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136 Responses to 14 Dead, 50 Injured In Colorado Mall Shooting

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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 4:45 am
    Link: 14 Dead, 50 Injured In Colorado Mall Shooting - A man threw a smoke bomb into a Dark Knight Rises screening and fired a rifle into an Aurora crowd. Details in credits.
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    CCMA_19 Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 4:54 am
    I guess he hates Batman
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    incubus_inc Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:06 am
    This is terrible. :( Crazy folks need to keep it on the dl.
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    imanironchef Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:29 am
    This is so sad a baby died too.... This is horrible.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:32 am
    Video of people walking out of the theater bloody.

    You Tube

    The shooter has been identified as James Holmes, 24, of North Aurora, he was apprehended at the scene clad in a bullet-proof vest and riot helmet.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:34 am
    I didn`t think it would be that bad of movie!! They`re saying it was tear gas now how do you even get ahold of that??
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    Vimto Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:43 am
    The comments on the video are lengthy and kinda scary.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:48 am
    $10 says he`s republican and he`s afraid Obama`s gonna take the guns away...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:57 am
    Here come the gun nazis.
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    imanironchef Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:05 am
    I wonder how this is going to affect te weekend opening of the film?
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:13 am
    Macgovern.. surely you mean anti gun nazis

    (Owning a gun couldnt really help here could it?)

    Anyway .. Regardless.. Something about this I find particularly unpleasant.. Maybe because everyone was hunkering down for a good time.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:16 am
    @MattPrince

    Yes that`s what I ment. If someone else was carrying they may have taken him down no way of knowing.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:25 am
    10 to 1 it`s a christian fundamentalist. Hates gay people...thinks Harry Potter is satanic...feels as if he saved all their souls by killing them before they got to see the movie.
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    TheBairn Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:27 am
    You`re an arsehole McGovern.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:37 am
    The moral of the story is that downloading for free never got anyone killed or harmed..
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    FredSpudman Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:40 am
    @McGovern Just to be clear, you`re advocating everyone who can legally own a gun to own and take it anywhere they can in case it kicks off?
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:50 am
    Anyone who can,SHOULD own a gun and carry.It would be VERY effective. Just look at the Palms internet cafe robbery video. Duh. If you own a gun,keep it with you,Because it IS jumping off.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 6:57 am

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 7:17 am
    @TheBairn

    You`re a sheep have a thought at some point or does the queen do that for you?

    @FredSpudman
    Criminals don`t obey laws yes we have the right to defend ourselfs. If this man made a bomb from diesel and chemicals I won`t share would you ban that too? At what point will you look at the person and not the inanimate object for the answers?
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 7:27 am
    More worryingly your advocating firing at a guy in a crowded place full of tear gas and people. Id rather put my faith in kung fu bro.. at least collateral will be lower.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 7:27 am
    One point that is often overlooked, McGovern1981, is the access to guns limits the number of guns a person can have. In Canada, we can`t carry guns. There really aren`t any around. If a criminal is able to get a gun, which sometimes happens, he will only have that one gun and is limited to the amount of harm he can cause. In the U.S., guns are so readily available that, instead of one single gun with a few rounds, a person can bring a whole freaking arsenal including military weapons. The difference is we go from a few folks getting shot to huge numbers of folks getting shot.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Yeah, McGovern, we can have everyone just hammering away at each other in a crowded theater. Sounds like a good solution.
    Getting angry and imagining putting a bullet in this bastard is easy; having every angry person pack a gun is not the answer.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 7:46 am
    @carmium

    Yes cause people who own guns don`t know how to use them properly.......

    @patchouly

    A criminal can get everything you just mentioned on the black market. People who no nothing about firearms shouldn`t be dictating laws for them. We seemed to overlook the shooting in Toronto about a week ago here for some reason.....
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    Thdot Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:05 am
    http://denverteaparty.ning.com/profile/JimHolmes
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    Brometheus Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:08 am
    I`m wondering if Rush Limbaugh`s comments on the Bane/Bain democratic conspiracy had anything to do with this.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:11 am
    Zeegrr60-"you`re advocating everyone who can legally own a gun to own and take it anywhere they can"

    I have no problem with this. It`s not `legal` guns that worry me.

    MattPrince-"rather put my faith in kung fu bro."

    That`s fine, and your choice. But kung fu doesn`t help too much against a .45, no matter what you see in the movies.

    This guy had: Rifle, handgun, body armor, gas mask, smoke bombs and explosives.

