Chick-fil-A Blocked From Opening 2nd Chicago Store

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago in

Are these the final days of Chick-fil-A?
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Male 6,639
Free speech goes both ways. I don`t agree with the Chick-fil-a CEO`s opinion but they aren`t hiring and firing people based on their sex/race i don`t see a problem.
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Male 546
I think that everyone that does not toe the "PC" line should be silenced. It`s the American way!
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Male 3,631
That`s really funny - because this CEO`s beliefs are just that, beliefs - which fall under the protected categories cited by the Mayor`s anti-discrimination policy. Woo-hoo. What about the monetary system and financial crisis in this country? Oh, you`re going out to protest a chicken restaurant? Classy.
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Male 14,827
I`d do better than shake a fist. I`d raise a middle finger. Except there`s no orientation to point it at, as he doesn`t exist.
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Male 10,339
I mean Ma`am.
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Male 10,339
"Just like because you`re Christian, you slaughter Muslims."

It doesn`t say that in MY Bible sir.
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Male 8,132
5Cats

" The MAYOR is not a "community leader" he`s a POLITICAL Leader! DUH! When he vows to use government powers to opress free speech it`s ILLEGAL! "

Do you even know the story? Must I educate you about the facts before we debate?

In Chicago it is not the mayor that is blocking Chick-Fil-A it is an alderman.

"Alderman Joe Moreno, who represents Chicago`s Logan Square neighborhood, plans to use his aldermanic privilege, a Chicago tradition in which City Council members defer to aldermen on local matters, to block the restaurant`s permit."

In boston the mayor (as far as I`ve read) isn`t blocking Chick-Fil-A, he simply said he didn`t want them there and hoped they`d reconsider coming.
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Male 37,762
**sigh**
Ground Zero Mosque: I said repeatedly it was their RIGHT to build the Mosque there. However, I didn`t believe their REASONS for it, thought it was in poor taste and fully supported people`s opposition to it.
100% Consistant.

@HolyGod: The MAYOR is not a "community leader" he`s a POLITICAL Leader! DUH! When he vows to use government powers to opress free speech it`s ILLEGAL!

@gothmo: What he actually said, and what his attackers SAY he said are two different things...

@aj: lolz! Perfect!
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Male 8,132
5cats

You said a community leader blocking a company from coming because of legal free speech issues is illegal. I`m making the case that it isn`t. I gave you a hyperbolic version n of the same situation. It is incredibly offensive, which was the point, but completely legal in regards to free speech. It wasn`t trolling in any way.

But if it is easier for you to ignore it, OK. I see you passed over my other statement as well.
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Male 762
"So should all businesses in Chicago be required to sign a statement saying they support gay marriage? No businesses allowed that we disagree with? Sounds like fascism to me."

Cute... In case everyone forgot, businesses aren`t humans capable of emotions and opinions. Ther opinions aren`t something we need to know. Just shut up and sell products. I also find it weird that Starbucks has to claim they support gay marriage. Why do the owners get to speak for the opinions of everyone that composes their companies? It seems like an effort to blur the line between human and corporation so corporations will some day get to vote on such social issues, as if their lobbyists don`t have enough power already.
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Female 1,743
@AJ, They`re Muslim, so obviously they kill gays.
Good logic.
Just like because you`re Christian, you slaughter Muslims.
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Male 992
An-egg Sorry they have already chimed in.
Google ACLU Chick Fil A to get the references.
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Male 4,431
However, I do agree that a mayor or public official, while allowed to hold views and beliefs against this man`s/company`s views and beliefs, shouldn`t be able to limit their business`s expansion due to that belief or action (so long as the man/company acts lawfully, which they clearly are).
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Male 4,431
I drating love how conservatives are trying to recolor this discussion. It`s NOT that he THINKS or BELIEVES homosexuality is wrong. He can do that all he wants. It`s that he is taking ACTION to ACTIVELY discriminate against a portion of our population by paying millions of dollars to support bigoted and discriminatory legislation. ACTIONS are no longer just thoughts or ideas or tenants. You take action, you try to actively affect MY life (he`s affecting the lives of innocent people with his ACTIONS) and that`s a whole different thing that "holding views". Nice try at misdirection, though.
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Male 2,163
"Also, the administrators of OPEC, which is based in Saudi Arabia, are extra Muslim, which means, yes, they kill homosexuals, as per their religion."
And Jews and Americans!
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Male 10,339
Also, the administrators of OPEC, which is based in Saudi Arabia, are extra Muslim, which means, yes, they kill homosexuals, as per their religion.
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Male 10,339
"while others don`t (e.g. Venezuela, which is a member of OPEC)."

