Paul Cameron Claims Gays Want Everyone to ``Try it``

Submitted by: FoolsPrussia 5 years ago in

"The long term goal is to get every little boy to grab his ankles"
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Male 40,277
@Viking: #2 Valid point! But then again, the hetero- males could be repeat offenders too, eh?

I`m simply stating that there`s disproportionately MORE homosexual males assaulting boys than herterosexual males assaulting girls.

Proportions: 1 male in 15 (apx, it`s less than 1:10 but more than 1:20, ok?) is homosexual, right? So if the ratio of molestation were the same for het & hom, there`d be a LOT less boys molested by males. idk why you guys cannot see that.

#3 I`ve never said anything of the sort: I`ve simply applied reasoning to the numbers.

@Cajun: Anomalies are normal in evolution! In prosperous times they help keep the population from getting too high. In tough times they die off early, Mother Nature`s Rules.
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Female 4
"Same gay time, same gay channel"

All I could think of when he mentioned that homosexuality is 24/7
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Male 1,449
@5Cats:
1 - I listed my source in regards to 3 to 1 ratio so I stand by them. The 2nd source was from a survey in San Francisco. I’ll be more than happy to provide additional backup for my claims as the ratio is valid based on other surveys.

2 - You assume every episode of abuse was by one perp and there is no repeat offender. I am only going to the extreme to illustrate my point, theatrically ever instance of SCA could have been committed by only one person. Obviously this is not the case however it is generally believed that those who sexually abuse young kids are repeat offenders. (David Lisak, a psychologist from the University of Massachusetts).

3. I have yet to see any “hard facts” that show homosexuality leads to pedophilia.
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Male 10,855
Studies have even shown that children of homosexual parents are no more likely than their heterosexual counterparts to identify as homosexuals later in life.
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Male 10,855
[quote]You`ve been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all[/quote]

That doesn`t mean it is worth changing. Even if that were true we shouldn`t have these "anomalies" called homosexuals.
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Male 10,855
Your math still does not make any sense 5Cats. Your numbers not logical, your point NOT proven. You repeated your claim, that does not add clarity.
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Male 40,277
@Viking: Ok, that`s fair.
However, YOUR OWN SOURCE says that 16% of boys were SCA and 25% of girls. That`s NOT HARDLY 3:1 ratio, correct? It`s 3:2, half your claim.

60% male assaults on boys. Yet homosexuals are less than 10% of the male population, correct? That`s still a massive over-representation. Not 5X but more like 8X!! I note that the F>girl is 6%, which is actually about the % of female homosexuals, a little less even.

So thanks for the info, you`ve (inadvertantly I presume) proven my overall point!! Even increased it!!!
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Male 1,449
@5Cats
1 - In regards to a male being born attractive to females is not a learned response, it`s more of a chemical (ie phermons) and the way we are programmed.

2 - According to American Journal of Preventive Medicine , in an article entitled: "Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Sexual Abuse by Gender of Victim" pages 430-438, females were responsible for 40% of the male childhood sexual abuse. Your numbers thus are not logical.
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Male 40,277
[quote]most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.[/quote]
@Cajun that has nothing to do with the "Born that way" arguement. It just means people like to have sex with people they know, most of the time. Drunken nights in Vegas aside...

[quote]I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way.[/quote]
No @jtreb, you weren`t. You`ve been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all...

@Cajun: if 3X more girls are molested than boys, but there`s 15X more hetero- than homo- men (assuming the number of females molesting children is low) then it`s 5X more likely that a homo- man will molest a child. It`s not reality but that`s how it works.
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Male 10,855
[quote]so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man[/quote]

That math makes no sense.
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Male 3,369
5cats: "PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!"