    Do you REALLY think any amount of gun laws would have stopped him? (If so, why not just outlaw murder? That`ll solve it.)
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    FredSpudman Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:18 am
    @McGovern "If this man made a bomb from diesel and chemicals I won`t share would you ban that too? At what point will you look at the person and not the inanimate object for the answers?"Ah, so we should all take bombs everywhere in case someone has one? Sorry, I`m being a trifle facetious, but in all seriousness, I`m looking at the person. The person brought a gun to the cinema. That`s not right.
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    FredSpudman Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:20 am
    @MeGrendel
    I agree in the sense that the United States has gone too far along the path of gun ownership and such for legislation to make a difference.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Gerry: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

    I was thinking the same thing. Some really sick twisted people walking among us.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:46 am
    This is about sick mofos, not guns. Why are there people out there like this? F-ing crazy douchebag.
  31. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 8:58 am
    FredSpudman-"the United States has gone too far along the path of gun ownership"

    What you call `too far along` is what we consider `a constitutionally recognized human right`. Our founding fathers found it so important that it is the SECOND of our Bill of Rights, right behind that whole `Free Speech` thing.

    Guns are not a new thing. They helped found this country.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:03 am
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:06 am

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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Why do people care about this, but not about the 250 people killed in Chicago this year so far? (I believe more than Afghanistan).

    And in terms of guns, the cause of the violence is not the mere existence of guns, it`s the culture (Switzerland comes to mind). People always seem to think it`s because of the "system" that a country fails or succeeds. Why do they always fail to take into account culture? There`s a reason why there is a giant gap between the success of Southern Europe and Northern Europe.
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    mamba Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:20 am
    @McGovern1981

    It`s about control..... controlling the guns.
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    Brometheus Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:22 am
    @thdot - wrong guy
  37. Profile photo of An-egg
    An-egg Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:25 am
    What gun control gets you
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:26 am
    Any one who seriously thinks gun control or completely revoking the right to bear arms would solve this is a f*cking idiot! All that does is keep firearms out of the hands of people who obtain them LEGALLY!

    I don`t know about other states, but I live in NY and have a concealed carry permit which allows me to LEGALLY purchase and carry a licensed handgun and ammunition. I can legally carry it anywhere except in NYC (which takes a special permit) or inside gov`t facilities. (City Hall, DMV, etc) It takes a few months and a mountain of paperwork to get a concealed carry permit, however, if I wanted to get a handgun ILLEGALLY, I could make a few phone calls and I`d probably have one at the end of the day. All "gun control" does is keep them from people who use them legally and would actually make it easier for people who want to use guns for criminal purposes.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:27 am
    If a criminal is able to get a gun, which sometimes happens, he will only have that one gun and is limited to the amount of harm he can cause.
    @patchouli: Are you completely BONKERS? Have you NOT read the stories of cops hauling dozens of illegal firearms from the homes of gangsters, criminals, bikers and other assorted nuts? DOZENS!
    Any criminal with a few bucks can buy ANY number of guns In Canada ANY day of the week.
    Your statement is just too silly for words.
    The École Polytechnique Massacre shooter "only had one gun" and look what happened! It was LEGALLY owned to boot.

    @THDot: It`s NOT that guy, your baseless slander is sickeing, there are 24+ guys in that area with the same name as the shooter.
    Grow up already.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Ah, so we should all take bombs everywhere in case someone has one?
    No @FredSpudMan: He means we should BAN DIESEL FUEL because it "could be" used to make bombs, get it?
    While we`re at it, we can ban gasoline and propane too...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:36 am

    I`m with the anti-gun crowd on this one.
    We should totally blame this on a firearm.
    It`s not like there was a man behind it calling the shots. {no pun intended..... okay, yes it was}





    Did my sarcasm come accrossed there? `Cause i was going for sarcastic
    but I might have been too subtle?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Well that sucks. I saw batman there and he didn`t lift a finger.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:38 am
    "It`s about control..... controlling the guns. "

    Yeah banning guns would work, because just like when we banned drugs, people stopped dieing from drugs. There has not been a single case of death from a banned drug in over 50 years! Get real, dumbass.
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:43 am
    the point is the guy who did this grew up as a kid in a society that says its ok to carry a gun, and in a country full of thick mean persons, doesn`t take a genius to work out whats going to happen at some point
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Not sure if gun control could stop this. Look at what happened here a year ago, Norway has the world strictest gun- laws. The guy joined a Shooting- club and took all the courses required to obtain a license for a gun.

    Gun laws prevent a lot of crimes committed in affect though, because in the "heat of the moment" (argument, desperation, frustration etc.) it`s hard to reach for a weapon where there are none.

    But the thorough, insane, massacre types who plan for a year, often alone - no law can stop them.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:52 am
    But the thorough, insane, massacre types who plan for a year, often alone - no law can stop them.

    @Student_Law: I agree 100%!
    If someone has gone completely insane, laws don`t count for squat anymore (to him or her).
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Stealing is illegal, so there are no thefts, right?
    Pot is outlawed and no one smokes it.
    Police are told not to beat people so they don`t.

