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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:13 am
    Link: Newsweek Mag Names Obama 1st Gay President - Obama makes the cover of Newsweek magazine. Gets named America`s first gay president in the process. Fitting, I-A-B?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:18 am
    Like when Bill Clinton was "The First Black President"!

    The MSM is tossing BHO`s salad, again.
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    a103276 Male 18-29
    174 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Am I ready to eat jellyfish? I need to know!
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    norgle Male 18-29
    255 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Why did they give him a gaylo?
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:25 am
    come on, michelle is no looker, but Im pretty sure she is a woman
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    the_phantom Male 18-29
    510 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:25 am
    while i think it would be an interesting article, im disgusted by newsweeks tendency for using titles which will incite people. I stopped reading newsweek after an article called `ALIENS DO EXIST` in a special called `100 things they do NOT want you to know` discussed the scientific impossibility of the existence of aliens.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3926 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:32 am
    The Presidents support of gay marriage was a huge step in the direction of equality. You only need to look at the talking point from the right that "it was political" to see that. It was funny to watch the cons on IAB parrot the same talking points. It is a clear example of how opinion media manipulates its followers.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3362 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:34 am
    Well, there`s nothing wrong with being gay, and the guy who wrote the article is gay, so, not really a big deal.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3926 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 6:35 am
    They`re just playing up the Bill Clinton angle. The main purpose of a cover is to sell magazines. I think this over-the-top cover will do just that.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:43 am
    "You only need to look at the talking point from the right that "it was political" to see that. It was funny to watch the cons on IAB parrot the same talking points."

    I wanted to explain myself. The day after the Presidents interview I was watching the opening of the Daily Show. They had a bunch of clips of the conservative responses to the speech. The "it was political" statements were the same exact ones the conservatives here on IAB repeated. No matter if you are liberal or conservative if you are into opinion media and cable news you turn into a retarded parrot.
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    Mister_C Male 18-29
    663 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:05 am
    What? He`s gay because he thinks gay folks should be allowed to marry? Wha?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:25 am
    @Markust: You`re correct, their #1 mission is to sell magazines. #2 however, is to promote ONE side of the political spectrum.

    Perhaps all the conservatives say it`s political... because it is? Radical thought I know, conservatives being %100 correct...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:26 am
    1996: "I support gay marriage"
    2009-2011: "My position is `evolving`"
    2012: "I support gay marriage"

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    dm2754 Male 40-49
    3351 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:38 am
    what about Abraham Lincoln?
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    tbored Male 30-39
    178 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:38 am
    F#@[email protected] news Week.............
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:39 am
    What?! Did Newsweek merge with Global News or some other supermarket tabloid?
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
    735 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 7:50 am
    Well, Time labeled Clinton the first Black president so at least this is consistent with the liberal loonies.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:54 am
    carmium, NewSpeak has never been any better than Global News or any other tabloid.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 8:01 am
    Well, Time labeled Clinton the first Black president so at least this is consistent with the liberal loonies.
    Wait, you mean Time magazine didn`t have Jesus on its cover? When was that?!
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 8:40 am
    The drat?

    YOu can get away with this crap in the US?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3926 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 8:51 am
    "Perhaps all the conservatives say it`s political... because it is? Radical thought I know, conservatives being %100 correct..."

    It wasn`t just that you guys were saying it was political it is that you all were saying it exactly the same way as the political pundits.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 9:07 am
    "Perhaps all the conservatives say it`s political... because it is?"

    Political?! 5Cats this is clearly Obama stepping out into the world and bringing equality upon us! Obama the Savior has spoken again and the Dems are worshiping! Now do your Democrat part and go buy the new shirts from Obama`s campaign store! Do you want a "I`m Out for Obama" or "My Two Mommy`s Support Obama"?
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Perhaps all the conservatives say it`s political... because it is? Radical thought I know, conservatives being %100 correct...

    and agai you provide PROOF that you are always on the republican side of everything just as I had said before.

    remember when you said I must have "ESP" to know that you always side with the repubs?

    well it seems right here you are telling us that conservatives are 100% correct all the time...and no I don;t see any sarcasm in your post.

    I do believe good sir that my work here is done (at least with you) and you can now go back to your tin foil hat and rantings about how Obama is the anti-christ or whatever it is your lot is saying these days.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 10:12 am
    Jamie, that was stupid.

    The only reason he came out with this, is because he didn`t want to look stupid.

