Real Ancient Technology Found In Peru

Submitted by: Phanthom_ 5 years ago in Weird

I am not saying it was aliens, but just take a look and come up with your own conclusion...
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Male 3,231
look, a highly developed culture would have to create a drainage system for all those sacrifices
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Male 5
<3 dolemite
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Male 244
wow someone invented a drill and a chisel good job dead people
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Male 27
It was clearly cut by Occam`s Razor.
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Male 916
steam channels.
probably used to open huge brass, golden or stone doors on a temple "by the breath of the gods".

steam power has come and gone a great many times over the millenia and has oft been used to power immense machines or as a means towards some form of trickery.
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Male 363
maybe the holes were there to move water, not a sewer system necessarily, but somewhat like an irrigation setup or even from home to home. Just a possibility.
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Male 7,123
The technology existed, it was was widespread, it was simple in principle and we know how it worked. The Incans seem to have been very good at it, which is mildly interesting but nothing more.
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Male 12,365
[quote]1450 would be before the introduction of European technology.[/quote]

You`re joking, right?
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Male 12,365
[quote">Tried to put a link here for demo , unfortunately any word longer than 14 characters will not be accepted , therefore "ancient egyptian hole drilling" will have to do[/quote">

You can insert a link with an URL longer than 14 chracters by clicking on the `Link` button next to the editing window.

Video showing ancient Egyptian drilling
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Male 527
And, once again, some of you I-A-B`ers are missing the point. Making holes in rocks isn`t new or interesting. Making stone walls isn`t new or interesting. What is interesting is the accuracy to which these blocks were manufactured in order to ensure that they fit so close together, you cannot insert a knife blade. Incan Architecture Here is described a scribing and coping method for fitting stones together. While likely, scribing and coping usually results in a less than ideal fit. Anyone who`s put up drywall or put in flooring can tell you that. And the Incans were doing that with stone with near perfect results? As for the holes, we are working under the assumption that a rod is put in after the stone is placed in order to increase the wall`s strength. If that is the case, the holes must be placed accurately, repeatably, and the diameter must be the same rega
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Male 527
@bdowner, there`s a button on the right that says "link". Use that.
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Male 593
The Egyptians did the same thing , slow process , but works well. Tried to put a link here for demo , unfortunately any word longer than 14 characters will not be accepted , therefore "ancient egyptian hole drilling" will have to do
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Male 1,360
ancient liquid house cooling system?
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Male 2,390
wow.. who doesn`t know what a Lego is these days?
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Male 2,737
Been to Peru twice. Callahuanca is gorgeous.
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Male 40,416
[quote]I`m off to summon Cthulhu.[/quote]

@DavyMid FINALLY puts those science degrees to good use!
Oh wait... aAAAHHHHH!!!

@LazyMe: The whole CITY is built with those kind of rocks! Not neccessarily the `smooth-hole` one but the rest of them were all over the place in the video! Unless someone faked the whole city... in 1600... ;-)

@Angilion is correct (as usual) NO carbon dating for rocks! If there were some plant matter stuck to it MAYBE... but it wouldn`t be considered proof of age.

And anything "pre-Columbian" is considered "primative" for some reason, like those Spaniards were "civilized" or something, eh?
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Male 4,793
It looks like a locking door. like a bank vault door, where rods slide into the wall.
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Male 70
I don`t wish to be mean but I just have to say, stupid people will always underestimate what smart people are capable of, no matter what time period they come from. They get it set in their heads that because they can`t do something, no one can. It`s like they are willfully trying to deny that people smarter than them exist(ed).
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Male 468
Ancient Whack a Mole!
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Male 12,138
drat this debate. I`m off to summon Cthulhu.
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Male 1,810
So, should I be wearing a tinfoil hat when I come on I-A-B ??
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Male 314
1450 would be before the introduction of European technology.
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Male 12,365
Several people seem to be describing ~1450 as "ancient".

~1450 is recent!
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Male 10,440
Say it with me... hoax.

... a poor one at that.

... it looks like these blocks were taken straight from a movie set... or modern construction site.
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Male 12,365
[quote]what if someone drilled a new hole in an old rock?
the carbon dating of the rock would indicate ancient origins but the tech would still be new tech[/quote]

Your point is solid but your arguments in favour of it aren`t:

1) You can`t usually carbon date rock. Carbon dating only works for organic material that was alive relatively recently (theoretically ~50,000 years but almost always very much less in practice).

2) Dating a rock (which can be done with different methods) will usually tell you when the rock was formed, if it`s done right. It won`t tell you when it was worked, so the results will usually run into millons, even billions, of years.

But I agree with your point. It`s hard to date when stone was worked at the best of times, so it`s certainly possible for someone to deliberately obscure the dating by reworking it.
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Male 700
Mind blowing, It was not
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Male 4,099
Hannibal`s men also made holes like these in the Alps. They would fill it with water and oil, cork it with clay, pitch, or resin. Then they would set the rock on fire. The water/oil expanded and would break the rock then his men and elephants would cart it off. He did it to open the road and to minimize falling casualties.

