High School Graduate Denied Diploma At Cerimony

Submitted by: fancylad 4 years ago

AND the school"s principal is demanding 20 hours of community service to get the diploma. What did he do? Not Florida!
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Male 2,031
@Neagle, in the Carlin quote, please replace "big wealthy business interests" with "teachers union".
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Male 2,031
Now the boy suffers because the momma has principals. Just do the service. Maybe in a library? Then he can read some morez.
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Male 261
Where is the video of the actual incident? You know everyone had their cell phones out in full force that day. I hate sensationalized media coverage that only covers people`s opinions without covering the facts at the center of it all.

By the way, funniest part - 1:06 I almost cried `cause that was so funny.
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Male 210
I knew Fancy posted this before I saw his name. I wonder if Fancy spelled it "Cerimony" in his HS if they`d let him graduate.
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Female 128
That`s really out of order.

Also, well done to him for graduating high school, only just being able to read...
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Male 273
oh and *ceremony.
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Male 273
wow. everyone in my graduating class would be in trouble if that was the case.
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Male 406
@neagle nice quote.
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Male 143
Cheering? It`s a celebration and you can`t cheer loudly? I don`t get it
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Male 1,404
George Carlin on American education: “It will never, ever, ever be fixed. It won’t get any better. Don’t look for it....The owners of this country don’t want that... The real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all important decisions. They own you. They own everything... They own all the big media companies. So they control just about all the news and information you get to hear.... They want more for themselves, and less for everybody else.... They don’t want well informed, well educated people... They want obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork...”
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Male 15,832
@LordJim are you really that f***ing stupid that I have to explain this to you? I`ve been to a number of graduation ceremonies over the years, and yes, black people tend to whoop and holler much, much more than white, Hispanic, or Asian people do when one of them graduates.

Also, I don`t know about where you come from, but here we have this thing called affirmative action that gives preferential treatment to blacks over whites and Asians even if their grades and test scores are lower.
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Male 1,810
Is cerimony related to alimony ?? Just askin`
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Male 2,345
SUE THE poo OUT OF THAT SCHOOL and the principle. such bullpoo.
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Male 1,931
That`s drated up.

On a side note, how was he able to graduate without being able to read something aloud?
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Male 4
It`s worth looking into the culture of the NCAA and college sports, that allows for athletes to be exploited for their talents while not getting anything in return.

Perhaps he`s not qualified to attend college, where plenty of others out there are. But who`s opening the door for him to do so? Certainly not the high school, regardless of his academic ability.

So long as universities have a major financial incentive to recruit football players in what basically amounts to a de facto farm system for the NFL, this will continue to play out in America.
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Male 1,610
Well, tbf I knew a couple football players who graduated HS and couldn`t read at all. Actually one didn`t graduate because he quit the football team his senior year.
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Male 6,227
It would be a lot easier to cheer this kid on if he could demonstrate a reading ability higher than the 5th-grade level. Granted, not everyone`s going to be a linguistic wizard, but if this kid`s entering college, would, say, an 8th-grade reading ability be too much to ask?
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Male 1,950
lol @ 1:03 to 1:13. Awwwww, this HS graduate can *almost* read!
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Male 1,471
[quote]So, do you imagine any of that is likely to happen, unless the wronged party sues?[/quote]

Probably not, no. But that`s ALSO not what i suggested. My suggestion was, and i quote: "In short, sue the man, not the school!"

My problem is not with him taking legal action. It`s with him taking legal action against a public institution, and in the process punishing hundreds of innocent people, instead of against the man responsible.

If there`s some good reason why that`s not a good idea (other than profit), i`ll shut up.
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Male 423
Highschool is a joke and a half these days, they cheered for everybody at my grad. I dont see the problem with showing some good emotion for these kids success.

For the people rippin on him cause he isnt a great reader, you are all foolish.
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Male 11,740
My 20 hours of community service would be going around the school posting signs about the stupidity of the administration. I totally understand why they wouldn`t answer calls, they know they`re being douchebag morons and don`t want to try to dig themselves out of the crater they`re in now. I hope a lawyer takes the case pro bono and destroys these idiots.
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Male 3,909
Not sure if spelled "cerimony" wrong on purpose or as stoopid as this kid is...
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Male 14
Should have said withholding diploma for not learning how to read.
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Male 5,811
T-T-Today Junior!

