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Date: 05/06/12 09:20 AM

23 Responses to Occupy Minnesota: Drugs & The DRE Program

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    Fancys_Asst Female 18-29
    1780 posts
    May 4, 2012 at 9:32 am
    Link: Occupy Minnesota: Drugs & The DRE Program - Get this: Minnesota cops have been giving local teens drugs so they can study the kids and their behavior while high.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Well, it makes sense, in a perverted twisted way...

    There was a court case here in Winnipeg, many years ago, where a guy was hauled in for "pot smell" in his car. There was pot there, but he got his case dismissed!
    He successfully argued that cops were not trained to "smell pot" and produced 3 things (Albanian Cigarettes, some incence) that smell JUST like pot, so the search was illegal.
    After that: all the cops got "pot smelling training" LOLZ!

    So here: cops are getting training in what stoned people look like.

    It`s a good thing actually, since sometimes people with disabilities or illnesses are wrongfully grabbed by cops who think they`re "under the influence"
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 9:58 am
    I watched the whole vid...this is some messed up crap.

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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    May 6, 2012 at 9:59 am
    5Cats

    truly 5Cats, just when I didn`t think you could say something stupider than the last thing you said, here you are proving me wrong again.

    there is no way to defend this, none at all.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:06 am
    So now the police are drug dealers. How long has this been going on?
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:15 am
    ......it`s a clearly explained test that people are willingly volunteering for so the cops can get practice identifying stoners (making them less likely to accidentally arrest you for no reason). The release could have been handled better than dropping stoned people off on the corner but I`ll be you anything they cops make the testees sign forms saying they`re fine to leave (and if you`re not fine to leave you should let someone know and NOT sign the form). It`s just like every other consumer product trail you can sign up for, except this one stars weed. -c-
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:17 am
    & if, in fact, weed is ever going to be made legal, the officers will need to know how to put together and conduct a fair sobriety field test on people who may be high, just like the tests for people who may be drunk. This honestly isn`t that big a deal as the Occupy movement wants you to believe.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:29 am
    So now the police are drug dealers. How long has this been going on?
    @Cajun: Since the early 60`s? When they went around teaching students how to make LSD?

    there is no way to defend this, none at all.
    @jamie: kindly do not address me in the future, I`m quite sick of you.
    I just did offer an `explaination` but if you`d rather the pigs were ignorent and grabbed innocent folks for `walking funny` that`s up to you.

    Agreed @leesah: But since the OWSers are sleeping in the park anyhow, why not drop them off "at home" eh? It`s not like the cops drop them at the parent`s house, all coked up! lolz!

    It`s a perfect opportunity to improve piggy training.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Poor people accuse the rich of not being taxed enough and it is class warfare, but drug addicts are given more drugs by government agencies and it is considered a "good training opportunity."
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Oh yeah, and cops don`t have the ability to watch video, because the is no footage of people on drugs anywhere... And the smell of drugs cannot be reproduced unless someone gets high.
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    GParadox Female 18-29
    737 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Even if they told me it was for science or to study... I would NEVER smoke in front of the cops.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
    787 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Awesome.
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    lucidexistan Male 30-39
    59 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    This happened to a couple friends of mine about 7 years ago. They got picked up and was illegally frisked on the sidewalk. Weed was found, they were told they could smoke it all in front of them before they take some sort of test. They were brought in, took the test and released. I didn`t know that is still going on!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Since the early 60`s? When they went around teaching students how to make LSD?

    If you`re not being sarcastic then it is an outright blatant double standard. When cops and law enforcement does research with narcotics it`s okay, but academic research is bad and unsafe!
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    RedOnTheHead Male 50-59
    99 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Smoke a little weed and ask them if they have any idea how fast they were driving, start acting like you are the supreme authority of the land, ask lots of intrusive questions ,trample peoples rights and act like there`s nothing wrong with it, if someone needs to see you in a hurry show up four hours later and act like you`re doing them a favor by showing up at all, ask them if they mind if you search their vehicle and ask for lots of doughnuts.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    This is just so wrong in so many ways. I understand the reasoning, but I can`t go along with the Machiavellian "The ends justify the means" mentality of this.
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    blobby5 Male 30-39
    144 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    If you cannot even identify a stoned person, your life must have sucked.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    Not sarcastic @Cajun: Before it was made illegal, LSD was easy to make! (Now the ingredients are `controlled` eh?)
    The FBI went around showing students how to make it, it`s true! The US Army did TONS of tests on "volunteers" over the years, British Army too.

    @unmercyfuldu (and @Crakr too) It`s a lawyer thing: like in my story below, if the cops aren`t "trained" then there`s a possible loophole.
    If drugs (even just pot) were legal, they`d need to know who`s stoned in a "legal" sense, not just guesswork.

    Look at the bright side: No one was hurt & it might be the first step towards legalization!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36850 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    To protect and to serve.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Okay, on the one hand, you get free drugs, but on the other hand, you have to hang out with a bunch of buzzkill cops while you`re doing them.

    If you cannot identify a stoned person, maybe you should just leave him alone.
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
    930 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    Now they just said you must be 18 or older so it`s not like they are grabbing up 12 year old kids outside a school and getting them high. I don`t see the big deal with cops getting people legally ripped so they can check out some of the obvious physical signs of substance abuse in person vs a text book...
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    May 6, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    @5Cats This really can`t be the only way to train cops. There are countless studies and videos observing the behavior while on these substances. This is outrageous on so many levels. And btw, all the studies done in the early days of LSD were before it was made illegal. It was those very studies that lead to its prohibition. At this point there is no excuse for taking drugs off the streets, creating collateral damage along the way (drug cartels, turf warfare, lacing of drugs)and then going back out into the streets and giving it to users.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    May 7, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    If you cannot identify a stoned person, maybe you should just leave him alone.

    I hear that.

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