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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 8:46 am
    Link: Rodney King, Dead At 47, Found In A Swimming Pool - Here`s the video that eventually sparked the LA Riots. He was found dead in a pool yesterday. Details are coming in...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

    This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day.

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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 9:01 am
    1992 LA riot?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 9:10 am
    This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day.

    Oh really? And why does the death of anyone, let alone this person, "make your day", Gerry?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Why is this newsworthy? Unless someone has a video of his being drowned by a bunch of cops?
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 10:33 am
    That is quite the asskicking..
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 10:42 am
    `You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day.`

    I really do not understand why anyone would celebrate this death. Rodney King may have had a troubled life, but he didn`t deserve to be beaten like that. And it`s not his fault that people reacted negatively to the verdict.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 10:55 am
    I really do not understand why anyone would celebrate this death. Rodney King may have had a troubled life, but he didn`t deserve to be beaten like that. And it`s not his fault that people reacted negatively to the verdict.

    It`s just Gerry being a closet racist, right-wing cretin again. It happens occasionally that his mask slips like that. It`s OK, though: because he`s gay and funny, and apparently you`re allowed to be racist and revel in the death of people you don`t like if you`re gay and funny.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2012 at 10:57 am
    So...have the usual racism-promoters blamed whites and started riots yet?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 11:21 am
    @MacGuffin Pretty sure Gerry has admitted to being a racist before. I don`t really have a problem with him if he admits his flaws. You and Markust could really learn a lot from him in that respect.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 11:23 am
    I thought something really racist when I read this title. I feel bad now.
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    Xpekt Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Oof... Well said MacGuffin!
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Admitting you`re a racist isn`t something that really earns my respect. I would respect him if he admitted his bias and made an honest attempt to reconcile it and attempt to make the change.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 11:43 am
    @MacGuffin Pretty sure Gerry has admitted to being a racist before. I don`t really have a problem with him if he admits his flaws.

    The only thing I`m intolerant of, is intolerance. And I don`t think I`ve got anything to learn from any racist, however candid they may be about their racism.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 11:47 am
    @MacGuffin
    I`m curious, do you actually have any friends? If you say the same things in real life that you do on here, I couldn`t imagine anyone wanting to be around you. What do you do for a living? Do you actually do anything worthwhile or helpful other than spewing your self-righteous and arrogant nonsense on a mediocre website?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 11:50 am
    @FoolsPrussia Who said he wasn`t trying to correct it? I`m willing to bet that 80% of the people on this site are actually racist. Just because you aren`t vocal about your prejudices doesn`t mean you don`t have racist thoughts. I bet most of you people going on and on about intolerance only have white, middle class (or higher) friends.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    He may well be working on it, but if he`s going to express a bias here, I`m going to call him out on it. It is in our evolutionary nature to have a bias against someone different than us, but it is also illogical and counterproductive to express those beliefs in a modern society in which we are all forced to work together. He has to expect to be called out if he`s going to say stuff like that.
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    ledgehead Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    There are only two things I can`t stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people`s cultures... and the Dutch.
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    ChrisP12 Male 40-49
    186 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Can`t we all just learn to swim?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    I`m curious, do you actually have any friends? If you say the same things in real life that you do on here, I couldn`t imagine anyone wanting to be around you. What do you do for a living? Do you actually do anything worthwhile or helpful other than spewing your self-righteous and arrogant nonsense on a mediocre website?

    1) Plenty, thanks. None of them are racists, homophobes or any other type of intolerant fool.

    2) I`m a software developer and technical expert, that`s worked all over for all kinds of organisations.

    3) You`re on the same "mediocre website" as me, commenting on what I have to say. What does that say about you, in your own value system?
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    ChrisP12 Male 40-49
    186 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    Triple 6 is right. If Hitler had won and the globe were populated by blonde blue eyed super people. The tall blondes would hate the short ones, the fat ones would hate the skinny ones, and all would hate MacGuffin.
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    ChrisP12 Male 40-49
    186 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    ...super people, the tall blondes...
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    fatex52986 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    SHould have killed that stupid drating piece of poo I am a racist!.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    SHould have killed that stupid drating piece of poo I am a racist!.

    And you`re not even gay or funny. Guess that just makes you a jerk, eh?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    As far as I know King was a small time miscreant who was the subject of a totally unjustified, brutal, life-threatening beating by racist cops. Why the intensity of hate towards him?

    He didn`t organise or start any riots. Have I missed something? Really, why do people feel the need to say they are glad he is dead? Is it personal? Did he piss on your corn flakes?

    I agree with FoolsPrussia, admitting you are a racist doesn`t earn respect.

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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    @eddy666


    `I`m curious, do you actually have any friends? `

    I`m curious, are you actually that stupid?
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    People that are happy that guy is dead - You`re fuc*ing idiots.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    eddy.
    Also, `...only have white, middle class (or higher) friends.`

    Aw, that`s almost endearing. Is that what you imagine? That anyone who objects to bigotry and intolerance is living in a heady world of privilege and country supper parties?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6183 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Watch out Michael Phelps, black people are attempting to learn to swim. Your time is almost up.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Okay, I`m back from the movies. Believe it or not, I do not just sit here all day waiting for MacGuffin to spew out her special brand of venom.

    Yes, Mac I do call myself a racist. Anyone who does not agree with the libretard agenda will be called a racist so I just own it in advance. Thinking people have to own up to their responsabilities in life and stop blaming others for their lot is "racist" nowadays so that`s what I am.

