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57 Responses to Is This The Most Honest 3.5 Minutes On TV?

  1. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Link: Is This The Most Honest 3.5 Minutes On TV? - Do you agree I-A-B? If not, why? If so, why?
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    dudemandave Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:42 am
    agreed
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    uscbadfish Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:46 am
    I don`t agree. It was only 3 minutes, 27 seconds. The last, or first, 3 seconds could have been complete and utter lies.
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    maggots7000 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:47 am
    thank god i just heard all that. right on. im now going to start watching that show
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Really? That guy is an actor you know.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:52 am
    ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

  7. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:56 am
    It is a straw man. The first two candidates to respond didn`t even answer with more than two words each, while the middle guy rattled off factual statistics. If this is a fictional debate, the first two candidates would have prepared statements about areas in which the United States needs to show improvement. For example, education, considering they are at a university. Any university audience would be expecting candidates to discuss how they propose to improve conditions, such as costs of education, the economic recession, or reducing the national debt. No candidate would fall for what is obviously a set-up question. Most politicians are trained in law and would object on the grounds that the question assumes facts not in evidence. But on Television, lawyers yell "objection" without ever explaining the grounds of their objection, which just makes viewers ignorant of the rules of evidence. They think lawyers have no reasoning skills and just shout at each other.
  8. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Anyway, the tl;dr version: the first two candidates to answer the question would have had legitimate intelligent justification for their views. Unless they are Texas governor Rick Perry, who is a moron.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    First clarification I would make: What do you mean when you say "greatest" - "greatest" by what measurement? We win the most Olympic track and field medals, but do not have the best 100 meter sprinters nor 5k and 10k runners. So, is the U.S. the "best" at track or is Jamaica, with the two best sprinters, or is Kenya with their plethora of marathoners? What do you mean when you say "best" or "greatest?"
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    Naitsirhc88 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    Is that The guy who Played Joey on Full House?
  11. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:07 pm
    And, how does he know she`s a "Sorority Girl?" That remark could be demonstratively false, making this statement at least partially dishonest.
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    EricForman Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    @Naitsirhc88 No that`s not Joey from fullhouse. He`s Jeff Daniels a.k.a Harry from the movie "Dumb & Dumber". Good actor he is.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    This is a show on HBO that one can only hope ever becomes reality. Basically just calling out the outright liars in politics, whether they be liberal or conservative. Jeff Daniels is a registered Republican in this show.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Wow. Great. What is that from?
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    I agree...
  16. Profile photo of jainjane
    jainjane Female 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    Patriotism is the conviction that your country is superior to all others because you were born in it. -George Bernard Shaw
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    tbored Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    No one ever gets the "QUIET" time to speak their mind like that.....Thus this is bull$!!&
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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    I will explain to some of you... this is an actor, but he is articulating what many of us feel. It`s not supposed to be exactly like reality, duh.

    Y`all need to do some thinking... and realize that some of your comments are somewhat dumb, and dumber.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    Good monologue.
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    2929AZDR Female 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Did you understand ANYHTING the he said or are you seriously just wondering if he`s "Joey" from full house?..God, that made you look like a total moron. That was the ONLY thing you got out of this well said speech? Who the hell cares if she is or isn`t a "sorority girl" that wasn`t the point he was making. The future looks very bleak with minds like this. God save us!
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    MrLill Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Well said Harry from Dumb and Dumber.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    I approve this
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    APedersen Female 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Very well said!
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    schecter5 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    *slow clap*
  25. Profile photo of Phranky
    Phranky Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    The text won`t fit in here, but please read what this great Canadian said about America.

    I will provide the intro:

    The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth.

    As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did.

    Google, "Gordon Sinclair - The Americans".

    It`s important and true.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    This is so good it makes my head hurt. I love me some Sorkin.

    Every time I hear someone say America is the greatest country on Earth I ask them why. I never get a real answer. I happen to think it is, but not because of stupid trite idioms like "freedom".
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    America...f*ck yeah!...oh.
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    Phranky Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    FYI - I just attempted to post the 1973 speech by Gordon Sinclair on America....true words.
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    SquirrelBait Female 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    @LandoGriffin : at no point is there a claim that this is an actual debate and you are presenting a Red Herring to the actual point at hand, which is that often it is stated and believe that the USA is the greatest country, but the facts rattled off there can be looked up and verified. We are not.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    USA USA USA!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Must be a TV script: libtards are NEVER going to allow a conservative to speak for more than 3 SECONDS without screaming a "talking point" in interruption...
  32. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    @Squirrelbait - the question was if the scene was "honest" and my answer was "no" because no one would ever unequivocally agree to the statement that the United States is the "greatest" country in the world without some sort of clarification of the assumptions about "greatest" - we have the highest percentage of incarcerated criminals, is that what she meant? No one with any sort of intelligence would claim that any one country is the "greatest" at everything. The scene is dishonest because it is oversimplified hack writing on the part of the characters who answered first with two-word answers (who would ever do that?) in order to further the agenda of Jeff Daniels` character, who is unrealistically portrayed as the only intelligent person in the room, and I find this lazy script writing dishonest.
  33. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    And my first post clearly states "If this is a fictional debate" I never said it definitely is or isn`t, but if it isn`t, then what the hell did I just watch?
  34. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    5Cats

    "libtards are NEVER going to allow a conservative to speak for more than 3 SECONDS without screaming a "talking point" in interruption..."

