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Date: 05/01/12 01:02 PM

121 Responses to The Two Cent Tip To The Crappy Waitress [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of LittleMissQT
    LittleMissQT Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    Link: The Two Cent Tip To The Crappy Waitress - You call it, I-A-B. Is the customer wrong for being a dick about this tip and note or was this just and fair?
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    If the service was crappy they don`t deserve a tip, If people tip when service is bad service will continue to be bad. Same if when people don`t tip when service is good then service may not continue to be good.
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    Chagrin Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Are those Canadian cents?
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    carpedog Female 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    well done. If you`re unhappy with the service, tell them!
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    alliknow Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    What a pratt
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Dick!! Try waiting tables and have the host overseat you by accident or if your just starting out and don`t know how to multitask tables well.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    A bit preachy.... maybe they could have shortened the note to just `you were poo at your job`.
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    spuddington Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    think he was justified. she was being a dick with her job and didnt give a poo about what she did. his reaction seems fair
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    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    I`ve worked as a waiter, and the guy who wrote this is correct. It`s really bad form to make excuses about anything to your customers. Just do your job, be polite and get a tip, not rocket science.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    *standing ovation*
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    jav805 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    Right on!
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    nope, it`s fair. In a related note, I hate tipping: restaurant owners pay your waitresses, I don`t see why I have to.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    @Chagrin, yup, those are the soon to be extinct canadian pennies
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    He could`ve just not tipped the bitch.
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    Murcu Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    Got her! This will likely make her cry!
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Agree`d.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Are those Canadian cents?

    Oh they are that explains it that`s the standard canuk tip!!
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    Brometheus Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    Just for saying she was busy? Damn that guy must be sensitive! He`d probably have a nervous breakdown after one day of walking in her shoes.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    @jendrian, in the US waiters get 2.15 an hour, this way you get cheaper food and waiters are paid based on how well they do, in theory at least. There are a lot of cheap people.

    As far as the picture, saying "I`m really busy" could either be apologetic for a mistake or just being douchey when a customer asks for something. Depends on the circumstance.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    I`ve been a waiter twice in my life, and she`s got no excuse. You can`t just go about telling everybody how busy (or unprepared) your restaurant is to handle all tables seated.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    McGovern1981-"Try waiting tables and have the host overseat you by accident"

    How do you know the tipper hadn`t? I have, and have very low tolerrance for bad service.

    McGovern1981-"or if your just starting out and don`t know how to multitask tables well."

    I`ll be the first to give a new employee a chance. But many times you can tell the waiter/waitress has a bad attitude and just makes excuses.

    Had dinner a few weeks ago, my waitress was full of excuses why our service sucked: "We`re supper busy" (nope, half full), "I`m working the phones in the back" (nope, checked with the manager, other people were assigned that).

    The result? She got a $2 tip and a mention to the manager. On the other hand, the OTHER waitress, who was NOT OUR waitress, that made sure we had everything we needed, got a $20 tip on a $35 meal at a table she was not supposed to be waiting on to begin with. (she also got mentioned to
  22. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    @wake_n_bake: Really? Cheaper? I`d say $10 for a pasta that in ingredients and workmanship took $2 to prepare is not really keeping up with trying to make it cheaper. Does it really have to cost you $2 to have somebody bring it to you?

    Again, having worked as a waiter, I would`ve much, muuuuuuch preferred having been paid an honest wage, instead of depending on the people that didn`t like it that I have no cleavage.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    You are all missing the point. Passive aggressiveness is the best policy!
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    empathy
      Example Sentences Origin
    em·pa·thy
        Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.
    2.
    the imaginative ascribing to an object, as a natural object or work of art, feelings or attitudes present in oneself: By means of empathy, a great painting becomes a mirror of the self.
    Origin:
    1900–05; < Greek empátheia affection, equivalent to em- em-2 + path- (base of páschein to suffer) + -eia -ia; present meaning translates German Einfühlung

