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Date: 06/10/12 04:15 PM

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  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
    8044 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Link: Atheists Banned From Public Office - These 7 States ban atheists from holding public office. Nuts? Unconstitutional? Just Plain Wrong?
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
    677 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    Lol, America.
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    smaus Male 30-39
    715 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    this is and outrage, oh wait, I don`t care at all
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    I DONT WANT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE, Canada, will you adopt me, pleeeeease?
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    Johnnyk123 Male 18-29
    179 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    I like how it`s all the obvious ones.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    Wrong and unconstitutional.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
    926 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    Seems to me like a violation of the Establishment Clause. If you can`t discriminate against others for their religious beliefs, those beliefs include both beliefs in the affirmative, and the negative.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    That country is royally drated.
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    keyrow Female 18-29
    18 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    And how can they prove if you`re an atheist or not? I mean, if you apply to the jobs while wearing a crucifix, a hijab, or a kippah, then it`s ok?
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
    5316 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    nuts
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    Fantom2993 Male 18-29
    342 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    OddNumber Male 18-29
    201 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    bald-faced lie to get in, be best person in office since ever, somethingsomethingsomtething, pull a fast one and get fire, show how dumb this rule is
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    madest Male 40-49
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    June 10, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    No. This is incorrect. My home state of MD got the Supreme Court smack down in 1961. A little case called Torasco v Watkins. Torasco was picked to be a notary but refused to declare a belief in God and didn`t get the job as a result. He sued the state but the district court case was turned away. He took it to MD appellate court and lost. The judges argued he wasn`t compelled to take the job. So he took it to the Supremes where they gave MD the smack-down by saying: The fact, however, that a person is not compelled to hold public office cannot possibly be an excuse for barring him from office by state-imposed criteria forbidden by the Constitution.

    So that case put an end to this list. Not everything you read is true.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    Banning those who aren`t gullible. Only idiots allowed in office.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    Doesn`t matter what the states say, the federal Constitution has already spoken. Article VI read it and weep.

    Moot point.
  16. Profile photo of DrProfessor
    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    This would be relatively easy to overturn--it`s religious discrimination, and I don`t think any court would be able to find in favor of the states. At least, not in this day and age.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    June 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Wrong, nuts & unconstitutional.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    June 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    I`m guessing that these are just weird old laws that are still on the books but are not reinforced.
  19. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    V Exactly. There are ridiculous state laws everywhere when you look hard enough. I think Maine has one about not being able to eat Blueberry Pie Ala mode in summer or something.

    They say the states are the labs of our democracy, well sometimes they become the meth labs of our democracy. *Headdesk*
  20. Profile photo of Cartunze
    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    What an unnecessary law. The voters won`t put an outed atheist in office. Politicians are still closet atheists. You might suspect that some of them are atheists but they will never admit it.
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    PinkHomicide Female 18-29
    355 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    This is not correct per se, Pennsylvania does not forbid an Atheist from holding office. but they do offer state constitutional protection for religious types that is not given to atheists.
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    LadyIsis Female 18-29
    403 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Ummm, I can`t speak for the other states,but the PA law just says there won`t be discrimination of religion for those running for office....
  23. Profile photo of TheGuySmiley
    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
    1243 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    Look at it this way.

    Proverbs 28:18 A nation without God`s guidance is a nation without order. Happy are those who keep God`s law!
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    jadedtortois Female 18-29
    779 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    this survey from the UofM (Minnesota) ellaborates on prejudice aganst atheists in America

    UofM survey
  25. Profile photo of jamie76
    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    this is your republican base at work.

    republicans strive to control others and the way they live rather allowing people to live they way they chose.

    from marriage, to work to who can hold office, indeed a republican run country in which they hold office unopposed would look so much like 1984 that anyone would be able to write that book had it not already been written.

    and btw democrats are pussies and do-nothings.

    however, they at least leave people alone for the most part when it comes to the way a person wants to live.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    TheGuySmiley

    says the person from a country with almost as many atheist as religious people. seems to me it is working pretty well in your country.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    This post is just one big load of bullpoo. Move along people. Nothing to see here.
  28. Profile photo of eddy666
    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm
    @markust123 You would be correct.
  29. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 10, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    We are so stupid we deserve to be wiped out.
    I wouldn`t mind if the ones replacing us were better, but they`re even worse. Allah akbar!
  30. Profile photo of KnitGnosis
    KnitGnosis Male 18-29
    18 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm
    This got me curious (since Im in PA) so I looked it up:

    No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth.

