Isn`t It Ironic? [Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in Weird

Oh sweet irony!
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: actually you read too much into it. I`ve seen the proof of God, and there is no doubt in my mind that God is real. I know everyone can see the proof if they follow the procedures of the Holy Bible with sincerity and a goal to seek the Lord. The line you brought out was an effort to find a middle ground on the definition of what a fact is.

FYI I don`t live by dogma, but sadly i suspect something still binds you which you may be unaware of, afraid/terrified of, or despising. FYI "my work here is done" lol you didn`t do anything!
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: actually you read too much into it. I`ve seen the proof of God, and there is no doubt in my mind that God is real. I know everyone can see the proof if they follow the procedures of the Holy Bible with sincerity and a goal to seek the Lord. The line you brought out was an effort to find a middle ground on the definition of what a fact is.

FYI I don`t live by dogma, but sadly i suspect something still binds you which you may be unaware of, afraid/terrified of, or despising. FYI "my work here is done" lol you didn`t do anything!
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

Your circular reasoning is astounding, but as I said in one of my first posts, repetition does not make your point valid. But, in the end, you did finally slip with the following statement:

"Your opinion is God is not a fact, mine is that God is a fact."

By your own words, you finally admitted, however subconsciously, that your whole premise is based on opinion. Well done. You have taken your first steps towards sanity and breaking the chains of your own confining dogma. I applaud you.

My work here is done.

8-) LJ
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Male 1,243
jkfld: Again, Love is not just a feeling, but a way of life. You would be wrong to assume that you know about me because there are things I strongly dislike. For example, when someone senselessly hates others without reason. It`s not the person I hate, but the act. Some people are so lost in their way of life based on hatred (with or without their knowledge), that the only thing to do is hope and pray for them to find a change in their life because they reject all help. In case you haven`t noticed, some people make hatred their way of life. While I understand you think mockery is successful because it works on those who abuse, it`s more often abused used out of hate against people who aren`t abusing.

You assert that love will never work, which is absurd in itself, since love can cure many ailments of the world. While you may have given up on it, the majority of people in this world know that is what the world needs, and that is what works.
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Male 1,243
jkfld: mockery, whether it be towards a person or their beliefs, has no place in love, and therefore no place in the future. Correction, guidance, and urgings and pleas are all finer alternatives to mockery, which can be exercised quite well through love.
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Male 1,243
jkfld: I don`t live by dogma, and honestly, it sounds like that`s a lot of what you were talking about. Dogma isn`t good, but faith in God and loving one another is. Having love for one another, all people, not just members of a congregation or your friends and family, but ALL people is what will help the world. While it can be hard to do that towards those who live by hate, or towards someone who has killed a friend or family member, or done something like genocide or worse, it`s not our place to judge, but to strive to love one another. Being quick to forgive and slow to anger, and to help others see how learning from the author of Love, God, can help cure this world of so many things. Love is the key.
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Male 1,243
... as right to express their opinions as you do. Arguing the specifics is pointless. Your opinion is God is not a fact, mine is that God is a fact. I can understand your opinion, which you`re entitled to, and i`m not raging at you, but can you do the same?
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: Fact

a. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed

God exists, and it has been demonstrated by millions of people through faith in God. Many of them have changed the course of history, some have learned to communicate with God through the procedures of the Holy Bible. They`re old procedures but they still work.

b. A real occurrence; an event

God created all of mankind

c. Something believed to be true or real

God is true and real. (notice how this works with your belief response that you `quoted` and CAPITALISED.)



I understand it`s your opinion that God is not a fact, but by the definitions of a fact, God is a fact. Sure you may not like it, and i can understand why, but you`ll have to accept other people`s opinions that God is a fact, because they have just as much rig
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

"it`s not about the feeling, but more about a fact being something believed to be true or real."

Incorrect. `Belief` has nothing to do with whether or not something is a fact. The World English Dictionary defines the word, `fact,` thusly:

Fact(fækt)

— n
1. An event or thing -known- to have happened or existed.

Belief, opinion, conviction, faith, etc. do not come into play. You BELIEVE your god exists, you have faith that he exists, you do not have verifiable knowledge or proof - you do not KNOW - that he exists.