    I guess no one teaches this anymore...
  25. Profile photo of wake_n_bake
    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    @jendrian I am a waiter currently, and have been for two years. As much as I`d like a real hourly, the truth is that meal prices would go up, because owners would want to keep the same profit margin. And I don`t know about you, but working in a restaurant is hard work and sucks; I don`t think anyone would do it for minimum wage.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    It`s hard to say without knowing the whole story. If she was sincere and apologetic, this person is a dick. If she said it and wasn`t nice about it, then it was an excuse and the person was right for doing it. I tip in relation to the quality of service. Screw around with me and I`ll return the favor.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    she forgot to say eh...
  28. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    @wake_n_bake, yeah, that`s exactly what I`m saying... the markup is something none of your customers thinks about, specially if tipping weren`t required. When have you seen somebody complain because the dish was $12, instead of $10?

    That`s my whole point to restaurant owners: keep your markup, pay an honest wage to your waiters.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    @lostinkorea: english alphabet, familiar with it?

    PS. I know you just copy pasted it, but you should`ve seen it was all gibberish and fixed it...
  30. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    instead of depending on the people that didn`t like it that I have no cleavage.

    You must not have been good I clean up in college! First make sure you get a job at a nice place that helps then card all the older ladies you know are over age they love it!! Push wines if you have a wine list and throw that overserving crap out the window!! Finally the most important thing bust ass some people do see it still!!
  31. Profile photo of wake_n_bake
    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    @jendrian if it happened it would be nice. It would take a while too push through though, and hopefully by then I`d be done with college and have a real job : P
  32. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    "restaurant owners pay your waitresses, I don`t see why I have to."

    I don`t know about our friends to the North, but in the US, the minimum wage for waitstaff is WAY lower than the minimum wage for other types of employees. It`s currently $2.13 per hour, provided the reported wages plus salary meet the minimum wage of $7.25. So they do pay them, but not nearly enough without tips. A waiter who is constantly not making minimum wage when their tips are included will be fired, and replaced with someone who can do it.

    Not saying it`s right, or it`s wrong, just that it`s why.
  33. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    @McGovern, my normal percentage from the total was 16 (in Mexico 10% is the norm), and once got a 67% tip from two guys that got super drunk (probably a mistake on my favour).

    In one restaurant I was often assigned to be host, waiter, bartender and cashier at the same time, and I never had to tell people I was "too busy" to attend them. So yeah, waiting tables is not rocket science.
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    tstyblucryns Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    I`d say it would have been better to speak to a manager, and I hate it when people do that! But at least it`s not AS annoying and they know that server may need an extra break-or a permanent one.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    @Rick_S: Hence my plight: restaurant owners, pay your servers an honest wage, instead of expecting that the patrons will.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    McGovern, that was so ill written I didn`t bother looking for the message in it. I`m sure there was one.

    I hate these posts. No one was there, it`s all circumstantial, and it always goes back to idiots thinking they`re right and trying to explain why tipping is the Satan`s rooster in Jesus`s ass.... I did that one for all of you who like to troll with religious posts as well.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    At least there`s an explaination for the $0.02 `tip`. Eh?
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    vodooshaman Male 70 & Over
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    If we have this argument one more time
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    the little i know about the restaurant business is this: its one of the hardest to make a good go of, one of the most likely of businesses to fail. that said, i do know that it is a service business and even if you turned water into wine at their table, some people would still skunk you at the end of the night.

    if i were this dis-satisfied i would talk to a manager and then take my business elsewhere.
  40. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    jendrian-"I hate tipping: restaurant owners pay your waitresses"

    I hate the basic premis, also, but it`s the system in place.

    Here`s a clue though. If you are a good at your job, even if your a waiter/watress, you will not be working for less than miminum and crappy tips. If you`re good, and making the owner(s) money, you will be working for a higher base pay, AND probably getting great tips. (although, there will always be bad tippers).

