by?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 6:52 am
    Adcro-"Americans still use the word "handicapped"?"

    Yes, because that`s the word used to describe the condition of not being fully capable.

    If you`re one of the idiots who think `differently abled` or some other New Age B.S. is more appropriate, then you demonstrate your ignorance.

    No handicapped person I know (and I know hundreds) is bothered by the term `handicapped`.

    They ARE, on the other hand, bothered by idiots who try to make them feel better by thinking that `if you change the language, you change the condition`.

    gladhatter-"what about all those EMPTY choice parking spots in the local Wal-Mart parking lot!?!?"

    I`ve NEVER seen an empty handicapped spot at a Walmart..They`re always taken by welfare cows with no trouble walking (waddling) but think they `deserve` it anyway.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 7:02 am
    Try that s**t at a waterpark!!!
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    pumba62 Male 40-49
    1018 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 7:10 am
    SistaRose.... I was just thinking the same thing .....If the world figures this out then the handicap line becomes longer ....and able bodies get on quicker !!!! Spread the word ...go to amusement park in Wheelchair have someone push you around ( you could trade off when they get tired) and jump the que
  84. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 7:26 am
    Americans still use the word "handicapped"? Really? You might as well say "deformed".

    People who understand what words mean still use the word "handicapped". It`s far better than the common replacement "disabled".

    Take a look at what the words actually mean:

    Handicapped means `has a disadvantage imposed on them`. It`s etymology is rooted in gambling on horse racing and the original disadvantage was a weight added in the saddle to change the odds on the horse winning, but it soon entered common usage to refer to any disadvantage.

    Disabled means `made useless, serving no purpose whatsoever`.

    `handicapped` is a neutral and accurate description. `disabled` is a grotesque insult. You`d be hard pressed to come up with a more insulting word for a person. The fact that it`s favoured by some people only goes to show that some people are determined to remain ignorant for political reasons.
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    thebigsmoke Male 30-39
    26 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 7:38 am
    I`m sure if the person in that wheelchair could trade places with you, they would in a heartbeat.
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    ssalty Male 60-69
    228 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Most of these comments point out the general ignorance of the writer. I have been on DISABILITY for ten years. I used to gripe about empty `blue` parking spots when I had to park a half block across the lot. That was when I could walk a good distance. Now I can`t. Yes, being handicapped or disabled gets a person some advantages sometimes. Do we like it? No. Do we abuse the privilege? Most don`t, but since ignorance doesn`t care, some do.
    In any case, now or before, when my legs worked well, I wouldn`t wait in line -- then or now -- 2 hours for anything. I`ve never waited at a restaurant if they said we had to wait more than ten minutes before a table was available. There are other restaurants and other rides. That `couple` you were with is ruining their children by making them bow down to the system. Sheep are trained that way in some places during shearing season. BAAA!
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    sparki1980 Male 30-39
    329 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 8:40 am
    "people that are permanently in wheelchairs should get preferential treatment"

    I don`t get this. They shouldn`t be allowed to skip even if mom was fully handicapped. They, like you, paid the same amount to enter the park.. and they, like you, should have to give up 2 hours waiting in line... While society should be made accessible to them (with ramps, wider doors and even automatic doors, etc), society should not treat their disability by making them more special. For frak sake, you had to wait 2 hours in line... STANDING. If they were in the same line, they`d atleast have a chair with wheels.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
    738 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 8:45 am
    Did anyone bother to measure the width of the corrals? could the wheelchair fit and make all the turns? If yes, make them wait in line like everyone else.
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    wiscesq Male 30-39
    112 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 8:47 am
    My Dad was in a wheelchair. Part of the reason they let you skip the line is to be nice to the handicapped person. The other reason is that the lines themselves usually aren`t wheelchair accessible (too narrow, too many switchbacks with no turn radius, etc.).
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    wiscesq Male 30-39
    112 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 9:06 am
    Wow- I`d wish I`d read the rest of the comments before I posted. I was waaayyyy too sensible.

