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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    Link: Nearly 1 In 2 Americans Are Nuts... - ...or really bad at math.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    Hey.

    Hey you guys.

    Religious people.

    They believe in their religion.

    Astonishing!! Revolutionary!! Altogether shocking!!
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    Tobunshi Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    lol, religious people.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Also: looks like they interviewed a LOT of hispanics. They`re notoriously religious. I`d be able to tell exactly how many were hispanic but it looks like the PDF file is incomplete. It should have given me the full methodology, full questions, and complete trend data but it only gives me the methodology. Very disappointing for Gallup to screw up like this.
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    Tubby12370 Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    Let the Religious flame war begin.

    Religious people are Crazy.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Maybe the islamics are right.
    If we`re this stupid, maybe we do need to be put out of our mysery
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    If they want to believe that then who cares? You can`t educate people who have no desire to learn what so ever.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm
    Yike. More than half the people on this planet are dumb as dirt. It`s not that surprising at all to find out the majority of those folks choose "faith" over fact.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm
    ...and the rest of the western world moved on without them. And they all lived happily ever after.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    If you think about it, having a god is just as crazy as the big bang
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    "More than half the people on this planet are dumb as dirt."

    This poll is only for the US and slightly LESS than half remain dedicated to their religion. A+ interpretation, your Canadian intelligence is overwhelming.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    Religion vs Science is comparable to Theft vs Hard Work
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    I know all you libs get off spewing hate at people who believe in biblical creation, but I have to ask, seriously, what the f*** difference does it make to you what someone else believes? Does it really matter if they guy fixing your car, or the gal doing your taxes believes in some creation myth? Really, what could it possibly matter what anyone believes in this regard.

    I am a firm believer in evolution, but I honestly could not care less what anyone else believes. It has absolutely ZERO consequences to me. So please explain, why is it so important to you?
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    Actually that is quite a problem. You should be be doing something about that.
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    RCola Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    The most intelligent sentence in this article:

    "Not surprisingly, more religious Americans are more likely to be creationists."

    You don`t say! I got a chuckle out of that gem.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    leesah:
    "This poll is only for the US and slightly LESS than half remain dedicated to their religion. A+ interpretation, your Canadian intelligence is overwhelming."
    ----

    What made you think I was referring to the U.S.? I said: "More than half the people on this planet are dumb as dirt." That`s what I meant. Nothing to do with this survey. Then, I said: "It`s not that surprising at all to find out the majority of those folks choose "faith" over fact." This time I was referencing the survey. As in: It`s not that surprising that these results are what they are, seeing how half of the population of the planet is dumb as dirt.

    Your hatred of Canada, mixed with extreme stupidity, is slowing you down sweetie. I can see what side of the percentage you are sitting on.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    OldOllie:
    "I know all you libs get off spewing hate at people who believe in biblical creation, but I have to ask, seriously, what the f*** difference does it make to you what someone else believes? Does it really matter if they guy fixing your car, or the gal doing your taxes believes in some creation myth? ...So please explain, why is it so important to you?"
    -----

    Well, Ollie, it matters greatly to me. Every time I have to fight to keep it out of the schools, it matters to me. Every time one of those twits attacks my Daughter for her beliefs, it matters to me. Every time I get preached to and told I`m going to Hell, it matters to me.

    I`ve said it before. As long as they continue to ram it down my throat, I will continue to tell them how stupid it is.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    OldOllie, I want to second what patchouly said. It doesn`t matter one hill of beans to me what anyone believes regarding spirituality...right up to the point of someone wanting to impose their spiritual beliefs on me via legislation that governs my life, my body, my rights, and my education and children`s education (to name a few). If someone wants to believe in something religious, fine. They have their tax free churches, their homes and other legal, non-tax-based placed to congregate and exercise those beliefs. And I 100% support them in that. Start trying to impose that poo on me, though? It pisses me right off. And I don`t see anything wrong with pushing back when that happens.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    Where are all these nutcases? I don`t know if I know a single person that really believes that.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    The problem goes beyond religious people prosthelytizing. I don`t care what people believe as long as they don`t harm others. But denying evolution does harm others. It harms people when people try to confuse children by saying that evolution is an unproven theory, or that intelligent design is a scientific theory. It hurts our society as well, especially with all the science and technology jobs being lost to other countries.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    "I can see what side of the percentage you are sitting on."