    Doesnt bar aetheist from holding office, only says you can`t be disqualified from holding office for your religious beliefs. Don`t trust everything you see on the internet...
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    thosbeama74 Male 30-39
    17 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    I wish all you atheists would leave my Country and then you would find out that every other Country never will match up to the United States! Euro Douche Bags. Atheists, You`re always complaining about something.
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
    1582 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    Unconstitutional. Our country was founded on the idea of separation of church and state. No one should be ever be turned down for their religious beliefs. Not a Christian, not a Muslim, not an Atheist, nor a Scientologist.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    @KnotGnosis: good for you. PA did`nt pass the smell test, but you forgot
    Maryland:

    "That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution."

    Arkansas:

    "No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."

    Mississippi:

    "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."

    South Carolina:

    "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."

    Tennessee:

    "No person who denies the being o
  34. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    (cont) Tennessee:

    "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."

    Texas:

    "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

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    hi2pi Male 30-39
    736 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    This has got to be a joke, right?
  36. Profile photo of kja1995
    kja1995 Male 18-29
    124 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    HOLY poo is this for real?!?
    Packing my bags to Oman!
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    T3hHippie Male 18-29
    166 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm
    Come to Canada! We still have some religious issues to work out but if enough of us come together, we may finally become the greatest country ever!
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    Mad_Gremlyn Male 30-39
    512 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm
    @thosbeama74, it`s not your country and you have no right to expel anyone from the U.S. You don`t come across as a very bright person so I`ll assume you simply have no grasp or understanding of how anti-American your statement is.
  39. Profile photo of eddy666
    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    @jtrebowski It`s really irrelevant. It doesn`t matter at all.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    June 10, 2012 at 9:09 pm
    T3hHippie is right... before it`s too late!
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
    2422 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:12 pm
    Away down south in Dixie!
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
    1058 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Now if we can just ban the jews
  43. Profile photo of DrProfessor
    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    June 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Let me restate this: These laws are completely irrelevant. If someone were to try and prevent another person from getting into office on the grounds of their atheism, they would take it to court. The court would rule the law unconstitutional, because it totally is.

    There is no problem here.
  44. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    Eddy666: "@jtrebowski It`s really irrelevant. It doesn`t matter at all."

    Yes it is. Look at how religion dominates our presidential elections.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2106 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    lukforv123-you`d go to hell if there was one.Now the jews know who you are,good luck with that. As for you religious idiots out there...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Jesus christ you look soooo stupid. Just like republicans!
  46. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    Dr. professor: "There is no problem here."

    Are you denying that public sentiment, espicially in conservative states, don`t echo these laws?
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Almost unbelievable in this age. What makes the difference in Canada is that this kind of assinine nonsense would be quashed at the federal level. Individual states are entitled to far too much law-making power for their own good in America.
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
    625 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    Nuts? Unconstitutional? Just Plain Wrong? D. All of the above

    The Washington Post wrote in 2009:
    Arkansas is one of half a dozen states that still exclude non-believers from public office. Article 19 Section 1 of the 1874 Arkansas Constitution states that "No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any court.

    Sad, just sad...
  49. Profile photo of eddy666
    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 10:08 pm
    @jtrebowski Religion only dominates the presidential elections because it makes for good media. Religion is never mentioned at the state level. The laws don`t discriminate because they don`t do anything. Every state has laws like these - laws that are pointless garbage that just needs to be taken out.
  50. Profile photo of eddy666
    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    @carmium Actually, they aren`t offered enough. This is one of the cases where states shouldn`t have power though. Oh wait, what do you know? The states don`t have this kind of power! Please don`t make comments that aren`t true.
  51. Profile photo of jamie76
    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    June 10, 2012 at 10:40 pm
    thosbeama74

    your very words endanger the idea that this country, the US is better than all the rest. How so you scream? because, if we throw out those that we do no agree with we are nothing more than the likes of Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong Il and his little bastard son.

    this is America, it was founded in response to people just like YOU that tried to force others to live their way and only their way.

    what makes America amazing is that ALL WALKS of life are here, working together, combining strengths and overcoming weaknesses but this only happens if we respect each other and each others differences.

    it is people like you that should leave but I would never ask or tell you too because even you, a lowly bigot is welcome in the US.
  52. Profile photo of soundman655
    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    June 10, 2012 at 10:52 pm
    The stinking idiots that are afraid of the dark are winning!! Seperating church from state- Fat chance!
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    June 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    what? texas? i must fix this. good thing i live in the capitol. I`ll just put the change in an amendment hidden deep inside of a pro gun law so i can get it passed. easy enough.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    June 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm
    5 of them don`t surprise me at all. I`d expect a little better from PA and MD. Oh well.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    June 10, 2012 at 11:58 pm
    Just wrong...
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    bloomi Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 1:18 am
    As much as this is plain wrong, given the high number of Christians in places like Texas the chances of an atheist being elected is so slim it doesn`t really matter.