    If Biden had never said anything, Obama wouldn`t have either.

    Anybody think it`s kinda funny that it was said the day after the North Carolina vote?

    Also funny, is that he says it is up to the states to decide. He sounded kinda "NOW SHUT UP ABOUT IT!" to me.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3286 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 10:29 am
    AJ: If Biden had never said anything, Obama wouldn`t have either.

    And Biden only said that so he could remain on the ticket as VP.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 10:31 am
    @markust123 That`s because it was political. If you honestly think Obama or any other politician cares about your well being, then you need to grow the hell up. Obama is actually one of the most corrupt politicians around when it comes to campaign donations from both corporations and political groups. This is about his well being, not about yours. Does his selfishness end up helping people out in the end? Sometimes, yes, it does. However, just because he has done good for others does not mean that I or anyone else has to put him up on a pedestal.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 10:51 am
    A president taking a stance on a hot-button issue in an election year. Shocking.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 10:56 am
    vv @eddy666 is correct: Obama has held more fundraisers than ALL the Presidents since Carter!
    32 years! 5 Presidents! Obama`s spent his "work time" fundraising more than all of them combined!

    Nevermind the golfing...
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 11:14 am
    Like I`ve been saying from the start, they`re doing a great job keeping the spotlight on the whole gay marriage issue hoping to distract everyone from the important sh*t like unemployment and the sad state the economy is in right now.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 11:17 am
    5Cats

    This is why I call you a troll. Your message is so consistently biased in one position. Most people tend to bounce around a bit.

    How much of his actual work and time goes into a fundraiser? The hour that he shows up and talks? Unlike president numb nuts who spent half his presidency playing cowboy dressup on his ranch and clearing brush for the cameras.

    Political figures have to fundraise. It is the nature of the business. Would be great if they didn`t have to, but they do. I seem to recall that the last time campaign finance reform came up it was mostly republicans that killed it.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Distraction....
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
    "Your message is so consistently biased in one position"
    ...
    "I seem to recall that the last time campaign finance reform came up it was mostly republicans that killed it."

    Hmmm....
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
    @HolyGod: Troll =/= someone you disagree with.
    I think yo need to look that word up, eh?

    Obama gets on Air Force One, Flies to California, holds 3 fundraisers, flies back. Oh, he makes a 15 minute appearence at some public event too. Yeah, hard at work!

    More than the past 5 presidents COMBINED. In less than 4 years, with plenty more to come! How does pointing that out make me a troll? Is there some positive spin I`m deliberatly overlooking?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
    @whodat6484
    I agree completely with you on that.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 11:44 am
    5Cats

    It is the consistency. You have the exact same opinion as Fox News on everything. It just strikes me as unnatural. I jump around. I`m liberal and conservative on different issues. Most normal people are.

    But who cares if he is on air force one? It is a traveling office. You think he`s sleeping or playing video games? He`s on air force one doing exactly what he would be doing if he was in the oval office, working.

    Do you not agree that president`s HAVE to fundraise to get elected? Do you think he likes it? That he is keeping the money for himself? You think he enjoys hand shaking some rich guy in california so his campaign can afford to run an extra commercial in cleveland?

    If he gets a second term he won`t have to anymore. Bush still took vacations throughout his second term. I`d rather my president fundraise out of necessity then vacation out of choice. Wouldn`t you?
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    May 14, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    and this is why print media is failing.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33126 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    HolyGod: Me = Fox News? I don`t even watch that. You ASSUME you know my opinions on EVERYTHING? You know what happens when you ass-u-me eh?

    I`ve said it many times: I don`t need to trumpet the "liberal" causes, there`s a host of IABers who do that already.

    No, actually, I don`t think any President who sets a record for PRIVATE fundraising should be held in anything other than comtempt! I don`t think flying around on AF1 or 2 for PRIVATE reasons is proper. I know Bush caught heck for it, not Obama though!
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    May 14, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Why is Obama white in the picture?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    5Cats

    Don`t split hairs. You know what I mean. I don`t get hyperbolic. Your opinions on everything you post here.

    If president`s didn`t fundraise there would never be a two term president. It is just a fact of the matter.

