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41 Responses to Rich AZ. Guy Kills Himself In Court After Verdict

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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18502 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Link: Rich AZ. Guy Kills Himself In Court After Verdict - Don`t worry, no gore. He swallowed a pill, drank water and that was it. He was given 16 years for arson.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
    3283 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    YA, MAN drat THE SYSTEM!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    GOOD!
    They should give all convicted scumbags a few little pills and a cup of water. Let them choose death or prison, it`s probably a kinder choice than they gave their victems...

    Was this the guy who burned his house while the wife & two kids were inside? The article says he was wearing scuba gear as he climbed out of the burning house...
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    smaus Male 30-39
    715 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    more criminals should follow his lead
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2581 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Awwww my mansion is too expensive! Time to commit suicide.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 29, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Maybe he doesn`t like wearing pink?
    This is a photo of the chain gang from Maricopa County.

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    slightlys Male 18-29
    92 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Cyanide pill.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    June 29, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    If he did poison himself, he at least could have saved the expense of a trial and done it shortly after his arrest... Some people just have no sense of timing.
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
    458 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    You would think security would watch people during the verdict.

    My question is, why in the heck would you burn a place down. Ok, you cant afford it. Your bankrupt. Fine. Other than the building what would he lose that would be so important that someone would kill themselves?
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
    5316 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    20 years for burning down your house? were people inside?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 29, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    @ScottSerious

    Yes his wife and children.

    How the hell do you even find a pill that does that?
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    pomokey Male 18-29
    95 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    16 years for burning down his own house... Seems a bit harsh. He was the only one in the home at the time.

    Article from 2009
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    Byfield Male 18-29
    464 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Justice happened- he was found guilty, and effectively gave himself the death penalty. It wasted a trial, but it saved 16 years of prison care.
    Also, he suffered. He killed himself, thats how badly he had suffered
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    lee-schizo Female 18-29
    296 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    I`m betting he took potassium cyanide he went down pretty quickly.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 29, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    @pomokey

    I thought it said his wife and kids were in there?
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    "16 years for burning down his own house... Seems a bit harsh"

    The video said he burned it down because he couldn`t pay the mortgage. It was the bank`s house, not his.

    Furthermore, he endangered the firefighters. If one was injured or even died, he could have faced murder charges.

    It`s not quite the same as taking a sledgehammer to a car you already own cuz you`re pissed....
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    June 29, 2012 at 4:55 pm
    Rape a person- 3 to 8 years; Kill a person- generally about 10 years. Burn down your house that`s been unfairly(More than likely) repossessed- 16 years.
    Priorities, we haz `em.
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    dirtysteve00 Male 30-39
    373 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    There seems to be some confusion on here, the article linked seems to say he was the only one home at the time, whereas others are saying his family was there.

    Which is it?
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    onefallswoop Male 30-39
    40 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm
    IN THE VID, the jury said that he was guilty of burning down an occupied structure. Whats the goddamm confusion?
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    June 29, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    Where are all these rumors about his wife and kid coming from? The news said he was alone.

    "Michael J. Marin committed arson of an occupied structure by starting multiple fires inside his home. Michael was the only person home at the time of this fire and escaped using a portable ladder from the second-story balcony while wearing a diving mask, buoyancy compensator, and breathing air from a scuba tank."

    No wife or kid.


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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    "IN THE VID, the jury said that he was guilty of burning down an occupied structure. Whats the goddamm confusion?"

    It`s quite clear it was occupied, because they said he was in the house at the time that he set fire to the house. Occupied structure doesn`t have to mean anyone besides the fire starter was in the house.
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    Tinrac Male 18-29
    45 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    >CaptKangaroo
    I`m not an American, so can`t say for sure. But seems to me that that`s exactly how American priorities go right now - financial worth first, moral worth second. Multimillion mansion is probably a lot more worth to the bank than a dead guy (unless he`s rich). *By America I`m talking about the system, not the individuals*
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
    3061 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Did he die from arsenic?
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4345 posts
    June 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm
    cyanide?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 12:51 am
    Thanks for saving the taxpayers some cash dude. Preci.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 6:27 am
    The predominant lack of sympathy for someone that was clearly desperate in this thread is quite telling. If you ever wonder what`s at the root of America`s problems, where nobody seems to give a damn about anyone else, and everyone has the idea that other people don`t care about society in general as much as they do, have a look in the mirror: the problem is you.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 7:25 am
    @dirtysteve, @macgovern (and me too):

    ...a charge of committing arson of an occupied (by him) structure,

    From @pomokey`s link! It seems that he was alone, BUT it`s still "occupied" by someone, so he got the book thrown at him!