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Male 14,330
I be goin to collamadge ta playz da footballz dey even payin mez fo it!!(The biggest flaw in scolarships athletics over intelligence.)
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Male 7,350
8BitHero-"Why do you need to go to college to play football?"

Football players who have been out of high school for at least three years are eligible for the NFL draft. The rules do not state that a player must attend college, but virtually all of the players selected in the NFL draft played college football.
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Male 3,894
He had way too much trouble reading that letter.

Rick S makes a good point--these reporters were negligent in not mentioning that fact. However, it`s not nearly as controversial when you tell the whole story.
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Male 76
Perhaps he shouldn`t be allowed to graduate. Not due to the conduct of his parents and peers at graduation, but because he doesn`t seem to have more than an eighth-grade reading level.
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Male 5,413
Such pathetic BS. Why do you need to go to college to play football? You don`t have to be smart to do that, but if he wants to go college let him.
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Male 3,314
It says in the letter, which is to his parents, not him,

"I understand that I am responsible for the conduct of myself, child and guest. Any disruptive behavior will result in my child`s diploma being held, and an additional 20 hours of" community service. (I couldn`t read that last part, but based on the situation, I think we all know that`s what it says.)

So, it looks like a letter was sent home explaining what the rules were for graduation, and the rules were broken. The only issue I have with it is that there`s no way that the principal can know if it the parents or their guests were involved. Assuming the young man was well behaved, the family can (and should) say that they, and their guests were cheering at an acceptable level based on other cheering for other graduates. It may have been his friends who were cheering too loud, but that`s not covered by this rule.
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Female 2,602
[quote]That`s not even close to what i meant. Of course he shouldn`t do community service for something that silly. And yes of course that principal should be fired and punished, maybe even sued, for grossly overstepping his authority, no question![/quote]

So, do you imagine any of that is likely to happen, unless the wronged party sues?
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Male 7,350
Kain1-"grossly overstepping his authority"

Sorry, as administrator of that school, he DOES have the authority to withhold the diploma.

The sad thing is that this individual, who was fawned over and probably coasted through all of his classes because we was a `Fooseball Hewo`, will probably squander the education opportunity the college offers him, will probably NOT make it to the NFL and will eventually not accomplish anything, and will be a drunk and/or drugged out individual wondering `what happened? cuz I was a Football Playah!`.
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Male 2,988
"On the other hand, he could BARELY read those 2 lines of the letter they sent him. He shouldn`t be graduating at all."

Not everyone is great at reading out loud. I had a big problem with it for years and eventually overcame it with enough practice. But that by no way means he isn`t a smart kid. Just means he is nervous, and if I had a news camera in my face I would be too.
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Male 2,552
1. Hire a lawyer.
2. Sue the school.
3. ????
4. Profit.
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Male 3,578
the fuuny part you cant "hold" a Diploma
ya they can hold the peace of paper that not one will ever ask to see.
one you graduated thats that
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Male 1,471
MacGuffin: [quote] If it were me, I`d call a good lawyer about this "community service" demand. And I`d make sure they were expensive - because the school board would be paying his bill.[/quote]

That`s not even close to what i meant. Of course he shouldn`t do community service for something that silly. And yes of course that principal should be fired and punished, maybe even sued, for grossly overstepping his authority, no question! However, suing the school board (and thereby taking money directly out of the schools budget) would be punishing the current and future students for something they had no part in, and simultaneously throwing thousands, if not millions, of tax payer dollars away on lawyer fees!

In short, sue the man, not the school!
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Male 7,350
The graduation ticket had the disclaimer "I understand I am responsible for the condut of myself, child and guest...disruptive behavior will result in my child`s diploma being held..."

MacGuffin-"It`s worrying that people like him can actually get into College/University."

Hey, he`s HIGHLY QUALIFIED to attend college...he`s a FOOTBALL PLAYER. He`s so qualified that he will even qualify for people to take his classes for him.

MacGuffin-"abuse citizens` legal rights"

This kid has the `legal right` to be awarded a diploma when he can barely read? Or his parents have a legal right to act like idiots no matter what they were warned, IN WRITING, what would happen. (what am I saying..I doubt his family and friends could read either.)

Although, I can understand their cheering when he is awarded his `Class Mediocritorian certificate of showing up..usually` after seven long years of high-school.
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Male 7,123
How tightly monitored and inspected are US High Schools? In the UK we have OFSTED, who are a bunch of bastards but who do keep you on your toes. Subject to the whims of their political masters.
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Female 3,727
"Cerimony"?
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Male 52
It should be illegal (and for all I know he would have a claim) for the school to refuse him his diploma/matriculation into college for another person`s actions.

