America`s Obsession: A Documentary

Submitted by: piperfawn 5 years ago in

Americans are really like this?
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Male 1
Stupid tautology is stupid. Of course if you carefully redefine "beautiful" until it applies to everyone by default...then everyone is beautiful. Unfortunately, the entire video was about physical attractiveness, not inner warmth or sense of humor or any of the other feel-good BS they trotted out at the end.
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Male 766
I call bullpoo . . . since the dawn of man, we are designed to go for the pretty girl. You can`t fight millions of years of evolution. There is nothing wrong about teaching that beauty is only skin deep and a fashion model is out of most men`s league. You must love yourself before you can truly love another. The rest is just sex.
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Male 2,591
Some angry fat feminist made this. Women are just as judgmental on how men look. Don`t get it twisted now.
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Male 204
I think that when we look at the problem of beauty we`re looking in the wrong place; it`s not the result of too much input distorting our own view of what is beautiful. As richanddead has stated, it`s a natural drive that tells us what we want. It has nothing to do with what advertisements tell us. These exist to entice women into buying products to make themselves more beautiful, i.e. superior to, their peers. This is nothing new; Victorian women bled themselves fair and crushed their ribs in corsets to obtain a beauty ideal.
The obsession with thinness is a problem in our culture; this is a place where our perception of beauty has been distorted by our culture. In many cultures, very thin women are not considered attractive because it means they are too poor to afford quality food. In our society, obesity is linked to poor diet whereas thinness is viewed as an achievement that is difficult to obtain.
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Male 41
lol the kid in the background at 5:18
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Male 554
@drawman61.. yep

It`s also funny the film makers don`t take in to account the old adage "beauty is held in the eye of the beholder".... witch is true. I think the film makers are pressing their "issue" to the point of laughaility.
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Male 7,774
Funny how it`s the women and girls that spend all their cash on beauty products to disguise themselves as something they are not, then blame the men for liking what they see.
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Female 2,415
This is nothing new to anyone who has a brain. What is sad is that men are being roped into this farce as well.
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Male 4,099
New research is finding that human womens` breasts are uniquely swollen and large, mainly because human guys have always liked big tits. Way before Barbie ever came along, people knew what they wanted, and no little service announcement will ever change that.
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Male 197
I don`t know if anyone has said this... IT`S FERKING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS!!!! OF COURSE THEY`RE ALL ABOUT LOOKS! FERK!
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Male 584
oh and quit b1chng about men making more $. dont like it? then the next time a boat sinks its children only 1st. you ho`s want everything a man has? then take everything that comes with it.
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Male 584
quit b1chng about men liking pretty women, its the same as how you cant pick on fat ppl anymore but skinny ppl is open season. don`t like it? get pretty then
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Male 15,832
This video sounded like something a couple of pissed-off ugly chicks would make.
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Male 14
Ladies... 99% of you are drating beautiful. The other 1%... this may or may not be mean but, you might NEED that surgery. Sorry. Am I an non-nice individual?
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Male 1,252
I would have given this a little more credit if it made even the slightest reference to the ideal male image. Not having a gajillion dollars, a full head of hair, a `workout for 2 hours a day` body and a 12" wang is exactly the same thing. Thats why we have liquor!
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Male 2,737
I like pretty fat girls.
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Female 4,408
tell us something we didn`t know...
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Male 469
@chemlaCavo

Yeah the more attractive a person is of course equals better sex. Why the drat do you think they get more dates? Because they make meals taste bette when you sit across from them?
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Male 4,224
@DeutschDude9
okay if you say so
i whould have to look it up but i dont relly care
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Female 349
So women from other parts of the world aren`t obsessed with their appearances? Give me a break! Also, they only interviewed high-school girls who are always dramatic about EVERYTHING. I get the message they were so desperately trying to send, but it was not received well.
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Male 1,284
this is what people buy
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Male 472
Seeing beauty as good health is sexual selection. Sexual selection are individuals selecting who to mate with. Natural selection is natural `forces` selecting who is able to reproduce further.

This is obviously about how Americans (individuals) select who they could potentially mate with.
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Male 4,224
@DeutschDude9 sexual selection
that not what i was going with. i`m talking about natural selection. seeing beauty as good health
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Male 5,811
[quote]His name`s MOSS not Word; you trying to test my geek knowledge, buddy?[/quote]

If I were testing it you would have failed. Word was his nickname when he joined 8+. :-)
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Male 8,526
MacGuffin-"It`s not as if men have been shown time and time again to be getting paid more than women for doing exactly the same jobs or anything."

