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Date: 06/02/12 11:00 AM

19 Responses to A Universe From Nothing

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    rautenbach Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2012 at 11:00 am
    Link: A Universe From Nothing - Awesome animation about Quantum Physics, Dark Energy and more with commentary from Lawrence M. Krauss
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    Qwertyuiop95 Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:10 am
    Yep, I smell a massive flamewar incoming. At least IAB`s flamewars are really interesting to read. I`ll check back later.
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    clockwork208 Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:10 am
    So all of your heated arguments and trollings, dear community, aren`t even important enough to deemed "petty".

    So shaddup.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:22 am
    Well, hey, nearly half of Americans (yeah, that`s freakin` HALF) believe the world was not only created by God, but that we humans have existed in our present form for only about the last 10,000 years. (Here is my source.) So, sure, a flame war is pretty inevitable.
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    Brometheus Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    Those were some great visuals Rautenbach. Awesome work!
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    everything we have ever learned has come from 1% of all that is out there. we discover there is 99% more stuff, so what do we do? we try to cram the 99% we know jack poo about into the paradigm we built from 1% we`ve studied.

    admit you don`t know anything about anything, and stop pretending.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    June 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    I welcome the flame war. Arguing with bible-bashers is always a good laugh.
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    jkfld Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm
    The idea that "nothing" actually exists "out there" is an absurdity originating in naive assumptions about physics internalized during infancy. In the course of becoming aware of the rules of the world, babies cannot help but repeatedly observe how a discrete body ("a something", such as a toy block or even one of our own limbs) can be made to move through apparently empty space ("the nothing") with little obvious resistance until its boundary meets the boundary of another "something". Some of us are arrogant enough to declare the common sense model based on these observations valid on all levels.
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    jkfld Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm
    Some of us are also ignorant enough to denigrate those who question the “plain truth” we have partly assumed and partly received from others who’ve made similar assumptions, namely, that the nothing of our model *really* exists, that you don’t get something from nothing, that everything needs a cause, that someone had to cause the universe to come into existence, that only a supreme being could have been capable of doing so, that such a being must have had a reason for including us in his creation, that the happiness we get out of life is his special gift to us, that showing appreciation to him for this free gift is a moral imperative, that our weakness in light of his strength and our sinfulness in light of his perfection fundamentally separates us from him while entitling him to our abject servility for eternity,
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    jkfld Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    that in his graciousness he has provided us a path to return to him, that a description of this path was transmitted to the patriarchs of the religion we happened to be born into or converted to, that only the sincere believers in this religion stand a chance at avoiding the coming day of destruction, that all others stand in direct opposition to the totality of his divine will and the objective good that he represents, and that those people will experience the pain and suffering of being burned alive forever and ever without the possibility of escape even through death. Then again, some of us avoid this insane spiral completely by basing our beliefs on fact rather than intuition.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    That commentary was almost entirely unfounded speculation. He was basically just pulling stuff out of his ass. Plus, the music, if you can call it that, sucked, and those picture had absolutely nothing to do with anything.

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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm
    People get mad at Christians when they ask people to believe in something they can`t see. He`s asking the same. Just believe what you believe, leave everyone else alone.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    jkfld - I just wanted you to know someone read your entire diatribe.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 12:38 am
    People get mad at Christians when they ask people to believe in something they can`t see. He`s asking the same.

    No, he isn`t. The differences are evidence, reasoning, simplicity and belief.

    I can`t see the force that creates lift on a wing and enables planes to fly.

    I can`t see the undetectable magic pixies that carry planes and enable them to fly.

    According to your argument, that makes both explanations of how planes can fly equally valid.

    I disagree.

    Also, I don`t believe that the shape of a wing creates lift as it moves through air. I reason that it is the most likely explanation based on known facts. That`s not belief.

    Just believe what you believe, leave everyone else alone.

    That statement of yours might have some validity if a person`s beliefs had no effect on anyone else, but that`s obviously not true.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 1:03 am
    To head off the "but dark matter isn`t a fact!" replies:

    It is possible to calculate the approximate mass of things such as galaxies from their gravity, which can be measured by their movement and from the effect they have on light.

    The mass is much higher than can be accounted for by matter we can see.

    Mass is a result of matter.

    The most likely explanation from the known facts is that there is a lot of matter that we can`t see. Since we can`t see it, it`s called `dark`. It interacts with gravity but not with the other forces.

    We don`t know what dark matter is. We do know that it exists - that is a fact repeatedly confirmed by experiment. So it isn`t a matter of belief. It`s a matter of fact.
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    nayrbarr Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2012 at 4:40 am
    I prefer the original speech, it actually explains what he`s saying in context.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    June 3, 2012 at 7:27 am
    The music made this impossible to watch.. Eyeyeye
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    "You don`t need a deity. You can have nothing and quantum fluctuations can create a universe."

    So... who/what created the quantum fluctuations?
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    I-Am-Goatse Male 18-29
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    June 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    Oh hey, it`s this discussion, again. If you think about it, anyone involved in this argument is insane. Seeing as this comes up quite often, until one side has any means of proving the other wrong, you`re all insane.

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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