    In addition you have no idea what he is really doing all the time. Just because you only see a few public events doesn`t mean he isn`t having high level private meetings with influential people behind the scenes. When bush was clearing brush we knew what he was doing.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    "It is the consistency. You have the exact same opinion as Fox News on everything. It just strikes me as unnatural. I jump around. I`m liberal and conservative on different issues. Most normal people are. "

    That is exactly why I suspect that a few people on here are paid by the RNC to promote the conservative agenda and derail anything liberal that is positive. The comments are just too on target. It is unnatural as you pointed out. Especially from people who are not even from America. And if they are not paid by the RNC then they are completely emerced in partisan media which is just a horrible negative place to be.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    @HolyGod and markust

    Careful you two are dippin your toes into tinfoil hat territory.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    Cajun247

    Hey. i never said he is a paid mole. I just said he is too consistently on party lines to be in any way a genuine and free thinking person. I fall on the liberal side for most issues. But I fall conservative when it comes to lots of things. Anyone who falls on one side every time is either a simpleton or an aberration.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    @Cajun247, I was into partisan politics a few years back. I know how it gets a hold of you. But I was never as hyper focused, and on target, as a couple people on here including a liberal MOD. It is really weird. Maybe that is where the new partisan politics is heading? I don`t know. The closest I get to opinion media anymore is maybe once a week watching the Daily Show. But that show isn`t even in the ballpark as the ones on MSNBC and Fox News.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    @markust123 You keep saying how you aren`t into partisan politics anymore, but every comment you make is either made with the purpose of hating on conservatives or praising liberals. In fact, if you were truly not a fan of partisan politics, you wouldn`t support either Obama or Romney, as a victory for the Republican or Democratic party will only help keep the party system in place.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    @HolyGod
    The same can be said about you, my friend. In fact, the way in which you are criticizing poor ole 5cats is in fact something that I would expect out of a stereotypical reddit-bred liberal fanboy. At least 5cats is making points and arguments. You are just making personal attacks, and it`s proving nothing.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    @eddy666, just the other day I was sticking up for Mitt, pointing out how absolutely ridiculous it was to bring up something that happened in high school for a presidential campaign. And I thought Rand Paul`s comment, that he didn`t think President Obama`s views on marriage could get any gayer, was hilarious. I thought the media attacking him for that was ridiculous. Sure I jump in a lot on the gay posts but I`m gay. And it may seam like I just attack conservatives on gay issues but hey, I don`t see liberals attacking the gays. I will take your comment in though. If I am starting to get partisan again I will have to get that in check.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    eddy666

    I don`t think I am in any way making personal attacks. I`m simply stating that I find it impossible to believe that any person would come down on the same side of every issue without doing it intentionally. This is a conversation we have had across a few different threads and I doubt you have read all of them, so kindly butt out if you don`t know what you are talking about.

    Secondly the same could absolutely not be said about me. I have been vocal in the comment section on several issue that would be considered conservative including abortion, racism, affirmative action, and government regulation. I can`t think of a single comment I have seen from 5cats that could be considered anything other than hardline republican.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    @markust123 Fair enough, but it`s not really so much the polarity of your comments as it is that you constantly claim that you aren`t partisan, yet you praise and almost worship an extremely partisan political figure. This has nothing to do with your views on gay rights, most people here agree with you on that issue, even some of the conservative folks. My main point is that you cannot truly strive for a non-partisan world and support Obama as heavily as you do. He`s the liberal media`s trophy president, for god`s sake. He strives for a more divided nation, not for a united one. A system not plagued by partisanship would kill these politicians` massive wealth and egos, and a president as egotistic and greedy as Obama won`t allow for such a thing to happen. I`m going to be honest, I had a lot of high expectations for Obama, but he`s failed to live up to the haughty and arrogant expectations that he laid out for himself in front of the American public.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    How is it fair that he HAS to be the only liberal-leaning candidate in this race?
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 14, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    "I don`t think I am in any way making personal attacks."

    -"to be in any way a genuine and free thinking person"
    -"is either a simpleton or an aberration"
    -"so kindly butt out if you don`t know what you are talking about. "

    That`s all just from this page. Don`t make me go back to other threads. I stand by my original point. So what if 5cats has a conservative view on almost every issue? Obama has a liberal view on almost every issue. That`s just the way some people are.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    "My main point is that you cannot truly strive for a non-partisan world and support Obama as heavily as you do. He`s the liberal media`s trophy president, for god`s sake. He strives for a more divided nation, not for a united one. A system not plagued by partisanship would kill these politicians` massive wealth and egos, and a president as egotistic and greedy as Obama won`t allow for such a thing to happen. I`m going to be honest, I had a lot of high expectations for Obama, but he`s failed to live up to the haughty and arrogant expectations that he laid out for himself in front of the American public."