"God is real and true, meaning God is a fact."

Circular reasoning (also known as paradoxical thinking or circular logic), is a logical fallacy in which "the reasoner begins with what he or she is trying to end up with". Circular logic cannot prove a conclusion because, if the conclusion is doubted, the premise which leads to it will also be doubted.
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Male 766
don`t waste bandwidth . . . there ain`t no gods
why is the truth so hard to grasp? did evolution predispose mankind to superstition? it is sad that fiction writers of 2000 years ago can corrupt the most intelligent beings ever to have walked the earth!
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Male 1,243
jkfld: it`s not about the feeling, but more about a fact being something believed to be true or real. God is real and true, meaning God is a fact.

Love is much more than a feeling, it`s a way of life. If you think it`s not a worthy life to live that`s your opinion. Look around you, the world is as it is because the lack of love. Some people are not strong enough to live a life of love, others are.

Generally you can tell mockery, despising, or scorning through the names someone uses against another. It is quite easy to see in the recent correspondence.
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: Again, you`re entitled to your opinion. And again, you`ll get no where by mocking others, unless you want to quickly ruin your credibility.. but ultimately it`s your choice. Love is the way of the future, and it would be wise to learn more of it.
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

You attempt to redefine the English language and then accuse me of arrogance? My, we are just chock full of ourselves tonight, aren`t we? Your own hubris is astounding.

How can you preach of the future, yet still be so blatantly, and pathetically, mired in the past? How can you preach unity and love when the very creed you so desperately cling to is so divisive by its very nature? You`re hilarious!

While this has been fun in its own sad way, and as you so blatantly refuse to back up your assertions with any form of actual rebuttal, let alone actually addressing any of the myriad points I have made in my posts with any form of coherency other than petulant deflection and obstinately circular reasoning, I will leave you to your archaic dogma and obsolete superstition. You obviously deserve each other.

By the way, once again, your persecution complex is showing. Thought you`d want to know.

8-) LJ
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

Geesh, I have always hated the truncated 1000 character limit on this site.

"While it may not fall into your opinion of (what) a fact is ..."

Again, your ignorance is showing. My `opinion` of what the word, "fact," means has nothing to do with the conversation. It is not my definition, but a definition that has been agreed upon over the course of several hundred years of academia, by folks much more studied in the subject than either of us. You are simply, and incorrectly, substituting the word, `fact` for the words, `belief` or `opinion,` thereby attempting, in vain might I add, to lend authority to your misguided assertion.

You might want to revisit your 3rd-grade English course to learn the difference. Meanwhile, I hope your delusion keeps you warm at night, I really do. It sounds like it`s probably all you have. I, on the other hand, choose reality. It`s far more comforting.

8-) LJ
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: i find it disturbing that you feel the need to take a superior stance, and you`re signed up here as 2 age brackets above me.

It`s kind of sad that you speak of logic but are unaware that the way of the future is love. Everyone can see the world needs more love. God is love and the future in store for us is based on love, where all are equal, and none is greater than another. It will be when all of us brings our unique traits to the table, so that we can uniquely fit together with each other, sort of like a jigsaw puzzle, but creating a beautiful work as one. The future, based on love, is beautiful.

Rejecting others, putting them down, insulting them, this has no part in the future. If you feel this is delusional, well that is your opinion, which you are entitled to.
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

Your god is a myth, and that`s the truth. Someday, when you grow up and learn to take personal responsibility for your own actions, instead of relying on some rehashed tribal war deity to justify your existence, maybe, just maybe, you will also know it is a fact.

What divides us is simply the division between the rational and the delusional. Please, try not to insult our collective intelligence by attributing more drama to the subject than is actually necessary. I will remove the log from my eye (an allusion to Luke 6:42 - a supposed doctor who somehow related the account of Jesus` crucifixion without ever actually having been there) if you will pull your own head from out of the sand.

Too funny.

8-) LJ
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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: God is a fact, and that`s the truth. While it may not fall into your opinion of a fact is, in due time you will also know it is a fact.

Also, first take the log out of your eye before trying to say to someone they have a splinter in theirs. You say "Your kind" which divides us and does you no credit, because the reality is we are all human kind. Dividers among human kind are like the enemy of mankind, because divided we fall, so it`s best to avoid that type of talk.
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

"God is real, and the majority of the world understands this fact too."