I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way. Just because it was a choice for you doesn`t mean it applies to everyone.
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Male 10,855
Angilion: Those politicians you refer to typically speak out against anything that deviates from a heterosexual relationship or heteronormativity. So no a heterosexual politician who loudly denounces homosexual activity while satisfying their own sexual curiosity is still a hypocrite.
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Male 10,855
[quote]PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!![/quote]

They`d be wrong most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.
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Male 40,277
@Viking: So girls are 3X more likely, but male heteros outnumber homos by about 15X, so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man. BY YOUR FIGURES (I`m making no such claim, I`m pointing out what his facts mean, ok?)

Thanks @Angilion! This is about logic and reasoning, I`m glad someone `gets it!`

@Gerry1: From the `born vs learned` threads. The `born` side consistantly claimed that gay acts `made you gay` in both humans and animals, k? Applying that reasoning here, men having gay sex with boys = homosexual, period.

PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!
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Male 15,171
"Family Research Institute" basically, that means Bigotry Inc.

"Right Wing Watch" - is that like "Night Watch"?
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Female 4,086
i didn`t know i liked broccoli with cheese until i tried it.
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Male 39,530

Don`t pick on 5Cats.
He can`t help being born a Heterosexualist.
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Male 1,360
paul cameron is a sodomite, so is 5Cats.
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Male 12,365
There are some great examples of this logical fallacy going on here:

No true Scotsman!




So...next time a politician who speaks against homosexuality is found to have been having homosexual sex often and is publically derided as a hypocrite as a result, ruining their political career, who here is going to speak out in their favour and say they`re not hypocrites?

You`re going to do that, Cajun247? After all, you think that those men are NOT homosexual, right? They`re not having romantic homosexual relationships, they`re having homosexual sex.
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Male 1,048
Omg. these people need to be retrained.
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Male 12,365
[quote]If gays want every kid to try it, why are all the pedophiles straight men?[/quote]

They`re not, obviously. You`re just showing your own irrational prejudice, just like someone saying that all the paedophiles are gay men, or someone saying that all drug dealers aren`t "whites", or someone saying that all abusers of any kind are male. Same prejudice, different groups - "all <bad thing> is done by <target group>". Or, if you take it a bit further, "all <target group> do <bad thing>".
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Male 766
there is no god, just leave the gays alone
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Male 453
"...and maybe is forced..."
Every child? Like we make them go to school or brush their teeth?
This guy sounds authoritative on the subject. We should totally take him seriously. 5cats too.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Oh, those gay men over there doing homosexual acts are not REALLY gay men[/quote]

Of course not, they`re called MSM. Being straight or gay doesn`t just entail sexual behavoir it`s romantic as well. The word "bisexual" also has different meaning pending on context. A bisexual person is capable of having romantic relationships with either gender or simply has no preference either way, whereas a bisexual act can involve both sexes.
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Male 1,449
Nobody is denying that Pedophile Groups exist, however saying that gays drive pedophile an outright falsehood. THe University of New Hampshire published a Sexual Abuse Factsheet (by Emily M. Douglas and David Finkelhor) that show girls are 3x`s more likely to be a victim of sexual abuse then a boy will. Using the logic that some anti-gay activist use, then being heterosexual is 3 times more likely to cause pedophile then being homosexual.
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Male 39,530

5Cats, [quote]"Sorry @Gerry1, but applying "Homosexualist`s" (eat it @QueenZira, it`s a perfectly valid term!) OWN rules to the situation: these men are gay, at the very least bi-sexuals, yes?" [/quote]
Would you please explain to a poor, uneducated homosexual like me what these "Homosexualist Rules" are? I do hope I haven`t broken any Homsexualist Rules, they might take my Gay Card away from me.

LOL... what a maroon!


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Male 40,277
@FP: Are you now admitting I am correct? I state clearly that I`m simply applying YOUR own rules to this question, if you cannot understand that you need to read up on "Logic 101".

Sorry @Gerry1, but applying "Homosexualist`s" (eat it @QueenZira, it`s a perfectly valid term!) OWN rules to the situation: these men are gay, at the very least bi-sexuals, yes?

Simply saying "Oh, those gay men over there doing homosexual acts are not REALLY gay men" isn`t going to cut it. According to your rules, bi-sexuals get counted into the "homosexual" side (that`s how the outrageously high "10%" is achieved, fyi).