    As for Rodney King, he was a waste of space and air, and the world will turn easier without his weight dragging it down. Not because he was black. Not because he deserved that beating {he didn`t} but because of his behavior and choices leading up to the beating and his behavior and choices after it. He has in all ways been a giant douche bag and I`m not shedding a single tear over his departure from this life.

    But someone will say it`s `cause I`m a racist... so be it.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    Some of you people are pretty sick drats.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    eddy666

    "I bet most of you people going on and on about intolerance only have white, middle class (or higher) friends"

    I only have white middle class friends, but I`m not racist or classist. It is just all the minorities and poor people I come across are stupid. Or at the very least act and speak in a manner which suggest their latent stupidity. I know there are smart black people and smart poor people. If I ever meet one I would be friends with them.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Time to break out the shotgun in preparation for the race war.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    I probably would not have liked Rodney King, had I ever met him; He made a habit of poor choices, choices that the media of all sides exploited for their own purposes.
    But back during the riots after the sad/laughable verdicts clearing those officers came down, Mr. King appeared on television calling for peace.
    I believed him to have been sincere.
    He could have fanned the flames with righteous indignation, but did not. Instead, he stood calling for reconciliation and unity- and he did it with dignity.
    That is how I choose to remember Rodney King.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    Yes, Mac I do call myself a racist. Anyone who does not agree with the libretard agenda will be called a racist so I just own it in advance.

    Oh, right, is that why you call yourself racist, is it? And here was me thinking it was because you revel in the deaths of black people.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    but he (King) didn`t deserve to be beaten like that.
    Yes in fact he DID deserve it @FoolsPrussia! He was driving insanely dangerously, high on PCP, refused dozens of orders to stop fighting and attacked the police (it`s in the few seconds BEFORE this clip starts, this is the "edited" clip, eh?)

    a closet racist, right-wing cretin again
    @MacGuffin: As @Eddy said, @Gerry1 is openly racist, openly gay but he does remain a closeted "right winger" ;-)
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    Gerry.

    Hang on a minute. You chose to post a comment reoicing in someone`s death and MacGuffin called you on it, so she is spewing venom?

    `Anyone who does not agree with the libretard agenda will be called a racist` Wow, that went downhill pretty fast. Gerry, it`s clear that you are smart enough to see just how puerile that line of argument is.

    But to repeat my earlier question (and I hope you enjoyed the movie) why does King bother you so much?
    Thinking people have to own up to their responsabilities in life and stop blaming others for their lot is "racist" nowadays...`

    No. it isn`t. And if someone suggests that it is then you really should have a better response than `libretard` and `Yeah, I`m a racist, so what.`
    `



    `
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    eddy.
    Also, `...only have white, middle class (or higher) friends.`

    Aw, that`s almost endearing. Is that what you imagine? That anyone who objects to bigotry and intolerance is living in a heady world of privilege and country supper parties?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6649 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    @eddy666


    `I`m curious, do you actually have any friends? `

    I`m curious, are you actually that stupid?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6649 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    As far as I know King was a small time miscreant who was the subject of a totally unjustified, brutal, life-threatening beating by racist cops. Why the intensity of hate towards him?

    He didn`t organise or start any riots. Have I missed something? Really, why do people feel the need to say they are glad he is dead? Is it personal? Did he piss on your corn flakes?

    I agree with FoolsPrussia, admitting you are a racist doesn`t earn respect.

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    As for King himself, he`s DANG lucky to have not been shot dead that night.
    Irony: If he HAD been killed, all those who died in the riots would still be alive...
    But that`s obviously not his fault, obviously!

    His "can`t we all just get along" line is historic! For what I`m not sure. Irony? Stupidity? Sincerity? idk.

    He got piles of cash in the settlement, squandered much of it, got caught with cocain, married, divorced & etc.

    But he seems to have cleaned up and straightened his life out this past decade or so. He`s a "D-list" celebrity, so his death makes the news.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    `married, divorced & etc.`

    What a bastard. Are you sure about the PCP?

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    LordJim, any white guy who does not agree all black men are oppressed is called a racist. Don`t believe me? Well, please note that I made a flip comment that basicly said I`m not mourning King`s loss and MacGuffin called me a "closet racist, right-wing cretin". Of course, all conservatives are "racists". Everyone knows that. Especially "tolerant" people like MacGuff.

    "Spewing Venom" is not based on this one comment alone. I say that based on what I`ve seen in most of the threads she comments on. Sometimes I agree with her, more often Not.

    As for "rejoicing" that`s a strong word. More like I don`t give a good god damn. I think I explained my thoughts for King already.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    Can someone please explain to me how saying "good riddance" to the news of Rodney King`s death makes him a racist? Insensitive maybe, but how racist?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    @LordJim
    How was that question stupid? I was simply asking MacGuffin if she had any friends.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    @MacGuffin
    In response to 1) I have 2 or 3 racist friends. I don`t like the fact that they are racist, but I also don`t let that one little thing get in the way of our friendship. I also have gay, black, hispanic, and asian friends. I myself am not a racist.

    2)I think you misunderstood my question. I was asking what you did to help make the world a better place as in community service and things of that nature. You talk down to everyone on this site like we are all bigots, so I was wondering what you DID that makes you so much better than us in that nature. However, since you started the subject. What kind of software development do you do? Also, what are these companies that you work for? I am not familiar with Scotland`s software industry, so I am actually interested in hearing about it.