    And, if you don`t like how you`re being paid as a waiter/waitress, then find a job that`s more to your liking.

    I`d prefer for them to make more, also, but I do see two downside to it.:
    1) Food prices would go up, and the market will not like that.
    2) If everyone gets the same wage and tips are not expected, more people who are not willing to put in the extra effort to earn the tip will flood the wait industry. Imagine your waitstaff replaced by the DMV.
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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    Empathy and expectation don`t belong together, Lost.
    I can empathize with a long day at work. But my expectation is that when I`m paying 30 dollars for a meal, my server is punctual and polite.
    If it takes you 5 minutes to even address my table, you`re not getting much of a tip. If you don`t bother to check up on my table, you dont get a tip period.
    Your job description as server is just as it sounds.
    I don`t get tips where I work yet I still go above and beyond to make sure my clients are satisfied. If I had the opportunity to accept tips, I would be banking hard.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    @McGrendel, if you went to a restaurant where your usual order used to be $10, but is now $12, would you not get it anymore?

    I think you`re overestimating how much it would go up in order to keep the same (or even a higher) markup on the owner`s income; and maybe tipping your servers should be suggested, not mandatory
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm
    Note-writer was a huge DEECK. Leaving two cents is a deeck move, no matter the provocation. And I doubt it was much provocation, because as noted the note-writer is a deeeck.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    also, those are canadian pennies, and in Canada waiters don`t get less than minimum wage so... tipping is indeed suggested and the waitress doesn`t go hungry. Everybody wins.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    jendrian-"if you went to a restaurant where your usual order used to be $10, but is now $12, would you not get it anymore?"

    Not if I thought it wasn`t worth $12.

    Restaraunts operate with a VERY SMALL profit margin. (~2% for a restaurant with wait staff). What you see as a `small` expense of raising wages to minimum is, in reality, tripling labor costs.
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    SavageNation Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    Good for the customer. Look, how simple is it? We all have jobs & we`re supposed do our job w/out letting the customers know how crummy it is or what a lousy day we`re having & face it people- Waitresses WORK for tips essentially so again, way to go Customer. It wasn`t offensive, crass or full of vulgarity. Clever & hopefully the waitress will think twice about how he/she treats PAYING customers.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    I wonder if he`s ever been a waiter. If it was clear that she was doing her best, then he is being a knob. If she wasn`t doing her best, then he was being a condescending knob. If you don`t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all.
  48. Profile photo of SethDog
    SethDog Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    YAYE!! We don`t tip here in New Zealand and that is AWESOME!!!!
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm
    @McGrendel: But what you pay hasn`t changed, my assumption is that you used to pay $10 + $2 tip, but now they`ve changed it to flat $12. So you would leave because "it`s not worth $12", even though that`s exactly what you used to pay?
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    agentsmith41 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    @MeGrendel
    I`m not sure where you get your information but restaurants do no operate with a small profit margin. Actually the markup on food is massive. Take a bowl of pasta. It probably costs them, with labor, about $1.50 to make. they sell the bowl of pasta for anywhere from $8 all the way up to $17 and even more depending on what`s in it. that`s a 450% profit margin on the $8 pasta alone. Their profit margin is well over what you think it is. Probably one of the bigger profit margins in many industries.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    Clever & hopefully the waitress will think twice about how he/she treats PAYING customers.

    Here`s a scenario. It`s a real one, from my own experience. Not in a restaurant, but in a customer service business.

    1 servant.

    14 customers to be served *seperately and at the same time*.

    The servant only has a few options:

    i) Ignore customers who are waiting while they serve other customers.

    ii) Apologise to customers who are waiting while they serve other customers and explain what is causing the wait.

    iii) Quit the job.

    Unless you think servants can magically generate golem copies of themselves so that every customer can be served immediately, your position isn`t feasible.

    As others have pointed out, who`s in the right depends on whether she was genuinely too busy or making an excuse.