    I am speechless that so many commenters take offense to letting handicapped people skip the line.

    Let`s recap- you`re a healthy well-fed American spending the day in an amusement park with your friends and family... you see the park employees allow a person who has spent their entire life in a wheelchair bypass the non handicap-accessible line and get onto the ride without waiting quite as long as you have... and you feel... outrage? anger? you feel like you`ve been victimized in some way?

    This isn`t even a "first-world problem". This is an over-entitled, egocentric, arrogant, clueless, compassionless, @ssh*le problem. God forbid you brainless spoiled brats ever have to deal with the slightest bit of real adversity in your lives. I *weep* for humanity.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
    2310 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 9:13 am
    I don`t think they should get good parking spaces. If you think you can drive then you should deal with all the sucky parts of driving. Like being stuck behind disabled people who drive too slow and not finding a close parking spot. In fact I think all people who drive should have to have their reflexes and ability to concentrate tested. In fact I think there should be a tiered driving license system. One tier for those who are barely competent and another for those who are capable. The poor drivers should have to stick to surface roads and streets with low speed limits. The good drivers should have access to high speed lanes on the freeway. Oh and teenagers that get into a wreck should have their licenses taken away for a year or two and take remedial training with much harder tests.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
    2310 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Well I guess 3 tiers would be needed.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 9:34 am
    onoffonoffon-"I don`t think they should get good parking spaces."

    Man, I can`t beleive the amount of ignorance on display here.

    There is a reason the handicapped are usually the closest to the door (sometimes they are not).

    Let`s say they place them in the back of the lot. The person in the wheelchair has to negotiate the rows of cars. Have you ever tried to spot a person in a wheelchair around the fender of a car as you are trying to back out? They are harder to see, and have a harder time jumping out of the way of idiots who are not paying attention.

    In a big parking lot, those closest are reserved for handicapped for safety and liability reasons.

    The rest of your opinion just futher demonstrates your ignorance. It`s a good thing there`s not a `tiered` system for using the internet...the dumb people (such as yourself) would be banned for life.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6651 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Apparently it is news to some people but being handicapped really sucks. Over the years civilised society has made a bit of an effort to make it suck slightly less (parking places, special toilets, that sort of thing).

    If you find yourself resenting that take a moment to reflect and then punch yourself repeatedly in the face for being a truly horrible person.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 10:11 am
    @LordJim

    Couldn`t agree more.

    Is your life really so sorry that you having to walk an extra fifty feet makes you jealous of a parking space for a person who has spent their lives wishing they could walk just a few steps, period?

    If so, I pity you, as your disability is of your own making.
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    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Parking spaces is one thing (onoff youre an idiot) But going to the front of the line because you`re too fat or lazy to walk around the park is bullsh*t. If you`ve eaten yourself to a point that your body cant withstand waiting in line like the rest of the world, maybe you should go home and practice not eating.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6651 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 11:15 am
    Tracie,

    Welcome to IAB. I hope your life continues to be so perfect that you never need to develop a sense of empathy.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 11:41 am
    @TracieIAB

    Yes, because THIS Girl has lived a life of gluttony and sloth and should NEVER be allowed to have a good time or be in any place where TracieIAB may see her and offend her tender sensibilities.


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    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    you two are idiots, he didnt say a poor little disabled girl was carried onto the ride...he said the family skipped the entire line and then the woman, with no help from anyone else, was able to get out of her wheel chair and onto the ride, which sounds TO ME like shes a perfectly capbably human being who just didnt feel like waiting like everyone else. And THAT is complete BULLSH*T. If you knew how to read and interperet words you would realize that your post doesn`t even apply to what i just said. Nice try tho with the picture.
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    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    and no Lordjim, im not going to feel empathy for someone who is lazy, or someone that cares so little about their body that they cant move. You made yourself that way, not my problem.
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    therealpixie Female 60-69
    54 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Hmm, they`re not really "standing" in line are they? If their chairs don`t fit in the queues, give a freaking marker to the person where they would be in line, and let `em wait in the handicapped area to board when it`s their turn. They`re not time handicapped.
  102. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    TracieIAB-"you two are idiots, he didnt say a poor little disabled girl was carried onto the ride"

