Hope You Didn`t Need That Kneecap, Hippie [Pic]

Submitted by: hole_rocks89 4 years ago

Chad"s last protest ever.
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Male 42
I can`t imagime that fat cop connected and even if he did, he`d be to winded for another go.
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Male 135
That is one riot cop who has run out of drats to give, even went to work dressed in his fine dining wear.
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Male 550
And 10 internetz go to MacGuffin.
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Male 1,737
He looks like he`s staring down the camera thinking about changing his target.
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Male 140
"Hope You Didn`t Need That Kneecap, Hippie [Pic]. Chad`s last protest ever"


begs the question...who calls the tune at iab
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Male 554
kneecap hell.... that`s a full on "i`m going to make you choke on your balls" swing !
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Male 7,585
Mcguffin, impressive.
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Male 459
Where was this?
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Female 734
I like it when the comments are far more entertaining than the post itself
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Male 14,330
@piperfawn

Do you like hard cheese?

THE PANTS THE PANTS ARE GREATER THAN ANY BELT!!! The shotgun tags along with the pants.....



@macguffin
Nice pic were you in Naughty Librarians 4???
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Male 5,005
patchgrabber i like hard womans.
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Male 5,005
McGuffin, naked you are unrecognizable :-)

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Male 5,811
Ha, I`m going to start calling MacGuffin "The Cannon", because she keeps shooting Piper down. XD
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacGuffin i didn`t want to be cheesy, i just try to not be false and to express my natural think...as you do showing your picture.
And for my last request...is ok also without wearing it[/quote]


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Male 714
didn`t see the pic before Mac, soz for doubting your karate expertise. i feel honoured you went to such lengths to prove to me you do have some karate expertise.
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Male 5,005
MacGuffin i didn`t want to be cheesy, i just try to not be false and to express my natural think...as you do showing your picture.
And for my last request...is ok also without wearing it ;-)
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Female 2,602
>>>Hmm i didn`t understood what you mean but in any case there is no need that something work between us...it just need that something work inside you XD.<<<


"Cheese", in the context I was using it, also means `corny` or `cliched`, pf. I was implying you were being insincere and cliched in your flattery. And of course it was a subtle reference to our discussion about the Italian`s love of cheese (the food) the other day.
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Female 2,602
[quote]didn`t see the pic before Mac, soz for doubting your karate expertise[/quote]

Thank you for your apology.
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Male 714
didn`t see the pic before Mac, soz for doubting your karate expertise
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Male 714
Are you being ironic? how can my opinion of you be a straw-man argument? i am giving you my impression of you based on my (i can accept that these my be incorrect) observations of your commenting. the fact that you fail to directly address these inferences i made but accuse me of making a straw-man argument is itself a straw-man argument ....
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Male 5,005
McGuffin we want a picture of you wearing it.
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Female 2,602
>>>hugely exaggerate life experiences to try to give your arguments credibility. For example your karate expertise.<<<




Here, som-tam, just for you:



Full size version available here, if you`re having trouble reading the message. Don`t bother apologising for your mistake - I know it`s beyond people like you.
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Male 17
Trained on the side handled and straight batons and have deployed them occassionally. (we don`t call them billy clubs). The caption is correct. Ol` hippy boy there is going to be in a cast.
We`re trained to aim for the shins, and non-vital organ areas. It`s amazing how people spontaneously reasses their actions when batons are deployed.
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Male 7,585
patchgrabber, you are right. At close [hand to hand] range, reaction time and physical ability win. whether you are the one with club/bat/etc or not.
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Male 5,811
MacG has a point about the ideal range for weapons, and som-tam she does make sense. Billy clubs are medium range weapons, and any martial art that incorporates weapons in training teaches this. I remember I had the same training when practicing defending against baseball bats.

Yusuk also has a good point that clubs aren`t useless IF you know how to use them. If I had one and a person tried to close the gap I`d jab them in the stomach/chest with it instead of swinging it. Not much telegraphing with a jab, and the closer they are the more likely you`d score a hit.
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Male 5,005
Hmm i didn`t understood what you mean but in any case there is no need that something work between us...it just need that something work inside you XD.
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Male 5,005
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacGuffin "I`m one of the few people to show their real face on here?"
Yes and since you have posted your new photo you are become my favorite sex dream. Please have some mercy![/quote]

It`d never work between us, pf. You like cheese too much. And I`m not talking dairy. ;)
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Male 5,005
MacGuffin "I`m one of the few people to show their real face on here?"
Yes and since you have posted your new photo you are become my favorite sex dream. Please have some mercy! ;-)
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Female 2,602
No, som-tam, it doesn`t *seem* like you were making a straw man argument. It actually *is* the case that you were making one - that`s what you call it when someone criticises a position that a person hasn`t actually taken. You did it again below.