Read your own article. That ruling included men, too. It was more about roles. As quoted `100 male clients, who were employed in roles that had traditionally been considered women`s roles such as caring and cleaning.`.

So it wasn`t `gender` as much as `job-classification`. Different jobs pay different rates.

Show me a woman DOING THE SAME EXACT JOB as a man where she`s getting paid a lower rate. THEN you`d have a complaint.

I`ve worked jobs where everyone in the job classification got the same pay, no matter what their sex.

I`ve also worked jobs where everyone got paid different rates, but it was based SOLELY on seniority, not gender.
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Male 8,526
Phranky-"Women to this day are still being punished for being Mothers."

They are not being `punished for being mothers`. They are chosing their children over their job.

Me and a co-worker (Patty) work the same job, making the same pay.

When overtime comes up, she refuses it as she want`s to spend more time with her kids. I take it.

When we accrue vacation time, she takes it to spend more time with her kids. I accrue it and cash it out, as I like the extra money.

By the end of the year, I`ve made $20,000 more in salary. Are you trying to tell me that this is `unfair`? Do you think she should be paid an additional $20,000 a year to do less work just so she`ll make the same? (would this be `fair`?)


Phranky-"equip everyone of my staff with laptops and VPN"

Great, that`s nice. But until a crane or a forklift can be driven as a Waldo, there are some jobs you just have to be present for.
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Male 219
....and Germans, and Brits, and French, and Swiss, and Aussies, ...... NOT just Americans! Gimme a frickin break!
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Female 2,602
@faq: They make you change the backup tapes, huh?
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Male 694
MacGuffin, if they were a "real male geek" they would wear whatever the drat they wanted to, not wear the "official male geek uniform." people that do are just losers trying to make sure the entire world knows they are a "real male geek" for some stupid reason and most often they are likely just posers
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Female 2,602
[quote]@MacGuffin: Word would never do that.[/quote]

His name`s MOSS not Word; you trying to test my geek knowledge, buddy? ;-)
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Male 5,811
@MacGuffin: Word would never do that.
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Female 2,602
@patch: OMFG, I hope he doesn`t drop that internet he`s holding!
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Male 5,811
[quote]Real male geeks wear a shirt and tie these days, in order to differentiate themselves as people that can actually code rather than just being one of those minimum wage bods that companies employ purely to change the backup tapes at night and blow canned air into secretaries` sticky keyboards.[/quote]

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Female 2,602
[quote]PUT THE SHIRT ON MAC!!! It adds +25 to Tech skill with a -5 to Charisma![/quote]

I was only exaggerating before about the heavy metal t-shirts that geeks wear. Real male geeks wear a shirt and tie these days, in order to differentiate themselves as people that can actually code rather than just being one of those minimum wage bods that companies employ purely to change the backup tapes at night and blow canned air into secretaries` sticky keyboards.
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Male 2,790
this is obviously made by a high school girl. probably a ugly one by how dramatic she`s being about the entire thing, even though it`s true
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Male 62
>>>Then work the same jobs and invest the same amount of hours.<<<

Women to this day are still being punished for being Mothers. In my department, I have many Mums, I equip everyone of my staff with laptops and VPN to work from anywhere.

Many times, my three managers will come in and report someone`s child is sick again and can`t come in.

I then said to the Mum`s I know, stop calling your Manager, call me, and as long as your work is done, I don`t care where you do it.

Women are still burdened with the majority of child care, and because of this, they can`t put in the hours. I`ve seen many women, who were brilliant, that I`ve mentored to become VPs, go and maternity leave, and when they get back, they get shafted.

I;ll say it again, women are punished for being women, senior execs generally won`t promote young women because they think they`ll waste all this time and money and then they`ll go off and have babies.

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Female 2,602
[quote]I want a perfect body, I want a perfect soul[/quote]

You`re a woman, you`ve probably got one already. Now all you need is a bloke.
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Female 2,761
I want a perfect body, I want a perfect soul
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Male 14,331
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Male 14,331
[quote]It always amazes me when people (usually, it has to be said, it will be an American) tries to insist they know more about the country I`ve lived in my entire life than I do.[/quote]

Yes those form Europe never do that......

PUT THE SHIRT ON MAC!!! It adds +25 to Tech skill with a -5 to Charisma!
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Female 2,602
>>>Then work the same jobs and invest the same amount of hours.<<<


Yeah, right, it`s that simple. It`s not like it`s not as if men have been shown time and time again to be getting paid more than women for doing exactly the same jobs or anything.
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Male 62
@MacGuffin

And I shoud have known better with my Mum`s maiden name of Urquart...she just told me I was a, "Dumbass", ofcourse we`re European!!

