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    haxxorz Male 13-17
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:35 am
    Link: PETA Girls Get Nude In Public For Something - The protest had something to do with the amount of water it takes to raise a pound of beef. Only men were interested.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:45 am
    Well, PeTA does seem to know that sex sells, but I`d like to see a source on their claim that it takes over 2000 gallons of water to make 1 lb. of meat. The only thing that would make this more representative of PeTA is if they were using the shower water to drown animals from their HQ.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:48 am

    A: How much water would it take to put out the fire as PeTA headquarters burned?
    A: Why would you want to put out the fire?
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    beternal Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:52 am
    hmmm, I wonder if they wear fur ;-)
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:56 am
    *Puts down his bacon roll*

    What`s all this about then?
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    NOCASH Male 18-29
    423 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 8:07 am
    Gerry, you labeled both of your questions as answers even though they are questions. My mind is blown.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:09 am
    Yeah, let me guess: this was a guy`s idea, right?
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:22 am
    @NOCASH - I think he confused himself.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:25 am

    @ NOCASH - it`s early, gimmie a break
  10. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:25 am
    @patch: Here is a link about meat production and water usage: Link

    I`m vegan and I really dislike PETA, but you can clearly see that meat, beef in particular, are a staggering waste of water resources.

    Rather than listening to the PETA nuts, I suggest you listen to this guy instead because he`s more thoughtful and articulate in making the argument: Philip Wollen
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:29 am
    @FP: Interesting, but that link also says that depending on rainfall virtual water use for food crops and livestock would be the same. Also, food crops can`t grow just anywhere, and in dry climates livestock are the best option.

    "In the US, withdrawn surface water and groundwater use for crop irrigation exceeds that for livestock by about a ratio of 60:1"
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:32 am
    @patch: If you want to read something more in depth, you can read the U.N. report called Livestock`s Long Shadow. I know you`re a scientist, so I trust that you might be interested in something that technical.

    There really are a lot of issues going into meat production just beyond the animal right issues. Another big problem is that poor countries, rather than feeding their own people, actually export their grain to rich countries like the USA so that we can feed it to livestock.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:40 am
    I`m going vegan. I`ll sponsor a Chinese prison not to feed one of their inmates with meat for a dollar a week*. Then I can eat all the veal and fois gras I want. If I sponsor two, I`ll be meat negative. It`s like carbon trading, but for vegans.

    *less paypal fees, probably.
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    tehbionic Female 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:59 am
    How can I learn to be cool like you guys and care about arguing with someone over comments on pictures on the internet? :(
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:00 am
    It`s always this `zero sum` game with these types, saying it`s a `waste of water`. The water is NOT lost, ever. Do I need to point out the laws of conservation of matter, again, to the `green` hippies?

    Water remains water regardless if it`s watering crops or cows. It all ends up right back into the water cycle eventually. The farms, I know of, pump their own water from the ground, there is no way they could afford to pay city water prices. In turn most of that water returns to the water table after the cows urinate, same with humans.

    I swear, the more removed people get from farms, ranches and nature in general, it seems the more ignorant they get about how their food is made.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:04 am
    @FP: I did a quick scan of the article, I don`t have time to read the whole thing. Looks like livestock do require lots of water, however agricultural production of crops uses the most water by far. In the US agriculture uses 87% of fresh water consumed Link.
    So while livestock uses a substantial amount of water, so does crop agriculture. Add to that the inability to grow crops in many places and eliminating meat production is not feasible or possible.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 9:11 am
    How can I learn to be cool like you guys and care about arguing with someone over comments on pictures on the internet? :(
    Easy-peasy.
    Step 1: Press caps lock. Leave this on.
    Step 2: go into a forum and make snide comments (you`ve got this one down already, but you really should have had caps lock on).
    Step 3: Change your profile pic to a bridge.

    This way we can all recognize you for the troll you are. Bonne chance!
  18. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:28 am
    @patch: I imagine their definition of agriculture includes animal rearing.

    @Crakrjak: In many countries, the only real source of water year round is found from the underground aquifers. In places such as India and Iran, the aquifers are rapidly disappearing. A large part of this is due to the population boom and increasing drought, but you have to consider the way agriculture is practiced in order to meet the population boom as a significant factor in the reduction of the water table.