    If you ask me all religion should be abolished as a matter of course, since it only causes problems, but that`s a different conversation.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 1:27 am
    @bloomi: Doesn`t really matter ?!.. It`s flat out diskrimination on the basis of religious belief. It doesn`t matter how few people it affects, it`s still unconstitutional..
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    wickedjester Male 30-39
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    June 11, 2012 at 2:05 am
    hhmmmm now they just need churches to hand out membership cards so they know who is what cause any dime store sells crosses on chains and wham I`m a christian. (faith in humanity lost)
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    June 11, 2012 at 3:05 am
    AKA the retards only rule.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
    766 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 3:39 am
    I thought you `mercans had a separation of church and state? This is the sort of thing they do in the Middle east! Why is there no hue and cry from all the other religions? I smell money for lawyers . . .
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    June 11, 2012 at 4:17 am
    So it`s fine to admit to butt-love, being allowed to stop in a country illegally because it might offend your human rights, cost your country millions but still get huge bonuses because you ran a bank poorly but dare to say you don`t believe in something as provable as the tooth-fairy and you`re stoned to death.
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    kylezor Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 4:21 am
    this is not true. i`m from Texas and there is a weird thing that says you must believe in a supreme being of some sort to hold office but it is not enforced at all. i agree we need to take separation of church and state more seriously but the Christians just have so much damn political power here.
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    Theyoyoguy Male 18-29
    462 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 4:30 am
    No sane atheist politician is going to admit that they are anyhow
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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
    675 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 4:39 am
    Somehow I`m not surprised that Mississippi is on this list. With all the backwater, racist, bible beating "the South shall rise again" bulls#it that originates from there... yeah, I see how that made it into their laws.
  65. Profile photo of nayrbarr
    nayrbarr Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 4:54 am
    @kylezor So what you`re saying is that it *is* technically true. It doesn`t matter if it`s enforced, it matters that the law exists. Furthermore, it can be enforced at any time which is a serious threat to atheists in office.
  66. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 5:02 am
    i`m from Texas and there is a weird thing that says you must believe in a supreme being of some sort to hold office but it is not enforced at all.

    So am I but the phrase should be erased from the constitution nonetheless.
  67. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 5:09 am
    @nayrbarr

    Actually the state is not allowed to enforce the ban. The Supreme Court struck down the use of religious tests in 1961. Which ultimately means that this infographic wholly misleading. The language IS there the but state is not allowed to enforce it.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
    735 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 6:49 am
    oh good, i thought oklahoma was gonna be on there...not that it matters...
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    June 11, 2012 at 7:50 am
    So `turn the other cheek` no longer has any credence to Christians, then?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 11, 2012 at 8:27 am
    Sounds like a case of the left hand not knowing what the right one is doing. Why is it so difficult for those state laws to be struck down and removed then? Why is it so difficult to do that?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 11, 2012 at 8:35 am

    patch - a politician can`t vote in favor of striking down those laws. If he did, at the next election his oposition would run ads that he was "Against God". They`re too concerned with their re-elections.
  72. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    June 11, 2012 at 8:37 am
    @Gerry: I understand. But why aren`t these laws that can`t be legally enforced immediately struck down once the ruling of the SC is made?
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    Byfield Male 18-29
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    June 11, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Go to wikipedia, it explains this. for example, the wikipedia entry for Article 1, Section 4 of the Texan Constitution (its on the page for the constitution) says that it not only violates the American constitution in two ways, but also is unenforcable and so is not used in modern times.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7046 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Obviously these fly in the face of the US constitution and are unenforceable. But they are still on the books.

    Of course you don`t have to be a christian, just acknowledge a Supreme Being. So Satanists are fine. The Boy Scouts have a similar rule, but they actually enforce it.
  75. Profile photo of thosbeama74
    thosbeama74 Male 30-39
    17 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    @Mad_Gremlyn, it is my Country I have fought for it and I personally don`t care how "Anti-American" I sound to you or European and Canadian people think. My problem is that other people can say whatever they want about the Country I love and will lay down my life for and it`s "ok"... But when I have an opinion and speak my mind about the trash that comes out of their mouths I get reprimanded. That`s the problem.. cow tailing to these people, you`re weak minded and have no backbone and should not be in "MY" Country and Country that my forefathers fought to the death for.
  76. Profile photo of eddy666
    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    @Cajun247 A lot of southern states have more important things they need to take out anyways.
  77. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    June 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    Touche eddy666.