    It`s easy for the aristocrats to simply assume that the peasants are just making excuses. Lazy se
  52. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    Here`s another scenario: you walk into a place with 1 server attending 14 customers separately and at the same time.

    If you`re an intelligent human being, you think: "sh*t, it`s busy, service will be terrible" and either knowingly put up with it or leave.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    Restaraunts operate with a VERY SMALL profit margin. (~2% for a restaurant with wait staff).

    I find that very hard to believe. The cost to buy food and drink for a business is far, far lower than the prices charged to customers. Markups of 500% are not unheard of at the cheap end. At the expensive end, you can mark up pretty much however much you want.

    There are other costs, of course, but I very much doubt if they reduce a 500% margin to a 2% margin, or even a 250% margin to a 2% margin.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Wanker.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    Here`s another scenario: you walk into a place with 1 server attending 14 customers separately and at the same time.

    If you`re an intelligent human being, you think: "sh*t, it`s busy, service will be terrible" and either knowingly put up with it or leave.

    Which is what I would do. But not everyone will. Some will stay and complain. There are people who want to complain more than they want to be served.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    Actually, since he must have photographed and posted,double wanker.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    mal_BB-" If you don`t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all."

    Says the man who`s calling the tipper a `knob` and has this as an icon:

  58. Profile photo of xfactormunky
    xfactormunky Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    @Jendrian I hate tipping: restaurant owners pay your waitresses, I don`t see why I have to.

    really? you don`t see why you have to? do you know what the tip is paying for? when you pay the check, you are paying for the food and drink you consumed, when you tip, you are paying for the service you received. Not tipping at all is basically stealing service, provided your server wasn`t terrible. Not tipping at all is completely unacceptable, even with bad service, you should always tip at least 3%, because in most restaurants, the servers have to pay 3% of their sales to the bussers/bartenders, and that comes out of their tips, so if you stiff them, then they actually paying to wait on you. If tipping wasn`t expected, good service would go out the window. why would a server want to try to make sure you have a pleasurable dining experience if they knew they were gonna make the same amount on their pay check either way? If you don`t want to tip, don`t go to a sit down restaurant.
  59. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    jendrian-"But what you pay hasn`t changed, my assumption is that you used to pay $10 + $2 tip, but now they`ve changed it to flat $12."

    Simple, because I do not consider the tip part of the ticket.

    I`d gladly pay $10 for a $10 burger, and tip the waitress $2 for average service, $5 for good service and much more for excellent service. (I have, in fact, tipped over 100%).

    But, I will not pay $12 for a $10 burger.

    If you can`t see the difference, then you don`t know what`s going on.

    agentsmith41-"restaurants do no operate with a small profit margin"
    Angilion-"I find that very hard to believe."

    Full service restaurants: Profit margin between 1.8 - 3.5%
    Limited sercie restaurants: Profit margin ~6%
    (seeing as we`re talking tips for wait staff, that`s considered a full service restaurant)
    source: "2010 Operations Report" by the National Restaurant Association and Deloitte & Touc
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    @xfactormunky,
    "if they knew they were going to make the same either way service would go out the window"

    Ask New Zealanders if their service is terrible and has gone "out the window"; also in Canada they make at least minimum wage, so there should be no reason to pay extra.

    Sorry but places where tipping is not normal don`t suffer any of the ails you all tipping-supporters claim: markup in prices and sh*tty service. It just doesn`t happen.

    I can see how you can imagine that would happen in theory, but in practice you don`t see that.
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    "Just my 2 cents". OH SNAP!
  62. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm
    @McGrendel, you`re just not seeing that the $12 are paying for is burger + service, not just the burger. Isn`t that a deal? If you feel like you didn`t pay enough everyone welcomes you giving them extra money.
  63. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    "I hate tipping: restaurant owners pay your waitresses, I don`t see why I have to."

    really? you don`t see why you have to? do you know what the tip is paying for? when you pay the check, you are paying for the food and drink you consumed, when you tip, you are paying for the service you received.