    Right, you commented on a poll about Americans and Christianity but you were TOTALLY talking about the rest of the world and their collective religions, totally, for sure bro, I mad believe you. If you were referring Americans in only your second sentence why not say "these" people instead of "those"? Because you were referring to your first sentence! Good cover up attempt, you were SO close, but it would be easier and less embarrassing to just admit it from the start next time. :[
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    leesah:
    "Good cover up attempt, you were SO close, but it would be easier and less embarrassing to just admit it from the start next time."
    ------

    Firstly, what are you talking about? Why would I change what I said? To what end? Are you seriously quibbling over, what you perceive as, my being out by a few percentage points? Even if I was, which I`m telling you I was not, how does that have any bearing on anything? Secondly, are you so insecure in your faith that you need to find tiny holes in a person`s statement to make yourself fell better. As though somehow, if I was out by a few percentage points, that might just prove science was wrong and there is a God?!?
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    We need to just start ignoring OldOllie. I think he`s just a troll. Either that or just a complete idiot. He isn`t worth our time either way.
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    That`s not good. It`s about time to bring back religious studies to schools again. Prayer is always a good thing
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    leesah:
    "Right, you commented on a poll about Americans and Christianity but you were TOTALLY talking about the rest of the world and their collective religions, totally, for sure bro"
    ------

    Ummmm...yes. That`s why I said "More than half the people on this PLANET" and not "More than half the people in the U.S.".
    Having some trouble reading tonight?
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    Experts agree that one out of two people make up 50% of the population.
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    Stonardsftw Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    @leesah

    You know, he does have a valid point. Half of the people on this planet being dumb as dirt would explain why half of the people in the Us are creationists.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    OldOllie:

    The fact that our country is falling farther and farther behind the rest of the industrialized world in science and almost half of people in this country rejecting science as not trustworthy in favor of religious teaching I would argue has some connection. Beliefs matter.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    I`ve said it before. As long as they continue to ram it down my throat, I will continue to tell them how stupid it is.
    Right, because evolutionists NEVER try to ram THEIR beliefs down anyone`s throat. Look, all you`ve done here is put forth an extremely convincing argument for abolishing government schools.

    And if your arguments are so weak that you can`t stand to hear ideas that disagree with your own, maybe you should just say home and unplug your Internet connection.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    I am sure they don`t really believe that rubbish. It`s the Santa Survey Effect. Send a four year old out with a clipboard and survey how many adults believe in Santa.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    Maybe the islamics are right.
    If we`re this stupid, maybe we do need to be put out of our mysery
    Right, because THOSE guys REALLY have the Universe all figured out. (Hey, if I kill a homosexual, I get extra virgins, right?)
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    The fact that our country is falling farther and farther behind...has some connection. Beliefs matter.
    Except for the inconvenient fact that back when the USA led the world in science, we were MORE, not less religious, so your explanation cannot possibly be correct.

    If you want to look at two variables that correlate perfectly, look at the decline in math science proficiency vs. the increase in liberal influence over our public schools.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    @SmagBoy1 There will ALWAYS be people who disagree with you on one issue or another, and sometimes they will be in the majority. The answer isn`t to try to shut them up. The answer is to dismantle the government power structure that BOTH sides are constantly trying to use to impose their beliefs on each other.

    A good place to start would be to abolish government schools. Once they`re gone, then ALL of this bull$#!+ simply goes away.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm
    We need to just start ignoring OldOllie.
    That`s what you do when you lack the wherewithal to put forth an intelligent argument. First deny, then insult, then dismiss and claim that you won. It`s called mental masturbation, and you`re the fapping king of it.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm
    `Except for the inconvenient fact that back when the USA led the world in science, we were MORE, not less religious`

    Nobody is saying it`s the reason we`re slipping. We`re saying it`s a factor in the slide, and it certainly doesn`t help to make up any ground.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    Nobody is saying it`s the reason we`re slipping. We`re saying it`s a factor in the slide, and it certainly doesn`t help to make up any ground.
    In that case, you`re just wasting bandwidth.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 2, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    I`d like to see the racial demographics of this.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Ollie,