    3)It says nothing about me. I don`t come on this website acting like I`m better than everyone else. I don`t know or particularly care.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    @manorrd It`s the same logic that dictates that George Zimmerman, anyone who thinks he is innocent, and anyone who has ONE conservative ideal is a racist and homophobe.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    @LordJim
    "I agree with FoolsPrussia, admitting you are a racist doesn`t earn respect. "

    Not surprising. Humility isn`t something people find valuable anymore these days. Everyone has to look down on everyone else. Why do you think the US is in the pooter these days? No politician is willing to admit and learn from their mistakes.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    `He was driving insanely dangerously, high on PCP`

    He was not on PCP. The cops thought he was but toxicology reports said otherwise.Source

    Even if he were on phencyclidine, it wouldn`t warrant the savageness of the beating. People on PCP are strong and fearless, but officers are trained to swarm and subdue an individual like that, not mercilessly beat him with batons when he can`t resist.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm
    `But back during the riots after the sad/laughable verdicts clearing those officers came down, Mr. King appeared on television calling for peace.
    I believed him to have been sincere.`

    This. Well said.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    "This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day."

    i dont think that was really a proper thing to say about this at all Gerry...but knowing you you dont care...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    Are you sure about the PCP?
    @LordJim: King wasn`t convicted of it (iirc) but his passenger (who was so terrified by King`s driving he jumped from the speeding car) said they`d both been doing PCP that evening.

    @FoolsPrussia: The 4 Officers involved had recently completed a baton training course! They knew exactly what & whan to do it, but since the Taser didn`t even slow King down they had only two options left: Guns or Batons.

    They gave King every opportunity to lay down, he repeated got up to attack them. HOW did he "not deserve it"?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Again, the PCP issue is an urban legend. SOURCE
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    @FoolsPrussia
    Not saying wikipedia isn`t accurate, but I wouldn`t consider it a valid source in an argument such as this one. The citations on wikipedia could be weak. Perhaps link police reports or something of that nature?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    LOL reading all these comments: MacGuffin, you really do know how to stir up a hornet`s nest, don`t you? =^.^=
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    @Eddy: Wikipedia was the 2nd link I posted. Scroll down a bit and you`ll see I posted a link to a news story from 1993. Anyway, the wiki post contains citations.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    June 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    poor soul, i hardly knew him...seriously who is he?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Nothing like a Rodney King post to bring out the ignorance and superiority in people. Everyone has their prejudices. It comes from the days of tribes and having to recognize outside threats quickly. Being a racist is easy and lazy. The hard part is admitting ones flaws and working towards being a better person. I bet Gerry is a lot less racist then some of the people on here being superior. Because he has admitted this flaw.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    My kids know better than to ever talk to police. If they do and I find out, they`re grounded. Don`t talk to police on the street, not in school, not ever. Not even if they tell you to. They know that they`re only supposed to let the police know that they are not allowed to speak to them and must come see me.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    We have this game, I say "Oh no, it`s the police! What do we do?" The kids cover their eyes and duck and say "We hide, we run! We don`t talk to no police!"
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    @FoolsPrussia I`m not doubting you. I`m just saying for future reference, I don`t really want to dig through wikipedia citations to find out how accurate the information in the article is. Also, I somehow missed your post.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    @HolyGod
    "It is just all the minorities and poor people I come across are stupid. Or at the very least act and speak in a manner which suggest their latent stupidity."

    There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. I bet some of these minorities that you have "come across" are actually smarter than you. It`s not their fault that we have a systemic problem in regards to education and less fortunate people. Also, can you truly be tolerant and unprejudiced if you choose friends based on what you think constitutes intelligence or stupidity? I`m not going to lie, your statement DOES have truth to it, unfortunately. However, you can`t allow that truth to give you such a superiority complex like your statement implies. You`re probably missing out on a lot of good friends.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    @Markust
    "It comes from the days of tribes and having to recognize outside threats quickly."

    What psychological theory are you alluding to with this quote? I`m not really all that versed in the field of psychology.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    @Eddy: @markust is refering to something I hold to be true which is: Caveman Theory! (NOTE! Actualy psychologists and sociologists MAY have a different name for this, but it`s the same stuff).

    When we were all cavemen, it was essential to know what was dangerous and what was food. Those who failed to figure this out were eaten!

    As we progressed into the tribal era, it changed to: WHO is safe and who`s a threat.

    Family era and tribal era cavemen spent a LOT of time fighting amoung themselves, killing "others" and stealing their stuff.

    THUS: It is hard-wired into us to instantly react ("fight or flight") when faced with unknown animals or strangers.

    @FP: King was high on something! Even if he was "only drunk" his own friend said he was loaded and out of his mind that night.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    Oh, I forgot to explain it!

    Caveman Theory: 99% of everything we do as social humans can be explained by our cavemen stage. It can get complicated, but I`ve found almost nothing that being a caveman cannot explain.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    @5Cats Oh yea, I`ve heard of that before.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    I made a flip comment that basicly said I`m not mourning King`s loss

    Excuse me, dear proudly self-proclaimed racist, but I believe what you actually said was:

    "This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day. "

    Which is a *little* bit stronger of a sentiment than just not being upset at the news of King`s death - rather, you were for some reason jubilant that a black man that had been central in an infamous case of racial intolerance had died. I notice you`ve still not adequately explained why his death cheered you up so much?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    I was asking what you did to help make the world a better place as in community service and things of that nature.