But yea, making a hole, even through rock is nothing new for mankind.
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Male 4,099
The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Indians, Native Americans and even the builders of stone hedge were all capable of doing this. It`s done just as Draculya said. You start a fire on the top heat the rock, chip it a little, fill the chipped area with a coarse sand, then put a big wooden stick with a heavy weight on the top, tie two ropes around it and just rotate the pole continually. Two people can take a day to a few months to accomplished this depending on the rock.

People normally make holes like this for structural support, filling the voids with usually a wooden or metal pole. This may explain the vertical scratches. The many holes and different configurations of blocks most likely mean they were holding something unwieldy like a statue, a flood gate, or a crane.
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Male 701
They should have used a Flesh-Light for this
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Male 15,190
The hole is bored with abrasive sand. The scoring is from longitudinal reaming caused most likely in use or fitting.
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Male 527
@5Cats & Crabes, I was about to suggest the stones were cast as well. It would explain the amazing repeatability of the stone shapes and sizes, and the drag marks in the holes. Then when you go to fit everything together, put a layer of mortar between the blocks, stick a rod through the holes to increase the strength, and call it a day.
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Male 527
Here`s what gets me: those joints between stones were really REALLY good. This would lead me to believe that the joining sides had to be "polished" (not smooth like marble or granite, but something to ensure that it was flat). This had to be done for all sides. This would indicate a precise, repeatable, divisible measurement system that could be used by multiple people. It would also mean knowledge of squares (and that could mean there`s a Incan version of the Pythagorean Theorem floating around there somewhere). The holes are something else, though. I`m pretty certain those types of groves are made when a non-rotating element (like a rod) slides through. So, maybe the rod goes through after the hole is drilled. The engineering tech in this stuff is nothing short of amazing.
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Male 40,416
@Musuko: #1 Yes they`re from Peru. #2 Yes they`re ancient, the whole city is built with these sorts of stones! In 1459 AD. #3 I think it`s entirely possible `ancient primatives` could have made them. See below!

[quote] maybe this is not solid rock but some kind of concrete, theres a theory saying they use concrete on the pyramid of Egypt too.[/quote]
@Crabes: I`ve heard that theory too, by a Canadian iirc, and it`s a GOOD theory! There`s not OPNE picture of them moving huge blocks, but hundreds of them carrying stones up there...

These could have been `cast` with their holes in them, and the scrapes are from rods pushed in and out to move them around... more likely than Aliens!

Romans had concrete, better than modern stuff actually! That was 1500 years before the Mahcu Picchu site.
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Male 40,416
Those blocks were cut by MASTER craftsmen! As good as any the world has ever seen! But the fancy cutting isn`t evidence of aliens, just really REALLY good stonemasons.

They made those "template blocks" at the beginning so they could essentially cut exact copies like Lego!

Those holes are very mysterious!! What on Earth could their purpose be? Can`t be ornamental, most are hidden inside the construction. And they`re A LOT of work to make!

Ropes? Whispering tubes? Water pipes? Highly mysterious.
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Male 15,510

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Female 734
what if someone drilled a new hole in an old rock?
the carbon dating of the rock would indicate ancient origins but the tech would still be new tech
or how about a bow drill?
any way just because you don`t know what it is for doesn`t mean its made by aliens, other wise Home Depot and Pep Boys are full of alien products
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Female 373
Aliens traveled all the way here to drill holes into a rock. Sounds legit.
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Male 39,619

We don`t know how they did it, and I certainly couldn`t do it, therefore it must be aliens. Only a fool could deny it. Men expected to be able to build things on their own and drill holes!? MADNESS!
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Male 12,365
It`s very easy to overlook the fact that primitive technology doesn`t mean primitive people. There were people every bit as intelligent and innovative as, for example Einstein or Hawking. There was a much higher proportion of people with a great deal of skill in working materials, because there had to be.

In technologically and economically advanced countries, we`re disconnected from skilled, organised manual work. It`s alien to us, so it`s very easy to ascribe it to aliens or gods (or both) rather than human ingenuity, creativity and skill.

It really shouldn`t be because there are detailed records from some areas showing exactly how various startling things were achieved with minimal technology and human brilliance. Measuring the size of the world with two sticks. Measuring the energy output of the sun with a bucket of water. Roman roads (sticks, string, lumps of metal and simple hand tools). Etc, etc.
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Male 171
The size of those holes seem to be roughly the size of a large cookie.
So it seems obvious, that this is irrefutable proof of the existence of the cookie monster, and the fact that the cookie monster time traveled to stroe cookies in ancient stones, right after creating the universe.