Tangent. Venezuela has HORRIBLE human rights. Killing political opponents. Citizens can`t afford food because of falsely inflated prices. Etc.

Hugo Chavez is a major douchebag.
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Male 621
Chick-fil-A is easy to understand and easy to boycott.

Gasoline is far more complicated and intrinsic to too many things. First of all, around 90% of the gasoline used in the US was refined in the US. And around half of the crude oil the US uses comes from the US and Canada. Yes, around 40% comes from OPEC, but there`s no way to separate the imported and domestic gasoline.

Furthermore, OPEC doesn`t put anyone to death. OPEC is an organization that spans 12 countries, some of which have some rather disgusting human rights policies, while others don`t (e.g. Venezuela, which is a member of OPEC).

So, there really is little comparison between the one straightforward example and the other much more complicated issue.
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Male 15,832
auburnjunky wins the thread!
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Male 1,404
Chick-fil-A gets 10,000 to 25,000 applications for roughly 60 to 70 new stores that open each year. It is a privately held company with no debt. Averages &2.7 million over McDonald`s $2.4 million per store annual capital. In 2012 they will award $1.65 million in collage scholarships to employees. There employees are paid 20-35% higher average wadges then any area fast food chain. I contend Chick-fil-A may be along a lot longer than the City of Chicago which continues to loose major business second only to Detroit. If you agree or disagree with Cathy`s statement realize that he was trolled by a reporter and used as a distraction by Mayor Rahm Emanuel who`s city is crumbling under his feet as he extorts the life out of it.
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Male 183
So should all businesses in Chicago be required to sign a statement saying they support gay marriage? No businesses allowed that we disagree with? Sounds like fascism to me. I don`t agree with what Truett Cathy(founder of Chick-Fil-A) believes, but I support his right to believe it.
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Male 10,339

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Male 104
I don`t understand peoples love for Chick-fil-A. I`ve been there once and it tasted just like something I woudl have gotten at KFC for $4 less.
The only good thing there is their weird ketchup holders, that either let you dip or pour.
Kinda sad when the only good thing about your restaurant is the free ketchup...
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Female 1,324
Good for them. It`s fine not to believe in it but to be disrespectful about it is a whole different beast. As the CEO of a company he should know better anyway... These things always come back to bite them in the butt. There`s not even one in this state, which is fine with me.
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Male 884
I guess you have some reference for this. And I`m quite sure that his religion has tenets about homosexuality. Right or wrong he has a right to those beliefs. He also has a right (under the first amendment) to proclaim them. You have a right to boycott him, but the state doesn`t have a right to
a) try to silence him
b)try to intimidate others who might like to speak out
c)deny him a livelihood
As I said earlier:
What would you be saying if the Mayor of Atlanta denied a gay club the right to establish itself in Atlanta because its values were "not respectful of our neighbors , our residents, and our families". I`d be outraged!
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Male 884
I guess you have some reference for this.
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Male 166
I am going to bet my bottom dollar that the CEO has a enormous house. I am not a religious person, but doesn`t his religion say something about the best people are the poor people? Seriously I hate all these rich people with strong religious views who don`t follow their own damn religion.
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Male 166
I am going to bet my bottom dollar that the CEO has a enormous house. I am not a religious person, but doesn`t his religion say something about the best people are the poor people? Seriously I hate all these rich people with strong religious views who don`t follow their own damn religion.
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Male 884
scheckydamon
I`ll bet top dollar they won`t say it about this
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Male 884
Their
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Male 2,384
they`re chicken sandwiches aren`t even that good
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Male 884
I nearly posted this earlier, then deleted it. What would you be saying if the Mayor of Atlanta denied a gay club the right to establish itself in Atlanta because its values were "not respectful of our neighbors , our residents, and our families". I`d be outraged!
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Male 992
Look out, Even the ACLU in Chi Town says blocking licenses based on a companies stated beliefs would be against the law.
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Male 736
lol, the Biblical version of marriage? So, any virgin I rape counts as my wife, right? Is that what they mean?
Bunch of cavemen.
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Male 1,399
zazuch: "How is he violating the law? They are just not allowing them to get a permit for that location."

