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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    Link: Obama Heckled During Today`s Immigration Speech - And he gets a rise out of Obama. Anyone else get the feeling that people aren`t happy with this law?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    I`m not sitting through 9 minutes of that windbag just to hear a heckler. Try posting a link to the specific section of the video next time.
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    Burgh Male 40-49
    300 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    Obama is a festering turd like his predecessor. America please be tidy and flush this coming fall.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    If by "people" you mean "Republicans" or "Obama`s political opponents" or "people who hate Mexicans," then yes, yes I do get that feeling that those people aren`t happy with the DHS order. It`s not a "law" per se, but rather a Dept. Homeland Security order.

    By the way, the "heckler" was a supposed reporter for the Daily Caller - a right-wing nutjob website. Way to respect the leader of the free world, right wingers. Disagree all day, but let the President of the United States finish his speech before you start yelling like a petulant child.

    Go ahead, vote for him, vote against him, opine in favor, opine in opposition, but respect the office.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    "Obama is a festering turd like his predecessor. America please be tidy and flush this coming fall. "

    Yeah, by all means, vote for captain "No Principles I Won`t Change Immediately If It Plays Well In the Press That Day," Mitt Romney.

    Obama says what he believes, acts on it, then rubs Republican noses right in the fat dump he took on their faces. He outworks them in the game of politics, and it drives them insane, because they don`t know how to deal with a Democrat with backbone. Suck some balls Republicans.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    What Obama is saying is that they`re sorting out the good apples from the bad apples in the immigration basket so that americans dont dig themselves an early grave by throwing everyone outside with the bathwather.

    That`s plain bold english and i`m french.
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    spreekiller Male 40-49
    46 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    This makes perfect sense, he will get to stay instead of deported to Kenya.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    June 15, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    What your typical Fox News viewer or reader won`t comprehend, because they are largely misinformed about reality, is OBAMA SIMPLY DID WHAT REPUBLICANS WERE INTENDING TO DO WITH THEIR DREAM ACT LITE.

    He took their idea, put it into action, then made them look like chumps while they mill about and and harrumph and got boxed in - their base (See Burgh below) will bitch about the president granting "amnesty," when they don`t even realize it was literally the Republican`s own idea! So they either (1) cannot criticize the President for doing exactly what they said Republicans should do because they`ll be clear hypocrites, or (2) play to the base and ignore reality and pretend they weren`t working on doing the very same thing.

    Look it up. Look up the "mini dream act," jackasses. YOU GOT WORKED!
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    JDplaysFF Male 30-39
    626 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    @goaliejerry - Well said.
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    @MacGuffin

    Lolwut? You just calle.....oh wait you`re a European. Whatever, but I thought you of all people would like Obama. He got all the "War Criminals" out of Iraq
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    @spreekiller

    I wonder what it feels like to be an old, conservative, retard like yourself
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
    1586 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    @MacGuffin I couldn`t agree more. Obama reminds me of my old boss. He spent most of his time talking just to hear himself talk.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 15, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    4:36 and 7:15. He also shouts a bit as Obama is walking away at the end.
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    spreekiller Male 40-49
    46 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    P.S. Legal immigrants = Good Apples
    Illegal immigrants (all of them), The French, Burning feeling when you pee, hipsters and half of Canada = Bad Apples
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    spreekiller Male 40-49
    46 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    @ litcandle

    Prob close to what it feels like to be a young, liberal, retard
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    @spreekiller

    People that were moved to this country as infants and have no knowledge of the fact should be forced back into a country that they have to knowledge about. It even says that you get deported unless you go to college or join the military, so it appeals to old, conservative, retards like yourself.