    The employer employs the servant to provide that service as part of the employer`s business. So why do you think the employer shouldn`t pay them for doing the job that the employer employs them to do?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    *standing ovation*

    I think you jumped gun there bub. For all we know this guy`s just a lousy customer who just likes to complain.
  65. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    It`s funny how I never see anybody saying: "omg this food was awesome, I feel like the cook deserves more than the $10 this dish costed, I should pay them extra", how come you never "tip" anybody else in the restaurant for an exceptional execution of their job?

    Can we also not pay if the food wasn`t up to standard? Why are waiters the only ones where you, the customer, get to decide their wage?
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    Spending a lot of time in diners,I can say that sometimes 2 cents is right on the money! (sorry for the pun)
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    tips goes for the chef too moron, so, unless the food sucked you suck
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    tips goes for the chef too moron, so, unless the food sucked you suck

    Is this based on the restaurants you eat at?
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    Brometheus Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    "There are people who want to complain more than they want to be served."

    THIS.
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    malafanango Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    I am a the Kitchen Manager at the Restaurant I work at, and while the girls take home $100-200 every night in tips the kitchen staff gets about $50 a month in tips. It is nothing really all they do with it is pay down their tabs with it. It has been this or similar at every place I have worked at since I started as dishwasher 15 years ago.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm
    If the server was in fact telling every one of their customers that they were busy, the two cents is more than I would give. I know it`s busy... I`m eating here. Shut the drat up and do your job.
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    YugureKage Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    So just going by the note left on the napkin...I feel like this is a hard call (Just or not). There are many factors we don`t know, like maybe the waitress was new and stuff. But still, I have had really terrible service before and wanted to leave notes like this one. I have before in fact, but only when it pertained to the food being like not cooked all the way or something. I usually try to tip above the 15% or 20% or whatever unless the service and food was awful because yes, tips are divided out among many people in the restaurant from Hostesses to Busboys. Plus, working in a restaurant is physically difficult and stressful. If my server manages to smile at me I`m inclined to leave a tip.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Canadian pennies too, now that`s a real insult.
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    dudeman1st Male 30-39
    1354 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    What I hate is that every place expects tips now. Guess what? It takes no brains to take plates to a table or to pour a cup of coffee. An associate lawyer makes 40-60 dollars an hour, and a doctor doing residency makes the same or even less. We don`t tip them even though their services are marked up drastically by their law firm or hospital. By every server`s stupid logic (paid much less than service is worth), should we tip lawyers and doctors too?
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    optix_reverb Male 18-29
    263 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    looks to be Canadian cents. That`s 2.0327 American cents.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    jendrian-"you`re just not seeing that the $12 are paying for is burger + service"

    I see exactly what you`re sayinng, I`m explaining how I look at it. They are not required to be equivelent.

    jendrian-"how come you never "tip" anybody else in the restaurant for an exceptional execution of their job?"

    You don`t? Shame on you. I do. Plus, I`m much more likely to approach the manager to tell of the excellent service I`ve received that the bad service.

    dudeman1st-"takes no brains to take plates to a table or to pour a cup of coffee."

    I agree, and don`t usually tip for someone pouring a cup of coffee. Now, if they had a sunny disposition and made me smile, they get a tip even if all they did was hand me the creamer.

    dudeman1st-"We don`t tip them "

    And I don`t pay them for their sunny disposition or happy attitude. I pay doctors to be good at their job.
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    PirateNinja Female 13-17
    121 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    Dudeman, lots of servers don`t even get paid minimum wage because their employers count their tips as their income. So yes, not tipping servers is just being an effing asshat.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    @MeGrendel: Excuse me if I mistook you for misunderstanding when you said: "I wouldn`t pay $12 for a $10 burger", when it`s not really paying $12 for the burger, but for the burger + service package. They`re not required to be equivalent everywhere but where you always, without exception, get the two together.