Sheesh!!!
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Male 62
@MacGuffin

Yes, you never learn from winning, you always win from learning.

Just got owned by my English neighbour David, he said, "absolutely yes we consider ourselves European!"

Guess I was reading too literally, the UK, and France and the just past 68th annivsary of D-Day, which we study as the, "Invasion of Europe".

But it was fasinating to discuss this, and I`m glad that I`ve learned something new.

Here is a great story about my country:

Damn - can`t post the link, Google, The Band, Canadian Driftwood, and watch the video.

Cheers all!!
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Male 8,526
MacGuffin-"but we do want to enjoy the same advantages that men have, such as greater pay"

Then work the same jobs and invest the same amount of hours. The `Gender Wage Gap` myth has been debunked. They NEVER compare a man and a woman working the same job and same amount of hours. The `77 cents for every dollar a man makes` statistic is misleading. The U.S. Census Bureau finds the median wage for full-time male and female workers and then calculates the difference. They do NOT take into account career-choices (hint: full-time engineer makes more than full-time elementary school teacher) or that men are more likely to have dangerous jobs, high stress jobs, work longer hours, and travel more for work.

Don`t believe me? 93% of all on-the-job deaths are MEN (do you want that stat to be equal, too?)

Want to compare apples-to-apples? Fact: young, childless, single urban women earn 8 percent more than their male counterparts.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Forgot to mention in my last post, my apologies![/quote]

No problem - thank you for recognising your mistake.

It always amazes me when people (usually, it has to be said, it will be an American) tries to insist they know more about the country I`ve lived in my entire life than I do. I once had an American uncle ask me why I didn`t use a Scottish passport? (!) When I informed him the reason was because they don`t exist, he went on to argue :

1) That they do.
2) I really should have one if I`m actually Scottish.

It turned out that he just honestly didn`t understand that Eire is an entirely separate country to Scotland, and it was an Irish passport he was on about. )-|
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Male 3,445
`the only girls obsessed with beauty are the fugly ones`

You`ve never met a woman before, have you?
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Male 701
1) this "documentary was made by some high school kid.
2) the only girls obsessed with beauty are the fugly ones
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Male 62
@MacGuffin

Forgot to mention in my last post, my apologies!
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Male 62
Hahaha - atlases printed up to the 70`s, thats when I would have been in school and hence formed this opinion.

Been reading a lot about this, and it seems there are many opinions on this, but the vast majority land on the UK is European, so I stand corrected!

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Female 2,602
[quote]as its monarch is described, the passport does not include Europe[/quote]

What, this passport?



And that`s before we even get in to the fact that you think continents are sub-divisions of countries, rather than the other way round.

I really hope you are trolling, because otherwise I`ve got another theory about why you were unattractive to people in high school: they just didn`t want to procreate with someone likely to produce stupid kids.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Having posted this, there does seem to be a debate out there regarding UK being a part of Europe or not, so all I can say at this point is we`ve all learned something new today, and I`m glad to have been enlightened to this debate. [/quote]
I was worried for a minute, but Canadian polite kindness prevails! XD
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Male 62
Britain is not part of Europe, in as far as the political meaning of the word is concerned. Britain is always recently described separately from Europe, as its monarch is described, the passport does not include Europe, but does include access to certain European countries, (since the 60s), of which visas are required (by some). The passport actually separates Great Britain from European countries or the European Union.
Geologically, Great Britain is part of the continental shelf, but that is a geological term and not a political one. All the older atlases printed up until about 1970s described Great Britain, or rather, The British Isles as separate from Europe.

Having posted this, there does seem to be a debate out there regarding UK being a part of Europe or not, so all I can say at this point is we`ve all learned something new today, and I`m glad to have been enlightened to this debate.

Cheers!



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Male 5,163
Phranky So also Sicily and Sardinia islands are not in Europe for you?
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Female 2,602
@Phranky:

I know where I live. And so, thank goodness, do the vast majority of IABers. You`re making a right tit of yourself, and no mistake.
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Male 5,811
[quote]The BEST way to maximize your attractiveness is to only hang out with people uglier than yourself. My friends are old, ugly and fat - it`s always worked for me.[/quote]

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Male 472
@dm2754

It`s called sexual selection, not natural selection. Small but distinct difference.
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Male 62
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[nb 5] (commonly known as the United Kingdom (UK) or Britain) is a sovereign state located off the north-western coast of continental Europe. The country includes the island of Great Britain, the north-eastern part of the island of Ireland and many smaller islands. Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK that shares a land border with another sovereign state—the Republic of Ireland. Apart from this land border the UK is surrounded by the Atlantic Ocean, the North Sea, the English Channel and the Irish Sea.