    Please, just rot and die in a corner if you believe forcing them out is just. Put yourself in their shoes, and this country is rather empty is you measure population density average.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    >>>Lolwut? You just calle.....oh wait you`re a European. Whatever, but I thought you of all people would like Obama. He got all the "War Criminals" out of Iraq<<<


    Did he really? And here was me thinking it was the Iraqi parliament denying immunity to US war criminals beyond 2011 that caused America to finally leave the Iraqis alone, long after every other coalition partner had left voluntarily. Maybe try checking your facts before you get lippy with grownups, eh kid? You just sound like a know-nothing schoolboy when you open your mouth and talk trash.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    @MacGuffin I couldn`t agree more. Obama reminds me of my old boss. He spent most of his time talking just to hear himself talk.

    Yep, he`s a scumbag, and a con man that loves the sound of his own voice. Just like Bush and Romney. The only difference between them is that Obama is better at lying than either of those other two.
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:16 pm
    @MacGuffin

    It doesn`t change the fact that he did. He could have easily just forced Iraq into submission, or tried to "negotiate."

    When he was running for president, he promised that he would put an end to the war. No matter which way you spin it, he delivered
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    It doesn`t change the fact that he did. He could have easily just forced Iraq into submission, or tried to "negotiate."

    When he was running for president, he promised that he would put an end to the war. No matter which way you spin it, he delivered

    Whatever, kid. I`m certainly not going to debate semantics with someone of your age and lack of world experience.
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    @MacGuffin

    What are your facts behind Obama being a scumbag? This guy is trying to do good things for our country. You are comparing Obama, the guy who tried to make relations better between Russia and America to Romney, a guy who said Russia was our mortal enemy?
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Litcandle

    Russia is a totalitarian state. It is run by a KGB thug. It realises that Obama`s stance is simply weakness, and acts so. relations have not improved, Obama has just folded. In the process he has thrown his genuine allies, such as Poland, under a bus.

    Obama has not improved relations with a single country; instead he has damaged relations with many, including Britain, most of central Europe, Israel and Egypt.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    June 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Litcandle

    "It even says that you get deported unless you go to college or join the military"

    Why should college matter? That is pure bigotry.
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    LitCandle Male 13-17
    50 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    @randomxnp

    Because if you don`t go to college or any further education after HS then you are probably going to end up with a bad job, with little pay. You won`t be much of anything and are the main demographic of people that have 999 children and commit crimes.

    He hasn`t improved any relations? Even with Cuba?
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    methelod Male 18-29
    11 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    @MacGuffin "Whatever, kid. I`m certainly not going to debate semantics with someone of your age and lack of world experience."

    I`m staying neutral in the argument, mostly because I will admit I haven`t stayed incredibly informed in presidential politics because no matter who gets elected, very little is going to change in that regard, but back onto the point I was bringing. When you have to resort to tactics of saying that you are done because of someones age and calling them a kid, typically means you have lost an argument due to a lack of a better argument.
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Tucker Carlson defending one of his employees? How shocking. *Yawn*
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 4:55 pm
    I`m staying neutral in the argument, mostly because I will admit I haven`t stayed incredibly informed in presidential politics because no matter who gets elected, very little is going to change in that regard, but back onto the point I was bringing. When you have to resort to tactics of saying that you are done because of someones age and calling them a kid, typically means you have lost an argument due to a lack of a better argument.

    No, when it comes to politics, citing someone`s age is perfectly reasonable, and merely means that you`re not prepared to discuss things at the level of an inexperienced juvenile that doesn`t even know basic facts about how the world works. There`s a reason that people of LitCandle`s age aren`t allowed to vote yet, and it`s the same reason that most people my age aren`t interested in debating politics with them: they don`t know enough about life yet to warrant a serious debate about politics.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
    1754 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Lol a teenager is owning you guys.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    I appreciate how we (Democrats) were supposed to respect the president, W, even if we hated his policies. We were at war, after all, and it was unpatriotic, akin, even, to treason to speak ill of him. Now Supreme Court Justices, Congressmen and even the conservative press think it`s okay to OPENLY DISRESPECT OBAMA WHILE HE`S SPEAKING?! He is the President. You don`t like him, fine. Want him gone, fine. Speak while he`s speaking, though? Openly disrespect him? Just like the unprecedented money and lawsuits levied against Clinton?

