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43 Responses to Paul Cameron Claims Gays Want Everyone to “Try it“

  1. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 15, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Link: Paul Cameron Claims Gays Want Everyone to ``Try it`` - `The long term goal is to get every little boy to grab his ankles`
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 19, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    If gays want every kid to try it, why are all the pedophiles straight men?
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    and this whole time i thought the gays were just normal people that wanted equal rights instead of discrimination. boy was i wrong! thanks to mr cameron i now know they really have some crazy diabolical plan! (rushes to go get tin foil hat back on... and maybe one of those analbumcovers i heard sean conery talk about...)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 19, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    vv @Gerry1, those Cathoilc priests molesting all those boys? None of them were women...

    Sorry to use your own arguements against you, but:
    Those men molesting boys were homosexuals, they were born that way and it`s not their fault! It`s perfectly natural, look at ancient Greece, and dozens of other cultures where men and boys freely expressed their (sexual) love. Look at Bonobo monkies, they have sex acts with children too!

    NOW I`m going to get flamed for AGREEING with the homosexualist movement, lolz!

    This guy sounds kooky, and he`s taking things to extremes, BUT there is a hard-core group of people who want exactly that.
    MAN-BOY LOVE!
    Deal with the facts.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    I like how people come up with conspiracies in which entire unconnected groups of people are trying to secretly coerce people into doing something against their will, but meanwhile can`t get people to understand the simple things they are saying actively and publicly.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Why would the rulers of the gay agenda let this guy in on their secrets?
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    When an organization has the word "family" in it, you know they`re crazy..
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    `Homosexual ACTS does not make the animal a full-out "homosexual" ok? That is humans projecting their belief systems on wild creatures.`

    - 5Cats, May 15th

    `those Cathoilc priests molesting all those boys? None of them were women...

    Sorry to use your own arguements against you, but:
    Those men molesting boys were homosexuals.`

    5Cats, Today

    Sorry to use your own arguments against you.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    @ 5Cats - Wrong again. Pedophiles are 98% heterosexual men. Yes, they do go after boys but not because of preferance, it`s because of "availability". Men usually are not allowed to associate with girls-clubs or girl events. Not unsupervised, anyway. Youger boys are androgynous enough to meet their desire and available to them, but they`d rather have a girl.

    Or in other cases, the pedophile is acting out the same abuse he went through as a child, hence the need for a boy. But he`s still a straight man.

    5Cats, Knowledge Is Power: Get some and be powerful!
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    spbm02 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Marriage is just a step along the way?? Wouldnt you want them to "try it" before they got married??
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    @5cats: I hope you realize you`re describing pedophiles, not homosexuals ?..

    The difference? One of them is a consensual act, the other is statutory rape. ´

    Also, a large majority of pedophiles are straight men, so claiming some connection between the two groups is kind of stupid.
  12. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Madest: Maybe because he`s a closeted gay man?

    Cameron talks about overcoming attraction to men
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    "Homosexualist"-the last time I hear this word spoken it was by a Georgian man who I swear lacked the necessary IQ points to breathe and blink at the same time.

    Leaving aside for the moment the fact that it *does* (as another poster once pointed out) sound like someone who does something gay (like kisses someone) and runs away, while costumed and masked like a comic book character...
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    Furthermore equating gayness with pedophilia is the oldest canard in the anti gay book. There is a huge difference between attraction to an adult of the same sex and attraction to kids. For one thing, gay men are attracted to the same secondary sex characteristics that straight women are ie. deep voices, muscles, ect. ect. while a pedo isn`t, they don`t find adult men attractive.

    And that`s that.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    May 19, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    I`ve never heard of this whackadoodle before, but my guess is he`s externalizing his own personal torments.
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    Willowwatch Female 30-39
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    May 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    wouldn`t turning everyone gay be counter productive in the long run? they would need to farm breeder just keep the species going
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    May 19, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    @FP: Are you now admitting I am correct? I state clearly that I`m simply applying YOUR own rules to this question, if you cannot understand that you need to read up on "Logic 101".