    Do you see where I`m going with this?
    Want me to spell it out for you?
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Gun control debates...? Really?

    Anything to make stories politicized.

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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:08 am
    Reading comments from retards who think guns are O.K is HIIIIILARIOUS!
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Lol at McGovern1981.
    "Because Gun crime and shootings are so common in the U.K or anywhere. Haha
    "I`m a stupid yanky-doodle-pie who cries about not having a gun wah wah" XD
    You guys are pathetic, stupid Yanks.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:14 am
    @8BitHero

    LOL! I can never take the opinion of how to run a country seriously from a place that pays taxes to royalty and just recently gave the prince the highest military rank possible! Good qualifications to lead an army there! Tell me hows that draft for olympic security going? Do they get guns like the royal wedding or do plebeians not need that protection?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:14 am
    Reading comments from retards who think taking firearms away from law abiding citizens who purchase them legally and don`t use them for criminal acts is O.K. is HIIIIILARIOUS!
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:20 am
    @McGovern1981
    Try staying on topic.
    "Herpus McDerpus I will start talking about why you point is invalid because you pay taxes to the Queen. Har har". WUT!? Sounds to me like you can`t even make a point.

    @whodat6484
    Ooh OK congrats you a law abiding citizen like the rest of the world, so I guess that gives you the right to hold a weapon. Oooh dem yanks are teh smrat ones yes! It`s a weapon dude. It`s meant to harm people. I don`t understand AMUUURICAN logic y`see. What about other countries without guns?

    You guys act like you need protection... from who!? That`s the thing, you guys want protection from other people. Acting like paranoid rats in a maze. You have no argument. It doesn`t matter how many shootings your country takes, you`ll still end up defending people having guns.
    Such stupidity. Bind Mlowing!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:22 am
    Be reasonable @Gerry1 and @McGovern and @WhoDat!
    If you passed a law making guns illegal, NO CRIMINAL would DARE break it! They`d all hand over their illegal firearms asap! Double-time even!
    /end sarc
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:23 am
    @8bithero - Your stupidity is amazing. Arrogant jerk.

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:25 am
    That`s the thing, you guys want protection from other people.
    @8BitHero: Last time I checked? A majority of crimes were committed by "other people". Not too many crimes NOT committed by people, eh?
    :roll eyes:
    Bears and beavers and such tend to be rather law-abiding...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:25 am
    mamba-"It`s about control..... controlling the guns."

    If you`re having problems controlling yoru guns, I `d suggest the `Weaver Stance`..much more stable.



    Oh, just noticed you were from Europe, where Momma Guv`mint doesn`t trust her infants with guns.

    Here`s the kind of control help you need:

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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Nice how all who are in favor of gun control are turning this into a let`s call McGovern a douche thread. Would be so much more interesting if you could intelligently state your opinions on the matter instead of simply insulting others for not sharing yours.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:28 am
    When it comes to gun control, and many other things, I don`t like prior restraint. It`s up to us what we do with the freedoms we have, and if we end up using it for an illegal purpose, then we should be punished.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:29 am
    5Cats:
    @8BitHero: Last time I checked?
    A majority of crimes were committed by "other people". Not too many crimes NOT committed by people, eh?
    :roll eyes:
    Bears and beavers and such tend to be rather law-abiding...

    WTF are you on about?
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    thefatviking Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:30 am
    Wow. it looks like the whole world need better mental help programs to keep sick poo like this from happening. Every time some psycho goes and shoots/blows up some public place all the dumb drats start arguing about gun control. More gun control could not have prevented this. The guy was obviously on a suicide mission, and had no regard for any laws. I think most nations in the world needs better programs to deal with things like this. They need to understand why crazy people feel that mass murder is the best thing for them to do. Maybe then they can understand these people and stop tragedies such as this from happening again, and stop the problem at the source. I also think that the media needs to be more responsible. Every time something like this happens the media plasters the killer`s name and picture all over the news, making murderers look like celebrities, which is exactly what the killers want.
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:31 am
    For people who area against guns and think they dont solve anything. Look at most states when they pass a concealed carry law most states crime went down. Because criminals dont know who has a gun. That 80 year old lady your about to mug may have a gun and will shoot your ass if you try to rob her.

    Other reason for guns is not just protection from other people(guns are great equalizer. A 90 year old frail lady can defend her self from a youthfull trained fighter for example) but even more so from our own country if need be. This sounds crazy yes but its honestly what our country was founded on.

    Criminals will always get weapons. Even if you destroyed EVERY GUN in the world they would use brass knuckles and knives and bows and arrows. Once you ban and destroy those they will carry rocks and sling shots. When you ban those and destroy those they will use fists. See the problem?