    In that case, why did you ask, and I quote:

    "What do you do for a living?"

    As for what I`ve done recently that made anyone`s life any better. That`s really my business, but just to give you some idea:

    i) I recently fixed a neighbour`s knackered computer, sitting up until 3am to do so, and didn`t take any payment for it.

    ii) I helped get someone out of prison that had been given an egregious sentence for a trivial crime. Funnily enough, they were convicted by a draconian American court.

    iii) I`m a member of Amnesty International, and regularly partake in their activities.

    And that`s just some of the affirmative action I take. But, enough about me: what makes you so well-placed to question my personal merit, may I ask? What have you done for the world at large recently?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    @MacGuffin
    "In that case, why did you ask, and I quote:

    "What do you do for a living?""
    Touche. I often forget what I ask. Sorry.

    Anyways, unfortunately, I haven`t had time this past year to do much, but before that I did a good bit of service. The year before that I volunteered and helped out a not-so-great public school in my area, as well as smaller services here and there. Anyways, the only reason I asked you is because I wanted to at least know if you have some merit to back up your pretentiousness.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    What I want to know is, how in hell does a low-life, piece of dog$#!+, scumbag like this deserve a house with a swimming pool?

    When he got up off of the ground and attacked the cops, they should have just shot him and saved us all a lot of grief. Oh, well, better late than never.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    `King was high on something! Even if he was "only drunk" his own friend said he was loaded and out of his mind that night.`

    As far as I know, he was over the legal limit for alcohol and there was marijuana in his system. How recent, I do not know. Anyway, I still fail to see how the savagery of the beating was justified in any way. A policeman`s job is to subdue and arrest the suspect, not cripple him. Even though the cops were acquitted and the riots occurred, the whole situation actually forced the LAPD to rethink their tactics. At least some good came out of the whole mess.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:57 am
    @MacGuffin: I think your charge of racism against Gerry is unwarranted. While I can`t speak for Gerry, after all this time I think I have a pretty good handle on his thinking.

    (1) Gerry`s all about individual responsibility and it irks him whenever someone behaving like a jerk gets a free pass, or is revered, because of the political climate. Leaving the police beating aside, it`s pretty clear Rodney King was a never-do-well who was perpetually getting into trouble. That fact often gets overlooked or whitewashed in the rush of the left to defend a victim of police brutality.

    (2) Gerry`s often flip about things. Had it been Kim Kardashian that passed, I have no doubt he would`ve made the same obituaries joke, or something similar, about her.

    Lastly, MacGuffin, I must say that I sometimes think you would benefit from a lighter touch. You don`t always have to go for the jugular, you know. =^.^=
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    ava Female 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:28 am
    rest in peace Rodney King...

    I think its sad how the cops drated his life and that is what abuse does...you don`t get over it...

    drat the police...as Ice T/Body Count sings...
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    ava Female 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:50 am
    I can`t believe all the people on here just waiting to kick the boot into him, just like the cops. walk a mile in his shoes. not everyone can make a good choice if the only choice is bad choice 1 or bad choice 2. he could have been a lot worse, a serial killer, rapist, murderer, pedophile etc...just look at all the corrupt cops out there. I can`t believe the judgemental dratheads on here...I feel sorry for the world if this is a slice of its people...and funny how the ones that aren`t racist morons are getting attacked on here...pphhhfff...
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 18, 2012 at 3:42 am
    ava this is the internet :| you have a lot to learn if you still feel sorry for the rest of the world :|
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    ava Female 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 4:19 am
    collegebound...
    lol...yeah...I thought as I got older I would harden the drat up and get used to all this hate, negativity and bullpoo. but it tends to be the reverse, it just ends up getting to you when you know life could be very pleasant-for everyone- but so many feed on hate and negativity...sad...

    be blessed ; )
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:01 am
    I think your charge of racism against Gerry is unwarranted. While I can`t speak for Gerry, after all this time I think I have a pretty good handle on his thinking. ... Had it been Kim Kardashian that passed, I have no doubt he would`ve made the same obituaries joke

    You`re right, squirrelz: you *can`t* speak for Gerry. He can only do that for himself. When he did speak for himself, he called himself a racist; I think I`ll give his own assessment of himself more weight than your assessment of him on this occasion. And it wasn`t Kim Kardashian he commented on: it was Rodney King, and he still hasn`t explained why Mr King`s passing cheered him up so much.

    ...
  78. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:01 am

    I must say that I sometimes think you would benefit from a lighter touch. You don`t always have to go for the jugular

    This just in: I`m not interested in being nice or donning a fluffy bunny act for the sake of it, especially where racists and other intolerant people are concerned, however much it might make my criticism of them easier for them to swallow.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:44 am




    MacGuffin, "I`m not interested in being nice"



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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:46 am
    @MacGuffin:

    This just in: I`m not interested in being nice or donning a fluffy bunny act for the sake of it, especially where racists and other intolerant people are concerned, however much it might make my criticism of them easier for them to swallow.

    You might want to rethink that. (OK, maybe not the "fluffy bunny" part, but the "nice" part.)

    (1) If you are correct and you are confronting a racist, engaging him in dialogue that steers him toward reevaluating his position is more effective than attacking him. In 20 years on the internet, I`ve never seen anything productive come out of attacking someone. I *have* seen people moderate or even reverse their views when they`ve been granted a modicum of respect.