That is no different than denying them a permit because they`re gay, or black, or women.

Anti-discrimination cuts both ways, and I`d bet it`s written in the Illinois State Constitution you can`t discriminate based upon their religious views.

Hope CFA sues.
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Female 2,674
HolyGod, pretty sure he was one of the people against the "ground zero mosque". Curious... :P
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Male 37,762
@HolyGod: You`re being stupid? Or trolling? It`s rather boring regardless of your "reasons".
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Male 5,874
Oi! settle-down! its a forum, not a sacrificial altar!
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Male 8,132
5Cats

I`m going to take a stab in the dark and guess you voiced an opinion that "The Ground Zero Mosque" (which was neither near ground zero or a mosque) shouldn`t be allowed. Am I wrong?
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Male 21
@5cats
They have the right to deny building permits because that is not a form of federal punishment. The first amendment does not grant the right to build a business, it grants you the right to say and believe what you want. Mayors have the power to deny building permits for whatever reasons they want, that`s the whole point of a building permit. If the mayor believes that their city will not benefit from that business and if they believe spreading and supporting hate will not benefit, they are free to deny said business.
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Male 8,132
5cats

So what you are saying is if someone would like to open up the "ALL N.IGGERS SHOULD BE HUNG, Child pornography and rape fantasy book store" next to an elementary school in Harlem, that the community leaders have no right to block it from happening?
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Male 3,894
Look. Everyone is free to denounce anyone they like. Conservatives, quit b*tching about people hating Chick-Fil-A. If there was a chain run by a known socialist, or communist, or neo nazi or whatever you guys would be all over him, and it would be your right as customers and Americans to disagree with their beliefs and take your business elsewhere.

That`s how capitalism works. Your interests are best served by not taking a stand on controversial issues, because it will turn about half of the population against you. As a businessman, you should smile, nod, and sell your product to anyone willing to pay without judging them. If you don`t, some of your buyers are going to go elsewhere because they don`t like you. And it`s your own damn fault.
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Male 762
@5Cats

I can only imagine what is meant when you use the word " fascist"
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Male 37,762
@zazuch: Here`s How! There have been many court decisions which expressly FORBID the Gov`t acting against ANYONE based on their 1st amendment rights. 3 examples are linked and discussed here.

Thus: If you say "I hate all Democrats" and the Democrat Mayor refuses to issue you a building permit based on that? It`s ILLEGAL.

@unmercyfuldu: You be trolling, seriously, just admit it! It`s either that or you`re a fascist. Take your pick!
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Male 762
@kasuko

You are confusing your imaginary right to not be offended with other peoples` real inalienable rights.
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Male 762
@kasuko

Read what I wrote.

No one is forcing you to agree with anything. I said you can hate and disagree with whoever you want. Just don`t expect people to like you. And don`t think that other people having rights is somehow forcing you to accept them. Again, feel free to be a bigot.
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Male 286
@5Cats

How is he violating the law? They are just not allowing them to get a permit for that location.


@johnkelley
live peacefully among everyone, whether they believe the same things as you, or not.