    @richanddead: My bad! I confused this with another case where the wife & kids were badly burned. He was fine (of course). It happened around 3 years ago too, and I recall reading about THIS case at the time. The scuba gear? Unforgettable!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 8:21 am
    It`s a convicted felon MacGuffin.

    drat him. Waste of space.

    You`re not trying too hard to shake that curmudgeon stigma are you?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 9:40 am
    My bad! I confused this with another case where the wife & kids were badly burned.

    How very unusual, 5cats. It`s not like the opinions you express in every second post on here are based on "facts" that, whilst you hold them to be true with the fervour of a zealot, are demonstrably false when you apply even a tiny little bit of effort trying to verify them. I`m surprised that the noise of reality whizzing by six inches above your head hasn`t driven you deaf by now.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 9:40 am
    It`s a convicted felon MacGuffin.

    drat him. Waste of space.

    Of course. The "he`s a convict" defence for your failings as a human being. Never mind the fact that your country imprisons more of its citizens for huge chunks of their lives for frankly trivial offences than any other nation on earth. And never mind that this particular "convict" was sent down by the kangaroo court and prison system that`s recognised world-over as being the worst of the worst amongst that corrupt system.

    "He`s a convict" = "I`m justified in my two minutes hate". Even if I`m not personally a victim. Even if nobody was a victim.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 9:40 am
    You`re a joke, aj. And, as I said, if you want to see what`s wrong with America you need only look in a mirror. It`s not GW Bush`s fault, it`s not Barry`s : it`s people like you, who don`t give a damn about anyone, and trot out your hatred for your fellow man at the drop of a hat, based on the flimsiest of pretexts.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Thanks for your concern @MacGuffin, but I think you`ve confused IAB with Mensa or something. I wasn`t aware that PHDs were required to post, OR that everyting on the interwebs needed to be fact-checked first!

    Of course YOU never make mistakes, we should all learn from your fine example.

    ...the noise of reality...
    Excuse me? Reality makes noise? You have a factual link for that? What sort of `reality` are you refering to? Subjective? Objective? /sarc

    Now go look at Puffins! Chill out ffs!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Of course YOU never make mistakes, we should all learn from your fine example.

    Ah, the next refuge of the ignorant: looking outward, concluding that others must behave as badly as you (no verifiable evidence required for that belief once again of course), and deciding that means your own ignorance must therefore be perfectly acceptable.

    I only mention your regular tendency to describe your (unfounded) beliefs as facts, 5Cats, because you literally do it in every other post. It`s not an occasional trait. It`s not something you`ve done once or twice. It`s your whole persona on here. You *want* something to be true, so you state that it *is* true, and you never ever bother to check your facts. This might surprise you, but most other people, we don`t go about life that way: reality is a concrete concept for most of us, and facts are based on more than mere opinions.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 11:23 am
    "My bad! I confused this with another case where the wife & kids were badly burned."

    Holy crap 5Cats admitted he was wrong about something. Is this bizarro day? Seriously, a little respect has been gained back.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    The whole "I`m better than everybody" act is getting old Guff.

    You`re Scottish ffs.
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    I-Am-Goatse Male 18-29
    165 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    Guffin = new Leesah?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    New Leesah without the hotness.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    The whole "I`m better than everybody" act is getting old Guff.

    You`re Scottish ffs.

    I told you. Mirror. Look in it. Whether I`m a good person or not bears no significance to what you`ll see looking back at you there.
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    Theyoyoguy Male 18-29
    462 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    Cause of death? Ironically enough, Arson








    ic
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
    1478 posts
    June 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    I gotta say, MacGuffin, you`ve been more crotchety lately than usual.

    As for the video... I understand, sometimes, the "if I can`t have it, no one else can" feelings, but wow.. to just, off yourself like that. Fascinating.
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    inaria Female 18-29
    1515 posts
    July 3, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    This is so sad >.< An obviously desperate man to have burned the house down only to off himself when found guilty of his crime. An elaborate suicide plan to say the least. I wonder what substance he used to die so quickly?

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