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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm
    "Fair enough, but it`s not really so much the polarity of your comments as it is that you constantly claim that you aren`t partisan..."

    To be fair I know I have made partisan statements. I strive not to be partisan though. What I am against is partisan influences (cable news, partisan radio, partisan blogs). People are partisan enough without the negative influence of these divisive outlets. I sometimes find myself lashing out at people who are stuck in this world - like I did today. But I realize now that it is the partisan influences that I am lashing out at not the person being the parrot. It`s like being reminded of an abusive ex through their new partner. Maybe this will help me let things go in one ear and out the other.
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    eddy6666 Female 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    @markust
    Are you in denial that Obama is a partisan politician or something? It`s not really something that is debatable, most politicians are. There are a few good ones out there that don`t care about party loyalties, but you won`t ever see them in the news. You should go look some of them up, though. Being `non-partisan` isn`t just about flip-flopping across the political spectrum, it`s also about supporting politicians who are willing to do the same.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    Are you sure you were banned @eddy6666? I clicked on your old profile and you are still there along with your comment count. That would be mega lame if you were banned.
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    eddy6666 Female 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    @markust123 Like I said, I don`t care about your individual opinions and comments. Just because you have some strong, charged opinions doesn`t make you partisan. I just don`t see how you can claim to not explicitly favor one side, yet support a president who does.

    Anyways, I`m out. Anyone know of a site similar to this one that will let me express my opinions?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm
    "Are you in denial that Obama is a partisan politician or something? It`s not really something that is debatable, most politicians are."

    The Obama face palm was at how partisan you were being about how partisan you think I am being about how partisan you think Obama is. It made my head hurt. I agree that every politician is partisan. It comes with the job but I don`t think Obama is half as partisan as the conservative machine pretends him to be. Take away the partisan noise machine on both sides and he is trying. He is not nearly as horrible or as great as either side states. But he is not the monster the right has created him to be. His own mother wouldn`t recognize that person. Same way Bush wasn`t the monster the left noise machine created him to be.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    Don`t split hairs.
    @HolyGod: You accuse ME of partisanship?
    IT`S A FACT: Obama has attended MORE private fundraising events than the previous 5 presidents COMBINED!
    HOW can you say "oh, all the presidents do it" when it is the AMOUNT that I`m talking about? Obama spends WAY WAY WAY more time than Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan AND Carter doing PRIVATE FUNDRAISING.
    FFS man, are you truely blind?

    Anyone who falls on one side every time is either a simpleton or an aberration.
    OR: a whole lot smarter than you buddy! Ha!

    @markust: you can put a "faceplant" on that statement all you like: EVERYTHING @eddy666 said is true.

    YOU have too much kool-aid in your bloodstream to see that. Obama has failed, by his OWN STANDARDS and you still defend him?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    @eddy666 is showing no info and no links. That`s one sign of banning.

    New eddie6666: Did you get contacted by any Mods? If you go BANNED for your comments on this thread that is beyond outrageous...

    Cripes! I thought @madest was bad, if the banhammer fell for this thread someone out there has some explaining to do!
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    eddy6666 Female 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    @5Cats Just checked my emails, nothing.
    Also @markust, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn`t coming at Obama from the right, but from the middle, and I was doing so by comparing Obama to some of his other liberal colleagues. I`m not even going to bring some of the GOP`s candidates in to this because I don`t think there is anything to argue about with them. People know they are crazy.
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    eddy6666 Female 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    @markust Look at John Mccain and Hilary Clinton for example. Last I checked, and to be fair, I haven`t kept up with them recently, they both will cross and ride the line sometimes. Granted, they are still pretty partisan too, but sometimes is better than none.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I thought Clinton was our first black president. Guess Obama has to first at something.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    "I just don`t see how you can claim to not explicitly favor one side"

    I`ve never stated that. I favor liberals but I do not explicitly favor them. I believe the reason we are in such a big mess is that both sides stopped listening to each other many years ago. How deep in trouble do we need to get before congress gets off their ass and starts working for everyone not just for their votes. But I will not accept that President Obama does listen to the other side. He favors the liberal side but he is too smart to think he knows everything. He wants to hear all sides of the story. You can`t come to the best solution without doing that. Congress and the media are the biggest roadblocks to fixing this mess we are in.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Oh, hey it works now. That was weird. I`ll go delete my posts about being banned I suppose.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    vv @eddy MacCain was well known for a history of NON-partisan behaviours. One of the `knocks` against him was that he was too `liberal`.
    Obama has shown pure partisanship from day 1. Not even INVITING the Repubs to discuss the "secret" Obamacare bill! Not even letting his own party see it! lolz!