    It is the rejection of science. Evolution is one of the most proven theories and religion is saying it is a lie. Evolution is Proven by a multitude of sciences including geology, biology, genetics, and many others and 46% of Americans reject them. Saying that those beliefs have no effect on you and the rest of us is just not true.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm
    Sell the South to Mexico and the scores improve dramatically.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    OldOllie:
    "Right, because evolutionists NEVER try to ram THEIR beliefs down anyone`s throat."
    -----
    No, we don`t. Even though we should. We should insist that the lack of comprehension that creationists show is something that should be shunned, in hopes that we can eventually put the brainwashed drivel behind us. Creationists have zero ground to stand on yet they cling to it and get mad when we point it out. You can claim that we are "ramming it down your throat" all you want. The truth is, what you are ramming down my throat is barbaric drivel with no basis in reality. None. What I am suggesting is a scientific hypothesis based on years of facts and evidence. If you choose to ignore that you`re either stupid (which I don`t think you are) or you`ve been so badly brainwashed that you are afraid to face reality.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    patchouly, I`m not arguing the facts of evolution, I`m saying the fight over it is a complete waste of time and resources. It would all go away if we simply abolished government ownership and control over the education industry. Government ownership and control over ANY industry has ALWAYS failed miserably, and education is no exception. If the peckerwoods want to send their kids to the creationist school, I say let them. And if I want to send my kids to a school that teaches multivariate calculus and nonlinear differential equations in jr. high, then I should be able to do that as well.

    And when I`m looking for a plumber or tree surgeon, I`m not going to ask him to explain his views on cosmology to me.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    Saying that those beliefs have no effect on you and the rest of us is just not true.
    Okay, fine, give me one, just one example where someone else`s belief in biblical creation has any significant effect on your life that does NOT have to do with what is being taught in government schools which I have already said should be abolished. And please, no "anti-science" generalities or platitudes. Give me something concrete, something that is a real, identifiable cost to you.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm
    Ollie,

    My point is beliefs have an effect on everyone. Creationists beliefs go beyond rejecting science. They can believe whatever they want, and I support their right to be wrong but I have no problem with people pointing out their stupidity either.
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    notorious98 Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 10:40 pm
    @patchouly

    "No, we don`t. Even though we should."

    You couldn`t be more full of it. The majority of atheists I`ve been around spend more of their time denouncing the Christian God than any other group of individuals. And, quite frankly, it`s obnoxious. In fact, your entire response to OldOllie reeks of the obnoxiousness of most Atheists I`ve been around. Let people believe what they want if it doesn`t effect you and they`ll let you believe what you want. You`re not any more enlightened. You`re still just a clueless ape like the rest of us. That`s why you`re just putting forth a hypothesis. Which is a synonym for "belief".

    @Otto67

    Your generalized version of Creationist beliefs is what goes beyond rejecting science. Personally, I believe in God and creation, but I also believe in forms of evolution.

    Jesus, why the hell do atheists believe they need to be such stuck up asshats?
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    Selous Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 10:57 pm
    wow, how stupid do you have to be to believe that rubbish?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:30 pm
    notorious98

    It isn`t Christians. Don`t take it personally. We view all theists as equally delusional. But Christians are the only group that constantly whips their religion out and shoves it in our faces. Muslims aren`t trying to change school books. Jews aren`t knocking on my door on sunday. Hindus aren`t fighting to defund scientific programs. Buddhists aren`t picketing military funerals. Wiccans aren`t spending millions to create or defeat legislation of people`s personal lives. I don` see billboards and park benches and busses plastered with Shinto messaging.

    Here is an analogy. You have a special ed class. All the kids are retarded, but the one who is jumping up and down screaming while he smears glue all over his face is going to get the most attention.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:35 pm
    OldOllie

    "give me one, just one example where someone else`s belief in biblical creation has any significant effect on your life"

    How about a little thing like when I travel to Europe and when someone finds out I`m American I get that look. The one that says oh you`re one of those morons.

    There is something to be said for raising the intellectual bar in our country and not propagating generations of brainwashed kids that have no concept of science or history because the answer to every question is "God did it".

    I would be irritated if half of americans thought we were hatched from giant flying elephants too.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:49 pm
    "what the f*** difference does it make to you what someone else believes?"

    Why does it matter if we teach our kids how America was discovered. Let them believe an alien wearing a funny hat discovered America and sold it to the British! Why should we teach our kids that 1+1=2? They can believe that 1+1=12, it`s just a matter of opinion and it doesn`t have an effect on my life...

    Except that facts and science aren`t merely beliefs, and when people continue to brainwash the youth in this country with their bullsh-t beliefs that only cause harm and stupidity, we`ll continue to call them out on their bullsh-t. It shouldn`t be perfectly fine to lie to children and present it as the truth when it completely contradicts reality.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 1:18 am
    Once again, atheists calling Christians `nuts` on IAB, wow I`m really shocked and surprised (NOT).

    Never mind the fact that, in the actual article, only 15% of the people questioned believe in evolution w/o God`s influence.