    I`m touched that the Republicans are ONCE AGAIN lowering the bar on respect for the position while claiming the high ground and victimhood. Thank you, guys. Good job. :-(
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Your arguments are so week a teenager is handing you your ass.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    I don`t care if you hate the President you respect the position. This is why George Bush cherry picked the press he wanted at his talks. I don`t blame him. The press these days are a bunch of amateurs who piss on the standards of journalism. F*ck people like this guy.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
    926 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    I absolutely love this legislation, and am thankful to have a President who is willing to stand up for what is right knowing full well that it wasn`t going to be received well.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm
    I don`t care if you hate the President you respect the position.

    What a pathetic, weak* argument. Why on earth should anyone respect an office that`s been occupied by a succession of liars, opportunists and war criminals that are guilty of crimes against humanity, including torture?







    * Note the spelling. "Week" = seven days. `Weak` = of poor quality. Sometimes a spell checker just isn`t enough to hide profound ignorance.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
    676 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    Please all of you dems. Don`t start with the holier-than-thou attitude. If this was Bush, you would laugh. I`m a republican, but I wasn`t a fan of Bush`s.
    Obama is underqualified as a president and it shows. The fanaticism of the dems towards Obama, is akin to a bunch of girls litcandle`s age going backstage after seeing their first Justin Bieber concert.
    Oh, and stop blaming Bush. At some point the current president has to own the economy he signed up for and said he would have under control in 3 years, or he would be a one-term president. Check the interview with Matt Lauer in 2008.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    Whatever it takes to get dem votes...
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    Xprez Male 30-39
    676 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm
    Are all of you supporters aware that he only recently changed his mind on some topics right before election? He didn`t have a great epiphany.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:37 pm
    Are all of you supporters aware that he only recently changed his mind on some topics right before election? He didn`t have a great epiphany.

    It makes a change from flip-flopping after the election, I suppose. As far as Obama goes, despite my not being a fan of Romney, my advice to anyone would be that there needs to be a reckoning when Presidents lie as flagrantly as Obama has.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:37 pm
    Obama was elected on a manifesto of closing Guantanamo, making amends for past wrongdoing by US personnel, and shining some sanitising daylight on the murkier practices of the Bush regime. Instead, Guantanamo is still open, he`s tried to continue all of the same wars as Bush did (he didn`t succeed in keeping Iraq going, but he tried), and he looks to be entering into a few more new conflicts (Libya already, and Syria & Iran possibly to come). And, rather than shining some disinfecting daylight on the sins of the past, he`s instead covered up photographic evidence of rape and murder by US troops, on the cynical self-serving fallacy that publicising evidence of such extensive wrongdoing would "risk American lives".

    Anyone that voted for him to try and obtain an improvement in America`s relationship with the world last time around should avoid voting for him again, because the hard truth is he`s simply not delivered on that promise.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    why hasn`t there been a single negative post about Romney?

    I have submitted several and I know of other members that have as well but IAB, will not run them.

    however, any story making Obama look bad gets posted ASAP.

    I am a Ron Paul supporter but honesntly, I am tired of IABs obvious slant to the right and how they use their viewership to push their agenda.

    if they pushed a left leaning agenda I would have a problem with it also...I come here for entertainment, and to interact with other members, not to have the site itself try to influence my political decisions.

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    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    @MacGuffin
    Someone from Europe talking about an American President...You couldn`t possibly be fed lies in the same way we are! Your media is filtered just like every other country, don`t kid yourself.
    You are allowed to debate politics, but don`t get me started on the "..Liars, opportunists and war criminals..." from almost every country in Europe. Obama isn`t the saviour, but he certainly isn`t as corrupt and slimy as Bush, or many of the people before him. And that "kid" seems to know what he is talking about, and I would gladly debate politics with him.


