The Treaty Of Tripoli, 1797 Billboard [Pic]

Submitted by: ffi 4 years ago

Then explain "In God We Trust."
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Male 1,059
For an organization called the "Freethough Alliance", they sure do spend a lot of time and money trying to get everyone else to think like they do.
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Male 294
I feel like this issue is kind of silly in general. That includes putting it up there.

and joeblows, there`s a reason they throw a big `opinion` above that article. You sound a lot like one of those `internet crazies`; they have a ridiculously inflated (and baseless) sense of self-importance and believe their intellect to be astounding. They`re always the only ones who do, since usually they`re delusional invalids, like in this case. You`ve even got the whole angry-sped sounding insults mixed in, just to make sure you fit the bill extra well.

I think everyone realizes the reason they`re online ranting to being with is because in RL they`re basically autistic in their social abilities. PLEASE do stop coming here. Clearly the world simply doesn`t understand your intellect, so feel free to keep sitting alone convincing yourself we`re all just blind idiots until the day you die. We`ll all go on not knowing you exist.
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Male 1,293
Declaring something to be so, even about one`s own intentions and motivations, does not make it so. Regardless of whether they intended to use Christian principles in founding the USA they can no more divorce themselves from their Christian cultural roots than I, an atheist European, can. Had they fled an Islamic nation or a Buddhist nation to start a New World that country would have been very different.
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Male 72
"Half a century ago, at the height of anti-Communist fervor, Congress added the words ``under God`` to the Pledge of Allegiance. It was a petty attempt to link patriotism with religious piety, to distinguish us from the godless Soviets. But after millions of repetitions over the years, the phrase has become part of the backdrop of American life, just like the words ``In God We Trust`` on our coins and ``God bless America`` uttered by presidents at the end of important speeches. "Yesterday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in California ruled 2 to 1 that those words in the pledge violate the First Amendment, which says that ``Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.`` that all was from 2002 in a nytimes article
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Male 72
zach82 dear lord you are an idiot!!! "one nation under god" was also something fanatical Christians with their hoards of tax free money, added to the pledge in the 1900`s, through congress. here, do some reading, lest it hurts your head too much. www.nytimes.com/2002/06/27/ opinion/one-nation-under-god.html
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Male 72
"in god we trust" , you moron, was added to MONEY in the 50`s ... sometimes i can`t stand the idiocy of people on this site... so i rarely stop by. but man, that deserved a comment.
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Male 1,832
How long until this gets taken down and someone gets sued for violating some butthurt christian`s rights?
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Male 1,558
But sadly, they`re winning
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Male 10,845
[quote] History has shown over and over where that sort of amorality leads to, Tyranny. [/quote]

Actually history shows quite the opposite, religion being used to justify tyranny.
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Male 23
The official national motto of the US is "E Pluribus Unum".
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Male 439
I`ll explain it to you, you idiot. It was added to money in 1956, has never been the official motto of the United States, and it should never have happened. Read g** d***** history book, fool.
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Male 395
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No religion means no moral basis for law. That means you can justify any means to fit the ends. History has shown over and over where that sort of amorality leads to, Tyranny.[/quote]

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Male 319
Drat, mixed up "In God we Trust" with "One nation under God." Oh well...
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Male 319
I find the whole ritual itself of making children daily swear fealty to the flag altogether vile. Swear allegiance to God or goodness or justice or what have you, but not a nation state.
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Male 17,512
SmagBoy: [quote]There is no "Atheist Agenda"[/quote]

Bullsh|t it`s goals are plain to see on nearly any atheist website. Nothing less than the destruction of all religion and culture worldwide in order to force everyone to be "Equal".

No religion means no moral basis for law. That means you can justify any means to fit the ends. History has shown over and over where that sort of amorality leads to, Tyranny.
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Male 833
god is not a christian belief
god is a thiest belief
all religions worship a god or gods
and there are non-religious theists
and agnostics
saying `god` doesnt automatically make it christian
it just makes it not athiest
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Male 1,737
Uhhhh.....I would count at least one of them being christian as any sense. Some people just want to start a fight no one can win. What I mean is, it was clearly a mix of beliefs, which is what makes the country great. So to say that it was all one sided is nonsense, i.e. to say they were all christian or all not.
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Male 4,431
Why can`t Christians just believe on their own without drating with other people? Why not just leave your laws to yourselves?
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Male 4,431
CrakrJak, you might say [quote]whodat: Let me fix that for you, it should read, "I read an atheist`s website cherry picking Jewish Torah rules and falsely applies them to Christians, I`m atheist because I think it makes me look cool and smardurr."[/quote], but, until you`re ready to completely denounce the OT as completely and totally invalidated by the NT, you`ve got not ground stand on. You and your ilk cherry pick from the OT, too.

And, for your information, Atheism is not a singular entity or belief system. Actually, its the complete and total opposite. Atheism is not believing in a god or gods. There is no "Atheist Agenda" because the only thing we all have in common in that we don`t believe in a higher power.