    You know what`s really nuts? Atheists claiming everyone else is `nuts` when, in actually, their view is really only a small minority.

    Being a rabid atheist doesn`t make you smarter, it makes you an egotistical condescending prick.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    June 3, 2012 at 4:23 am
    @HolyGod Maybe you are a moron, just sayin`.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    June 3, 2012 at 4:40 am
    You can have religion and science you know...
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    June 3, 2012 at 4:40 am
    also the big bang and god are both creation theories
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:05 am
    Right, because evolutionists NEVER try to ram THEIR beliefs down anyone`s throat. Look, all you`ve done here is put forth an extremely convincing argument for abolishing government schools.

    And if your arguments are so weak that you can`t stand to hear ideas that disagree with your own, maybe you should just say home and unplug your Internet connection.

    How typical, OldOllie. No, Evolutionists, *don`t* try to ram anything down anyone`s throat. They don`t try to write legislation that affects *all* citizens based on their beliefs. They don`t try to censor what`s taught in churches, or in private homes. They don`t try to prevent people from living with other people, based on their beliefs. The only thing they do is try to teach science as a science--which any good scientists ADMITS is not perfect and, as we learn more, is always open for adjustment. The difference is so significant that it`s not even worth engaging you on.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:07 am
    As for abolishing government schools (free education for all being a founding principle of the country, by the way) all that would do would make education available only to those who could pay for it. Bravo! True colors right there.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:10 am
    Except for the inconvenient fact that back when the USA led the world in science, we were MORE, not less religious, so your explanation cannot possibly be correct. More religious? Yes. More religion in our laws and legislation and in our schools? NO! Not even close! That`s the drating problem. When did "In God We Trust" get put on our money? When did "Under God" get put into our pledge of allegiance? We may have been more religious as a population, but not in our schools or laws or as a government. And *that* is the problem. Nut job whackos trying to shove their whack job beliefs down EVERYONE`s throats. If they`d just live and believe what they want, send their kids to PRIVATE schools, like you suggest, and not try to pass laws affecting everyone, I`d support them 100%.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:26 am
    ...Being a rabid atheist doesn`t make you smarter, it makes you an egotistical condescending prick.



    I would say that being a rabid anything makes one a condescending prick. The difference is that rabid atheists can only be annoying by saying stuff and posting on the Internet. As you rightly point out, we`re far too few to affect legislation, and, other than overturning religious nuttery, I would hope that we prick atheists wouldn`t want to affect legislation. My ONLY problem with the religious is that right there. If religious folk would just keep their drating beliefs out of my government and off of MY life, they can live their`s however they want, IMHO--and furthermore, I`d actually support them! The problem with religious folk is the writing of legislation to govern ALL of us. Atheists are only a bunch of annoying pricks (and I surely can`t imagine why, having their bedrooms invaded by the morality policy, etc.). Which group`s worse, CrakrJack?
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:32 am
    CrakrJak:
    "Once again, atheists calling Christians `nuts` on IAB, wow I`m really shocked and surprised...
    Being a rabid atheist doesn`t make you smarter, it makes you an egotistical condescending prick."
    ----
    No, it does make us smarter. We were able to see through the brainwashing and move past it. The whole religious story is absurd and ridiculous. I mean seriously. A floating invisible sky wizard who magically created everything and grants wishes? Seriously? And we aren`t supposed to feel superior to folks who believe that? As I said to ollie, for a person to believe something as ludicrous as that, they either have to be dumb as a post or terribly brainwashed. There is really no other option. The worst part is, you guys believe this crap with zero proof. You only believe it because your parents (who told you about Santa) and the guy in the church (who collects money from you)told you it was true.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:32 am
    There is a reason that the majority of Atheists are of above average intelligence.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:34 am
    Except for the inconvenient fact that back when the USA led the world in science, we were MORE, not less religious, so your explanation cannot possibly be correct.

    When in history did the USA *ever* lead the world in science?
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 5:41 am
    "Jesus, why the hell do atheists believe they need to be such stuck up asshats?

    notorius98

    You get what you give.
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    Zed68 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 6:38 am
    "also the big bang and god are both creation theories"

    :facepalm:

    the big ban is a theory, god is a belief
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    madest Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 7:06 am
    Snakes and burning bushes never talked.
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    dirtysteve00 Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 7:13 am
    I don`t know that anyone is having a go at all Christians so much as they are at believers in the literal word.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 7:46 am
    dirtysteve00, to be sure, at least speaking for myself as a bastard, obnoxious atheist, I`m having a go at anyone who votes for discriminatory laws based on their religion, and, too, those who vote, based on their religion, what to teach in secular public schools, especially when that teaching is dictated, by law to be taught as scientific truth, and, too, where, sometimes, the law literally PREVENTS evolution and other actual science from being taught or even discussed (I won`t go into sourcing the sordid history of this topic as it`s so widely known that movies have been made about it).
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 8:53 am
    When in history did the USA *ever* lead the world in science?

