Neil deGrasse Tyson Is A Movie Critic Now [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 5 years ago in Science

If it"s good enough for Tyson, it"s good enough for me.
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Male 139
XD Neil DeGrasse Tyson is quickly becoming one of my favorite people. If I used Twitter I would definitely follow him.
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Male 500
it was good enough for him so it must be good enough for you
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Male 5,811
@MacGuffin: You said he doesn`t get to work for NASA any more and he never worked for NASA. At least get your facts straight instead of implying you actually knew. Getting funding doesn`t mean you work for them.

Also your glaring ignorance of the field of science would make me lol if it weren`t so pathetic. But I`m sure your armchair refereeing of who is allowed to be public in science must make you feel smart. I`ll take the Harvard grad who actually has publications over the computer nerd who hasn`t done anything of note herself.
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Female 2,602

[quote]Wow, I didn`t know you had to make a groundbreaking discovery in science to be credible.[/quote]
Well, there you go, you learn something every day. Next week we learn that restaurant critics` opinions on food isn`t nearly so important as the opinions of people that have actual cooking skills. But hey - NDT still has more followers on Twitter than any of those other loser scientists with their actual scientific achievements, right? Bwwwwwwwaaaahahahahhaaa!!! :-D

[quote]You`re also wrong in that he never actually worked for NASA[/quote]
I believe what I actually said was "NASA - NDT was so popular there that he doesn`t even get to work for them any more", but thankyou for playing, you`ve been a great contestant, etc.
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Male 5,811
[quote]I can`t think of even one striking scientific discovery he`s made.[/quote]
Wow, I didn`t know you had to make a groundbreaking discovery in science to be credible. Because it must be soooo easy to make paradigm-altering discoveries in science, let alone astrophysics. He`s championing the cause for investment in science and space exploration, when everyone else is seemingly content to let it die. Your expectations are ridiculously high, he`s never said that he`s the best thing to happen to science, or even that he`s the best scientist out there. He may be attention whoring on twitter, but like I said he`s using the tools at his disposal to relate to the masses, and if he wants to b*tch about the night`s sky in a movie who are you to say "Don`t say that"? It`s his account he can say what he wants.

You`re also wrong in that he never actually worked for NASA, don`t know where you`re getting that from. He`s gotten funding from NASA but that`s it.
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Female 2,602

Even Nobel Prizes (of which he hasn`t got one anyway) on their own don`t really mean anything - look at Obama, who got one after only two weeks in office, merely for not being George W Bush. Richard Feynman, whom you mentioned earlier, knew the difference between wearing fine clothes, medals and awards, and actually achieving something meaningful. Feynman`s father was a uniform maker, and he often used to recount how his father taught him the difference between merely having human accolades bestowed upon you and acting a peacock in public, and actually achieving something important or unique.

And as for NASA - NDT was so popular there that he doesn`t even get to work for them any more.

Can you think of anything that NDT has actually *done*? I can think of plenty of criticism he`s dished out, and plenty of examples of him attention whoring, but I can`t think of even one striking scientific discovery he`s made. Can you?
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Female 2,602

[quote]@MacGuffin: You`re correct, having dozens of publications and books, 17 honorary doctorates, the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal, the Isaac Asimov award, and his doctorate from Harvard mean little. I`d also say he`s wasting his time attempting to educate laymen about science and why it`s important, but as long as he does it I don`t have to.[/quote]
Honorary doctorates don`t mean anything - they`re just the institutional version of fanoism. "Dr" Billy Graham has twenty of them, and has turned down nearly twice that many.