    Sorry @Gerry1, but applying "Homosexualist`s" (eat it @QueenZira, it`s a perfectly valid term!) OWN rules to the situation: these men are gay, at the very least bi-sexuals, yes?

    Simply saying "Oh, those gay men over there doing homosexual acts are not REALLY gay men" isn`t going to cut it. According to your rules, bi-sexuals get counted into the "homosexual" side (that`s how the outrageously high "10%" is achieved, fyi).

    And is anyone denying the existance of pedophile groups? They`re called "man-boy love" for a reason...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    5Cats, "Sorry @Gerry1, but applying "Homosexualist`s" (eat it @QueenZira, it`s a perfectly valid term!) OWN rules to the situation: these men are gay, at the very least bi-sexuals, yes?"
    Would you please explain to a poor, uneducated homosexual like me what these "Homosexualist Rules" are? I do hope I haven`t broken any Homsexualist Rules, they might take my Gay Card away from me.

    LOL... what a maroon!


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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    May 19, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    Nobody is denying that Pedophile Groups exist, however saying that gays drive pedophile an outright falsehood. THe University of New Hampshire published a Sexual Abuse Factsheet (by Emily M. Douglas and David Finkelhor) that show girls are 3x`s more likely to be a victim of sexual abuse then a boy will. Using the logic that some anti-gay activist use, then being heterosexual is 3 times more likely to cause pedophile then being homosexual.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    May 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm
    Oh, those gay men over there doing homosexual acts are not REALLY gay men

    Of course not, they`re called MSM. Being straight or gay doesn`t just entail sexual behavoir it`s romantic as well. The word "bisexual" also has different meaning pending on context. A bisexual person is capable of having romantic relationships with either gender or simply has no preference either way, whereas a bisexual act can involve both sexes.
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    ExtraCredit Male 50-59
    451 posts
    May 19, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    "...and maybe is forced..."
    Every child? Like we make them go to school or brush their teeth?
    This guy sounds authoritative on the subject. We should totally take him seriously. 5cats too.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
    766 posts
    May 20, 2012 at 3:12 am
    there is no god, just leave the gays alone
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 20, 2012 at 4:59 am
    If gays want every kid to try it, why are all the pedophiles straight men?

    They`re not, obviously. You`re just showing your own irrational prejudice, just like someone saying that all the paedophiles are gay men, or someone saying that all drug dealers aren`t "whites", or someone saying that all abusers of any kind are male. Same prejudice, different groups - "all <bad thing> is done by <target group>". Or, if you take it a bit further, "all <target group> do <bad thing>".
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    Fancysucksss Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 5:11 am
    Omg. these people need to be retrained.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 20, 2012 at 5:12 am
    There are some great examples of this logical fallacy going on here:

    No true Scotsman!




    So...next time a politician who speaks against homosexuality is found to have been having homosexual sex often and is publically derided as a hypocrite as a result, ruining their political career, who here is going to speak out in their favour and say they`re not hypocrites?

    You`re going to do that, Cajun247? After all, you think that those men are NOT homosexual, right? They`re not having romantic homosexual relationships, they`re having homosexual sex.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    May 20, 2012 at 6:49 am
    paul cameron is a sodomite, so is 5Cats.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 20, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Don`t pick on 5Cats.
    He can`t help being born a Heterosexualist.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3774 posts
    May 20, 2012 at 8:52 am
    i didn`t know i liked broccoli with cheese until i tried it.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 20, 2012 at 9:30 am
    "Family Research Institute" basically, that means Bigotry Inc.

    "Right Wing Watch" - is that like "Night Watch"?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    May 20, 2012 at 9:30 am
    @Viking: So girls are 3X more likely, but male heteros outnumber homos by about 15X, so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man. BY YOUR FIGURES (I`m making no such claim, I`m pointing out what his facts mean, ok?)