    For those who said they are for harm only. I get great pleasure from target shooti
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:33 am
    @8bithero--The right to bear arms is guaranteed in our constitution as a check against the power of government. In essence, the founding fathers decided that an armed populace is capable at the very least of forming a viable rebellion if our government becomes tyrannical. They knew this from experience, having just ended a war waged mainly by armed civilians.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:34 am
    8BitHero-"Reading comments from retards who think guns are O.K."

    Reading a comment from an ignorant retard who thinks guns are `ebil` is really, really sad.

    Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good we are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking victorious.
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:39 am
    -contd
    As i said going out and shooting some clay pigeons or plinking spinning targets with a 22 rifle when i was a kid was a blast. I dont hunt but that is also what rifles are useful for. There are plenty of reasons for firearms other then murder.

    Its not the weapons that kill people its the people using them. If guns kill people then spoons make people fat. So should we ban spoons to fight obesity since it kills people to?

    I was raised with numerous guns in my house. There wasn`t a spot you couldn`t find a gun in my house. We had hundreds of rounds of ammo for each gun. When i was 10 i could walk into my dads room grab my 10-22 and go out back and target practice with out supervision or asking. Because i was raised properly. IF raised properly and no mental illness guns are no threat in a persons hands.

    As far as collateral damage someone mentioned. If you have good aim which you should if your taking a shot at someone to kill. The concealed person ma
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:39 am
    -contd or 2 people but that is better then how many died here. Better to take 1 life then let 20 die.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:39 am
    if everybody had a gun that guy would have maybe got 1 or 2 shots off before everyone pulled out there 6 shooter from there side and gave this drater a couple new holes in his head.. if nobody has guns, well... this happens
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:42 am
    @McGrendel - That chess/pigeon analogy is the funniest sh*t I`ve ever read, I`m going to have to remember that one!!!

    @8BitHero - The level of your stupidity is what`s really amazing. I`m not even going to bother arguing your dumba$$. All of your comments on this website are "AMMMUUURRRICAA" "stupid yanks..." Sounds to me like you`re just a whiny little attention whore who likes to talk sh*t online, you clearly have nothing intelligent to say.
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    Bremir Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Typical Americans. No matter how many shootings happen in their country, they`ll always be the first to jump in and insult other countries for banning guns, and claiming anyone who says guns should be either banned, or harder to get hold of or anything that potentially stops them getting hold of them, are the ignorant ones.

    It takes a fool not to realise there`s something wrong when you apparently have the "right to bear fire arms", and the end result is this.

    Gloss over it all you want, you can`t have it both ways. Fourteen or more people are dead because of that moronic right.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Alot from the UK seem to think guns were banned for their protection. To that I ask then why does the government and royalty have armed gaurds? It`s for protection their protection not yours.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Tempers are flaring.
    Let`s all just calm down now, shall we?
    Here`s a photo to help you relax.


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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 11:00 am
    How many of you pro gunners agree with greenbasterd, because the only point I was trying to make at this juncture was that a firefight in a tear gas laced darkened cinema is not a good thing.

    Your aim is pretty shoddy and your pretty keen to fire off at shadows.. if this thread is anything to go by at least.

    and KEEP SHOUTING so I can see which side are the jerkwads.

    In the UK we have a lot less death by guns, but its not about lunatics like this, I agree you can`t legislate against this flavour of nutjob, its because we`ve banned guns from public ownership. It probably cannot be done in your country now, even if you were willing to give up your `right` to save a couple of people from accidental death by gun (a day).
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Ok Gerry I capitulate - that`s a very good reason for gun ownership - shoot the drater now!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2012 at 11:06 am
    It takes a fool not to realise there`s something wrong when you apparently have the "right to bear fire arms", and the end result is this.

    Banning guns does not stop gun crime as people can always find ways to bypass the law.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2012 at 11:10 am
    *guards
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:12 am
    remir-"Typical Americans...yadda yadda yadda...No matter how many shootings ...yadda yadda yadda...claiming anyone who says guns should be either banned..yadda yadda yadda...are the ignorant ones."

    Well, basically, they are. What`s your point.

    I understand why your government thinks you can`t be trusted with guns...they`d probably ban all pointy objects, too, if they could.

    remir-"Fourteen or more people are dead because of that moronic right."

    No, twelve people are dead because of a maniac. Would you feel better had he used a bomb? You may get your wish as they`ve had to evacuate 5 buildings due to his booby-trapped apartment.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Here`s another pro-gun control folks need to understand. Tragedy has been used to create some of THE WORST law and policy in the United States. Just look at Megan`s law, a horrific kidnapping case created horrific laws that waste money. Then of course the horror stories of awful work conditions from the Progressive era has left us with unconstitutional regulations which make it difficult to start a business.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:18 am
    Thanks Gerry, I neede that.