You know the on thing that brings us together? Christians in the US trying to drating shove their beliefs down our throats via the law. Why can`t Christians just believe on their own without drating with other people? Why not jus
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Male 771
lol there are more gods than just the christian one. whoever posted this is an ignoramus.
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Male 3,482
Xprez

Because placing hope in some imaginary almighty being in the sky to save you from your sh­itty life rather than actually doing something to fix that life and placing hope in yourself, your friends (unless you`re a total failure at life and your imaginary friend is your ONLY friend) and science (you know, that thing that actually DOES SH­IT in this world?) to better this world, only holds us all back.

Especially when those "hopeful" morons try to restrain the rest of us with the archaic rules they learned from a book of stories, the legitimacy of which is based on nothing but pure circular logic.

As long as there are people who believe in imaginary almighty beings, especially ones that create us with "free will" then tell us how to use it and bitchslap us to eternal suffering if we use it wrong, we will never achieve our fullest potential.
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Male 766
xprez - All that some people have is hope. Sometimes that hope is in God. Why take that away?

There is no place for religion in government or education. Hope all you like in the privacy of your own home. These ancient superstitious religions will be the downfall of modern man.
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Male 316
@kedaver
Thanks for printing the actual statement. Puts things into context.
@spaztazoid
Congratulations.
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Female 7,833
I still find it ridiculous how America has this kind of argument. As though it matters one bit, most 1st world people do not believe in God ( apart from the US) and for those who do religion is a minor thing in their lives. Only fanatics behave like idiots- and usually because they have a bad education. Most non-american believers I know are sensible and decent- whatever religion they follow, so perhaps the answer is to make sure children recieve an excellent education- with science and CRITICAL THINKING coming high on the list...
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Male 676
All that some people have is hope. Sometimes that hope is in God. Why take that away? Never understood the incessant need to rid the world of God because of some skewed view of people that believe in God really are about. Not everyone is a "Puritan".
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Female 313
ffi needs to do some research, then he`ll know where In God We Trust comes from. Idiot.
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Female 1,566
"Reading the Bible at a young age really is what made me an atheist."

See, for me it was the eight years of RE. Or maybe it was being damned to hell verbally by a deacon for eating a kitkat bar during RE. Just seemed silly by that point.
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Male 184
Which god TheGuySmiley?
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Female 6,381
All nations need to get rid of God.
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Male 321
@CrakrJak

Reading the Bible at a young age really is what made me an Atheist. How anyone could trust a book that has so many inconsistencies, so much cruelty, and then call it "the word of God," astounds me.
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Male 1,243
All nations need God
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Male 453
Poor persecuted misunderstood christians. they`re the true victims (in their own twisted minds).
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Male 208
"In God We Trust" gained momentum during the Civil War. The country was literally pinning brother against brother and the country was in desperate need of hope.
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Male 17,512
whodat: Let me fix that for you, it should read, "I read an atheist`s website cherry picking Jewish Torah rules and falsely applies them to Christians, I`m atheist because I think it makes me look cool and smardurr."
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Male 4,431
@kedaver: Thank you, Dude!

@markust123: You`re on fire!

Kudos to you both. :-)
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Male 4,287
"..and the Christian baiting continues."

And the gay baiting. And the political baiting. And the fat baiting. And the Chad baiting. And the race baiting. And the sexist baiting...

Let me just change your sentence around here: And the passive aggression continues.
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Male 3,909

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Male 17,512
...and the Christian baiting continues.

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Male 220
God has nothing to do with the tenants of freedom that the new world offered the pilgrims. They were religious, but they founded the U.S. on the freedom of the individual, nothing to do with God.
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Male 4,287
At the hight of the Cold War Congress made "In God we Trust" our countries motto. This was to differentiate themselves from those crazy communists (atheists). That is how f*cking childish members of congress are. They are borderline retarded. Two years earlier in 1954 they added "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance. I bet our founding fathers were rolling in their graves.
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Male 5,413
Hellz yeah!
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Male 15,510
Here we go
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Male 2,143
If we don`t have a national religion,why are christmas and easter federal holidays?
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Female 89
This is an easy one. "God" in this instance is defined as the hidden hand which controls the markets. Financial capitalists consider THAT to be God. So, what they actually mean when they say "In God We Trust" is that they have faith in the markets. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with religion or Christianity.
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Male 1,444
Excellent post DrProfessor
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Male 13
Freethought alliance did not share tha actual statement:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

The government was founded to be separate from religion as to prevent the founding of a nationalized religion in order to allow all people the freedom to practice their beliefs or lack of.
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Male 715
yeah, because religious persecution only applies to christians Burgh...
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Female 152
Nope, gonna be mormon soon anyway.
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Male 3,894
`In God We Trust` wasn`t adopted as a motto until 1956. It occasionally appeared on coins starting in 1864, and not on paper currency until 1957.
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Male 300
"Then explain `In God We Trust."

Google the phrase maybe?

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Male 50
I`m confused as to how "In God We Trust" translates on to Christian Beliefs. America was founded on a war.

Besides that many people think that there must be some sort of higher being than humans anyway.
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Male 1,048
In god we trust was added..Idk specific dates. Or maybe I`m wrong
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Female 156
Link: The Treaty Of Tripoli, 1797 Billboard [Pic] [Rate Link] - Then explain `In God We Trust.`
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