Notice, "located off the north-western coast of continental Europe".

The UK is the UK, it is not a part of the European continent, it is a series of Islands off the European continent, basic geography, look it up.
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Female 2,602
@Phranky: It`s not often I find someone that`s as prepared to demonstrate their own geographical ignorance so completely. Are you certain you weren`t born in the US and emigrated?

This is Europe in green:



What continent was it, pray tell, that in "your world" the UK is in?
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Male 5,163
Phranky the island north of France is still inside Europe, maybe not inside economic Europe nowaday but have allways be in the geographical zone called Europe.
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Male 4,224
we all know that the UK is one of the 50 "States" in Europe
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Male 3,445
The UK is still Europe, dude. Anyway, I don`t think I-A-B even gives another option for people who live in the UK.
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Male 4,224
i think Phranky was joking
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Male 62
@MacGuffin

Well the world I live in denotes Glasgow, Scotland as:

Glasgow is the largest city in Scotland and third most populous in the United Kingdom. The city is situated on the River Clyde in the country`s West Central Lowlands.

Glad I could clear that up for you, Europe is across the channel...in case you didn`t know.
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Male 4,224
@Gerry1of1 We need "LIKE" buttons for individual comments.
yes that would nice. a lot of other site have them
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Female 2,602
[quote]PS: so get Europe off your profile then, you live in the UK.[/quote]

You`re just embarrassing yourself now. And I thought it was only Americans that were oblivious to their ignorance of basic geography.
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Male 62
@MacGuffin

Thanks for the tip - changed my age.

PS: so get Europe off your profile then, you live in the UK.
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Male 39,880

Oystah, [quote]"the best way to maximize your attractiveness..." [/quote]
I couldn`t disagree more.
The BEST way to maximize your attractiveness is to only hang out with people uglier than yourself. My friends are old, ugly and fat - it`s always worked for me.
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Male 5,163
MacGuffin"but we do want to enjoy the same advantages that men have"
You mean something like that?
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Male 14,331
@MacGuffin
Now put this on it`s corporate policy!!
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Male 14,331
[quote] when it comes to choosing between Developer Barbie or one of the twenty other guys that will probably wear death metal t-shirts every single day in the office and be unable to have actual conversations with other human beings that aren`t geeks (but who do need our help to do whatever it is they do), it`s a no brainer to hire the one that looks OK and is able to talk to people as well as write code.[/quote]

PFFFSSHHH HACK!!
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Female 2,602
[quote]In highschool (I`m 48 now)[/quote]

PS: so get "30-39" off your profile, then.
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Female 2,602
[quote]You know - I`m really getting tired of the poor, so sad, sucks to be a woeman thing[/quote]

There are upsides and downsides for each gender. I don`t think most women would want to *be* men, but we do want to enjoy the same advantages that men have, such as greater pay. Speaking personally, I find my gender has only helped my career. I work in a predominantly male profession (technical geekery), so it makes me stand out when I go for job interviews. As long as you know what you`re talking about and can do the job, all other things being equal, when it comes to choosing between Developer Barbie or one of the twenty other guys that will probably wear death metal t-shirts every single day in the office and be unable to have actual conversations with other human beings that aren`t geeks (but who do need our help to do whatever it is they do), it`s a no brainer to hire the one that looks OK and is able to talk to people as well as write code.
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Female 4,039
I think the best way to maximize your attractiveness is to take excellent care of your teeth and get the correct haircut and if you wear glasses, get a pair that compliment your face. See? You`re better already.
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Female 1,743
You know, I`m so over this kind of thinking. When I was a teenager, stuff like this consumed me. But then I grew up and realized that image is important, but even though society pushes one image on us, men and women still each have their own perception of beauty. My honey finds me to be hot stuff, and that`s all that really matters to me. If he`s happy, I`m doing something right. Everyone else can drat off. :)
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Male 5,163
Phranky
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Male 62
You know - I`m really getting tired of the poor, so sad, sucks to be a woeman thing (yes, I purposely spelled it that way).

Men and boys go through this as well, always the friend, never the lover.

In highschool (I`m 48 now), girls wouldn`t even look at me, I was a geek, a 6`4" geek, but an was branded, "uncool", I loved computers etc..