And is anyone denying the existance of pedophile groups? They`re called "man-boy love" for a reason...
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Female 734
wouldn`t turning everyone gay be counter productive in the long run? they would need to farm breeder just keep the species going
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Male 3,099
I`ve never heard of this whackadoodle before, but my guess is he`s externalizing his own personal torments.
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Female 2,228
Furthermore equating gayness with pedophilia is the oldest canard in the anti gay book. There is a huge difference between attraction to an adult of the same sex and attraction to kids. For one thing, gay men are attracted to the same secondary sex characteristics that straight women are ie. deep voices, muscles, ect. ect. while a pedo isn`t, they don`t find adult men attractive.

And that`s that.
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Female 2,228
"Homosexualist"-the last time I hear this word spoken it was by a Georgian man who I swear lacked the necessary IQ points to breathe and blink at the same time.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that it *does* (as another poster once pointed out) sound like someone who does something gay (like kisses someone) and runs away, while costumed and masked like a comic book character...
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Male 3,445
Madest: Maybe because he`s a closeted gay man?

Cameron talks about overcoming attraction to men
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Male 1,471
@5cats: I hope you realize you`re describing pedophiles, not homosexuals ?..

The difference? One of them is a consensual act, the other is statutory rape. ´

Also, a large majority of pedophiles are straight men, so claiming some connection between the two groups is kind of stupid.
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Male 30
Marriage is just a step along the way?? Wouldnt you want them to "try it" before they got married??
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Male 39,530

@ 5Cats - Wrong again. Pedophiles are 98% heterosexual men. Yes, they do go after boys but not because of preferance, it`s because of "availability". Men usually are not allowed to associate with girls-clubs or girl events. Not unsupervised, anyway. Youger boys are androgynous enough to meet their desire and available to them, but they`d rather have a girl.

Or in other cases, the pedophile is acting out the same abuse he went through as a child, hence the need for a boy. But he`s still a straight man.

5Cats, Knowledge Is Power: Get some and be powerful!
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Male 3,445
`Homosexual ACTS does not make the animal a full-out "homosexual" ok? That is humans projecting their belief systems on wild creatures.`

- 5Cats, May 15th

`those Cathoilc priests molesting all those boys? None of them were women...

Sorry to use your own arguements against you, but:
Those men molesting boys were homosexuals.`

5Cats, Today

Sorry to use your own arguments against you.
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Male 1,471
When an organization has the word "family" in it, you know they`re crazy..
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Male 7,378
Why would the rulers of the gay agenda let this guy in on their secrets?
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Male 762
I like how people come up with conspiracies in which entire unconnected groups of people are trying to secretly coerce people into doing something against their will, but meanwhile can`t get people to understand the simple things they are saying actively and publicly.
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Male 40,277
vv @Gerry1, those Cathoilc priests molesting all those boys? None of them were women...

Sorry to use your own arguements against you, but:
Those men molesting boys were homosexuals, they were born that way and it`s not their fault! It`s perfectly natural, look at ancient Greece, and dozens of other cultures where men and boys freely expressed their (sexual) love. Look at Bonobo monkies, they have sex acts with children too!

NOW I`m going to get flamed for AGREEING with the homosexualist movement, lolz!

This guy sounds kooky, and he`s taking things to extremes, BUT there is a hard-core group of people who want exactly that.
MAN-BOY LOVE!
Deal with the facts.
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Male 2,988
and this whole time i thought the gays were just normal people that wanted equal rights instead of discrimination. boy was i wrong! thanks to mr cameron i now know they really have some crazy diabolical plan! (rushes to go get tin foil hat back on... and maybe one of those analbumcovers i heard sean conery talk about...)
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Male 39,530

If gays want every kid to try it, why are all the pedophiles straight men?
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Male 3,445
Link: Paul Cameron Claims Gays Want Everyone to ``Try it`` [Rate Link] - `The long term goal is to get every little boy to grab his ankles`
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