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Male 5,811
@MacGuffin: You`re correct, having dozens of publications and books, 17 honorary doctorates, the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal, the Isaac Asimov award, and his doctorate from Harvard mean little. I`d also say he`s wasting his time attempting to educate laymen about science and why it`s important, but as long as he does it I don`t have to.
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Female 2,602

@patch: Feynman *was* an attention whore. He was also interesting, and a fantastically-successful Nobel Prize winning physicist to boot, which is what makes his attention-seeking more excusable in his case. My point about NDT, is that he`s *nothing but* an attention whore. He`s not contributed anything meaningful to science himself. He`s just a pointless perpetual critic, that gives his unsolicited opinion on everything from atheism to films. That`s why NASA showed him the door, and he finds himself in a dead-end job running a planetarium rather than being involved in actual meaningful research. He`s a self-publicist with no real substance, nothing more.
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Male 5,811
@MacGuffin: Asimov, Einstein, Feynman, all of these people may have been "attention whores" if the internet had been around at their time. NDT is attempting to get Americans thinking about science and space again, and he`s using the popular platforms of his day to do this. Are tweets about movies doing this? No. He`s just trying to stay relevant and tweeting everyday only about science matters bores the general public, who he is trying to inspire. But it`s not his fault his tweets are broadcast by others to people not in his followers. It seems to me you more dislike the hype around NDT than the man himself. People like you and Gerry are just sick of seeing him, that`s all.
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Male 741
I had a Ford MacFairlane once.
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Female 2,602

[quote]I find it astonishing that you manage to work up such a level of angry over issues that does not relate to you in any way or form. The only thing that`s happening is: You see something, and you enrage.[/quote]
Actually I was just answering a question I was asked, but if you`re a fanboi that`s impressed by NDT I`m guessing you`re the type of person that`s easily astonished.
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Female 2,602

[quote]That was part of a series for bigthink.com. Here`s the link to his other videos for them:[/quote]
Thanks, I think I can live without them.
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Male 135
@MacGuffin

I find it astonishing that you manage to work up such a level of angry over issues that does not relate to you in any way or form. The only thing that`s happening is: You see something, and you enrage.

Your taxes aren`t affected by twitter nor NDT, your monthly period, assuming you aren`t all dried up should come on frequent intervals, and your food doesn`t have NDT`s pubic hair on them.

So what exactly is the problem ? If not being angry for the sake of being angry.

As for people who get a lot of spotlight. There is usually a reason. In NDT`s example he has the rare combination of being an actual accomplished scientist with a knack for public speaking. He hosts(ed?) NOVA Science Now, a public channel seeking to relay science to the general populace, had a role in debunking Pluto as a planet, and has released at lesat 12 books.

Getting the populace interested in science is important, especially the younger audience.

Why
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Male 9
@MacGuffin

That was part of a series for bigthink.com. Here`s the link to his other videos for them: http://tiny.cc/nzoihw

Most, if not all, of these videos are him answering a question that was asked off camera.

A lot of interviews cut out the interviewer/questioner and are edited to look like the subject of the interview is just talking to the camera/person watching the video. It`s often done when the person taking the interview isn`t well known. This is actually rather common practice. It creates a sense that the subject is talking to the viewer and not to the interviewer.

And he actually has been called out about the whole atheism thing multiple times on his Facebook. So it is rather relevant, to him at least. I honestly don`t care what his religious beliefs are, either. Hell, I don`t care what anyone`s beliefs are. Just don`t impose them on me is what I say.

I just don`t see where/how he comes off as a pompous *** that some people are
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Male 700
What is the obsession with this guy?
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Female 2,602
@RB: There`s plenty of examples in the links provided (and the IAB commentary thereon). Here`s just one example. The video referenced is just NDT talking in monologue, about a subject that nobody has asked him about (despite his many references to being asked his opinion in a video in which only he appears, mysteriously no source of said enquiries is actually referred to).

I personally couldn`t give less of a poo whether NDT considers himself an atheist or not. And I couldn`t care less what he thinks about atheism. And neither I suspect do most people care about these things. Which is why he has to make videos wherein he provides his unsolicited opinion on a topic that nobody has actually asked him about.
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Male 9
"...wrong again fanboyish behavior."