Then, when I graduate University, get an absolutely stellar job, rise rapidly through the ranks to executive level in my early 30`s, suddenly women are on me like a fat kid on a red Smarty.

Lots of guys I know, good looking, trade jobs, women won`t even talk to them, even though women say they just want to meet a, "nice guy".

No they don`t, the want a guy with money, that`s why I`m glad I met my wife of 21 years when I was in school.

Getting real tired of all this poor me, woeman poo...guess what kittens, it happens to us ALL!

Stop the incessant whining!!

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Male 3,445
Why is the implication that only Americans are obsessed with it? This is worldwide. We just happen to have the largest media output, that`s all.

A lot of the traits men and women are looking for in partners are explained by biological evolution. When a woman puts on makeup, it`s not just to hide flaws, it`s to present an image of fertility, which is at the root of what men are attracted to. Beckoning eyes, facial symmetry, nice breasts, etc. are all symbols of this. It`s the same reason women are attracted to men who are strong (physically or mentally) and driven.

John Cleese did a documentary program on the human face that covered a lot of this.
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Male 39,880

We need "LIKE" buttons for individual comments.
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Male 39,880

Rating? For me it`s

4 - actually laughed out loud, or appropriate response.
3 - entertained, but not thrilling
2 - meh
1 - FAIL

Sometimes the posted replies are far more entertaining than the original post so even if it`s a low score it can be entertaining.
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Male 14,331
@MacGuffin

My height is 6 feet even!
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Female 2,602

I read a book by Lyall Watson years ago, called `Dark Nature`, that talked a lot about the reasons for different types of human and animal behaviour, and framed it all in terms of genetic advantage. The book referenced a study that showed hyenas will risk their lives twice as often for their own cubs (in which they share a 50% genetic investment), than for their siblings` cubs (which share at most 25% of their genes). It`d be interesting, from an abstract point of view, if homosexuality were explainable in similar genetic terms. DM`s link has a study that talks about how gay men spend more time with their nieces and nephews, promoting their wellbeing and chances of growing up to be well-adjusted people with a greater chance of procreating themselves, for example.

Now, we just need to know what the genetic advantage for women is in wearing Jimmy Choos, taking time out to do makeup every morning, and spending two hours washing your hair because it`s so bloody long!
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacG - the best explanation I`ve heard for homosexual behavior in animals is that it provides bonding between peers for group acceptance and mutual protection.

Don`t know how true it is, but it makes some sense. Roman warriors did the same thing, had a "little buddy" and a wife. Male bonding is a really weird subject.

I`ve strayed off topic again, haven`t I.[/quote]

I think your observations are on-topic; they`re certainly about the reasons for different types of attraction (and the pressures they place on people to conform to a particular ideal of attractiveness). Interesting to note, both from your comments and from the link DM provided, that homosexuality may promote a more societal advantage than an individual one. Kind of kin selection.

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Male 5,163
Gerry1of1 usualy dominants animals males want others males to be subdued by sex to show to the group they are the kings of the pak.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Is so fun how the rating of this post is going down.
I found it an interesting post or at least it seem me well partecipated.[/quote]

I think it`s a feature of the fact that the people most likely to vote are those voting a post down. In any hotly-debated topic, a certain percentage will disagree with the views being expressed, and be motivated to downvote it. More mundane posts that don`t warrant any sort of positive or negative reaction end up being ignored, and staying at 3-4 stars.
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Male 39,880

MacG - the best explanation I`ve heard for homosexual behavior in animals is that it provides bonding between peers for group acceptance and mutual protection.

Don`t know how true it is, but it makes some sense. Roman warriors did the same thing, had a "little buddy" and a wife. Male bonding is a really weird subject.

I`ve strayed off topic again, haven`t I.
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Male 5,163
Rascal like "flowers" too. ;-)
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Female 2,602
[quote]Bzzz... bee? MacGuffin are you talking at me?[/quote]

Never mind bee, you`re a little beesom*, pf. ;-)







* In Scottish = "rascal"
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Male 5,163
Is so fun how the rating of this post is going down.
I found it an interesting post or at least it seem me well partecipated.
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Female 2,602
[quote]heres` one. there are a lot more out there
Evolution myths: Natural selection cannot explain homosexuality [/quote]

Thanks DM, I`ll have a read at that.
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Male 5,163
Bzzz... bee? MacGuffin are you talking at me?
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Female 2,602
[quote]
Well, I`m gay and I have a son, so.....