    DA Manhatan Projectzz what is itz?!?!?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 8:53 am
    Internetz where did it comez fromz?!?!?!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 8:58 am
    Space racez da Russianz wonz it moon landingz was chopped!
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 9:45 am
    Crakr

    "only 15% of the people questioned believe in evolution w/o God`s influence" OK. so your point is that only 15% of americans understand evolutionary science while the rest say that God did it. That shocks you? When primitive people needed an answer to questions they couldn`t answer they made up a god to answer them. If you show a camera to a tribe living in the amazon they think it is sorcery stealing your soul.

    We aren`t as primitive anymore, but I think people still hold onto those ideas because the alternative is too scary. People want to believe they go to heaven when they die and they want to believe someone has a plan for us. They want to think that there is a reason for everything. I get that. But wishing doesn`t make it so.
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    June 3, 2012 at 9:48 am
    mon360

    "also the big bang and god are both creation theories"

    Absolutely. Can`t argue that. Here is the difference. One is a theory supported by mountains of scientific data and believed by almost all people who devote their lives to the study of the universe and actually understand things. The second is supported solely by an ancient book of tribal fairy tales like people living in whales and being strong because their hair is long.
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    June 3, 2012 at 9:55 am
    CrakrJak

    I have a serious question and I am not being condescending. Try to be objective. If you had lived your whole life till now and had never heard of God or Jesus or the Bible, and someone came up to you and started telling you things from the bible like dinosaurs and people lived together, or the world was created in 6 days, or 2 of every animal lived on a boat for a month, wouldn`t you think they were crazy?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 3, 2012 at 10:12 am
    How about a little thing like when I travel to Europe and when someone finds out I`m American I get that look. The one that says oh you`re one of those morons.

    Oh my God! An arrogant, smug, condescending European prick gave you "that look?" I`m SO, so sorry! Honestly, I had no idea! You must have been absolutely DEVASTATED! How did you manage not to slit your own throat and throw yourself off of a tall building?

    I can`t even begin to imagine how terrible that must have made you feel. Please accept my sincerest condolences.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 10:26 am
    OldOllie

    Hey I said it was a little thing. But it does remind me that I live in a country full of ignorant, backwards thinking, morons who whole heartedly believe in two thousand year old fairy tales. We are the special ed class of the world.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 3, 2012 at 10:29 am
    As for abolishing government schools (free education for all being a founding principle of the country, by the way) all that would do would make education available only to those who could pay for it. Bravo! True colors right there.
    Typical ignorant response from someone who gets all his information from biased liberal outlets. Conservatives do not want to end FUNDING for education; they want to give the money to parents so they can choose their kids` schools. If you want to send your kid to a unionized liberal indoctrination center, go right ahead. I honestly don`t give a dry fap. YOU`RE the one who wants everybody`s kids to be force-fed left-wing propaganda like global warming bull$#!+, the wonders of centrally planned utopian socialist wealth redistribution, not to mention crap like this:
    http://tinyurl.com/7yk2obr
    and this:
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 3, 2012 at 10:29 am
    ...as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted
    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/6t2ovtl
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 3, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    But it does remind me that I live in a country full of ignorant, backwards thinking, morons who whole heartedly believe in two thousand year old fairy tales. We are the special ed class of the world.
    Right, you`d be much better off living among forward-thinking progressive geniuses who believe you can work 30 hours a week for 40 weeks a year and retire at 50 with full pay and free health care for the rest of your life, and somehow somebody else is going to pay for all that, and if they don`t you`ll take to the streets and smash store windows, burn cars, and attack cops with sticks (go ahead, it`s not like they`ll shoot you for that).

    So why are you still here?
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    mamba Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    Religion would be great if it didn`t clash with science and politics...
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    Isn`t this the same country that thins the planet is only 2000 years old and a man with beard created EVERYTHING of all existence.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    @8BitHero

    Your country elects royalty from the word of god.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    Science and politics would be great if they would get their noses out of religion.
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