    You don`t? Shame on you. I do. Plus, I`m much more likely to approach the manager to tell of the excellent service I`ve received that the bad service.

    Yeah buddy I`ll need a little bit more evidence that you literally tip everybody else at the restaurant for exceptional service, instead of just assuming your tip is going to be divided the way you felt like it should`ve.

    In any case, even if you do, that is not the standard and it really shouldn`t be. If an employer offers a service to the customer, the customer should not be directly responsible for the wages of the employees.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
    254 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    I`m a waitress. I make $4.65 an hour. I provide excellent service. I am told that I did an amazing job by the guest. The manager gets called over so that I am given a compliment. Then that same guest leaves $0.00 as a tip. I have now spent an an hour of my time running my butt of for a table. At the end, I made $4.65 for the hour minus taxes. Sounds great right?
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    thank you aliyahg1979, for the prime example of why tipping, instead of paying your workers, is a stupid idea
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    GlockPants Male 18-29
    163 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm
    I`ve worked as a pizza delivery driver for a few years in the past. Sure it was annoying to get stiffed, but when customers were habitually bad/no tippers we would go out of our way to give them less than satisfactory service (i.e. take their order last/no cheese or pepper for them). Didn`t matter to me since I made enough good tips from customers who appreciated the service.

    Simple truth of the matter is, if you want good service, tip well or at least something that isn`t insulting. If you tip poorly/no tip you won`t come back for service and the people serving you are happy about that.

    But no one is forcing you to tip. So if you don`t want to, that`s your decision. Just realize you`re also choosing to be a dick.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    @GlockPants: No cheese on a pizza? I would never order again from your pizza place.
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    tyger9575 Male 30-39
    297 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:49 pm
    Like the tip didn`t suck badly enough, but CANADIAN pennies on top of it? First chapter in DOUCHEBAGGERY 101.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    Maybe it`s not the waitresses fault if the restaurant is overcrowded? It all depends on how she acted of course. If she apologized for being so busy I say she deserved a real tip. If she was a bitch about it than it makes more sense.
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    GlockPants Male 18-29
    163 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    @ jendrian

    Parmesan cheese (if you could call such a product cheese) the stuff that comes in the packets. Sorry for the confusion.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    haha oh, I see
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    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    SarahofBorg, I bet she was the former.
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    rickbub Male 40-49
    293 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    @ aliyahg1979... I tended bar for a very long time, and learned something early in that career: If a customer goes out of their way to make a show of expressing to you how wonderful your service to them is... you`re gonna get screwed on the tip. Almost always. Seems these dickwads think that their compliments are gold, and surely can be used to pay your rent, utilities, food, etc.
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    the_windy Female 18-29
    1589 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    I`ve never once had a server say they are too busy. I`ve had them tell me that this is not their section (I was asking for a refill to a waitress that wasn`t mine...sue me I was thirsty), but then she told me that she`ll let my server know.
    At least this person wrote a note explaining the crappy tip. But I still wouldn`t have just given them 2 cents. 10% is the lowest I`ve ever done. I`ll maybe go down to 5% if I was real pissed.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    jendrian-"I`ll need a little bit more evidence that you literally tip everybody else"

    Evidence of a personal action on the interweb? How new are you to this?

    Nor do I tip `everybody else`...BUT
    I WILL tip a cook if I asked for something out of the ordinary.
    I HAVE tipped over 100%.
    I HAVE NEVER complimented a waiter/waitress without ALSO leaving an excellent tip.
    I HAVE gotten people fired for extraordinarily horrible service.
    I HAVE slipped the guy at KFC a fiver because he busted his butt to accomodate me when in reality he could have said, `sorry, we`re out`.

    I also tend to be a soft touch when the Shrinners or some school/organization are collecting at intersections.