    To everybody who seems to be upset about this action. Be angry about true injustice, not something that progresses general human rights. People seriously make me get nervous when they get angry over things like this, it`s just illogical.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 15, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    It`s easy enough to criticize Obama without acting like a total douche and making him into a sympathetic character.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    @jamie76 why hasn`t there been a single negative post about Romney?
    I have submitted several and I know of other members that have as well but IAB, will not run them
    Maybe it`s because they aren`t funny. This is an entertainment site, not a just place for you to fling your poo.
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    kitzman Male 30-39
    5 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 9:41 pm
    Well, the whole thing sounds like a justification for why he is acceptable as president with a suspect birth certificate. It should be expected from someone who isn`t legitimate to be passing laws that make concession for the illegitimate.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:00 pm
    How the hell did someone from the Daily Caller get a press pass? Sensational web sites from either side should not have access to press conferences and announcements. Only journalists should be allowed.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    I love it Obama - so, due to our failure as a Federal jurisdiction to secure the borders that define that jurisdiction, and because we also engaged in redistribution of your wealth to the children of those aliens who exploited this lax jurisdiction in the form of free education and medical care, we have no choice but to follow through with our proxy amnesty by offering citizenship after 5 years with a couple of strings attached.

    Ok, next it`s gonna be My fellow Americans - while we have made significant progress in securing an opportunity for the children of undocumented migrants to make a viable contribution to our society, it is not equitable to now bring the letter of the law down upon those who helped raise them, and were responsible for supporting their drive to succeed. What are children supposed to do without their parents?

    Where does it end? That`s what I want to know.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    I don`t ever once recall someone yelling and interrupting Bush (or any other president for that matter) during a formal speech. I do remember plenty of people yelling at other American`s who disagreed with Bush to shut up and follow and respect the president. But apparently these same people think it is now ok to completely disrespect the president.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:06 pm
    Someone threw a f*cking shoe at him unmercyfuldu - where the hell were you?
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
    1268 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    Dey took ur jerbs!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:22 pm
    unmercyfuldu: Sam Donaldson was famous for doing this same exact thing to GW Bush. No one thought it was shocking then.

    The fact that Obama got bent out of shape and "Pissy" about someone that dared to question him just goes to show his narcissism.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
    1268 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:29 pm
    "The fact that Obama got bent out of shape and "Pissy" about someone that dared to question him just goes to show his narcissism."

    Was that EVER in question? He`s a fraking successful political figure, I`m sorry, but one SHOULD expect a heightened level of narcissism from an established orator. His job is to convince you his position is the best position. You don`t honestly take offense to a narcissistic president, do you?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    "Obama says what he believes, acts on it"
    wut?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    @Scuzoid
    I do, but only because I want a president that will actually do their job. I`m going to have to agree with macbbetterthanyouguffin on this one. Our politicians suck ass.
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
    353 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    It doesn`t matter if you agree with what he did or not, the fact is it`s 100% illegal and unconstitutional.There are three separate entities of government in place to prevent exactly this type of dictatorship.
    He has bypassed the legislative and judicial branches to command an executive order on a subject that the executive branch can not pass without the other two.
    Like him or hate him, another fact is this President has crossed the line and has blatantly violated the constitution.
    Charges should be brought against him immediately, if not it will be the stepping stone for every President in the future to disregard the greatest document in the history of the world since the Magna Carta.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
    612 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 11:15 pm
    "they were raised as americans"
    thats funny because i was raised to speak English and pay taxes, they were not.

    the best part of this video is when he is running away from questions... well played.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    May as well get used to it. After today, this picture is becoming more and more of a reality.