    (2) If you`re mistaken and are falsely attacking someone in your belief that he`s a racist, you`ve just perpetrated the same kind of intolerance you are ostensibly opposed to.
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    Azaram Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:46 am
    What`d he drop?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:51 am

    For the record, if Kim Kardashian did die I would not shed one bloody tear.

    As for my racism, I am a RACIST because I hold all races, creeds, religions, etc to the exact same standard without any exceptions nor any speacial privelage or waiver nor excuse for bad behavior. I do not believe in organizations like the NAACP nor do I approve laws like Affirmative Action with it`s quotas to hire specific racial groups regardless of qualifications.

    Yes, these are my sins. I can`t expect others to act like adults and own up to their choices if I don`t myself. So I Own It - I`m called a racist for it and so be it, I`ll own that too.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 6:55 am

    Now, if Barbra Streisand died I`d be prostrate with grief.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 7:00 am
    good now wee can stop hearing about it
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 7:01 am
    I notice you`ve *still* not explained why you`re happy at Rodney Kind`s death, Gerry. Wassupwiththat? Quick - post a funny picture again: it`ll make your revelling in the death of a victim of racial discrimination and police brutality more acceptable. To people like squirrelz at least (who for some strange reason thinks being nice to racists is more important than being tolerant).
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    June 18, 2012 at 7:10 am

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 7:15 am

    @ MacGuffin - Sometimes you just have to think something through for yourself. If a joke has to be explained to you, it loses all `funny`. I know the joke is a good because I stole it from one of the greatest American writers of speculative fiction, Robert A. Heinlein.

    Maybe if you said it out loud you could figure it out. But if not, why obsess on it? I read in your earlier post that you`re not interested in being nice, but perhaps you could develop an interest in letting poo go.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 7:38 am
    @MacGuffin:

    Wow, MacGuffin. I tried. I thought for sure a little light of self-awareness might blink on above your head with my last post, but I guess not.

    So: Good luck to you in this personal crusade of yours to make everyone else on the internet as humorless and intolerant as yourself.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Wow, MacGuffin. I tried. I thought for sure a little light of self-awareness might blink on above your head with my last post, but I guess not.

    So: Good luck to you in this personal crusade of yours to make everyone else on the internet as humorless and intolerant as yourself.

    And just what is so "intolerant" about calling out a self-professed racist on a racist comment they`ve made, Sqrlz? You know, sometimes giving someone a pass to make racist comments just because you personally like them (or because they happen to be gay+funny) just doesn`t work, whatever you may believe in your naive little world view. Appeasement as a policy has been shown time and again to cause the person you appease to go right on doing whatever unacceptable thing it is you are tolerating.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 10:27 am

    MacGuffin - a clarification please, What in my comment was racist? People of all races will die and some I`ll mourne, some I won`t. What in my comment said I didn`t care if he died because he was black?

    I think you read that into it.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 18, 2012 at 10:35 am
    "This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day." is what you said Gerry. while it may have not been the proper way to respond to this post it most certainly wasn`t racist (at least not visibly). MacGuffin Squrlz wasnt saying to "be nice to racists". he was saying to show them respect and to still treat them as human beings. the whole "two negatives doesnt make a positive" argument.

    god bless you too ava :)
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:19 am
    MacGuffin - a clarification please, What in my comment was racist?

    Collegebound got in before me, Gerry. The most specific thing you`ve said in this thread that suggests you are a racist is, and I quote:

    "I do call myself a racist".

    However, my original concern was with your comment :

    "This is why I read the obituaries first thing every morning.
    You never know when a name will appear that just makes your day"

    Which as I`ve pointed out is a rather stronger sentiment to express than the position you`ve since tried to revise your stance to of merely "not mourning" King.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:19 am
    You know I lament American foreign policy, right? You know I consider US military personnel that participated in the Iraq War to be war criminals? Ever heard me celebrating or gloating when a US soldier gets killed? - No, and you never will. Because gloating over the death of an individual you disagree with or dislike is without class, and in this case racist.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:27 am
    MacGuffin Squrlz wasnt saying to "be nice to racists". he was saying to show them respect and to still treat them as human beings. the whole "two negatives doesnt make a positive" argument.

    I`m sure that was what squrlz was saying. However, as far as being respectful goes, I`ve been perfectly respectful to Gerry herein; I`ve merely asked him some questions based on his comments, questions that others have recognised as being perfectly legitimate, and those questions appear to have made him uncomfortable. I happen to think it`s naive to think that you can change anyone`s beliefs after a certain point. Racists tend to stay racist, and homophobes tend to stay homophobic, no matter how eloquently you express your disagreement to them or dissatisfaction with them. The best you can do is speak up, and at least let them and any passive listeners know those views wont be tolerated in silence.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:28 am
    @MacGuffin Is Gerry`s sarcasm flying over your head or are you just ignoring it?

    @Gerry
    Your claiming the title of a racist reminds me of a quote from the book Huckleberry Finn, just thought I`d let ya know.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:31 am
    @MacGuffin:

    You think a joke is inappropriate? Fine: Call the person on it. That`s what Collegebound did and he did it perfectly.