    I am known as an excellent, and fair, tipper. After one instance of bad service at a place I frequent I left an appropriate tip (bad). When this server (new girl) complained about my tip her co-workers (who know me) asked her "How`d you screw up
  91. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    @MeGrendel: again, even if that`s the case, that`s only you, it`s not the norm and rightfully so, for you -the customer- to be in charge of their wages.
  92. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    jendrian-" it`s not the norm "

    I`ve said from the beginning I would PREFER for the wait staff to earn more and not depend on tips, but it IS the system we have.

    jendrian-"and rightfully so, for you -the customer- to be in charge of their wages."

    Actually, the customer IS the best person to be in charge of their wages. The the customer IS. The CUSTOMER is the one who decides what businesses to frequent. If a business has a crappy staff, they lose business. The CUSTOMER not showing up will dictate whether the shop hires better staff OR closes its doors.

    Remember, the business (and the staff) are their for the customers` sake. The customers are not there for the businesses` (and staffs`) sake.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    @MeGrendel: yet you keep arguing for the advantages, and virtues of the tipping system which, as proven by New Zealand, are non-existent, and as proven by every waiter in this thread, do not work as intended.

    And no, you, the customer, are not the best person to decide their wage, just as you can`t decide how much the people at a reception desk, or the nurses get paid, you shouldn`t be able to decide how much the waiters get paid, because as this image shows, you don`t know the waiters or the dynamics of the specific business where the employee works.

    You, the customer, are who the service that the employer is offering is directed to.

    Is it really so hard to understand that other countries that demand at least minimum wage to their workers did not go through this difficult period of transition? Is it really that hard to understand that the tipping system doesn`t benefit neither patrons nor customers?
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    13char Female 70 & Over
    6 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm
    Wrong.

    Your recourse is to avoid the restaurant and/or the waiter in the future.

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    swoop408 Male 18-29
    1754 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    Let Reservoir Dogs Handle This....
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    clone_of_god Male 18-29
    109 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 9:44 pm
    Does anyone really ever learn anything from these pretentious notes?

    If the purpose is to point out someone`s flaws, shouldn`t it be done more personally?

    To me these types of notes sound too agressive.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm
    Anyone who`s worked as a server will say "wrong."
    Anyone who has endured terrible service from someone who expects a tip will say "right."
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    Isykle Male 18-29
    29 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 10:27 pm
    This guy sounds like a pretentious jerk who wouldn`t tip anyway.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2588 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 10:29 pm
    If you`re not pulling $500 or more in tips a night, you`re stripping at the wrong club.
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    YANKmyDOODLE Male 30-39
    771 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm
    crappy waiters get no tip!
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    JoexBro Male 18-29
    546 posts
    May 1, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    I have served and been terribly served. Hes right though, a really good server can keep up with it no matter how busy it is, thats how you make the good money.
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
    2988 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 12:47 am
    The customer is an non-nice individual hands down.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
    2334 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 2:11 am
    Maybe a bit dickish, but true.

    If you want extra money, you have to give extra effort.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 4:21 am
    @tyger9575

    "Like the tip didn`t suck badly enough, but CANADIAN pennies on top of it? First chapter in DOUCHEBAGGERY 101."

    The photo could have been from Canada.

    Wow. I`m actually stunned that thought never crossed your mind.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6181 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 5:33 am
    carmium-"Anyone who`s worked as a server will say "wrong."
    Anyone who has endured terrible service from someone who expects a tip will say "right."

    As one who has both served and been served:
    When I was the server, I realized it way my job to make the patron`s experience as pleasant as possible (i.e. no bitching)
    When I am served, I realize that it is the servers job to my my experience as pleasant as possible (i.e. no bitching).