    HE CAN`T JUST BYPASS CONGRESS! HE IS NOT A KING!
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 11:46 pm
    WeePee, they, for the most part, speak English (which isn`t a requirement to be an American citizen, btw) and pay taxes, too.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    June 15, 2012 at 11:49 pm
    "Anyone that voted for him to try and obtain an improvement in America`s relationship with the world last time around should avoid voting for him again"

    I`m not reading all the posts here `cause I`m about to go to sleep but I saw that you`re /still/ saying this. You do realize that we only really have 2 options, right? Obama or Romney. Not voting for Obama is essentially voting for Romney, whether or not you actually go through with it, which is a far worse option than getting Obama for a 2nd term, no matter how much I feel he didn`t live up to his campaign promises (they never do, though). It`s easy for you to say "just don`t vote for him!" because you`re not the one who will have to live with Romney for 4 years, but we actually have to live with such consequences, so we should vote for whoever we`d most prefer to win out of the 2, even if they aren`t ideal.
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    pfkdxius Male 18-29
    314 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 12:27 am
    I think a more accurate title would be:
    "Guy is an non-nice individual at presidential press conference"
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
    353 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 12:28 am
    @Lillian:
    Here`s the problem with a 2cnd Obama term.Within the next 4 yrs he will do this again and again making it more acceptable to break the law.In turn his successor will do the same and so on...
    If he is impeached for this violation now, his successor; be it Romney or whomever the democratic party decides to throw in the ring will know this behavior is unacceptable for the President.
    This must be nipped in the bud now or else you might as well use the original copy of the constitution to wipe your butt.
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    ExtraCredit Male 50-59
    451 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 12:41 am
    Republicans get pwned by Obama again. It`s difficult to take Republican claims of usurping congress seriously after eight years of GWB rewriting law after law with his "signing statements."

    Brilliant political gamesmanship.

    Four more years!
    Four more years!
    Four more years!
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
    353 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 1:43 am
    @ExtraCredit:
    Your statement has proven my point.
    Bush "Signed statements." so it`s o.k for Obama to bypass congress.
    And what about the next President?
    What boundaries and laws will he break because his predecessors got away with it?
    Now is not the time for party loyalty,the survival of the constitution depends on the legislative and the judicial branches response to this violation.If nothing is done, our future as a free society looks grim.
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    PopCap Male 30-39
    730 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 4:44 am
    Democrats:

    People who piss on their own subway seat so no one else will take it.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 5:06 am
    Obama was elected on a manifesto of closing Guantanamo, making amends for past wrongdoing by US personnel, and shining some sanitising daylight on the murkier practices of the Bush regime. ---------
    Not really. Obama was elected because he`s an eloquent speaker and likable guy, something that`s missing in whole herd of republicans. I don`t recall any campaign promises from him about "shining a light" on anything. It was pretty obvious that Bush had lied about the reasons for war. He did campaign on Healthcare (check), capturing or killing OBL (check) and closing Guantanamo, 2 outta 3 ain`t bad. Republicans blocked that from happening because they fear terrorists. If you think that things will be better by voting for Mittens by all means go ahead and vote for him. You will only be hurting yourself and CJ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 5:37 am
    I`m not reading all the posts here `cause I`m about to go to sleep but I saw that you`re /still/ saying this. You do realize that we only really have 2 options, right? Obama or Romney.

    I`m not reading all your post, `cause you seem to think it`s OK to have an opinion without doing that, but I saw that you`re still thinking in limited terms of only the next four years, rather than the rest of your life. Voting for Obama just because you don`t want the other guy is about the most stupid reason for voting for any candidate I`ve ever heard. If you ever want the broken political system in your country to get fixed in your lifetime, occasionally you`re going to have to take a stand and vote for None Of The Above. If the only choice on offer is between liars and extremists of different colours, then don`t choose any of them and let the low level of support for any candidate speak for itself.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2012 at 5:42 am
    There hasn`t been a truthful politician since Jimmy Carter. He tried it and is mocked to this day. You can have your high mind of voting right person and I`ll do the same. Barack Obama will go down in history as one of the greats. He`s not liberal enough for me, but he`s the best offering out there.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 5:44 am
    >>>I don`t recall any campaign promises from him about "shining a light" on anything.<<<


    He promised to release evidence of US troops abusing civilians in war zones as part of a process of recognising past wrong-doing and making amends, here is a link to the story.