Mostly I agree with you. We are more than just the programming of evolution. We have minds and can override basic instinct. But initial attraction? well all you know about them is their appearance at first look. Later you get more info and can override superficial attractions....of add to it. [/quote]

I`m being slightly whimsical of course, but I`d be genuinely interested to see a study that showed gay men really did get some genetic advantage from their inner motivations to sleep with other men.

There`s some really weird studies that show, as well as mere physical attraction, women are also attracted to men`s *smell*. In a blind study, they`ll prefer the smell of t-shirts that have been worn by men that are more genetically different to them (and which therefore would give any offspring a greater survival advantage).

We`re a weird old mixed-up species, us humans.
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Male 1,949
You typically see someone before you talk to them, so of course looks matter. Before we speak to someone, we see if they`re angry, or crying, or smiling, ... It changed how we approach a stranger.

On that note, choose healthy over pretty. AKA, visit Japan and get bombarded with advertising that`s primarily focused on how healthy a food is, not how good it looks/tastes.

You want to spot an American for sure? Go to an Asian market and round up all the fat people. There`s your Americans.
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Male 4,224
@MacGuffin
heres` one. there are a lot more out there
Evolution myths: Natural selection cannot explain homosexuality
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Male 5,811
[quote]But then again, we must be more complex than that simple explanation might suggest. Otherwise why would you find some individuals that seem to be pre-programmed in ways that make it unlikely for their genes to get passed on, such as in homosexuality?[/quote]
It is close to being as simple as that. Our basic biology directs most of our actions, and our brains are hard-wired to gravitate to potential partners that conform to Jungian archetypes. The difference between humans and other animals is that our cognitive functioning allows us to disregard many of these urges if we so choose, which is also why things like pheromones have little effect on our higher cognitive processes. We`re all slaves to our genes in the most basic sense, however we`ve evolved past the point where we are driven only by instinct.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Homosexuality/Homosexual behavior is not exclusive to humans. or Americans.[/quote]

I`m sure it is quite widely spread. It`s just difficult to explain the phenomenon in terms of an adaptation that helps ensure the survival of your genes.

Maybe it`s a societal thing? Like bees. Some of us get to have a better chance at procreation, whilst others have roles that support society as a more gestalt entity, by playing roles that are more supportive in nature, and getting to be more fabulous and generally having lives that are more fun?*







* May not exactly resemble bees.
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Male 645
everyone is not equal. life is not fair. move on.
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Male 39,880

MacGuffin [quote]"we must be more complex than that simple explanation might suggest. Otherwise why would you find some individuals that seem to be pre-programmed in ways that make it unlikely for their genes to get passed on, such as in homosexuality?" [/quote]
Well, I`m gay and I have a son, so.....

Mostly I agree with you. We are more than just the programming of evolution. We have minds and can override basic instinct. But initial attraction? well all you know about them is their appearance at first look. Later you get more info and can override superficial attractions....of add to it.
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Female 2,602
[quote]here is some light reading
Intelligence and physical attractiveness[/quote]

It`s an article about how intelligence may be related to human attractiveness, and Ctrl-F tells me it doesn`t even contain the word "homosexual".
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Female 2,602
[quote]Anyone know if you can get a pet lemming?? They`re pretty cute!! [/quote]

Stand under a cliff, and shout "AMERICA!!!!!!".
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Male 4,224
here is some light reading
Intelligence and physical attractiveness
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Female 2,602
>>>studies have shown homosexuality genes make it more likely to pass on your genes.
Bisexuals have a LOT more sex the homosexuals and heterosexuals<<<


Which studies? Because in Muslim countries today, for example, it just makes it far more likely that you`ll get your head removed from your body. And even in my own `enlightened` country, being homosexual as recently as 60 years ago was a shortcut to being sentenced to having involuntary female hormone injections to render you impotent and reduce your libido.

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Male 14,331
Anyone know if you can get a pet lemming?? They`re pretty cute!!

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Male 4,224
@MacGuffin
studies have shown homosexuality genes make it more likely to pass on your genes.
Bisexuals have a LOT more sex the homosexuals and heterosexuals
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Male 52
"Has pretty become the new expectation; the new ideal?"

This is stupid beyond belief. Pretty women have always been sought after. The only way we are different about it now is that western society at least gives lip service to the idea that it`s wrong. Even doing that is better than the majority of history.
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Male 8,526
Bu!!poo from the first line.

Let`s make it clear: Life is not fair. Never was, never will be. There`s someone out there better looking and smarter than you. Get over it.