    Actually, you`ve managed to demonstrate that you can not follow the discussion of a thread. The OP was of a particular person, and asked `where do you stand on the wheelchair issue?`, the general discussion since then has ranged from valid points to the benefits of the system to inane ramblings of ignorant people (wanna guess which one you fall under?)

    While it is possible that she was a `perfectly capbably human being`, it`s equally possible that she was not. It entirely possible that she requires a wheelchair, but is able to transfer herself (a BIG help to her family, btw).

    If YOU know how to read and interpret words you would realize that this discussion has long since devolved into a GENERAL DISCUSSION of handicap accessibility.

    TracieIAB-"You made yourself that way, not my problem."

    And you made yourself ignorant...no
  103. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
    6651 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    Tracie,

    First, no mention of obesity was made in the post. Being able to transfer from a wheelchair to a chair with some level of independence is often one of the few independant acts someone can retain.

    Second, obesity can be the result of bad decisions about lifestyle, but it is also very often the consequence of not having a choice in the first place. If a kid is seriously obese at seven it`s pretty harsh to say it is their own fault. They should have been more like you.

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    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    ACTUALLY MeGrendel, you saying it is possible that she was perfectly capable after posting a picture of a defenseless little girl, " doesn`t even apply to what i just said". Thats just you posting a tear-jerking picture to try and get your point across.
    And if you think i read the numerous pages of posts before posting my thoughts, you`d be wrong. I posted on the story, not on the conversations that you may or may not have been having with other people 50 posts ago. My thoughts on the wheel chair issue, which was the question, is what i posted. If youre capable of getting in and out of a wheel chair, youre capable of waiting on things just like everyone else, Hell even if your not capable of getting in and out of one, just like Pixie said youre not time disabled. WAIT YOUR TURN.
  105. Profile photo of TracieIAB
    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    And LordJim you are right, he did not specify whether or not the woman looked like she was truly disabled, but that is the picture i got in my head while reading this story, and i dont know where you all are from, but from where im from, the percent of people in wheel chairs that actually need them versus the people who are fat and lazy is like 10/90 and it disgusts me. Part of the reason you think you need that wheel chair is because youre using it instead of walking! And i hate that children are raised fat and then in turn grow up to be obese, but thats just another excuse for obese people to not take care of their bodies. Youre a grown man/woman and you now have the choice whether or not you want to be like that.
  106. Profile photo of TracieIAB
    TracieIAB Female 18-29
    10 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    Point is, we all have problems. I could see taking someone that is autistic to the front because being in one place for a long time around a lot of people could be a problem. I dont agree with the wheel chair tho, IM SORRY! you can think im a terrible person if you want but i dont think its fair that just because you have a visible problem displayed for everyone to see that your problem becomes more important than everyone elses, and your problem exempts you from having to deal with every day trials, like standing in a long a** line.
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    xoxnameless Female 18-29
    208 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    They are not unable to wait in line, I think the wheelchair access point should be made available when they get to the front of the line like everyone else. They`re just people too.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Only an non-nice individual would wait two hours in line at an amusement park. That`s my opinion.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    TracieIAB-" if you think i read the numerous pages of posts before posting my thoughts, you`d be wrong."

    So you admit you post from a point of ignorance.

    TracieIAB-"youre capable of getting in and out of a wheel chair, youre capable of waiting on things just like everyone else"

    Sorry, that does not follow. My girl can get into and out of her wheelchair on her own, but could never stand and walk the line `just like everyone else`.

    TracieIAB-"WAIT YOUR TURN."

    Maybe the park was being nice. None of your business. Maybe she had a Flash Pass and had signed up for the ride earlier. Again, non of your business.