    I wonder how history might have been different if other war criminals had been allowed to cover up evidence of wrongdoing? BS like the above is a big part of the reason why the world is moving away from America, leaving you ever more isolated in anything you try and do internationally. Even if you don`t recognise you actions are wrong, we do.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 5:46 am
    I think you`re mistaken. That article wasn`t about a broken campaign promise it`s about a president change of mind... Presidents don`t have that option?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 5:57 am
    I think you`re mistaken. That article wasn`t about a broken campaign promise it`s about a president change of mind... Presidents don`t have that option?

    I believe the exact phrase Obama used on the campaign trail was "Restoring America`s image in the world", alongside a load of rhetoric about how the Iraq war and the abuse that went on it was wrong. Despite promising to help correct that past wrongdoing (part of which was releasing those photographs) he also promised to close Guantanamo, end military tribunals for the people (including juveniles) illegally detained and tortured there, and end rendition. None of which has actually happened. The man is a liar, and every bit as much a human rights abuser as his predecessor. Vote for him again, and you`ll be party to those human rights abuses too.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 6:19 am
    The Iraq war was wrong and Obama ended it. I swear some people can`t be pleased. Look, George Bush and a chunk of his cronies are convicted war criminals. Their prison seems to be America. This verdict just came down in March and Bush cancelled a trip to Sweden since so I think he`s scared. The Iraq war was a big lie and it was obvious by 2004. Yet he was reelected. This in and of itself haunts me as an American. I like to tell myself that Bush never really won a presidential election. That he was appointed by the Supreme Court in 2000 and rigged the Ohio vote to win in 2004. That belief allows me to interact on a day to day basis with people that I know are morons.
    The Closing of Guantanamo was blocked by republicans. Indeed he could have fought harder for it but at the time I think he was trying to appease the right.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1811 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 6:29 am
    Jimmies....were slightly rustled....
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
    363 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 6:30 am
    Madest - One of the greats? What planet do you live on? His entire Presidency has been a total failure. He is already considered the worst president ever and he is not even done yet...And you talk about Bush`s criminal friends...Wow, have you looked at Obama`s friends and cabinet members?..Oh and Obama was elected because he is an eloquent speaker and a likable guy.....Actually, he is an eloquent reader and he was likable because he said what we wanted to hear...did not do any of it but we believed him..bad on us..The problem is, he should not have been elected because he was likable, The Presidency should not be a popularity contest, he is simply not cut out for the job, he is too inexperienced (156 days in congress most of which he was absent) and I could go on and on...I know I wont change your mind, you are obviously too blind to see anything but what you want to see. I really wish I could live in your dreamworld.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 6:42 am
    >>>The Iraq war was wrong and Obama ended it.<<<


    He did not "end it". Obama tried unsuccessfully to negotiate further immunity for US troops in Iraq with the Iraqi government so that US troops could stay beyond 2011, and was humiliated when the Iraqi government didn`t capitulate to his request.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 6:43 am
    In addition to that, he`s trotted out garbage like insisting that a US citizen that was not a diplomat and who had killed two Pakistani citizens in Pakistan "should have immunity", meanwhile the US kidnapped Pakistani doctor Aafia Siddiqui (who hadn`t killed anyone), renders her for five years in a black site, then had the cheek to sentence her to 86 years in prison when she tried to defend herself against that illegal rendition.