`Beauty` has been defined, re-defined and pursued since the dawn of time. Get over it.

The earliest paintings and sculptures (that pre-date the USA) were not of ugly girls. Get over it.

Women are just as bad as chasing men based on looks as men are women. Get over it.

Not all men `expect` every woman to be `pretty`. The very concept of `pretty` varies from person to person.

This Documentary is not about an `obsession`, it`s about the fact that Life is Not Fair (and the person(s) who created the video are under the mistaken impression that life SHOULD be fair. It`s not, get over it).
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Male 4,224
@ChelmaCavo
>>Have you ever been with an American prstitute?....

no, what is like?
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Female 2,602
[quote]Yes, like all animals, men look at a desirable mate based on physical criteria. No differant than lions, wolves, or wildebeests. But guys are honest about it, yes we want a pretty partner! [/quote]

I think there`s definitely something in that: what other reason would I prefer someone that`s physically stronger than me (and therefore presumably more of a threat to me), than it would give any offspring a greater chance of survival? Maybe we are all just little biological computers, programmed by our genes to behave in ways that aren`t necessarily in our self-interest, but are in the interest of getting our genes passed along?

But then again, we must be more complex than that simple explanation might suggest. Otherwise why would you find some individuals that seem to be pre-programmed in ways that make it unlikely for their genes to get passed on, such as in homosexuality?

It`s a weird old thing, human attraction.
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Female 25
@thatjimguy: attractiveness = good sex? Have you ever been with an American prostitute?.... or prison, maybe.
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Male 45
I understand the arguments given in the video (and i didn`t watch till the end, so forgive me if the question was answered.) but, what do they want done? For people to stop trying to make themselves look sexier or more appealing to the opposite sex? "You`re beautiful just the way you are so don`t bother trying to compete with people who are naturally more attractive to the opposite sex than you are. You just wait for the person who wants you to come along, instead of trying to get the person you WANT to want you. ???
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Male 39,880

Blah Blah Blah

Yes, like all animals, men look at a desirable mate based on physical criteria. No differant than lions, wolves, or wildebeests. But guys are honest about it, yes we want a pretty partner!

Women look for the best provider then best looking. They want both, but they`ll pick a rich ugly guy over a poor hot guy. Don`t believe me? Then how do you explain Hugh Heffner, or the hot babes ugly Richard Branson gets?
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Male 4,224
@yusuksomuch
dude MacGuffin is not got to sleep with you.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Looks matter for both sexes.[/quote]

Actually, maybe I`m weird and other women will chip in here and tell me if so, but for guys looks really aren`t very important at all. I`m not saying you can get away without brushing your teeth and showering occasionally, but you just don`t need to be pretty in the way that appears to be very important for women in order to be attractive to women. When I`m dating a guy, I prefer to be the pretty one. As long as he`s kind, attentive, preferably physically strong and taller than me (not easy at 5`9" let me tell you), he`s alright in my book as a physical specimen. It all comes down to personality after that. As for women: the world`s portrayed in such distorted terms for us that it`s actually a shock for most men to see a woman without makeup. They even portray women waking up in bed in full face makeup in dramas on TV.
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Male 111
This was a documentary with a clear agenda. You know damn good and well that they had plenty of kids who said looks weren`t the most important thing or the only thing, but those replies were editted out because they didn`t support the pre-formed conclusion.

I`m a guy, and I admit that certain proportions on a gal are appealing (that magic .7 waist/hip ratio) but I don`t like the too-skinny look. I don`t want to date a woman who looks like a 13 year old boy.

And as long as we`re cutting through the BS here... I think for most guys, if a woman shows interest in them, will be *pretty darn flexible* about the acceptability of her looks.

The whole beauty industry business and "Barbie ideal" is 99% by-women for-women. They hold each other to standards that are extremely different than the standards most guys have.
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Male 4,224
@Airfalco
dont for get: Muscular, Rich and Tall.
for only $120k you can be ealler thus men sex to woman.

Show of hands girls how many of you are married to or are dating a man shorter then yourself? Or a foot taller?