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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:20 am
    I`m sure it`s already been said but drugs are illegal and they`re pretty easy to get. Making something illegal doesn`t solve the problem. It takes a mountain of paperwork and a few months to get a concealed carry permit in NY state but if I wanted to I could make a few calls and probably have an illegal handgun in my possession by the end of the day.
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    anarchsoul Male 30-39
    593 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:23 am
    So are all of you saying, that if guns were made illegal, things like this would not happen? yeah, just like people don`t find and do illegal drugs.. And last I checked, poo like this happens in Europe as well.. But how about this, next time someone bombs a subway or building in your neck of the woods, try not to come crying to us `amuricans` for aid and support. Hypocritical little bastards..
  81. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:29 am
    How a gun makes you a tough target
  82. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:34 am
    It`s amazing to me that gun rights advocates always go on offense after these incidents. To assert that these tragedies wouldn`t happen if everyone carried guns is absurd logic. It wouldn`t give these individuals any pause if they thought some people might have a concealed weapon, because their main goal is often to outwardly express their own sense of inner turmoil on others, and are often suicidal anyway. Sure, a theater patron might have put a stop to it sooner. Or, he could have made the situation more dangerous. We have police for a reason.

    Personally, I despise guns but I know we`re not making them illegal anytime soon. If the argument is that there would be less crime if everyone carried, I could also make the opposite argument that there would be less crime if there were no guns at all. Both are unrealistic arguments. The problem is in the culture.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:38 am
    Armed gaurds at the royal wedding...

    Wonder if they`ll do the same at the Olympics seem to me someone doesn`t trust the plebs. Rather do as I say not as I do isn`t it?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2012 at 11:45 am

    LOL @ MeGrendel - you win an internet

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:45 am
    @FoolsPrussia

    Wouldn`t call it culture I`d say more like insanity mass shooting aren`t really something new check the link below. Tell me this though how many mass shooting do you see at a gun range they alway seem to take place in "gun free zones" don`t they?

    Rampage Killings worldwide.
  86. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:53 am
    We have police for a reason.

    First of all police tend to be AWAY from the scene when an incident starts. Then it takes time for them to arrive. Then there are those who have their own issues with the police and rather not lean on them to defend themselves.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Yeah,but was the movie good?
  88. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    Cajun: As I said, an ordinary citizen could potentially cause more harm that good. That`s why vigilantism is generally not condoned by society. We enter into a societal agreement that certain individuals will be appointed to protect us, even though they can`t (and shouldn`t) be everywhere all the time.
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    zazuch Male 18-29
    286 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    @FoolsPrussia

    Thats why you go through a mountain of paper work to get a concealed carry permit. They make sure your allowed and capable of using a weapon in any circumstance. Also yes its a movie theatre but last time i went it was still pretty damn bright in there and pretty sure the guy standing there shooting everyone would be the target not the masses of people running away from the guy holding a gun.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    Really? Really?!

    I just heard (probably late to the game) that some liberals are blaming conservatives for this.

    I just... What is this I don`t even......
  91. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    FoolsPrussia-"That`s why vigilantism is generally not condoned by society."

    Being shot at and shooting back is not `vegilantism`. It`s self defense.

    How many times do you hear of mass shootings? (too many)

    How often are the mass shooting taking place in locations where law abiding people can`t be armed? (that`s where the numbers killed is highest)

    Outside of those `kill zones`, how many times do you hear of someone STOPPING further shooting by killing the shooter? (quite a bit)

    How many times have you heard of the person (who you would call a `vegilanty`) hitting people other than the shooter? (can`t recall any)
  92. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    auburnjunky-" just heard that some liberals are blaming conservatives for this."

    That`s their MO. "Never let a crisis go to waste."

    They will insinuate (ABC waited less than 8 hours to try and link the Tea Party to it). They will lie and they make stuff up.

    When the facts come out one of two things will happend.
    If he leaned right, they will scream `WE WERE RIGHT` and harp on it for years.
    If he leaned left, they will say `his political leanings don`t matter, how DARE you try to bring politics into it`, and will never retract the original insinuations.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    I`ve got just the thing for the next NRA AGM:-

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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    megrendel, are you fcuking retarded? europe doesn`t have one government, mate you need to put your guns down, stop fcuking your sister, and live life like a normal person
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    i feel sorry for the ones shot and the ones who lost their lives, but you lot are fcukin crazy, you have no valid point, mcgovern and megrendel, and that fat mess whodat6484 need to do the world a favour and end your own lives, because its people like you who give america a bad name
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    uatme Male 18-29
    1074 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    I just realized that MacGuffin and McGovern are not the same person, well not the same user at least.