    I say again: if you vote for that man again, then you are part of these abuses and the raging hypocrisy he stands for.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 7:49 am
    OK then I`m a part of those abuses. On the other hand a vote for Romney is surely a vote for war with Iran. There`s our choice. Something you won`t have to worry about.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 8:06 am
    `He is already considered the worst president ever and he is not even done yet`

    You mean by the people who hated him going in.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 8:41 am
    @FoolsPrussia
    Not so. A LOT of democrats that supported him going in no longer like him. They`re still going to support their party, but they`re doing so with regret that he even got the democratic nomination to start with. It seems like the majority of people who actually like Obama (not just democrats or people who think he will be better than Romney) are angsty young folks and black people. (I`m not being racist, that`s just more or less true)
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
    363 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 8:57 am
    No, I mean by results. 5 TRILLION more debt, pissed off most of our allies, Increased unemployment to nearly 30% (that`s the real number), instituted policies without congressional approval, Not to mention his recent job approval numbers hit a historical low of 43%... Even the democrats don`t want anything to do with this narcissistic douche bag who thinks he knows everything.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 9:10 am
    A LOT of democrats that supported him going in no longer like him. -------
    You gotta stop watching Fox. From my point of view, Obama has the female vote locked in, the gay vote, the minority vote and the immigrant vote. Better hope that there`s more white, conservative, religious, racists than there are everyone else.
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    Butters420 Male 18-29
    37 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 9:12 am
    "load generic `merican speech #1"
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 9:25 am
    That`s why Romney leads all polls and some are starting to say "landslide" right?

    Pack it in.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:04 am
    I wish elections were only three months.
  82. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:10 am
    I wish elections were only three months.

    I wish they were only three days. I also wish that they were held every two years, instead of every four (five in the UK): it would lead to politicians concentrating more on what they actually do all the time, rather than on what they merely say their intentions are right before an election.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:16 am
    "I also wish that they were held every two years"

    If terms were only two years, crap like this would be happening constantly.
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    549 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:20 am
    SOLUTION TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! Get soldiers BACK to the US and put them on the boarder. No more illegal immigrants coming in. No more war. Two birds, one stone.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:22 am
    Crap like this already happens constantly. We have one long, endless, political campaign. How about 1 seven year term for president and only a 2 year term for congress? And a rule change that bars the loser from ever running again.
  86. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:43 am
    If terms were only two years, crap like this would be happening constantly.

    I suggest that rather than "crap like this happening constantly", it would instead force those that get into office into the position of being judged on what they have actually done, rather than on just the self-serving rhetoric that they spout to the gullible in order to get elected, which they then forget for the next four years.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:44 am
    Heckler exposed. Niel Munro is an Irish born reporter who works here thanks to a green card. So this hypocrite can piss and moan about lost American jobs to immigrants but sees no irony in his actions. The hypocrisy on the right never ceases to astound me.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 10:57 am
    "So this hypocrite can piss and moan about lost American jobs to immigrants but sees no irony in his actions."

    He is legal to work here, as he went through the process. He didn`t just hop the border and buy fake SS numbers.

    There is no irony. He worked his ass off to do it the right way, and now people who did it wrong are benefiting from breaking the law.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 11:04 am
    And Obama did not give a pass to those people. Illegal immigration is down under Obama. Facts don`t matter on the right.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 11:48 am
    All hail the King! All hail the King! No longer a democratic republic the USA now bows to one man that makes law.

    All hail the King!
  91. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    `A LOT of democrats that supported him going in no longer like him.`

    I didn`t say he was a great president or anything. I voted for him (registered independent), and I`m still trying to decide on this election. But I was responding to the person who said he is widely viewed as "the worst president ever." I don`t think that is the wide view, especially since a lot of people put his predecessor in that category, and a majority still view the economy as largely Bush`s fault.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    @madest Just because he has all those votes doesn`t mean all of his voters like him. That`s not very sound logic.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    LitCandle-"This guy is trying to do good things for our country."

    This is the sign of a person who hasn`t been paying attention for 4 years.

    SmagBoy1-"were supposed to respect the president, W, even if we hated his policies"

    What the hell are you talking about? The liberals NEVER respected W. Even Hillary Clinton said "Descent is the Highest form of Patriotism."