    Thanks @Angilion! This is about logic and reasoning, I`m glad someone `gets it!`

    @Gerry1: From the `born vs learned` threads. The `born` side consistantly claimed that gay acts `made you gay` in both humans and animals, k? Applying that reasoning here, men having gay sex with boys = homosexual, period.

    PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 10:22 am
    PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!

    They`d be wrong most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Angilion: Those politicians you refer to typically speak out against anything that deviates from a heterosexual relationship or heteronormativity. So no a heterosexual politician who loudly denounces homosexual activity while satisfying their own sexual curiosity is still a hypocrite.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    May 20, 2012 at 11:09 am
    5cats: "PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!"

    I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way. Just because it was a choice for you doesn`t mean it applies to everyone.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 11:24 am
    so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man

    That math makes no sense.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.
    @Cajun that has nothing to do with the "Born that way" arguement. It just means people like to have sex with people they know, most of the time. Drunken nights in Vegas aside...

    I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way.
    No @jtreb, you weren`t. You`ve been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all...

    @Cajun: if 3X more girls are molested than boys, but there`s 15X more hetero- than homo- men (assuming the number of females molesting children is low) then it`s 5X more likely that a homo- man will molest a child. It`s not reality but that`s how it works.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    May 20, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    @5Cats
    1 - In regards to a male being born attractive to females is not a learned response, it`s more of a chemical (ie phermons) and the way we are programmed.

    2 - According to American Journal of Preventive Medicine , in an article entitled: "Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Sexual Abuse by Gender of Victim" pages 430-438, females were responsible for 40% of the male childhood sexual abuse. Your numbers thus are not logical.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 20, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    @Viking: Ok, that`s fair.
    However, YOUR OWN SOURCE says that 16% of boys were SCA and 25% of girls. That`s NOT HARDLY 3:1 ratio, correct? It`s 3:2, half your claim.

    60% male assaults on boys. Yet homosexuals are less than 10% of the male population, correct? That`s still a massive over-representation. Not 5X but more like 8X!! I note that the F>girl is 6%, which is actually about the % of female homosexuals, a little less even.

    So thanks for the info, you`ve (inadvertantly I presume) proven my overall point!! Even increased it!!!
  38. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm
    Your math still does not make any sense 5Cats. Your numbers not logical, your point NOT proven. You repeated your claim, that does not add clarity.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    You`ve been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all

    That doesn`t mean it is worth changing. Even if that were true we shouldn`t have these "anomalies" called homosexuals.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Studies have even shown that children of homosexual parents are no more likely than their heterosexual counterparts to identify as homosexuals later in life.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    May 20, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    @5Cats:
    1 - I listed my source in regards to 3 to 1 ratio so I stand by them. The 2nd source was from a survey in San Francisco. I’ll be more than happy to provide additional backup for my claims as the ratio is valid based on other surveys.

    2 - You assume every episode of abuse was by one perp and there is no repeat offender. I am only going to the extreme to illustrate my point, theatrically ever instance of SCA could have been committed by only one person. Obviously this is not the case however it is generally believed that those who sexually abuse young kids are repeat offenders. (David Lisak, a psychologist from the University of Massachusetts).

    3. I have yet to see any “hard facts” that show homosexuality leads to pedophilia.
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    Ghosties Female 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 6:18 am
    "Same gay time, same gay channel"

    All I could think of when he mentioned that homosexuality is 24/7
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:08 am
    @Viking: #2 Valid point! But then again, the hetero- males could be repeat offenders too, eh?

    I`m simply stating that there`s disproportionately MORE homosexual males assaulting boys than herterosexual males assaulting girls.

    Proportions: 1 male in 15 (apx, it`s less than 1:10 but more than 1:20, ok?) is homosexual, right? So if the ratio of molestation were the same for het & hom, there`d be a LOT less boys molested by males. idk why you guys cannot see that.

    #3 I`ve never said anything of the sort: I`ve simply applied reasoning to the numbers.

    @Cajun: Anomalies are normal in evolution! In prosperous times they help keep the population from getting too high. In tough times they die off early, Mother Nature`s Rules.

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