    TracieIAB-"you can think im a terrible person if you want "

    Not terrible, just ignorant.
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    dweezil Female 18-29
    32 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Many amusement parks were not designed with the handicap in mind. Take Disney land for example. The original theme park gives out passes because many of the lines cannot accommodate wheel chairs. Then directly next to Disney Land is California Adventure park, which was more recently built. There they require all handicap people to wait in line just like others. The rides were built to have lines which would accommodate wheel chairs.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6651 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    `that is the picture i got in my head while reading this story,`

    Fair enough.
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    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
    1081 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Oh screw it..I would let a handicapped person go in front of me, It does not bother me..and I have shown kindness to many people that are handicapped because I would just imagine myself in their shoes..unfortunately I have encountered a lot of people in wheel chairs that are not very polite ,even though I was polite to them..I have been cussed out, and nearly ran over with those motorized scoot abouts, without an excuse me or I am sorry..I would just get dirty looks like "why the hell are you in my way"..some of them do have that sense of entitlement..Not all but some do and unfortunately I encountered the rude ones..
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    July 19, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    I don`t believe in special treatment, but just because some one can get in and out of a wheelchair doesn`t mean they aren`t disabled. My mother can walk an entire supermarket if she`s pushing a carriage but she can`t manage a 4 inch high curb. She`s sure as hell disabled.
    Also, they let disabled people on amusement park rides? I`m pretty sure a roller coaster would kill my mother.
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    Izroth Female 30-39
    154 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    I think this needs to be said...you can`t make everyone happy!!
    This is a major part of why we don`t have world peace, people will always see themselves as more needy, more important than the person next to them.
    If we would all just understand that it takes all kinds of people to make the world go around and look the other way instead of making an issue.
    Did anyone care to ask her how she was disabled??...nope not one, maybe if you heard her story you would feel compassion for her, but instead you make assumptions, and of course not in her favor of what is wrong...she could look healthy and lively but may have only weeks to live...would you feel pity for her then and not feel bad that her family only has so much time with her and going to the front of the line helped make the occasion better, so be it. You don`t walk in her shoes, nor anyone elses, just grow up and learn to accept things as they are, not what they should be!!!
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    3382 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    Meh who cares. I figure if you are disabled you already have most everything in life more difficult than a normal healthy person does. Why does this bother anyone that`s not handicapped again?
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    photomstr Male 50-59
    766 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 1:49 am
    Just how many wheel chair handicaps cut in each day?
    I thought so . . . shut up and wait!
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    that1joshguy Male 18-29
    232 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    I have acute cerebral palsy, I can walk but i drag my feet and my balance is poo, when I was younger (I`m 28 now)and less active it was way worse. when I was younger we went to Disney world and I was in a wheelchair because walking the park would have been damn near impossible having one of my parents forced to lug me around once my legs gave. I do believe there are people who milk the system but I also believe I`ve earned the right to park a little closer (yes I do drive), I don`t use the handicapped entrances into rides anymore because I don`t need to but more power to those who really need it, whether they look like they need it or not I`d give you my 28 years of CP if it meant I could have done lots of stuff as a kid and I`m sure anyone with a legit disability would agree.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    the woman, with no help from anyone else, was able to get out of her wheel chair and onto the ride, which sounds TO ME like shes a perfectly capbably human being who just didnt feel like waiting like everyone else.

    Which only means that YOU are ignorant.

    Here`s a fairly common example:

    A person can walk some yards if they`ve got something to hold them up and they can take the pain. So they can get themself from a wheelchair into a chair in a ride next to it. They can`t stand unaided and they can`t stand supported for more than a few minutes and they can`t manage more than a few yards holding onto something.

    That isn`t a hypothetical example. I know people like that. There are many more people like that who I don`t know. There are a fair few medical conditions that have that sort of result.

    Some people with no use of their legs at all could probably move from one chair to another purely with upper body strength.

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