    Huh? Do you watch the show? You saw that as a Conservative rant?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    Most politicians are trained in law - lando


    hahahahaha thanks for that. I needed a good laugh today.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    More or less the truth.
  37. Profile photo of TheGuySmiley
    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    he`s right,
  38. Profile photo of Arazekiel
    Arazekiel Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    not much truly moves me, and I mean truly moves me. America listen to this, if you can or have access take it to heart, it is dead on.
  39. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Americans: This is TV. Learn to differentiate between it and reality, please.
  40. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    @tedgp

    Mitt Romney Law Degree = Harvard 1975
    Barack Obama Law Degree = Harvard 1991
    John Kerry Law Degree = Boston College 1976
    Al Gore = attended Vanderbilt Law School 1974 (did not graduate, running for congress in 1976)
    Bill Clinton Law Degree = Yale 1973
    Bob Dole Law Degree = Washburn 1952
    Michael Dukakis Law Degree = Harvard 1960
    Walter Mondale Law Degree = Minnesota 1956

    Most but not all U.S. politicians have law degrees.
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    Lebowski42 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    Nonsense. I don`t care about whether or not you think the US is the greatest nation. That is subjective because people have different values. However, watching a man in his fifties blame someone in their twenties for the circumstances in the country is absurd. Everything that baby boomers dislike about this nation falls squarely to them. They are in power, no other generation is any where close in terms of members of congress, senate, registered voters etc. Furthermore they are the generation in charge of most corporations and civic institutions. The current generation of college students is the smartest one we have produced, this is ALWAYS true. You can argue about how smart one generation is compared to the rest of the world all you want, but the fact is each generation is smarter than the last (until some generation really messes up and doesn`t educate the next)
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    bigwill6709 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    Harry Dunne got smart!
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    dvidend Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    as Billy explained I didnt know that a stay at home mom able to get paid $7613 in a few weeks on the computer. have you read this webpage NuttyRich.com
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 16, 2012 at 7:52 pm
    The problem is, liberals don`t lose ENOUGH elections. That`s why we`re no longer any better than all those other democratic socialist $#!+holes he named off. We have become one of them.
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    huggies130 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    This is from the first episode of The Newsroom on HBO. Its a good show worth watching. Even though this is from a tv show its still true
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    bassman56 Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2012 at 1:04 am
    Lebowski42, you missed the whole point of what was being said. I`d like to know how you can prove that this generation of college students is the smartest - just because you believe it, doesn`t make it true.
    What is your source? I live in a huge college town, and I don`t see the smartest kids ever. Not even close.
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    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    July 17, 2012 at 1:59 am
    bassman I think you are missing the point of what HE said (ironic right?). He is saying that every new generation is smarter because they are being taught by the educated ones from the previous, thus they start out with the knowledge of the past and build upon it. The difference may seem smaller with generations that are closer together but it`s something that happens gradually. Theoretically it would be very hard for us to go backwards.
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    matherdon Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2012 at 4:14 am
    Just saw the first episode because of this youtube clip. Very good indeed.
  49. Profile photo of 8BitHero
    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2012 at 6:01 am
    But what he said is true!
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    Laran Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2012 at 7:20 am
    @Lebowski: The next generation is very hard to teach when they wont listen.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    Why is it the young woman`s generation`s fault? That`s what kills me. Blame the young people when the elderly and middle aged adults have been putting us in the hole since the Reagan administration.
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    daroofa Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    The US spends as much as the next 12 countries combined on defense, not 26. Makes me wonder what other stats were made up.
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    mye Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    when......hahahahahhahahaha.....someone is a flamming idiot....
  54. Profile photo of Kalon
    Kalon Male 13-17
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    July 17, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    This video. This video x1000.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    @MacGuffin - Thanks for clearing that up!!!
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    overdoneone Male 50-59
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    July 28, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    This man is NOT blaming the students generation! He is simply telling it like it is. Even if he is off a little on his stats, the context of his answer is right on. Check it out for yourselves instead of playing pattots
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    overdoneone Male 50-59
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    July 28, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    This man is NOT blaming the students generation! He is simply telling it like it is. Even if he is off a little on his stats, the context of his answer is right on. Check it out for yourselves instead of playing parrots

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