You do realize the FACT that the majority of the world do not believe in YOUR god though, right?

"It is the position of some theists that their right to freedom OF religion is abridged when they are not allowed to violate the rationalists` right to freedom FROM religion."
- James T. Green

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." ~Seneca the Younger

"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do." ~D. Dale Gulledge

"Impiety, n.: Your irreverence toward my deity." ~Ambrose Bierce

I`m beginning to like you. You`re far too easy.

8-) LJ
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

You are adorable, you really are.

My retort has nothing to do with whether or not I "like" something you said. That would assume that I respect your opinion enough to assign an emotional value to it. Obviously, I don`t. I simply took umbrage with your misuse of the word, `fact,` instead of the word, `opinion,` which would be far more accurate. Your continued misuse of this word only serves to further demonstrate the obstinately petulant caliber of your ignorance.

Your kind does tend to bask in that ignorance, though. You cultivate it, you nurture it and you tend it, much like a garden. It rids you of the need for personal responsibility and self-reliance. Sadly, we who do not share your delusion are expected to respect that ignorance. Personally, I find it a waste of time, resources and energy. Religion is a detriment to society and humanity as a species. THAT is what I dislike.

8-) LJ
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Male 1,243
Smutleybutt: lol! better luck next time if you`re trying to get a raise!
Lord_Jereth: So I understand you didn`t like what i said. Thanks for enlightening us with your opinion. While I can understand you`re not aware of the fact now, a day is coming when you will be aware of it. God is real, and the majority of the world understands this fact too. You`re fully entitled to your opinion about this. BTW i wasn`t saying you hated God, i don`t even know you.. just that there are people who do hate God and do whatever they can to discredit God. God is holy, and you can learn so much about love from God.
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley

Further, your intimation that I "hate" god simply because I can find no reason to believe in `him` or to justify your appeal to authority was rather pathetic. It is hard to truly hate that which does not exist. I no more hate your mythological deity than I hate the Easter Bunny or Santa Clause. I simply do not credit their existence.

8-) LJ
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

Oh, and by the way, playing the martyr card because you can not refute logic head-on doesn`t help your credibility, either. Telling you that your belief in your chosen mythology is more than likely misguided at best does no equate to "mocking" you. Correcting your rather liberal use of the word `fact` does not equate to persecution. Get over yourself.

"Facts," by definition, require quantifiable, empirical proof as well as repeatable and independently verifiable objective results. Your assertion, that your arbitrarily chosen deity`s existence is `fact,` has neither. Therefore it is not a "fact," only your opinion. Further denial or re-assertion will not change this.

Got it this time?

8-) LJ
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

That you, yourself, don`t understand the irony inherent in your own misguided attempt at refutation is only further proof in favor of my prior premise. Well done.

Your assertion is not "fact," and never will be, no matter how many times you repeat it in a futile attempt to convince yourself, and everyone around you, that it is. Repetition will never equal authority or corroboration. It is simply your personal opinion. But then, you believers have never been very good with such ephemeral concepts as logic or verifiable proof when they contradict your mythology. Better to turn a blind eye and live in denial.

"Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:" - Jeremiah 5:21

"There are none so blind as those that will not see." - Matthew Henry

8-) LJ
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Male 1,377
TheGuySmiley in a nutshell:











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Male 1,243
Lord_Jereth: well like i said, some people want to ignore the fact. But God is real and that`s a fact. A lot of people who hate God have spoken against the truth and caused many to question the truth that God is real. If you accept the truth or not, it`s your choice. But you`ll get no where by mocking others that you don`t know, unless you want to quickly ruin your credibility..
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Male 284
There is absolutely no way that a christian can reconcile evolution into their faith/belief. If say they believe that a god put the first organisms on this planet and then evolution took place, then there was no Adam or Eve - therefore no original sin - therefore Jesus had no need to die. You are either a theist or an athesit and never the two shall meet.
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Male 12,138
[quote]@davymid. Many Christians support/believe in evolution, and have reconciled that with their faith/belief in God.