    Where you err is in making a snap judgment and proclaiming Gerry a racist, apparently in the belief that your knowledge of others is perfect. "But he`s declared himself a racist!" you say. Don`t be obtuse: That`s a rhetorical technique of Gerry`s that he often usess. It translates to, "I`m unable to reach you with rational argument, so I`m throwing in the towel just so we can move on. Fine. Have it your way. I`m ."

    To misread that statement of his and then describe him in later posts as "a self-professed racist" is juvenile.

    You`re so busy pinning dismissive labels onto everyone here at IAB (This one`s racist, this one`s stupid, this one`s a war criminal, this one`s a furry...) I imagine it won`t be long before you have no one left to interact with.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:34 am
    "Racists tend to stay racist, and homophobes tend to stay homophobic,"

    its just that. they TEND to. tbh idrc if you`ve been respectful or not to anyone. i also dont give gerry`s comment too much thought. this is the internet. just felt like putting in my 2 cents worth :) i havent had an argument with anyone from here lately and now i feel better. thanks for playing :)
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:42 am
    Addendum @MacGuffin:

    The root of intolerance is the conviction that your views are the only ones that are correct and the conviction that you can never be wrong.

    I`m pretty sure this will bounce right off you like water off a duck`s back, MacGuffin, but I have to say you are one of the most intolerant people I`ve met on IAB.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 11:50 am
    @MacGuffin:

    You think a joke is inappropriate? Fine: Call the person on it. That`s what Collegebound did and he did it perfectly.

    Where you err is in making a snap judgment and proclaiming Gerry a racist, apparently in the belief that your knowledge of others is perfect. "But he`s declared himself a racist!" you say. Don`t be obtuse: That`s a rhetorical technique of Gerry`s that he often usess. It translates to, "I`m unable to reach you with rational argument, so I`m throwing in the towel just so we can move on. Fine. Have it your way. I`m ."

    To misread that statement of his and then describe him in later posts as "a self-professed racist" is juvenile.

    You`re so busy pinning dismissive labels onto everyone here at IAB (This one`s racist, this one`s stupid, this one`s a war criminal, this one`s a furry...) I imagine it won`t be long before you have no one left to interact with.
  100. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    @MacGuffin Is Gerry`s sarcasm flying over your head or are you just ignoring it?

    You know what, if he`s merely being sarcastic in making the fairly stark statement "I`m a racist", that`s fine. If *you* were merely being sarcastic when you stated earlier "I thought something really racist when I read this title. I feel bad now", that`s fine too. It`s even fine if you were being tongue in cheek when you stated that "Pretty sure Gerry has admitted to being a racist before".

    I just find it kind of weird that you, and Gerry, haven`t taken the opportunity to actually state that Gerry is not `really` racist (you both just said he was for `irony`). I also find it kind of weird that Gerry`s decided not to explain what`s so funny about Rodney King`s death "making his day", despite me inviting him to explain himself several times.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Personally, I don`t see the funny in celebrating someone`s death the day after they died. Maybe that`s just me.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    @MacGuffin I think you need to go re-read all of Gerry`s comments. My initial comment was merely that I thought I had seen Gerry admit to being racist in an earlier post.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Although I disagree with MacGuffin on many topics, and her style might be a tad bit aggressive, I do think her presance adds to the overall IAB experience. She certainly knows how to get things stirred up and to get people excited, talking, and moving! Like when someone $hits in a jacuzzi.
  104. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    @MacGuffin I think you need to go re-read all of Gerry`s comments. My initial comment was merely that I thought I had seen Gerry admit to being racist in an earlier post.

    Well, if I`ve got it wrong, then I`m genuinely sorry. FWIW, I took your and Gerry`s repeated "I`m a racist" comment at face value.

    I still think celebrating someone`s death (even in jest) is in poor taste, but I agree that`s not enough on its own to label someone racist (though, being who the subject was in this case, I think it was enough to ask for clarification of why the person in this case`s death would be reason for celebration).
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    >>>Although I disagree with MacGuffin on many topics, and her style might be a tad bit aggressive, I do think her presance adds to the overall IAB experience. She certainly knows how to get things stirred up and to get people excited, talking, and moving! Like when someone $hits in a jacuzzi.<<<


    Thanks, Gerry. And, FWIW, yes: I`m a MacGuffin*. A plot device that is insignificant in itself, but moves the story along to drama, or to humour. As long as my contributions aren`t boring, my work is done. ;-)






    * Good Lord; you didn`t think that was my real name, did you?
  106. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 18, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    Wow, this one seems to have legs.

    There seem to be a few people determined to portray MacGuffin as a pariah for pressing her point. I think she has asked a couple of questions and not been answered. Except with mere persiflage and transparent sophistry.

    Rodney King was known to the world in only one context:race. There was nothing else about his life which mattered except to those who knew him personally. So when someone takes the time to sit down at a keyboard and say how pleased they are that he drowned (which is clearly not `not mourning`) it`s reasonable to ask what motivated that pleasure.

    I didn`t mourn him. Why would I? I didn`t know him and as far as I know he didn`t do anything I`d see as admirable but that goes for most of the world. He seems to have been a petty scoundrel who was beaten to within an inch of his life and then given a second chance with a big compo cheque and a small minor celeb career. He blew that chance and now he`s dead; his stor
  107. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    To everyone except MacGuffin - I have my style of stimulating conversation, she has hers. It really does add something to IAB having her here.