    Touche
  78. Profile photo of Mad_Gremlyn
    Mad_Gremlyn Male 30-39
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    June 11, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    @thosbeama74: Reprimanded? How so? Or, in reality it is that sometimes when you spew your hate filled bile, people call you on it? No one is hauling you off somewhere, you aren`t being "reprimanded" in any dire way. When people respond to your drek, that`s a conversation or a debate, perhaps. Again, it`s not your country to kick anyone out of, no matter if you`ve enlist or not. Further more, this redneck mentality that you get to decide if someone can be in America is the garbage that you are spewing and should be challenged. If you want a one way conversation, you`re in the wrong place. And that`s what seems to have you riled, that you can`t just puke your hate and go unchallenged. Turn off Sean Hannity and learn something about the founding of this country. I don`t care if you got live your fantasy of legalized homicide, you`re not defending anyone`s rights as written by the founders and that very obvious. Flame out, I`m done with your ignorant redneck garbage.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    June 11, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    For some reason, this whole thread made me lol....
  80. Profile photo of thosbeama74
    thosbeama74 Male 30-39
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    June 12, 2012 at 5:26 am
    Mad_Gremlyn, Oh so I`m a redneck because I enlisted..I`m just a bunkin and everything you say is just so enlightened and such a Gem and everything I say is puke.. Well everything I read on these sites are verbal vomit, and yes I`m getting reprimanded.. How dare I believe in a higher power how dare I believe in "MY" Country. It`s people like you that I have problem with, this Country is the best in the World. This country gives you the opportunity write and say whatever you want. It`s people like you that have ruined what the founding fathers have left Europe. I never physically pushed these people out of this Country. I`m saying if you don`t like then get out.. I`m tired of people like you who complaining all the time and wanting to turn this country into and socialist police state. It`s not hate speech, I just hate you!!
  81. Profile photo of PinkRhoid
    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    June 12, 2012 at 7:31 am
    Enlisted military family here, thanks for your service but serving doesn`t give you more sway on what you think is right and wrong. You do come across as a hateful, narrow-minded bigot. You are free to speak your mind but only a fool speaks without tact and dignity. If you don`t like it, get out? No, I think if I don`t like it I`ll vote to change it instead. It`s not hate speech, I just hate you? Really? Good luck to you.
  82. Profile photo of Idlerlee2
    Idlerlee2 Male 18-29
    135 posts
    June 12, 2012 at 8:31 am
    @thosbeama74 - Sorry to break your bubble but:

    USA isn`t the best country in the world. And there are thousands of factors, but I`ll just list a few very simple ones:

    You still connect some mythical creature in the clouds to your public offices. Mixing religion and politics like it`s not a big thing.

    Most nations in the world adhere to a system where you can indeed write and say what you want. Not all, by no means, but most.

    Iceland is the most peaceful and democratic nation on the planet. USA ranks a whooping #88. Infact: All of Europe is considered more democractic, and more peaceful, than the USA. (source: www.visionofhumanity.org /wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ 2012-Global-Peace-Index-Report.pdf)

    Democracy origins from ancient Greece. It is by no means an heritage given to Europe by the funding fathers.

    Most Americans think Europe is a country, and couldn`t place Norway on the map if they had a gun to their temple.

    So hey
  83. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    June 12, 2012 at 9:01 am
    It`s not hate speech, I just hate you!!

  84. Profile photo of Chirpe
    Chirpe Male 18-29
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    June 13, 2012 at 1:29 am
    @Idlerlee2 Eh. Why bother learning stats or even locations of places you have no intention of going to. Now if you mentioned Canada, I`d be all ears. (Best looking gay guys that have ever lived are in Canada.) :3
  85. Profile photo of Penguinato23
    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
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    June 14, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    I`m not a big fan of living in pennsylvania. It`s too conservative for my tastes and the only thing we have are amish ppl. I still would like to move to california. All the best things and the best people...well, the best non-famous people at least, live in california.


    As for the laws, of course they`re unconstitutional, but more importantly it`s something a lot of people wouldn`t be ok with. I`m beginning to realize that unfortunately something`s constitutionality doesn`t count for much, especially if the infallible, unquestionable gods of the supreme court decide they`ll just sort of ignore the constitution and make their decision purely on a whim.

    After all, why pay attention to the constitution; us puny mortals can`t do anything, and even though the gov can technically ignore them they never would. They should get together with the police. They could sit around and laugh at how pathetic and impotent everyone else is.

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