How To Suck At Your Own Religion

Submitted by: NNoamfer 5 years ago in Misc

The Oatmeal gives us a true and educational comic, today about religion.
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Male 15,330
The oatmeal rocks. But he should have drawn Mohammed. Here:

:-)
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Male 10,085
Cartright

"You dismissing real faith"

Faith: belief that is not based on proof

WHY do you find that to be an admirable quality?

If you feel God has spoken to you or something like that, OK, I get it. But if you blindly believe something you have absolutely no proof of simply because for thousands of years other people before you blindly believed it with no proof, how is that a good thing?
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Male 10,085
Zach82

"It`s kind of a parent`s job to teach his or her children the truth, so far as one understands it."

Ignorance begets ignorance. Just because you don`t know something doesn`t mean you should saddle your children with the same naiveté.

I have kids. They aren`t old enough to ask yet, but when my kids ask me questions like "How did the universe start?" or "What happens if we die?" I will tell them all kinds of different things. I`ll tell them the best scientific understanding of the day, what various different religions think, what I personally think, as well as what some fringe groups think. Then I`d ask them if they have any ideas and then we`ll talk about it.

In my mind that is the only correct answer to the question.

But Christians just point at the bible and inform them that is the answer.
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Male 58
I agree with most that many religious people are crazy. However the bible does not simply say "Don`t judge" --- It says "Judge not lest you be judged" then goes on to say that you will be judged with the same measure you judge others. We all judge, it is the nature of preference. You dismissing real faith because stupid christians misrepresent the bible, is as bad as stupid christians condemning you for not believing their way.
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Male 5,811
[quote]A child has to examine and question EVERYTHING a parent has taught him as he grows up, and religion is like every other belief in that regard. [/quote]
I was raised Anglican, quite religion as a teenager. There was really no questioning anything when you`re a kid, it was really to me just a place we went to compare clothes. a 4-year old cannot think critically about complex philosophical issues, they just model from their parents` response. The key is to allow them to make decisions and choices as they get a little older
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Female 8,113
"It`s kind of a parent`s job to teach his or her children the truth"- well- some things you can say with truth. jump off a bridge and you may die or be horribly injured. Other `truths` are more subjective- so perhaps it helps to teach a child critical thinking- logic- all that good stuff. It will help all throught their life in all manner of things....
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Male 762
No, we can argue until we are blue in the face about the implications or raising children, but we wont get anywhere as we have very different understandings of the nature of reality.

You find faith the be an inspirational tool to finding and understanding a higher power. I find faith to be an empty word that people shoehorn in to situations where there is a void of logic.

I just realized we are speaking different languages and to continue would be futile.
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Male 319
The mark of reason: refusing to speak with people that disagree with you.
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Male 762
Faith huh? Welp, it was nice talking to you.
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Male 319
That simply isn`t true. Faith is all the more valuable when one embraces it freely. A child has to examine and question EVERYTHING a parent has taught him as he grows up, and religion is like every other belief in that regard. If you are objecting to shaming children into faith, I agree with you. But that is not the only mode of religious upbringing.
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Male 762
@Zach82

Well I can attest to that, since I was raised in a very overbearing church and my parents taught me to question authority. But those two concepts have different goals in mind. I was both heavily indoctrinated and taught critical thinking and the indoctrination always played to emotion rather than logic.

But my point is that a child isn`t some thing for you to stamp all your believed "truths" onto. A responsible parent teaches a child to question, not force feed with indoctrination.

While it is possible for both things to exist in parenting, their ideas are at the core mutually exclusive.
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Male 319
You are missing the point, unmercyfuldu. Raising a child in a religion and raising them to think critically are not mutually exclusive.
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Male 762
"It`s kind of a parent`s job to teach his or her children the truth"

No, it is a parent`s job to give a child the tools to identify ideas worthy of belief. It is another thing to instill in a child a belief that anything outside of that belief is bad and invokes anxiety and shame.
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Male 319
It`s kind of a parent`s job to teach his or her children the truth, so far as one understands it. One can raise a child in a religion AND teach them to think for themselves.
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Male 3,431
Awww, he pussed out and didn`t draw a picture of Mohammed, and then he complimented Judaism.

Subtly ironic in a way most people won`t recognize I suppose.

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Male 1,625
[quote]asking a child to ponder their own mortality[/quote]

oatmeal confirmed for not having children. I have no problem, as an agnostic, to guide my child`s upbringing by the bible, quran, and even some buddhist scriptures. I don`t force feed her it and tell her if she does things bad, God will hate her; but that doesn`t mean religious texts don`t offer some great stories with morals, just as good as fables.
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Male 1,341
If only.
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Male 762
"they only believe that something like a couple hundred thousand people will be allowed into heaven"

Well yes and no. It is more of a pyramid scheme than you realize, except they really have nothing to sell. Mormons believe there are several layers to heaven and everyone goes to one layer or another. That is the point behind all their posthumous baptisms.
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Female 9,584
I`m a Christian and I thought it was funny. Moving along now.
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Male 5,811
Well, this was mostly aimed at Christians, but a lot of it isn`t wrong though. Canadians demonstrated the existence of stem cells btw, in a proud tradition of Canadian scientist heathens.

The Mormon panel got me thinking about Jehovah`s Witnesses though, because they only believe that something like a couple hundred thousand people will be allowed into heaven, yet they try to convert as many people as possible in order to be one of those few people. It`s like a religion pyramid scheme!
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Male 1,216
Link: How To Suck At Your Own Religion [Rate Link] - The Oatmeal gives us a true and educational comic, today about religion.
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