    To MacGuffin - mark you calendar because that`s probably the last nice thing I`ll say ;-)
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    To MacGuffin - mark you calendar because that`s probably the last nice thing I`ll say

    OK, now we`ve got that sorted out, what the hell *did* you mean by saying Rodney King dying had made your day?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    Good grief, this will never end, will it?

    @LordJim: You`re misreading this thread if you think MacGuffin simply asked a few innocent questions. From the get-go, she made an accusation:

    It`s just Gerry being a closet racist, right-wing cretin again. It happens occasionally that his mask slips like that.

    *That`s* why this whole topic has blown up. (Sorry to bring that up again; MacGuff has already apologized for it.)

    Further, you`ve got it wrong regarding Rodney King. To anyone who follows news, at least in the U.S., he was *not* known only in the context of race. He was known as a never-do-well who got savagely beaten after resisting arrest and who, after receiving a $3.8M settlement, went on to commit multiple other offenses while struggling with alcoholism, including hitting his wife with his car and driving his car into a house.

    (Cont`d next post)
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    (Cont`d)

    It was a sad, mixed-up life that was always gathering media attention. It`s in this context that Gerry made light of King`s passing.

    Was the joke in bad taste? Yes, I think so. (De mortuis nil nisi bonum.) Did Gerry make the joke because he`s "a closet racist, right-wing cretin"? No.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    It`s in this context that Gerry made light of King`s passing.

    I must say, squirrelz, I`m really impressed at how you can step inside Gerry`s mind, and express his thoughts for him. It`s almost as if you`re projecting your own views onto him.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Squrlz4Sale

    My post got cut off before I finished (even though it was only 998 characters, c`mon). I went on to say, yes he wasted his second chance but why did he bring out eultations.

    I`m not talking about Gerry here, he made what he considered to be an edgy, callous comment based on a Heinein quote (who, I would guess, was making a general witticism rather than aiming at at someone who had just died. I`d think less of him if it were the latter, wouldnt you?) and was backfooted when called on it. but you must know that there is a lot of internet traffic exulting in this death and very little is ironic or even slightly ambiguous.

    I`m not an American, I`ve only even visited a few times (all of which were lovely) so I admit I don`t know how he is perceived over there. But are you seriously telling me that Rodney King (as a `brand` as it were) is not a race issue?
  113. Profile photo of Genocyde
    Genocyde Male 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    .: But are you seriously telling me that Rodney King (as a `brand` as it were) is not a race issue?:.

    It`s not a race issue at all. At the time of that video, King was strung out on PCP and look at the beating he took and kept going. This man had an extensive arrest sheet even well after this incident as Squrlz4Sale was right to point out.

    Still, the L.A.P.D.`s actions were inexcusable for one reason. The only thing the police did not do and the one thing they should have done was issue clear, verbal commands to King to get on the ground, place his hands on the car or whatever it was they wanted him to do. Had that happened, King never once would have won that lawsuit and the officers involved may have been cleared. I can still see a few examples of excessive force being applied in this video, coming from a former law enforcement background, the use of force continuum was obviously ignored in some areas but race had nothing to do with that.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    @LordJim: You mischaracterized MacGuffin`s contribution to this thread as simply an asker of questions. My quote shows she clearly was not, but you won`t concede the point. OK, moving on.

    In your original post, you made the bold statement that "Rodney King was known to the world in only one context: race." That`s nonsense, and I tried to give you some insight into the mind of Americans who`ve been hearing about Rodney King`s intoxicated escapades for over 20 years. (Story after story: "Rodney King is back in the news again....") I did not, and am not, suggesting that Rodney King`s name isn`t a touchstone in American race relations. I`m simply trying to explain that he`s not a one-dimensional symbol of black oppression as some Europeans seem to view him.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    Squrlz4Sale

    continued.

    I really don`t buy the idea that if you say anything right of centre or offend the `libretards` you are pilloried and crucified as a racist. On I-A-B?

    Check out any post showing people being stupid or vicious or degenerate. If they are white every post will focus on their stupidity etc. If they are black a significant proportion will be along the lines of `Why am I not surprised they are black?` and quite often jocularly advocating killing people.
    (I exclude posts like `White Boy Problems.`)

    Is that no more than assuming all asian people are japanese and therefore are robo-fetishists? Or is it something that should be called? Or indeed should we object to japanese robo-fetishism stereotypes?

    To the last question, obviously no. But there is a small but ugly racist current everywhere and it`s up to the individual when they think it`s worth tapping someone on the shoulder and making their point.

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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    OK, we`re cross-posting now. Bed time. I`d be interested in continuing this discussion later.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 2:57 pm

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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    June 18, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    @MacGuff: Yeah, I see Gerry every other weekend at our local KKK rallies. ~rolls eyes~

    Do you have *any* idea of what a loose cannon you are? You`re now posting KKK cartoons directed at Gerry, a gay man distinguished on here for always judging people by character and not label, and myself, probably the farthest-left progressive American on the website.

    But, yeah, whatever. We`re the enemy, MacGuff.
  119. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    You`re now posting KKK cartoons directed at Gerry, a gay man distinguished on here for always judging people by character and not label, and myself, probably the farthest-left progressive American on the website.

    Have you any idea how ridiculous that sounds, sqrlz? You were criticising me for your perception that I judge people a few posts back, and now that`s the very quality you`re holding up up as an admirable example of how Gerry behaves?.....because he`s "always judging people by character".

    I don`t happen to think you`re right in either case: sure, I disagree with people, but I generally have independent facts to back up my beliefs. Gerry does too - so what?