I meant "wrong, fanboyish behavior." Not sure how I managed to mix up a comma and the word again. English is my second language, but still, that was weird.
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Male 9
@MacGuffin

I visit I-A-B about 3-5 times a day, actually. I`ve skimmed the links(1st page only) that you sent me, and they`re all random Twitter posts, answers to questions(Dear lord! He`s answering questions in an interview or Q/A session!), reposts of something he said(the Senate hearing being a rather popular source), or links about Mike Tyson... Who I assume has no relation.

Again, I just skimmed the links. Please show me a case where he went on a tangent totally unrelated to a question asked of him or is just babbling random crap no one cares about(outside of Twitter, of course).

At least we can agree to disagree with Zuriel, though! I`m not gonna lie, I like NDT. But, as I said earlier, to group him with "Einstein, Newton, Plato, Hubble, and Stephen Hawking" is just wrong again fanboyish behavior. Well, overly fanboyish.
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Female 2,602

[quote]small people are small[/quote]
Ever noticed how dumb people keep repeating the same thing over and over again, in the hope it`ll eventually sound intelligent one of the times they say it? Didn`t someone define that pattern of repeating the same behaviour and expecting a different outcome as madness once?*




(* That was a rhetorical question, btw, since I don`t actually engage in discourse with people that demonstrate such a limited vocabulary in their thinking.)
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Female 2,602

>>>So personal stories is what set you off? Outside of the Titanic story, NDT answering "how did you get into astrophysics(a standard question asked to anyone famous about their field of work), his personal attachment to NASA(though it`s still 99% about NASA), and about his schooling, I can`t honestly think of any other story about NDT himself.<<<


Oh, really? Then you can`t visit IAB much. Here, knock yourself out. I chuckle at the thought of NDT happening upon this thread next time he`s vanity Googling, and being unable to respond via sockpuppet to the valid criticism herein because of IAB`s unique way of listing threads by creation date rather than last posting date.
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Male 554
<--- is laughing at people that argue on the internet.

It`s like telling a tree it can`t ride a bicycle.

small people are small
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Male 9
@Gerry1of1

According to NdGT, Pluto isn`t even a real dog!

Now that was funny! *applauds*
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Male 9
@MacGuffin

"That`s correct, yes. ... but when used by minor celebrities that feel the constant need for validation in their insignificant lives, Twitter`s been nothing but a blight on society."

Totally agree with you here.

"Always talked about science"

So personal stories is what set you off? Outside of the Titanic story, NDT answering "how did you get into astrophysics(a standard question asked to anyone famous about their field of work), his personal attachment to NASA(though it`s still 99% about NASA), and about his schooling, I can`t honestly think of any other story about NDT himself. And trust me, I`ve watched many a lecture that he`s done. Are there any stories that I`m missing? I believe for the most part, he sticks to the astrophysics.

Krauss is just another professor/lecturer. Bill Nye hosted "Bill Nye the Science Guy", a show about random science. He now does random guest spots on the news and al
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Male 40,250

According to NdGT, Pluto isn`t even a real dog!


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Male 10
what Cheryl answered I cant believe that anybody can get paid $4147 in one month on the internet. have you seen this site>>>>>
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Female 2,602

[quote] Now, if you think the same about Carl Sagan, ...Do you feel the same about Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss, Bill Nye, Isaac Asimov, Richard Dawkins, Brian Cox, etc?[/quote]
Dawkins, Cox: Oh God yes. Attention whores to the max.

Krauss, Nye: No idea who they are. Which means they`re not on my radar. Which means they`re probably not as annoying as NDT.

Kaku: Not yet, but he`s getting there. At least he mainly talks about physics and does a job related to physics. But if I see him managing to squeeze his hobby of ice skating into one more explanation of centripetal force, he`s joining Dawkins and Cox.

Asmiov: No. Brilliant author, whom I don`t remember ever needing to attention whore to get recognition.