Is that how it works?
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Male 1,284
And i have an explanation for all this, maybe this is not solid rock but some kind of concrete, theres a theory saying they use concrete on the pyramid of Egypt too.

aliens and unexplained architecture is a good seller for Peru tourism
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Male 171
Im puzzled. I thought that when you didnt know how something was created, or how it worked, then the reasonable thing to do was to claim that a deity did it, and worship that deity forever.
And now aliens?
If we come across another thing that we cant explain yet with today`s science, how do we know if we should claim it proves the existence of god, or of aliens? And can any imaginary being claim credit?
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Male 2,850
As always with these sorts of things, there are a number of points of the story where it could fall down:
1: Were they confirmed found in Peru? (whole story could be fake).
2: Are they confirmed ancient? (could be modern hoaxes).
3: If they are ancient, could ancient man have done it? (usually, the answer is yes; we give them way less credit than they deserve).

On point 3: why assume that the method we think it was done is the way it actually was done? Why do we assume a high speed drill? Why not a slow hand-powered drill (or other method) and some very, VERY patient ancients?

To quote Dave Lister, when asked how he thought the pyramids were made without the help of advanced alien technology: They had massive whips, Rimmer. Massive, massive whips.
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Male 3,445
I`m not sure why people are surprised when they find this sort of stuff. Did you know what aluminum was actually created in ancient Rome? A smithy approached the emperor Tiberius with a wonder metal he`d created. Instead of paying the man for the technology, Tiberius had him beheaded. The reason was that Tiberius held massive gold and silver reserves, and he was afraid that aluminum would lower the value of his fortune. After that, the process for creating aluminum wasn`t discovered again until the 1800s.
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Male 881
[quote]I use a diamond bore for marble installation and the cuts here are definitely a high speed rotary bit. Absolutely beyond the technology as defined for this time, for ANY people. Wow. I guess somebody had to pay a bit extra for that job.[/quote]
Yeah, no possible way that smart and creative ancient people who had large workforces and decades of time and access to diamonds could have possibly done what you do in an afternoon with a diamond bore. This you know by your extensive knowledge of the technology of the time and your expert opinion from your close examination of the...video.
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Male 2,144
I use a diamond bore for marble installation and the cuts here are definitely a high speed rotary bit. Absolutely beyond the technology as defined for this time, for ANY people. Wow. I guess somebody had to pay a bit extra for that job.
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Male 1,625
@FoolsPrussia: love it
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Male 1,252
I think its its thoroughly underestimated how much time a ma nhas to create when mainstream media and modern technology is removed. the stone shaping I have no doubt was done egyption style and immersed and then cut to water level to create perfect seams and foundations. As for the holes, well they were capable of metal work which explains a lot, the holesmost reasonable answer would be air passages for torch sconces, design seems to support that theory. They werent like demi gods of alien ingenuity but if im going to move a 5000 lb drating rock lets do it right the first time lol
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Female 91
Ok... someone`s been watching Prometheus too many times.
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Male 7,123
From another galaxy they came... skilled stonemasons. Thanks guys, but oouldn`t you have just gone straight to the good stuff?
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Male 1,920
I don`t think this takes alien level technology, but it really is an engineering feat nonetheless. Drilling stone is not like drilling wood. Maybe that is some pretty soft stone, but if you were going to do it today you would use a carbide or diamond core drill bit and a heavy drill. It`s hard to tell exactly how big it is, but it appears to be between 1" and 2" in diameter, which would take an equivalent diameter drill. Also just that block appears to be several feet in length, so there was a lot of effort put into making that hole. The big question would be if they didn`t have carbide or diamond drills, then what did they use? and how was it powered?

@Kain1 "Also, i doubt he`s an expert in tool markings."
The man taking the video said he was an engineer, and having been a machinist myself, I`d say that was machined with some kind of tool that left marks. How do you think it got there?
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Male 1
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Male 881
He doesn`t know how they did it, so it must be the most extreme and unlikely explanation.

Why don`t ancient people ever get credit for being smart and creative?
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Male 1,471
All hail perfectionism.. Did it take a long time?, probably.. But it is in no way ahead of their technology..

Also, i doubt he`s an expert in tool markings.. "high speed rotary, or vibrational tool" my ass..
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Male 3,327
I`m guessing that they used the groves and what not to mold molten medal (without knowing if they had metal crafting skills). I would think that the scoring would be from a metal pole being pushed through, not from cutting the hole.
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Male 762
I hate it when people try to lend credit to their batpoo crazy ideas by calling some jagged ass edge a "perfect circle." A perfect circle doesn`t exist in reality, it is a mathematical model. So no, the fact that you found a hole drilled in a stone is evidence of nothing other than a hole in a stone.
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Male 5,148
Interesting!
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Male 3,425
I don`t think it`s entirely implausible to think civilisations like this had tools capable of doing this, they were obviously ahead of their time but it`s not exactly a computer.
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Male 3,631

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Male 646
Why would anyone even suppose aliens did this? Humans have probably had the same average intelligence for tens of thousands of years, and definitely 500 years ago when these cities were built in Peru.
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Male 707
posts like this are the reason i keep coming back to IAB
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Male 3,445
Anyone who has seen Raiders of the Lost Ark knows that the darts come out of those holes.
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Female 64
Link: Real Ancient Technology Found In Peru [Rate Link] - I am not saying it was aliens, but just take a look and come up with your own conclusion...
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