That is what the same sex groups are trying to do but laws being made or being stopped by people with conservative homophobic feelings are stopping them from living peacefully among everyone. Not all are trying to force their ideas onto you just trying to get the same rights you have that is all the want.
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Male 4,431

I`m a tree-hugging uber Democrat and ate there at least once a week. Even though I KNEW they were anti-gay marriage. Even though I knew they were Christians, supportive of Christian values and super conservative. It was only when I found out that they were actually paying to actively support discrimination that I stopped going.
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Male 4,431
See, McGovern, that whole "believes in free speech, unless it offends her" thing is BS. Here`s why: free speech doesn`t hurt anyone. Take the KKK for example. I hate their message. Hate their politics. Hate their stance. However, I`ll rabidly support their rights to say anything they want and demonstrate (legally) any way they want. Same for Westboro Baptist Church. Same for Chick-Fil-A. They want to have a viewpoint, speak about the evils of gay people, etc., I`m fine with that.

The problem? When they go past speech and start taking action to ACTIVELY discriminate. Chick-Fil-A doesn`t just have a view, they`re paying MILLIONS of dollars in support of discriminatory and bigoted legislation. THAT`S the difference. Have views all you want. Speak all you want. But start supporting laws that *affect* others, that limit their rights, that DISCRIMINATE? That`s crossing the line, IMHO.
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Male 16
@unmercyfuldu

Appreciate your updating us on your characteristics -
---troll---,
--racist---,
---angry little bigot---
Any other background information about yourself???
Read what I wrote - Do not force on others when you will not accept their views either!! I only stated the obvious.
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Male 59
End of Chic Fil A? You haven`t seen the lines in those places.

They don`t support gay marriage and they don`t open on Sundays because they are an openly Christian place of business. Why is it ok to hate Christians who use their first amendment to express their beliefs, but in the same breath turn around and talk about how Christians are oppressing non believers and somehow taking the rights of atheists away? It is sad to me that all of these people hate on Christians and talk crap to me about being one, they preach to me all the time about how it is fake and they don`t believe in religion, then gripe that we press our views onto them, hypocrisy, anyone? Who gives a crap if a fast food chain has certain beliefs, if you like their food, eat there, if not....THEN DON`T! Sit back, take your own advice, live peacefully among everyone, whether they believe the same things as you, or not. Atheists are the number one group screaming "Coexist", yet constantly I read, see and
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Male 718
Great. now im an non-nice individual if i want a drating chicken Sandwich!!
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Male 1,511
Not saying that I agree with Chick-Fil-A, but what right does a city have to block a business from opening just because of the owners political/moral views. This pisses me off.
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Female 592
I have never eaten there, not gay and will not feel bad for never wanting to go at all.
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Male 771
Chick-Fil-A is way too damn expensive.
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Male 58
They could say they hate me personally and I would still go there! It`s that good.
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Male 47
This so stupid. They already have one in the city and I don`t think it`s a majority that agrees with "boycotting" Chic-fil-a because everything I go there I can`t find a damn parking spot between the hours of 11:00am and 2:00pm ... frustrating. I wish more people would stop going there so I can get my damn chicken sammich.
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Male 5,811
Conservatism:

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Male 37,762
So the Mayor of Chicago wants to violate the law? Good! Let him goto jail like the criminal that he is!

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Male 15,510
If you dont want to ruin your business just dont be openly anti gay
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Male 14,332
Liberalism.....
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Male 5,811

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Male 884
@McGovern1981
I don`t know but it probably tastes like chicken.
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Male 62
just as they are successful without operating on sundays, they will be successful without supporting gays.
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Male 762
@kasuko

Also (I suspect you are a troll, but I`ll bite cause there are people this stupid) No one is forcing you to accept anything, just recognize someone`s rights. Just like you don`t have to like black people, but you and your ilk won`t get off after dragging them behind your truck. You are free to be a angry little bigot all you want, you just aren`t allowed to let your beliefs restrict the rights of others.
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Male 5,811
Well, it is kind of ridiculous that they can`t open a business, especially if they already have one in the city, too.
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Female 1,743
can`t tell if kasuko is trolling...

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Male 762
@Kasuko

Awww, boo hoo. Your poor rights of controlling other people. Sucks your marriage would be so affected by gay marriage, what with all the gay sax you will have to perform.