Sagan: Always talked about science, and never once made it about himself. Also a brilliant author on the same scale as Asmiov, Clarke, etc.
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Female 2,602

[quote]That means you pretty much hate everyone on Twitter, no?[/quote]
That`s correct, yes. I`ll make a slight allowance for people using it as a means to get news out of repressive regimes, but when used by minor celebrities that feel the constant need for validation in their insignificant lives, Twitter`s been nothing but a blight on society.
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Male 2,619
obsessed with Neil much?
It`s getting creepy now
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Male 771
Gerry just mad cuz he a dummy
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Male 40,250

Moral of the story...blowhards blow hard.
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Male 9
@Gerry1of1

So... You never retell interesting stories that have happened in your life?

And his Twitter clearly isn`t aimed at you. It is aimed at those who follow it. Those who follow his Twitter, probably have heard the story. If they`ve heard the story, then they`d probably find what he just tweeted as a funny, kind of in the inside joke kind of way. I personally don`t follow his Twitter, because I hate the whole premise of Twitter, or at least what it`s become.

"Nooooo he`s not doing a thing to blow his own over-inflated horn."

No... He`s just posting random crap that comes to his mind... AKA what most of Tweets are.
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Male 1,810
Sarcasm, delivered with the usual NDT excellence !!
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Female 1,803
I think Neil deGrasse Tyson is awesome and would love to have dinner with him some time. Unlike the whiners on this board, I`m not intimidated by intelligence, since I have a genius IQ and an engineering degree, so we would have a great conversation about a myriad of things.
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Male 40,250

skullgrin, "I hope you realize that we all heard about these things because OTHER PEOPLE who are not NDT posted it all over the internet. "

Really? Because it sure looks like him in this video telling the story.... again.
LINK

And it`s HIS twitter that is reminding us of Titanic by referring to TED`s sky. Nooooo he`s not doing a thing to blow his own over-inflated horn.
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Male 936
"@ NDT - Stop it you attention whore!
Yes, we`ve ALLLL HEARD your `Titanic` story.
Yes, we ALLLL know Cameraon changed the sky for you!

Now would you please shut up about it.
"

I hope you realize that we all heard about these things because OTHER PEOPLE who are not NDT posted it all over the internet. He;s just doing his thing and other people are sharing it...like this Twitter screen shot. You think NDT submitted this to IAB? No, someone else did so that we can ALLLL see this too.
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Male 9
@darkmagic14n

"the problem with NDT is he talks mainly to the general public so he can have the feeling of superiority, or at least that`s how he comes across to me."

While he does talk to the public(multiple TV appearances), he also speaks at universities, the Senate(at least once), at conferences(not open to the public), etc. We obviously don`t get to see a lot of those... Cause we`re the general public. I would agree with you if he was constantly on tv, but he isn`t. He is, however, constantly on the internet because other people have made a point to put him there. He genuinely, to me at least, conducts his business as Carl Sagan did/would have. Now, if you think the same about Carl Sagan, then the two of us have a much bigger disagreement about "feeling of superiority" or something. But then at least you`re consistent. Do you feel the same about Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss, Bill Nye, Isaac Asimov, Richard Dawkins, Brian Cox, etc?
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Male 1,625
[quote]That means you pretty much hate everyone on Twitter, no? [/quote]
I do, not EVERYONE, but a vast majority (the exceptions are like 5 people). Twitter is a great source for breaking news (especially for sports), since journalists don`t have to ramble or exaggerate things, they get straight to the point. For the general public, its a source of "going to the gym," "just back from the gym," "going to starbucks," etc.

[quote]I bet Stephen Hawking would do the same thing if he could. [/quote]
For a guy who can`t speak (on his own), he never shuts up. So much so that anyone could identify Hawkins` voice if they heard a small sound bite. All the scientists listed were constantly giving lectures or submitting articles to journals of science; the problem with NDT is he talks mainly to the general public so he can have the feeling of superiority, or at least that`s how he comes across to me.
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Male 9
@MacGuffin

Okay... You`re getting mad/annoyed at someone who posts on Twitter their personal thoughts... Um... That means you pretty much hate everyone on Twitter, no?