As for your comments about me personally. If I really am so false, isn`t it weird then how I`m one of the few people to show their real face on here? Isn`t it also strange how whenever I`ve described my life experience on here I`ve included the less flattering bits (e.g. I mentioned a dodgy startup that I was foolish enough to work for a few years ago when they posted a viral advert on here). I guess that, in your distorted version of reality, that level of candour makes me less credible than some faceless keyboard warriors. Maybe some day I`ll be as brave as you, and will be confident enough in my opinions and experiences to hide them behind an alias and an avatar.
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Male 14,330
I don`t need no stinking Kung fooey I got the pants!!!

oh and a shotgun.... it helps!
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Male 714
ahaha... yes i suppose that could be misconstrued as a straw-man argument. Let me elaborate, i believe you are a tribal-lefty/anti-establishment type with a strong prejudice against the US. That is what compelled you to comment on this pic. You are also a fantasist IMO and hugely exaggerate life experiences to try to give your arguments credibility. For example your karate expertise.
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Male 1,008
"In real life?, as an adult? Yes - twice."

Good for you! I would have guessed much higher ;)
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Female 2,602
[quote]Macguffin trying to talk about something she has no real knowledge or experience of, again. how tiresome but all too predictable seeing as their is an `evil (possibly racist)US policeman` in the pic. [/quote]

People making straw man arguments on IAB, som-tam? You`re right - that *is* predictable. What`s wrong, could you not find anything that I actually said to criticise, and so had to make something up to disagree with?
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Male 714
Macguffin trying to talk about something she has no real knowledge or experience of, again. how tiresome but all too predictable seeing as their is an `evil (possibly racist)US policeman` in the pic.
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Male 766
A cop or security guy tells me "go home" . . . I go home . . . I need my knee caps.
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Female 2,602
[quote]@MacGuffin I think you are forgetting that the point of the billy club is not to kill anyone.[/quote]

Or get killed.
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacGuffin, have you ever actually been in a fight?[/quote]

In real life?, as an adult? Yes - twice.
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Male 658
MacGuffin, have you ever actually been in a fight?
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Male 687
he looks like he`s doing a rain dance
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Male 523
@MacGuffin I think you are forgetting that the point of the billy club is not to kill anyone.
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Male 1,008
Thank you Cobra! That is all I was trying to say. :)
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Male 1,008
And why would an "expert fighter" rely too much on a weapon? Wouldn`t that make him just a fighter? Bottom line is, The billy club has proven itself repeatedly in my experience to be very useful in a variety of situations and not once was it ever a hindrance or a liability.
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Male 7,585
yusuksomuch, no, the club is not a useless close range weapon. Nor is it the best. really any hard blunt object should work pretty well at close range.
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Female 2,602
A knife, on the other hand, is about the most dangerous weapon there is: moreso than a handgun even. Even in a scenario where a complete incompetent with a knife is facing an absolute expert, it`s unusual for the guy without the knife to avoid getting badly injured as a minimum.
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Female 2,602
[quote]You really don`t see? I`m talking about the weapon, not the person holding it, the weapon is not useless in close range, the person holding MAY be, but the weapon is VERY useful in close range if you know how to use it. [/quote]

Well, I wont labour the point, but as I`ve said my comments are about the expert fighters I witnessed being put to a disadvantage by being put in the scenario of having to use a club against other expert fighters. In all of the match-ups I saw, the guy with the club didn`t get a chance to connect even once. They used training dowels, where you could get hit with them full force and you still wouldn`t have felt much - but the fight would have been considered won if they`d made managed to make contact in any way.

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Male 1,008
"you are still harping on the users"

"no I`m talking about expert fighters"

!?

You really don`t see? I`m talking about the weapon, not the person holding it, the weapon is not useless in close range, the person holding MAY be, but the weapon is VERY useful in close range if you know how to use it.
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Female 2,602
[quote]you still are harping on the users not the weapon[/quote]

No, I`m talking about expert fighters, being handicapped by relying on a weapon that`s no use close in.

Look at the cop in this picture, for example. I mean, clearly he`s not a master of anything other than maybe doughnut-eating, but still, he`s out there, and betting his life that a piece of wood will give him an advantage. If he`s ever going to actually *hit* that protestor with the club he`s holding, he`s going to have to transfer his weight onto his leading leg to do so. Unfortunately, that leg is way out in front of him, completely undefended. It`s not even on the ground yet. All anyone would need to do to floor him as he was swinging forward, would be to `hook` that leading leg at the ankle using their own foot from the outside. All the power that the cop thought was in his arm (but is actually in his hips and front leg) would send him sprawling to the ground.
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Male 15
I think a nice wood shampoo would fix most hippies.
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Male 1,008
you still are harping on the users not the weapon
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Male 1,008
"usucksomuch, the person with the club could easily lose if they rely too heavily on the instrument and leave gaping holes in their defense."