On the other hand, he could BARELY read those 2 lines of the letter they sent him. He shouldn`t be graduating at all.

I`m actually not sure which upsets me more.
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Female 2,602
[quote]What a good idea @MacGuffin, make the legal bill as big as possible so he can waste as much tax payer money as he can...

Petey, the "don`t sue people"-panda frowns upon you! [/quote]

So, do you think then that people should just suck it up and let public employees crap all over them whenever those officials overstep their authority and abuse citizens` legal rights? That anyone whose paycheck is funded by the taxpayer should get a free pass to behave in any way they like, merely because suing them would `only cost the taxpayer money`? What a stupid idea. I`d hate to live in a country where merely demanding your basic human rights (such as the right not to be awarded community service by anyone other than a court of law) was somehow considered to be bad for society.
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Male 1,526
I cringed when I saw him read.
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Male 7,123
xiquiripat

Given that we haven`t seen the text he was reading it`s tough to call. But I`d say that was closer to a seven year old level.
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Male 2,422
This guy is proof that American education isn`t worth jack poo. He reads like a five year old.
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Male 7,123
OldOllie,

And even as I typed that you do it again.

We all know why, do we? Because he plays football quite well? Or because he`s black? Or possibly because some colleges very often don`t give a monkey`s about actual ability?

Which? Spit it out, you are not alone.
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Male 2,737
He can barely read.He`s graduating?
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Male 1,471
What a good idea @MacGuffin, make the legal bill as big as possible so he can waste as much tax payer money as he can...

Petey, the "don`t sue people"-panda frowns upon you!

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Male 7,123
OldOllie,

`a certain race`

Man up, if you think black people are inferior just say so. Stop being so mealy-mouthed and weasely about it.
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Male 15,832
The sad part is that this semi-literate dolt is going to college. Of course he`ll get in, and we all know why.
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Female 115
I`m ashamed to live in Ohio right now. *facepalm*
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Male 7,123
Thdot

No. Didn`t you understand the story?

He does seem to have only basic literacy skills, but they granted him a diploma, for what it is worth.

This a stupid sanction. What if there is someone we don`t like? Next year get a bunch of people to whoop and cheer so they get community service?

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Male 15,832
Anyone who has attended a graduation ceremony knows that there are people who simply refuse to comport themselves with any semblance of dignity. It`s also impossible to deny the fact that among that group, people of a certain race are disproportionately represented.
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Male 37,889

"The Man" will do anything to keep a black kid from graduating!


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Male 4,793
So he probably shouldnt waste his time with college anyway, but that principal is also a douchenugget for doing this.
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Male 671
Was the caption writer also denied his diploma?
"cerimony"? really?
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Male 237
What`s funny is the students were probably told that this is considered a serious ceremony and excessive cheering would not be tolerated.

I know before my graduation we were specifically told that if you waved or made any other gesture besides walking across the stage to get our diploma that we would have to come back to the school and explain to our principal why we should get it.

I also agree that if he can`t read the letter saying why he isn`t getting his diploma, he probably shouldn`t be getting it.
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Male 379
@botfly

you took the words right out of my mouth. this situation is kinda bs, but really though... if you can even read the word "excessive" you should probably spend another year or two in high school. but on the other hand... i mean, he IS the second leading tackler on his football team. he`s goin pro for sure. who needs to read at that point?
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Male 209
Sucks to be proud, I guess. Oof.
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Female 2,602
[quote]The guy can barely read. Apparently he has not merited recieving a diploma.[/quote]

Yep, he did sound a bit thick. It`s worrying that people like him can actually get into College/University.
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Female 2,602
Is every petty bureaucrat in the US labouring under the delusion that they have the personal right to hand out legal punishments that are reserved for courts? If it were me, I`d call a good lawyer about this "community service" demand. And I`d make sure they were expensive - because the school board would be paying his bill.
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Male 616
The guy can barely read. Apparently he has not merited recieving a diploma.
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Male 658
Maybe he is not getting his diploma because he cannot read the word "excessive".
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Male 19,865
Link: High School Graduate Denied Diploma At Cerimony [Rate Link] - AND the school`s principal is demanding 20 hours of community service to get the diploma. What did he do? Not Florida!
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