    Sad, and the old gun debate..
  97. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    MattPrince-"I`ve got just the thing for the next NRA AGM"

    So, your plan is to throw a bunch of firecrackers at a large group of gun users, carriers and enthusiasts?

    Exactly how long have you been a rocket scientist?

    The sad thing is, even though you don`t realize it, if you were you to pull such a stupid stunt, you`d have a much better chance of survival at a NRA event than at, say, a concert in Chicago.
  98. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    slimofswiv-"europe doesn`t have one government"

    You need to learn to read, dimwit. I didn`t say `Europe`s government`. I said `YOUR government` & `Mamma Guv`mint`. (I ship enough dangerous materials to Europe to realize the Europe has as many governments as the US has states.)

    slimofswiv-"you need to put your guns down"

    I realize that you are scared to death of little inanimate objects called `guns`, and you probably wet your pants anytime you get in a vehicle that has more than two cylinders, but don`t take your insecurities out on grown-ups, k?

    slimofswiv-"but you lot are fcukin crazy"

    I realize, that in your infantile mind, anyone who has the cajones to actually WANT a firearm meets your definition of `crazy`, but you need to realize that your irrational fear of anything more dangerous than a spork is a sign of a repressed and ignorant individual. Now go back to your Momma`s tit and quit bothering th
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    @MeGrendel, rocket science is actually pretty basic. Even a gun enthusiast should be able to work out force and reaction.

    You seem to be a lot better at dishing out than receiving. Maybe *you* should be wearing these?



    ..and there was a point in my post - what happens when multiple gun-nuts are concealing in the cinema, tear gas came in, panic started, several people start waving guns about...

    In the end, though, its all moot. I`m glad I wasn`t there when that went down, as it sounds like hell.
  100. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    rocket science is actually pretty basic.

    For a Aerospace Bachelor yes, not for a layman.
  101. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    what happens when multiple gun-nuts are concealing in the cinema, tear gas came in, panic started, several people start waving guns about

    It`s an >>unlikely<< scenario. Most of the time though the agressor ran off at the knowledge of the presence of a gun.
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    NOCASH Male 18-29
    423 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    There are no answers or solutions to situations like these. Crazy people will always be crazy and if they feel like going into a movie theater and shooting it up there isn`t much we can do about it except suffer the consequences. Having everyone carry their handgun in public would do more bad then good in the grand scheme of things, it would just turn into the wild west again, literally. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and there really isn`t a more absolute power then to take someones life from a moral standpoint. We created this evil and now we suffer the repercussions of it plain and simple. Not preaching for anti-gun legislation because anyone with half a brain knows it isn`t the answer and won`t stop things like this from happening again and again and again, just stating that my faith in humanity dwindles more everyday I guess.
  103. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33117 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    @8BitHero: You said that we are "acting like" we need protection from other people. That`s our point EXACTLY! It`s "other people" who are the danger, not the firearms they may or may not have.
    THAT`s what I`m on about...

    It`s heartening to know that several others "get" my point and are amazed at your foolishness...
  104. Profile photo of mamba
    mamba Male 18-29
    628 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    `Yeah banning guns would work, because just like when we banned drugs, people stopped dieing from drugs. There has not been a single case of death from a banned drug in over 50 years! Get real, dumbass.`

    That`s a terrible analogy. Firstly, as far as i know guns aren`t addictive. Secondly, there are a hell of a lot more deaths from legal drugs than there are from illegal drugs. Thirdly, sarcasm and calling me a dumbass? Don`t resort to that, it`s just petty.
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    zazuch Male 18-29
    286 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    @NOCASH
    Having everyone carry their handgun in public would do more bad then good in the grand scheme of things, it would just turn into the wild west again, literally.

    The differnance between now and the wild wild west. Is there were multiple gangs of criminals shoot at each other. People who have concealed carry know who is bad and who is right. When the one gunman is dead they stop. They wont shoot each other AND on top of that none of us every said everyone. There are some people who are more of a danger to them self if they bought a gun then the person they are trying to defend themselves against.
  106. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    MattPrince-"what happens when multiple gun-nuts are concealing in the cinema"

    There`s a better than even chance that less than 12 people would have been killed and less than 71 would have been injured. (and stop with the `gun-nut` crap. Just because a person chooses to exercise their right does not make them a `nut`.)

    Many times the appearance of a legal gun will difuse the situation before it gets out of hand. For those when it doesn`t, you hear many more stories of how the shooter was stopped than how innocent bystanders were hit (actually, never heard of one of the latter).
  107. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    zazuch-" it would just turn into the wild west again, literally."

    What? Where most was respectful and anyone who assaulted a woman could expect to be strung up?