    The GOP field was "weak" this time around, with several (potentially) strong candidates sitting it out. Sad, but better than BHO!

    Hillary! Would have Billy to guide her, he`s pretty darn good at working both sides to get things done actually. IDK though, I think Killary is hard-core...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Naw! Don`t delete them!

    No harm no fowl! lolz!

    Put a bit or two into your profile, just so it`s easier to tell if you`re active.

    Favorite Music: Blue Oyster Cult! (hint hint)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Ooops, The "killery" is an honest typo!
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    @5cats Done.
  68. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    "I think you misunderstood me. I wasn`t coming at Obama from the right, but from the middle, and I was doing so by comparing Obama to some of his other liberal colleagues."

    I know you are not being sincere now because President Obama straddles the middle. The problem is the extremist have pulled the Republican party so far to the right they do not understand what the middle is anymore. And I agree with you about John McCain (but the pre-presidential candidate McCain). I actually really liked him. He stood up for what he believed in.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm
    @markust123 What are you talking about? Obama does not, nor has he ever(look at his track record before he ran for president) straddled the middle. Just because he hasn`t done much in his first 4 terms does not mean he straddles the middle. He`s a puppet to the democratic party, just like people like Gingrich are to the republicans. What he tells the media these days does not indicate his actual beliefs. At this point in the election period both candidates are going to try to appear to straddle the middle. That`s how it`s always worked. There`s no sense in going far off to one side when there is only one opponent.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:34 pm
    Jay-Z said this today on CNN,
    “I’ve always thought it as something that was still holding the country back. What people do in their own homes is their business and you can choose to love whoever you love. That’s their business. It`s no different than discriminating against blacks. It’s discrimination plain and simple...I think it`s the right thing to do, so whether it costs him votes or not - again, it`s not about votes. It`s about people. It`s the right thing to do as a human being.”

    When a rapper can talk openly like this tides are changing. Like him or hate him Obama has really opened the road up wider for full equality. I think my state (Washington) will be the first to confirm gay marriage via a vote. That is if the opposition can get enough signatures on the ballot. If not it has already passed through our state congress.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    I`m bored with you @eddy666. You got on my case with accusations of being partisan and now all you are doing is repeating partisan talking points??? I think we can all see who really is the partisan one here.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    @markust123 Hmm.... let`s see. I`m hating on a partisan president.
    You`re applauding him and using something a pooty rapper said to support him, and I`m the partisan one? Cool logic, bro.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    @markust123 I respect you a little less now that you`ve gone and quoted Jay-Z. His kind is ruining the rap genre.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    Also, @markust
    clicky
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:53 pm
    "I respect you a little less now that you`ve gone and quoted Jay-Z. His kind is ruining the rap genre."

    Attack the source - distract from the actual comment. Karl Rove would be so proud.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    "again, it`s not about votes. It`s about people. It`s the right thing to do as a human being."
    And you call 5cats and myself brainwashed, Jesus Christ man, get a hold of yourself. I`m going to repeat myself once again: NO politician cares about you or your well being. Politics isn`t about doing the right thing. Politicians just play the game because how are they going to get yachts if the public doesn`t like them? Politics is all about the yachts, man. Stop pooting yourself believing in things like equality.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    @markust123 It`s better than the fallacy you committed. Also, I didn`t ignore it. Look above.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    @markust123 It was also meant to be humorous. I`m not really having a serious political discussion with you right now. I`m keeping it just serious enough to keep myself entertained.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:01 pm
    @markust123 I bet you think Ronald McDonald cares about equality too, huh?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    "Why did they give him a gaylo?"

    @norgle for the win.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    "When a rapper can talk openly like this"
    I don`t think individuals like Jay-Z having the power to influence the public is necessarily a good thing. His lyrics are a bit disturbing to say the least, especially since he has some history of violence.
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 14, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Hey, markust, I heard you can help achieve equality faster by pitching in some money here. Don`t worry, it even tells you what to do if you`ve reached your cap and still want to pitch in more!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm
    I`ve always suspected Michelle was a man.
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    May 15, 2012 at 9:40 am
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
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    May 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    utterly stupid.

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