    And as for the caroon I posted about provoking criticism, and then acting shocked when it gets the reaction you`re looking for........I guess that making risque jokes is only acceptable in sqrlzworld when Gerry does that too?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 18, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    OK, we`re cross-posting now. Bed time. I`d be interested in continuing this discussion later.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    "OK, now we`ve got that sorted out, what the hell *did* you mean by saying Rodney King dying had made your day?"
    It`s kind of obvious and sort of emberassing for you that I have to explain it, but sometimes you see the name of someone you dislike. The old "worlds better off without him" sentiment.

    "squirrelz, I`m really impressed at how you can step inside Gerry`s mind, and express his thoughts for him."
    There is no squrlz. There is only a furry hand puppet, my alter ego. Didn`t you know my hand was up his butt?

    "It`s almost as if you`re projecting your own views onto him"
    And there you go, back to the front lawn of your glass house. Who was it who first brought up the whole race thing? I believe it was you when you projected your own perceptions onto me and called me a "closet racist, right-wing cretin".

    For the record, I`m NOT a cretin!
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    @MacGuff: I know it`s hard for you to follow these points, but try.

    (1) I didn`t criticize you for "judging" people (although that`s a clever attempt at intellectual dishonesty on your part). As you well know, what I criticized you for is "making a snap judgment and proclaiming Gerry a racist." I also criticized you for "pinning dismissive labels onto everyone here at IAB (This one`s racist, this one`s stupid, this one`s a war criminal, this one`s a furry...)." Those points of mine I stand by as 100% accurate.

    (2) You are also intellectually dishonest in characterizing your cartoon as being "about provoking criticism, and then acting shocked when it gets the reaction you`re looking for." Funny how you left out the whole KKK outfit. The point of your cartoon, as you well know, is that it`s disingenuous to deny racism when one is acting like a racist. If you really think Gerry and I are racists, see point #1.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    For the record, I`m NOT a cretin!

    Are you being ironic again?


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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    I don`t think you`re a racist, sqrlz, and haven`t alleged any such thing. I do think, however, that you have a very selective attention when judging others. You perceive me as "pinning dismissive labels onto everyone here at IAB", whilst you attribute the quality of "always judging people by character" to Gerry. Have you noticed that those are one in the same thing? It`s only your perception of the parties involved and your interpretation of their motivations that differ.

    As for the posibility of Gerry being a racist. I honestly don`t know if he is or not, and I shouldn`t have asserted that he was until I knew more about his motivations in making the joke he did.

    Which brings me to:

    ...
  125. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    Also for the record: I don`t want anyone`s hand up my butt! O.O

  126. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    It`s kind of obvious and sort of emberassing for you that I have to explain it, but sometimes you see the name of someone you dislike. The old "worlds better off without him" sentiment.

    Yes, I got that. My question was why, specifically, are you glad he is dead?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    Rescued by Page 2.......I never argue into Page 2.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Do I have to explain the phrase "front lawn of your glass house"?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    [quote">"I got that. My question was why, specifically" [/quote">

    I answered that early on in this endless thread
    Currently Page 4 @ the bottom
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    my quotes broke...darn
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @ Squrlz - how do you feel about just a finger?



    Come on! Just 1 finger... just the tip.
    To see how it feels.
  132. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    @MacGuff: You`re not getting the difference between judgments and snap judgments. I thought I explained that last post, but I guess not. So here goes:

    When I engage with people on here, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt. Even when debating people on the exact opposite of the political spectrum, I try to understand where they`re coming from and respond to their points seriously. Eventually, I get a sense of who they are, but the internet being what it is, I always hold out the possibility that I could be wrong.

    You, on the other hand, seem to have a hair-trigger when it comes to making snap judgments. Case in point: Your declaration that every American who has served in Iraq is "a war criminal." Now maybe you`re comfortable about making sweeping declarations like that about a million people (to date), but I`m not.
  133. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    @Gerry: No! ~shudders~
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Damn! Squrl joke pushed my MacGuffin response link to page 5

    "As for Rodney King, he was a waste of space and air, and the world will turn easier without his weight dragging it down. Not because he was black. Not because he deserved that beating {he didn`t} but because of his behavior and choices leading up to the beating and his behavior and choices after it. He has in all ways been a giant douche bag and I`m not shedding a single tear over his departure from this life"
    That`s why I don`t like him.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    Hey guys, I`m back! I`ve been having diarrhea all day, otherwise I would have tried to contribute to the conversation.

    Anyways, MacGuffin, if you still even care, I believe Gerry was declaring himself a racist by the standards of a lot of sensationalists on this website. He wasn`t claiming that he hates anyone based solely on race.
  136. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    ~pounds a wooden stake through the heart of this thread to ensure that it`s dead~

    Whew. That was horrible.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 12:04 am
    Now, if Barbra Streisand died I`d be prostrate with grief.
    Seriously, Gerry? Aside from her being a rather nasty person, I always thought she sounded like a fire engine with a wah-wah pedal.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36182 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 7:33 am

    @ OldOllie
  139. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    ~pounds a wooden stake through the heart of this thread to ensure that it`s dead~

    Whew. That was horrible.

    Dum-de-dum-de-dum-de.......vampire MacGuffin rises from the ashes. Aren`t you sorry you burned all those crosses now, bitches? :-P



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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 7:24 pm

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