Never said that couldn`t happen, my point is the billy club is a great close range weapon, and not useless in close range like was stated
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Female 2,602
Bottom line, most of what I learned is that merely being physically capable of hitting something hard doesn`t do you any good unless you also get the opportunity to do so. That`s why Ultimate Fighting always looks so `scrappy`, despite the fact that those guys are usually really top martial artists within their home styles – it all comes down to getting close in, and finishing the guy. If you stand back and throw haymakers (or billy clubs), you`ll just get closed down and pummelled every time.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Perhaps it was restraint on the club holders part that decided the match, unless you were full contact with billy clubs ?[/quote]

I first studied karate twenty-odd years ago. Back then the club I went to taught a style based on Shotokan. I did it for around 6-7 years, then had a break. When I went back, around about the turn of the millennium, the association had moved on to more of a MMA-influenced style, with ground work, basic and improvised weapons, and grappling included as part of the syllabus, as well as the punching and kicking that characterises traditional karate. The guy that runs it is a chief doorman for one of the large casinos in Scotland, and he learned a fair bit of what works in RL from that experience. He showed us all sorts of surprising stuff that I just wouldn`t have figured out instinctively or believed until I`d seen it done and done it for myself.

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Male 425
Next thing: The protester kicks the cop in the balls. I like to see that pic, too. :)
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Male 7,585
yusucksomuch, the person with the club could easily lose if they rely too heavily on the instrument and leave gaping holes in their defense.
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Male 390
I had no idea fat pigs could almost levitate.
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Male 1,008
"We tried it both ways in karate - between two people of equal skill, it was always the guy with the club that got took down and thumped. "

Perhaps it was restraint on the club holders part that decided the match, unless you were full contact with billy clubs ?
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Male 5,413
The policeman is like
"I have a weapon so I am better than you muwahahaha"
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Male 1,008
"fighting two people is easier than fighting one" , have you ever actually fought two people at once? My experience says it is quite a bit more challenging than one on one.
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Male 2,143
while he delivers that idiot wind up, kick his foot.
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Male 1,008
Sorry MacGuffin, my personal experience with this weapon has produced very different results than what you are saying.
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Female 2,602
We tried it both ways in karate - between two people of equal skill, it was always the guy with the club that got took down and thumped.

Other surprising results included it being easier to fight two people than one alone - because they get in each other`s way.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Your issue is with this particular user, not the weapon then.[/quote]

No, it`s with the weapon. It`s useless at close range against someone unarmed that knows what they`re doing. Even for the type of strike you`re talking about - because you need to change grip in a way that clearly telegraphs your intentions. If you`re holding it like a club, someone that knows what they`re doing will just step inside your clubbing range and hit you with their elbow or fist in a vital area. If you switch to holding it like a reinforcement of your arm for an elbow strike, not only will you hurt your own forearm bone even if you connect, but you`ll be vulnerable to having the legs taken out from under you whilst you`re twirling it like a majorette.

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Male 1,008
He isn`t trying for the back of the head at close range he is trying for a kneecap at arms length.
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Male 37,888

We don`t really know what started this scene, so I am going to go with the statistically most likely scenario.... the cop`s a prick.
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Male 1,008
"Yes, I have. Ever tried to elbow someone in the back of the head whilst you`re holding a billy club the way that guy is holding it?"

Your issue is with this particular user, not the weapon then.
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Male 6,737
That kneecap does look hugely inviting.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Ever take an elbow to the back of the head at close range? Imagine that with a billy club held tight up against the forearm. Trust me, a billy club is a very formidable weapon at close range if you know how to use it.[/quote]

Yes, I have. Ever tried to elbow someone in the back of the head whilst you`re holding a billy club the way that guy is holding it?
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Male 208
"I don`t think I`ve liked police doing this. They are all sadists."

Really? Because I JUST got home from the funeral of a fallen officer and co-worker who gave his life to save the life of a woman who was attacked by her boyfriend.

Link

Tell me he`s a drating sadist. Tell me he willingly put his life in danger every god damn day because he was a drating sadist.

Think before you speak, non-nice individual.Link
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Male 1,008
"Because they`ve got their hands full with a weapon that`s useless at close range"

Ever take an elbow to the back of the head at close range? Imagine that with a billy club held tight up against the forearm. Trust me, a billy club is a very formidable weapon at close range if you know how to use it.
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Female 2,602
It`s pretty easy to take down a guy with a billy club, but the way that guy is responding isn`t how you do it. We used to practice it at karate. All you need to do is get in close enough that they can`t use it, and hit them decisively somewhere vital like the throat, solar plexus or nose whilst they`re at a disadvantage. You`ve got plenty of time to step in whilst they wind their arm back to gain momentum. Because they`ve got their hands full with a weapon that`s useless at close range, but that their brain tells them not to let go of, it`s ironically easier to floor someone carrying one of those than it is to floor an unarmed person.
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Male 382
They are wearing masks, treat them as terrorists. Them maybe thes punks will get a good dose of reality. More tasers and handcuffs please. Then dump them in a transport truck and haul them 300 miles out of town. Leave them there with only 1 bobby pin.
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Male 1,497
I don`t think I`ve liked police doing this. They are all sadists.
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Male 1,008
Pretty spry for a bigger guy, good for him.
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Male 3,364
That`s not a hippie. that`s an anarchist. Huge difference.
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Female 353
Link: Hope You Didn`t Need That Kneecap, Hippie [Pic] [Rate Link] - Chad`s last protest ever.
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