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Male 5,163


Here i am.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Not to bog down the message, but people forget that men can be self-conscious too, maybe just as much as women. But unfortunately men are supposed to be invincible emotionless machines who don`t have any problems. Quite far from the truth.[/quote]

I had a boyfriend once that cried whilst we were watching the Oscars and it came to the bit about who had died that year. Give me strength: amn`t I`m meant to vulnerable, emotional one? at least I managed not to laugh at him. Even though he was being a big jessie.
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Male 469
pointless discussion that has gone around for years. Looks matter for both sexes. We all know that other things matter, but we all want that AND good sex too. Go figure.
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Male 1,008
Thank you MacGuffin for bringing some intelligence into this thread. I didn`t realize I was dealing with special needs lemmings. You are absolutely correct and I think I will leave them to it. As for the Avi, Bill is forever young in my mind.
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Female 149
Of course a bunch of teenagers are going to be superficial. A lot of people don`t realize that they have to love themselves before they love someone else until they`re much older. That being said, though, teenagers are idiots. So. There`s that.
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Male 355
Wow what a shock - a bunch of shallow teenagers have shallow answers.
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Male 34
Not to bog down the message, but people forget that men can be self-conscious too, maybe just as much as women. But unfortunately men are supposed to be invincible emotionless machines who don`t have any problems. Quite far from the truth.
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Female 2,602
>>>Oh yes, uniquely an American issue. I can see the lemmings have the floor at IAB today.<<<


Stop taking things so personally, dear boy. As Oscar Wilde once observed, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about. Take the fact that people have opinions about America as a positive thing. Who gives a damn about Britain`s problems these days? - no-one, because we`re no longer important enough to care about. And, please sort your avi out - Bill is far older than that now; there`s another Oscar Wilde story about a guy with a picture in his attic that is appropriate to your situation, but I wont bore you with it now. ;-)
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Male 128
Men and society have idolized pretty women since Helen of Troy, and well before that. A video excoriating that ideal seems pretty pointless. Do magazines promote ideal beauty? Sure, because thats apparently what sells.
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Male 4,224
@yusuksomuch
lemmings are cute. so you are calling us all cute.


why thank you but im not gay so hit on someone else.
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Male 4,224
The women I have dated that are worried about their looks and weight have been from the fallowing places:
US America
United Kingdom
Ukraine
Holland
Mongolia
Navajo
Mexico
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Male 1,008
"yusuksomuch is not a trolling, this is the title of the documentary, not my fault, and this video have been recorded in USA, still not my fault. Stop seing lemmings everywhere."

you are one of the first people here to take a shot at Americans when ever you feel the chance has arisen, you are one of the founding lemmings. And I don`t see them everywhere, but when I do see them it`s usually here.
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Male 5,163
Lol i think we all must search a documentary about lemmings obsession for yusucksomuch ;-)
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Male 1,008
"yusuksomuch
have ever been to anther country are have known any foreigners? try looking are on the Internet (you may have heard of it) you just mite learn something"

You know I`ve never had any world experience because Im American right? lol, lemtard
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Male 171
"Do looks matter? Yes"
Well duh. obviously, lokks matter, thats a stupid question. Ask those very same people the question
"Does personality matter?"
And their answer would also be yes.

Obviously looks matter, the question isnt whether they matter or not, its more of how much they matter to you, how high you set the bar, and whether its the most important thing to you or not.
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Male 3,369
There certainly truth to this, but even kids find self-confidence, intelligence, and a good sense of humor attractive as well.
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Male 4,224
why do they only talk about Anorexia nervosa and
Bulimia nervosa? what about: Binge eating disorder, Compulsive overeating, Purging disorder, Rumination, Diabulimia, Food maintenance, Pica, Night eating syndrome, Orthorexia nervosa,

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Male 329
Girl says "pretty" she never gave her thought on what pretty meant, the videogrpaher defined their own definition of pretty... hence, this is just propaganda.
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Female 25
Ironically, in contrast with our weight, America really is like this, but honestly I thought everywhere was like this.
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Male 14,331
[quote]Americans are really like this?[/quote]

Many fashion shows pushing this are in Europe.... Now what are of the world is constantly focused on our wieght again??
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Male 1,059
Undeniable truth of life #24: Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society.
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Male 5,163
yusuksomuch is not a trolling, this is the title of the documentary, not my fault, and this video have been recorded in USA, still not my fault. Stop seing lemmings everywhere.
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Male 4,224
@yusuksomuch
have ever been to anther country are have known any foreigners? try looking are on the Internet (you may have heard of it) you just mite learn something
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Male 4,224
shes` asking young people and surprised that she getting shallow answers
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Male 1,008
Oh yes, uniquely an American issue. I can see the lemmings have the floor at IAB today.
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Male 4,224
America`s! no this is world wide. frome the being of time to the end all life.
its call "natural selection"
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Male 5,163
Link: America`s Obsession: A Documentary [Rate Link] - Americans are really like this?
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