Really? Attacking his YouTube monologues? If he uploaded them, then you`d have a point, but he doesn`t... Other people find the time to upload them, so you should be mad at them, not him. No, he`s not at the forefront of his field, but he doesn`t claim to be, he just presents it in a form the general public can understand.

Before you go and say "I`ve just joined," I`ve been following I-A-B since around 2004 also, have an old account but can no longer use it.

And about him not being mute as other great scientists... Really? Just because he`s in the public eye you hate on him? I bet Stephen Hawking would do the same thing if he could.

@Zuriel

Sorry, no he`s not. They`ve made discoveries at the edge of human knowledge. What Tyson does is just make it accessible
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Male 40,250

[quote]"Neil deGrasse Tyson is in the same league with Einstein, Newton, Plato, Hubble, and Stephen Hawking... this man doesn`t need any validation from anyone. He is the Chuck Norris of science. He`s the Tchaikovsky of the night sky." [/quote]

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Female 1,515
@MacGuffin some scientists are useful in that they spread science to the masses- making people interested in science. It`s a pretty important part of science these days...
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Female 2,602

[quote]Neil deGrasse Tyson is in the same league with Einstein, Newton, Plato, Hubble, and Stephen Hawking... this man doesn`t need any validation from anyone. He is the Chuck Norris of science. He`s the Tchaikovsky of the night sky.[/quote]
If only he were as mute as them, that would be nice. Still, you`re right, he probably has like way more Friends on Facebook than any of those losers you mentioned, with their actual scientific discoveries and Nobel Prizes and everything. Did they ever bore James Cameron into changing the sky? - No they did not. Enough said I think. We know who`s the best scientist, Einstein, you loser: take your theory of General Relativity and sling your hook!
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Male 554
Neil deGrasse Tyson is in the same league with Einstein, Newton, Plato, Hubble, and Stephen Hawking... this man doesn`t need any validation from anyone. He is the Chuck Norris of science. He`s the Tchaikovsky of the night sky.
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Female 2,602

[quote]@MacGuffin
.. still small i see, well done.[/quote]
Oh, hi again Zuriel. I was just asking NDT what the latest actual scientific discovery he made was. He`s been a bit quiet on that front (but he is terribly busy attention whoring on Twitter and with his YouTube monologues about Titanic and everything, so I guess it`s understandable that he doesn`t have any time to do any actual meaningful science). Perhaps in the meantime you can tell us all about all those interesting links you`ve submitted since joining IAB in 2009? :)
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Male 554
@MacGuffin
.. still small i see, well done.
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Male 40,250

@ NDT - Stop it you attention whore!
Yes, we`ve ALLLL HEARD your `Titanic` story.
Yes, we ALLLL know Cameraon changed the sky for you!

Now would you please shut up about it.
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Female 2,602
Hey NDT, tell us all about your latest scientific discovery!
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Male 1,625
he didn`t bother paying attention to WHY they couldn`t share the driftwood, but god forbid the director doesn`t get the night sky right

plot is more important than scenery
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Male 3,908
Yeah, the "Titanic wrong sky" story is pretty funny.
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Male 638
Tyson was annoyed at Jams Cameron for not getting the Sky right in Titanic, and told Cameron this.

Here is him telling the story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6jSfRuptY
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Male 1,793
he just saying... @8bit... the sky over the original Titanic was wrong, Neil told the director and in the re-release they fixed it...
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Male 5,413
....I don`t get it.
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Male 21,015
Link: Neil deGrasse Tyson Is A Movie Critic Now [Pic] [Rate Link] - If it`s good enough for Tyson, it`s good enough for me.
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