    I find it humerous (read "Hypocritical) that liberals are getting upset that people are treating O just like they treated W (and fall back on calling it `racist`).

    unmercyfuldu-"I don`t ever once recall someone yelling and interrupting Bush"

    Then you have a very short, or highly biased, memory.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    "Obama says what he believes, acts on it"

    But only AFTER he`s `evolved` on the subject several times.

    madest-"Illegal immigration is down under Obama"

    Two reasons for that. 1) States like Arizona & Alabama starting to enforce the law the feds should be & 2) Thanks to Obama, the job situation is looking better in Mexico.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
    2587 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    "Thanks to Obama, the job situation is looking better in Mexico."

    So according to this logic, Mexicans should neither have a good job situation in the U.S., or in their own country.
  96. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    `1) States like Arizona & Alabama starting to enforce the law the feds should be & 2) Thanks to Obama, the job situation is looking better in Mexico.`

    You ought to give Obama more credit. His administration has almost matched the numbers Bush deported in both terms.

    Link
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    @MeGrendel

    "States like Arizona & Alabama starting to enforce the law the feds should be"

    Funny how the right wing in America alwyas seem unhappy for the Federal government to take anything away from the state governments...

    ...except when it`s blame.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
    316 posts
    June 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm
    Bush had a shoe thrown at him. If that happened to Obama the left would call it an attempted lynching.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 3:42 am
    "Bush had a shoe thrown at him. If that happened to Obama the left would call it an attempted lynching."

    Some on the right called it a terrorist attack, and an assassination attempt. The protester was sentenced to 3 years in prison for assault. Some on the right were calling for 15 to life.

    So your argument is pretty much... what? That the left are way more reasonable even after you ridiculously exaggerate their behaviour?
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 5:56 am
    With such a sketchy background with his citizenship, HE should be deported.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 8:53 pm
    Logic according to @madest:

    So this hypocrite

    A guy LEGALLY in the country has NO RIGHT to question when ILLEGALS get a free pass! Yes, ALL must obey without question! Otherwise YOU are racist!

    House of Congress? I DON`T NEED no stinking House Of Congress to make MY laws! -B. Hussain Obama
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    June 17, 2012 at 11:17 pm
    @Baalthazaq Some on the right called it a terrorist attack, and an assassination attempt. The protester was sentenced to 3 years in prison for assault. Some on the right were calling for 15 to life.
    I call bull$#!+. I did some searching, and I couldn`t find any mention of this. I did find one mention that he faced a POSSIBLE maximum sentence of 15 years, but I could not find a single reference of anyone calling for any sort of harsh sentence.

    I do recall a lot of pro-terrorist Muslims cheering the assailant as a hero. If you Google the words:

    iraqi throws shoe at bush hero

    you get about About 637,000 results.

    So, if your claim is true, post a link, or STFU! (A posting from an anonymous troll in an open forum doesn`t count.)
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    maluku Male 18-29
    18 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 7:53 am
    (i`m from holland btw)

    seems like this law only applies for young ppl who want further education or join the army.. why the huge opposition to this proposal?
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    triki-trakes Male 18-29
    83 posts
    June 18, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    There is no real reason to be pissed off `Merica. OBAMA has stepped up deportation more than any other president before him. HOW DO YOU GET THE REST out?? Simple. Have them check in with you on this "DREAM" act and keep tabs on where they are.

    OBAMA says so himself. this is not a path to citizenship, this is not a permanent fix.

    I`m calling it now, as soon as the time expires on this dream act, all and anybody that applied to this act will be asked to leave the country willfully otherwise any traffic violation or any other way to get a hold of the person will result in immediate deportation. JUST GENIOUS!!!
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    liabach Male 40-49
    3242 posts
    July 1, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    man, he so doesn`t know how to handle hecklers, the proper response would have been; "Do I come down where your mother works and slap the dick out of her mouth?"

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