Your argument is invalid....[/quote]
Oh, I realise that fully, and in no way mean that as a slander against Christians in general. Just those mentalists who disbelieve in scientific realities such as evolution. And let`s face it, we`re not just talking about a few...
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Male 723
@TheGuySmiley:

Your assertion, no matter how strenuously you state it, no matter how often you attempt to reiterate it, does not necessarily make it a `fact.` Faith-based anecdotal `evidence` or personal revelation do not equate to `facts,` either. Using a demonstrably inaccurate, often incoherent, structurally contradictory and selectively edited ancient text with questionable authorship as your only basis for such assertions does not help your case, either.

But then, how can several hundred years of modern historical and scientific research ever stand up to a wildly branching, faith-based belief system lifted from the re-copied, mis/re-translated and often mis/re-interpreted writings of a six thousand year old, animal sacrificing, nomadic tribe of desert dwelling goat herders, right?

Your willful ignorance is offensive. Next!

8-) LJ
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Male 1,810
@davymid. Many Christians support/believe in evolution, and have reconciled that with their faith/belief in God.

Your argument is invalid....
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Male 399
[quote]More irony - Mods digging up features like this, to troll Christians/ignite flame wars, on weekends usually, while running ads on this site (and getting $$, I presume) for Christian singles dating sites. Lulz ? Irony ? Hypocritical ? Who knows, but I lol every time !![/quote]

you mean the google ads that are selected dynamically based on the viewers region and search preferences?
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Male 1,341
@Theguysmiley

I think you`re confused on what "fact" is...
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Male 1,243
God is real, and this is a fact. Ignoring that fact, does not change the fact. While many would like to ingore it, the truth and the fact of the future is:

`No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, `Know the LORD,` because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."` - Jeremiah 31:34

Many people will be surprised to see this is the truth and fact.
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Male 415
@ShamaziaV2: `objective` humour? Really?
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Female 3,726
@Mon, you`re a kid, so you get a pass.

@Freddy, REALLY?
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Male 12,138
I`m going to say just one word, and leave it at that. Evolution.

Facts are a bastard sometimes...
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Male 236
I`m really getting tired of I-A-B bashing religion so much.. for one thing i don`t see any equal bashing of atheism, but that wouldn`t be entertaining to me either. How about some objective humor and entertainment without alienating your users?

I don`t think it`s super hilarious to read comments bashing my religious beliefs. I don`t submit bible verses to I-A-B or pictures of religious figures. I`m just asking for objective humor, or less bashing from commenters who preach "letting people live how they choose".

It`s hypocrisy at it`s finest. Yes i know religion is full of hypocrites, but there`s no need for any of it on this site. There`s plenty of funny things on the internet.

/rant
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Female 6,381
Dammit, this is what I`ve been trying to get fundies to realize for years!
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Male 1,558
Again ignorance is christianity- or any religion
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Male 15,329
Religious leaders should be jailed for fraud.
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Male 3,310
Irony can basically be the opposite of what you expect. Like a religious organization campaigning for respecting facts and not ignoring them.
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Male 1,810
@djlazar. I lol`d !

More irony - Mods digging up features like this, to troll Christians/ignite flame wars, on weekends usually, while running ads on this site (and getting $$, I presume) for Christian singles dating sites. Lulz ? Irony ? Hypocritical ? Who knows, but I lol every time !!
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Male 186

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Male 554
should read..
"ignoring the facts doesn`t change your truth"
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Male 186
Oh, ha ha, I get it, preachy athiest being preachy again.
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Female 2,602
@mon: At least you`re a kid, so it`s in some ways understandable if you don`t get the irony in a religious group ignoring established facts yet. But freddy, unless you`re doing a kick-ass impression of 8Bit, really you ought to be embarrassed!
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Male 6,737
@mon360 - Really?
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Male 2,344
telling us that god exist does not make it a fact.

ignoring the mounds and mounds of scientifically sound evidence for evolution makes this sign ironic.

that is what they are getting at with this post.
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Male 11,739
I .... don`t ..... get ..... it .....
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Female 2,602
>>>Isn`t it ironic?<<<


Yes, it is.

And, in a related matter.
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Male 735
i don`t see the irony
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Female 8,043
Link: Isn`t It Ironic? [Pic] [Rate Link] - Oh sweet irony!
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