    The future of agriculture, particularly to feed the constantly growing population centers, is in vertical farming. This will help alleviate land usage for crops, and soil issues, as well as prevent more deforestation. I suggest people read Peter Diamandis` recent book on how to meet the population boom, called "Abundance."
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:29 am
    @FP: The link I gave you also said that livestock only account for 1.3% of water used in agriculture.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:42 am
    @patch: Hmm...I don`t see that in the preview. I must be missing it. That report is 15 years old, though.

    Another thing about the water crisis. It`s funny that anyone would say that water is a renewable resource. It is in a technical way, but 1 in 6 people worldwide presently have no access to clean drinking water.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 10:04 am
    @FP: Sorry, sometimes I forget that I have journal licenses so I can read the whole thing but you may not. The report is a little old, so the numbers will likely have changed somewhat, but I`m pretty sure the industry hasn`t changed its practices very considerably since then.

    The people suffering from the most lack of water are Africans and those in the middle east. They can`t really grow crops there very well, only in specific areas.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Sure way to get that message across.

    "Showering is good for you."
  23. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 10:15 am
    @patch: Actually, Africa has a lot of arable land. Article

    There are lots of other reasons for famine in Africa.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 10:29 am
    @FP: They may have arable land, but what crops can they actually grow on it besides fruit? Also the input of $ needed to use that land and upgrade existing farms is not likely to be given, and they have big problems there with lack of water. Meat is essential, not just for nutrition but for the world economy. Africa lacks the infrastructure to take advantage of their land, and money isn`t flowing in to fix that problem.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Can we all just agree that Peta is a bunch of idiots? Surely that`s something that both Markust and 5cats can agree on.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 10:57 am
    ...They do realize that water doesn`t just disappear after you use it, right? You know, water cycle and whatnot?
  27. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    June 19, 2012 at 11:13 am
    @patch: That article goes into a lot of Africa`s agricultural problems, and how to fix them. Sure, they can grow more than just fruit. Yams are a staple food in much of Africa, for instance. One of the reasons that Africa has famine is actually the exploitation of globalization. In the 80s, Ethiopia experienced a famine not because they couldn`t produce food, but because they exported grain to Europe to pay large debts. Here`s an article about it.

    I`m more realistic than, say, someone from PETA. I realize that meat production is something that will have to be phased down gradually rather than instantaneously (and I think it will in the coming century, simply by necessity and because of the burgeoning meat alternatives industry that includes laboratory meats). There are so many other problems with meat production that we haven`t even touched on, includi
  28. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 11:16 am
    `They do realize that water doesn`t just disappear after you use it, right? You know, water cycle and whatnot?`

    As I explained in an earlier comment, it`s not that simple. The world relies on aquifers, which are rapidly being depleted. try telling someone in a drought-stricken land that there`s enough water for everyone. One-sixth of the world has no access to clean drinking water. Read about the coming water crisis. It`s a big problem.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Meh!
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    Hedkwab Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    Break the law in order to protest something completely legal.

    Bunch of tards
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    @FoolsPrussia--the problem with access to water in the developing world is one of economy, not lack.

    They give us no capitalistic incentive to transport water over there, and so we don`t. As a result of their ruined politics (in the case of Africa, it`s the fault of Europe. Definitely should not have tried to conquer Africa and re-draw their political map), they can`t manage to pull together an effective effort to agriculturally support themselves, or efficiently gather water. The resources are there.

    The only time we "lose" water is when it becomes contaminated in such a way that it will not naturally extricate itself through evaporation...and this is definitely not the case with animal piss.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    June 19, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    and this is the best picture you could get?