    There are several reason why I no long work in the service industry:
    1) The pay sucks, so I decided, correctly, I could do better outside the service industry.
    2) The 99% of my customers who were happy with my service did not make up for the 1% of douchbags.
    3) I don`t follow the adage `The customer is always right`, sometimes the customer is an idiot, and I have a tendency to inform them of their idiocy.
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    mqRed Male 18-29
    6 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 6:02 am
    I`m good at my job. I work the floor of a very busy cafe, I have from 12-30 (tables get pulled apart/put together) tables that I have to cater for by myself. I`m overworked and underpaid. I`m not always going to be able to give you the best service. But if you would like to write a note like that, I would give you the oppurtunity to try and handle the stress of my job for 5 minutes and see if you can keep up.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
    3061 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 6:06 am

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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 7:45 am
    Canadian pennies too, now that`s a real insult.

    Like the tip didn`t suck badly enough, but CANADIAN pennies on top of it? First chapter in DOUCHEBAGGERY 101.
    Why are you assuming this restaurant is in America? And besides, our dollar is worth 2 cents more than your puny dollar, but that`s just my "2 cents." ;)
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 7:50 am
    I don`t care much for customary tipping for crummy service. Saying that not leaving a tip is unacceptable (when service was bad), imo, is ridiculous. It`s not my fault you were a crummy server and now you have to make up the difference or make less than minimum wage for my table. I also don`t own the restaurant, so how am I responsible for your pay?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Tips are not a given. Dont expect them unless service is excellent. even then dont bitch if you don`t get one. If the hourly wage is not enuf to get by on, find another job. Simple.
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    reefaleaf420 Male 18-29
    89 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 9:45 am
    agreed with mqRed

    turdburgler: tips are actually a given, unless youre in canada or another country than the U.S.

    when we get tipped we claim the tips and a portion of our pay check is taken out. so in reality were getting our base wage knocked down from 8 to 6 dollars.

    if you dont want to tip, the food will be a lot more expensive. you may suck it.
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    rickwhite Male 30-39
    151 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 11:03 am
    drat a server`s sense of entitlement to tips. Seriously.
    If you do a crappy job, you don`t deserve a tip.
    I tip. I tip VERY well if they earn it. If they suck, I still tip, but it is far below the suggested percentage.
    I`ve worked a job that was deemed "tip-able" and I hustled my ass... to EARN the tips. If I gave poor service, and didn`t receive a tip, I understood.
    I`ve also worked commission sales... where your ENTIRE income is affected by your customer service skills.
    If you don`t feel like SERVING customers well, get another job that isn`t based purely on SERVING a customer directly. Christ.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
    1558 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    I give very, very good service and when some douche stiffs me , i feel i`ve been robbed. And it ain`t my fault the kitchen takes too long. Don`t take it out on me!!
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1811 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    I dont mind tipping, and will tip extra for above-average service. The amount can go down, too, for poor service/drama/blame it on something else/snotty attitude/you are lucky I am even serving you.

    The written letter ?? Only if eating there is a one-time thing, and you dont plan to ever set foot in there again....
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Anyone see a pattern of cheap Frenchmen emerging here??
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    Dieperson Male 18-29
    19 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    My god, this guy`s grammar is TERRIBLE.

    On topic: this guy claims the waiter was rude and perhaps he was, nonetheless this was just a snarky attempt at being clever. There are many ways he could`ve been less douchey about it.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1811 posts
    May 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    @McGovern1981. You think everyone from canada is french ?? LOL !!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    May 3, 2012 at 8:44 am
    @lawndartsftw

    No but I think many French are cheap.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
    2556 posts
    May 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
    I thought it was funny, but an actual note is probably over the top. If the service isn`t good, it isn`t deserving of a tip, imo.
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    Azaram Male 40-49
    130 posts
    May 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Gradde; you always leave a tip... If you don`t tip, they just think you forgot, put it on the credit card, or were cheap. This one gets the point across that you are not being cheap, there`s a reason the waitress got the bad tip.
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    nuharoo Female 30-39
    23 posts
    June 1, 2012 at 10:10 am
    unless the waiter/waitress was extremely rude, a two cent tip is just being an asshat douchbag

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