    I hate to tell it to you, but the Wild West was not how it`s portrayed in movies. Look at the numbers: In Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell, for the years from 1870 to 1885, there were only 45 total homicides. This equates to a rate of approximately 1 murder per 100,000 residents per year. (Which, btw, was a lot lower homicide rate than the East Coast)

    Now, look at modern numbers: There is not a SINGLE state with numbers that low. The closest is New Hampshire with a number or 1.1 per 100,000. Washington D.C.`s is 30.8 and Compton, Calif. is 67.1.
  108. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33117 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 9:10 pm
    That`s why vigilantism is generally not condoned by society.
    @FP rightfully so. BUT defending one`s self from a gunman is NOT "vigilantism" at all!

    If several people chased the gunman, caught him and shot him dead, after he surrendered, without a trial, THAT is vigilantism!
  109. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33117 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    @McGovern`s LIST of RAMPAGE KILLERS worldwide is a real eye-opener!

    Shi Yuejun: Between Seot and Nov 2006 he killed 12 and wounded 4 with a knife!
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14652 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    @MattPrince not recommended; there`s a chance everyone would draw at once and nobody would be left standing.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    July 20, 2012 at 11:18 pm
    It`s got to the point where it doesn`t even raise my eyebrows anymore, so frequently do these things now occur in the US. There`ll be another one within 18 months, and we all know it.
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 12:58 am
    megrendel "Oh, just noticed you were from Europe, where Momma Guv`mint doesn`t trust her infants with guns." so i can read, you obviously type so much 5hit you can`t keep track, i`m not scared of inanimate objects, just worried for the innocents that pay the ultimate price when fools like you get hold of them, you can`t justify it no matter how hard you try
  113. Profile photo of slimofswiv
    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 1:03 am
    megrendel, you can`t assume anything about a governmentjust because its in europe, they`re not all the same, so your "Oh, just noticed you were from Europe, where Momma Guv`mint doesn`t trust her infants with guns." 5hit is nonsense
  114. Profile photo of TheBairn
    TheBairn Male 50-59
    4 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 4:30 am
    America really needs to wake up. The UK did after Dunblane, and that worked. If you have a gun it`s 5years in prison - no exceptions. Now we just need to do the same for knives, especially here in Scotland. I want these scum off of the streets. Sadly we`re relying on Kenny Macaskill(who I`m sure Americans know well) and he`s a pathetic, weak-minded embarassment. How that man is still in office is beyond me.
  115. Profile photo of HiEv
    HiEv Male 40-49
    621 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 4:45 am
    If 40% of gun deaths are homicides, 3% are accidents, and 2% are justified shootings (based on 2005 CDCP statistics), what exactly makes pro-gun people think that more guns somehow means *less* homicides and accidental shooting deaths?? (The other 55% are suicides.)

    Another study ("Investigating the Link Between Gun Possession and Gun Assault" (PDF), AJPH 2009) shows that people that possess firearms are 4.46 times more likely to be shot in an assault than people that don`t. This suggests that you`re *less* safe by being armed, not more.

    I`m really having trouble understanding how people can use a shooting that kills and injures so many people to justify having *more* guns. More people shooting in a crowded theater sounds like a bad idea to me.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
    621 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 5:03 am
    Also, does anyone find it ironic that this happened at a *Batman* movie? He was inspired to become Batman because his parents were shot to death after going to the theater, and he fights crime *without* the use of guns.

    FYI, the numbers are up to 12 dead and 58 injured now, most but not all of the injured people were shot. The semi-automatic rifle, shotgun, and two pistols James Holmes (the shooter) had were all purchased legally, along with over 6,000 rounds of ammunition. The man`s apartment is also apparently booby-trapped with explosives (they`re still attempting to enter safely).
  117. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33117 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 6:34 am
    @TheBairn: Welcome to IAB!
    UK Still Has Mass Killings even after Dunblane, eh?
    Canada has similar laws about using firearms in crimes, for 20+ years now! Use agun in a crime = 1 year manditory jail time. You know how many times it`s been used? 3 (three). Every other time it`s "plea bargained" away.
    LAWS don`t DO anything!
    Police, courts and prisons DO SOMETHING about crime, ok?

    @HiEv: I`m absolutely certain the gunman chose that movie on purpose. Why? idk, that`s for the trial to find out.

    As for "insanity": I read a fine article claiming he`s NOT INSANE in the technical sense. He`s obviously not "normal" but, like the Joker, is removed from common morality for some reason.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 6:43 am
    The Bairn

    "America really needs to wake up. The UK did after Dunblane, and that worked"

    That is simply a lie. Gun crime has risen since Dunblane. the laws passed make no sense at all, especially considering the gunman should not have had a weapon even under the existing gun laws: makes regulation look stupid.