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Male 143
Way to go Chicago! The forefront of hypocrisy. If you are that devoted to freedom, then isn`t disallowing C-F-A to operate where it wants the exact opposite of what you believe? I thought we were a free country, where we can believe what we want. Apparently not. You don`t have to like Chic-fil-a, or eat their food, but you can`t say where they can or can`t operate based on what a CEO believes. Then you are no better than the uber-Christians that so many of you apparently dislike. Does no one else see the serious infringement of freedom and liberty here??? How batpoo crazy would everyone get if a city said that a pro-gay store couldn`t open shop because they don`t like their values?
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Male 3,462
I don`t support what Chick-fil-A says, but I`ll defend for their right to say it.

Also, I find it absurd that Chicago leaders would refuse to let a tax generating business open within their city limits. It`s almost as if they don`t want tax money... Or revenue... Or to provide people with, albeit crappy but nonetheless, jobs. Seems they care more about being politicians than helping the people they were elected to lead.


Unmercyfuldu, not all that oppose gay marriage are bible thumpers.
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Male 16
So, if I understand the situation correctly, it is acceptable to force the Liberal Gay union upon me and my family, but it is not acceptable for me to say "Hey, wait a minute, you are FORCING me to to accept you, while at the same time you REFUSE to accept my views!!!" Therefore, it is safe to summarize that it is perfectly alright to trample on my rights and belief`s as long as I don`t change my point to view to match yours. Isn`t that what the jihadi terrorists are saying too??? Change your religion and we will stop the killing!!! As long as we are forcing our views on others, let us all become Muslim converts then!!!
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Male 14,332
Freedom whatz is itz?!?!
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Male 762
@Andrew155

I made two points. The video states that the company and other advocates are calling people to come support Chick-fil-a`s stance. I find it absolutely absurd that people would care so much about something that really won`t have any affect politically but sure will have a huge affect on their very own health. People who eat crap food to supposedly stand up for "traditional marriage" deserve the poor health that results. Very cute though you trying to dig into my comment assuming I would be all sympathetic towards African American bigots more than white bigots.

My second point is that people use the bible to justify these things and there is an inherent contradiction presented by those who chose to disobey God`s dietary commandments in order to support one of his other laws.
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Male 514
Baby, you can`t taste hate.
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Male 118
Next Santorum tweet: "enjoying fried chicken and watermelon with my kids at Sambo`s"
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Male 2,578
I am pro-Gay marriage, but I feel like I`m taking crazy pills that this is so popular.

And unmercyfuldu, you are incorrect. Chick Fil-A eaters are almost certainly disproportionately Democrat voters. A high majority of heavily democratic black voters disapprove of gay marriage. They also make up a huge portion of the South (more than the 12% national average). And if you`ve ever been to a Chick Fil-A, that`s mostly who you see.

So are you sure you want to wish death upon all those precious Democrat voters? A little weird if you ask me. Very undemocratic, not open-minded, non-liberal, almost authoritarian (either my way or you die) sort of mentality you have going.
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Male 1,440
Chick-Fil-A made the mistake of outing its beliefs...should`ve kept it a secret.
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Male 762
Yes, a call to idiots to eat themselves to death. I hope they don`t go out of business but contribute significantly to hyper tensions, heart attacks and cardiac arrest in all their supporting red states. What god says about other people`s relationships is a lot more important than those commandments about diet.
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Male 2,578
Why is this such a big deal? One obscure restaurant and it`s political view on one issue. A few hundred people have died in the Middle East this week and Syria might just use chemical weapons. Also reports that those weapons may have come from Saddam. Nothing on that. Certainly I would find that more interesting than what Chick Fil-A does.


I wonder if Denny`s wants offshore drilling. Or if Burger King approves of Drone attacks.
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Male 390
Although I am against Chik-Fil-A`s policies and do not patronize their outlets, no one has the right to tell them they can`t open a store in a given area just because of their policies.
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Male 20,148
Link: Chick-fil-A Blocked From Opening 2nd Chicago Store [Rate Link] - Are these the final days of Chick-fil-A?
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