    How `bout a nice cup of MEH
  33. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    @Dr. Professor: It`s actually a combination of economics and lack. As I said, the water table in many countries is disappearing. Many civilizations have relied upon these aquifers for ages. And I would count meat production as a part of the economic issue, considering how many resources it takes to produce meat. I think you have a real problem of economics when countries use most of their grain raising livestock rather than giving it to hungry people.
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    NKaminski Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    I`m fairly sure one pound of produce takes way more water to raise than one pound of meat.
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    KitFox Female 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    Vegetardians get it all wrong when they say eating meat wastes more water than eating vegetables. Raising meat on open pasture (because otherwise it`s just an expanse of grass) is not the same as big agriculture. What you mean to say is you`re against CAFOs and industrial farming, with which I would agree. However, meat grown on small scale farms (more farms spread out) actually is better for the water supply and table (less water expended, no antibiotics=healthier water), and cows grazed correctly create a carbon-neutral footprint.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    June 19, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    boobies or meat....meat
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    NKaminski, factory farms use a feed mixture that includes grains and plantlife. If we eat those grains and plantlife directly, we cut out the middleman, (cows). the ratio is something like 16 lbs of grain for 1 lb of meat.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    Screw the message, BOOBIES!
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    Magmortar Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    Meat tastes like murder and murder tastes pretty god damn good.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    June 19, 2012 at 6:54 pm
    what would we do with all the cows if we didn`t eat them? there`s only so much leather i can incorporate into my public wardrobe, as i`ve already got more than a fair amount in my private wardrobe.....
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    PeRsOnAaNiMa Male 18-29
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    June 19, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    If they are so concerned about water (bc that is the reason to go veggie apparently)then why are they wasting water for a public shower in this demonstration? Should they eat meat to demonstrate that we shouldn`t eat delicious meat?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    FoolsPrussia: How Iran and India use their water is out of our hands, if they choose to overuse their limited resources then that`s their problem to deal with and it has nothing to do whatsoever with two naked numbskulls taking a shower protest.

    Patch is correct that crops use much more water than cattle worldwide. Human beings were made to eat protein from meat. Also the fats and oils from fish and such are known to have benefits for our brains and hearts. There are also benefits to drinking milk and eating eggs (vitamin D, Lutien, Amino acids, Choline, Calcium and other minerals.)
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 8:58 pm
    @Crakrjak: You need to do some homework on the water crisis. It will not just affect Iran and India. In case you hadn`t noticed, the entire southwest of the USA is currently in a drought. It`s a coming worldwide issue, and as you know, wars are fought over resources.

    Regarding humans and meat, I don`t have much room here to get into details. But humans are pretty poorly designed to consume meat. We can`t hunt without a tool of some kind. The other great apes eat very little meat or none at all. So eating meat was an adaptation that may have given us an evolutionary advantage at one time. Now? Not so much.

    The point is, how do you define ethics? For me, anything that causes unnecessary and avoidable cruelty is unethical. It is unnecessary at this point in time and in this society, so I choose to live a life of least violence. Any of the world`s great religions would understand that.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    Patch is correct
    ...What have you done with the real Crakr?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 19, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    Also, you guys have to realize that a lot of the water used to grow crops is factored into the livestock water usage, since cattle consume much more grain than you and I eat.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2012 at 12:22 am
    Peta euthanizes animals. they are more of a political organization than anything.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2012 at 12:47 am
    So in opposition to exploiting animals, they resort to exploiting women! Fantastic.
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    Kourogi Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2012 at 2:24 am
    Oh, so it takes a lot of water to raise animals? Message received, and I think I get what your cause is about.

    Time to eliminate animals from the face of the earth. Veggies are the supreme race.
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    T3hHippie Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2012 at 11:29 am
    @Suicism

    PETA is not exploting women. I am not a fan of PETA nor am I against it but the women who do this, do it because they want to.
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
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    June 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm
    Well that`s so strange, I was actually just thinking of how interesting wat...uh...bee...erm, whatever it is there you`re drawing attention to is. What a terrible injustice it is, and to make it worse so many people aren`t even aware whatever issue you`re drawing attention to is happening.

    You know what, I`d really like to know more about whatever issue you`re drawing attention to. How about you come with me to my place, I`m so very horn...eager to hear all about whatever issue you`re drawing attention to...
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
    294 posts
    June 22, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Also, it`s PETA. We probably shouldn`t be taking them as seriously as some here are. I look at it this way; I`m already nice to animals, I simply naturally have a pretty limited meat intake to begin, I`m not terribly comfortable with how animals in many situations in society are treated, and most people close to me feel similarly, so chances are they aren`t going to get a lot more out of me.

    The thing is, out of all the groups out there that bother people through often obnoxious and frustrating means, I view attractive chicks doing generally hot things as very much so preferable to many other methods when a group is attempting to draw attention to an issue.

    Plus, hey, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. or something like that. I never really considered either to be terribly effective at catching flies, but I`m not the one who makes up these sayings...

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