    If you had a good case you would not be dishonest.
  119. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 9:36 am
    slimofswiv-" you can`t justify it no matter how hard you try"

    Don`t you mean `can`t justify it` to YOU?

    Luckily, we don`t HAVE to justify it to you. Because your feelings on the matter mean exactly dick.

    TheBairn-"Now we just need to do the same for knives"

    In the south, knives a prevelent. Everyone has one in their pocket. They are a TOOL. We do NOT have a problem with them.

    Are you REALLY so scared of inanimate objects that you want to outlaw ANYTHING that could be used to harm? What next? #2 pencils? (well, `I` certainly wouldn`t trust you two with a #2 pencil...ya`ll likely put an eye out.)
  120. Profile photo of An-egg
    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 9:57 am
    What needs to be done is
    -ban guns;
    -put the TSA on movie theater entrances to grope everyone

    That would make everyone safe.
  121. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 10:33 am
    An-egg-"What needs to be done is
    -ban guns;"

    Sorry, can`t be done. Didn`t work for drugs, didn`t work for alcohol. There`s nothing magic about a gun. Too easy to manufacture, distribute and maintain.

    "-put the TSA on movie theater entrances to grope everyone "

    I have a feeling most of your `random` gropings would be for `G` movies
  122. Profile photo of An-egg
    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 10:50 am
    I wasn`t being entirely serious
    but I am sure somebody will suggest it
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    4080 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    @MeGrendel

    When knives can take out 50+ in a minute we can compare the two.

    Really the only thing that needs to happen is doing something about assault rifles. There is NO reason for anyone not in the military to have one. Cops included. I love my guns and I love the right having them however, something does need to be done. You can`t stop crazy psycho`s all the time but making it harder to get weapons is a start.
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    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Here`s another
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    Megrendel you`re a fcuking idiot, 40 something and still playing with guns, grow up you inbred fcuker
  126. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    Hey slim, why don`t you go grab a pistol so you can ACTUALLY shoot yourself in the foot.

    Seriously though, you don`t have a point to prove.
  127. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    normalfreak2-"Really the only thing that needs to happen is doing something about assault rifles."

    The only problems is, so far it seems, this guy did not use an assault rifle. There is a specific definition of `assault rifle`. A requirement of being defined as and assault rifle is that it includes a switch that permits it to fire like a semiautomatic rifle or as a fully automatic rifle.

    Seeing as it`s been stated that he owned these legally, and automatic weapons or HIGHLY regulated, it`s doubtful he had one.
  128. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6262 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    slimofswiv-"40 something and still playing with guns"

    I realize that in your infantile (and demented) little mind, anyone who owns a gun does nothing but set around all day naked holding a gun in one hand while they lube up and masterbate with the other (you know, kind of like you do with your Justin Bieber poster), but please quit projecting your own perversions on grown up, k?

    Do you still sit behind the wheel of your moms car in the driveway, turning the wheel and making `vroom, vroom` sounds and imagine what it`s like to have a pair of testicles?
  129. Profile photo of Missmap
    Missmap Female 30-39
    65 posts
    July 21, 2012 at 6:49 pm
    Wow. Why does everyone have to turn every tragic event on here into a political statement? Guns helped us to become a free country yet people use them to kill people every day. Clearly the person who did this was mentally ill. End of story.

    People died in there. have some respect for them and leave the personal opinions to your self. At least long enough for the whole truth to come out.
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 22, 2012 at 3:06 am
    megrendel, its masturbate, learn to spell, i`d love to bump into you, bet you would`t be so mouthy in person, fcukin keyboard warrior, keep talkin your 5hit, go play with your guns, i`ll live my lovely life in england, land of hope and glory, oh and just remember, last words are for fools who haven`t said enough ;-)
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 22, 2012 at 3:09 am
    cajun, who threw you a peanut? i was talking to the organ grinder not the monkey
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 22, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    "Now we just need to do the same for knives"

    ROFL!!!

    @slimofswiv

    Banned unless it`s to protect the royal family rigth? Keep banning watch how that goes you should really open your eyes.

  133. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    July 23, 2012 at 7:54 am
    Cajun: As I said, an ordinary citizen could potentially cause more harm that good. That`s why vigilantism is generally not condoned by society. We enter into a societal agreement that certain individuals will be appointed to protect us, even though they can`t (and shouldn`t) be everywhere all the time.
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    slimofswiv Male 30-39
    116 posts
    July 23, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    ;-)
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    An-egg Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    OK so my browser reposted try this
  136. Profile photo of An-egg
    An-egg Male 30-39
    885 posts
    July 24, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    If he`s a genius then why didn`t he put a timer on his apartment?

    or a cellphone?

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