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Mormon Logic: What`s So Bad About Satan? [Pic]

The kid has a point–why is everyone so down on Satan? If you believe in the whole thing, Lucifer is doing a good job.

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Date: 05/21/12 01:05 PM

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    floydevans Female 13-17
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    May 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Link: Mormon Logic: What`s So Bad About Satan? - The kid has a point--why is everyone so down on Satan? If you believe in the whole thing, Lucifer is doing a good job.
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    Marthenil Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Because Satan( Now bear with me, I don`t believe in fairy tales, i`m just assuming said person exists) is not doing it for charity or anything, but rather because hes a psychotic and sadistic son of a bitch. He would do it to anyone, but he only gets the bad guys down there :<
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    beternal Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    time to join mormonchat.org!!! :-D
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    remember god created lucifer, aka satan
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Fake...because a Mormon Missionary would answer that question.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    i thought Mormons dont believe in hell?
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    @dm2754 We don`t see hell as the same eternal stance as other Christians do. The outlook is is God`s grace is so great, he forgives everyone to a degree that even some of our worst will receive a degree of glory in Heaven. It`s a beautiful thing.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    Meanwhile, the Mighty Thor looks on, amused.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    @beternal, HELLZ YEA!!!
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    Fancysucksss Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    :) think I`ll join now. I have a whole bunch of questions
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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    Without the devil there wouldnt be the Diablo franchise
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    Heldstecken Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    satan: the original superhero
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    Well it`s a loaded question since the only thing Satan does in hell is burn. There`s no reference in the Bible of him `ruling` hell, only him burning in it.
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    Theyoyoguy Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    @dm: The lowest kingdom of heaven is the telestial kingdom, where all the sinners go to get high, be drunk, and party. ( It`s like living on Earth, but for eternity)

    Sources: My best friend is Mormon.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    Why didn`t Bryan at least try to answer?
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    DShephard Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    I always thought of God and Satan as business partners.
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    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    @Crabes
    "Without the devil there wouldnt be the Diablo franchise"

    therefore the Devil is good.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    May 21, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    I never said i didn`t like satan, i love satan! same goes for hitler, i just don`t like what they do
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    Mahaloth Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    Does the Devil punish evil doers in Mormonism? He doesn`t in Catholicism or Protestant Christianity.
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    LemonCurry Male 40-49
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    May 21, 2012 at 4:37 pm
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    3 Posts Monday, May 21, 2012 1:41:30 PM
    Because Satan( Now bear with me, I don`t believe in fairy tales, i`m just assuming said person exists) is not doing it for charity or anything, but rather because hes a psychotic and sadistic son of a bitch. He would do it to anyone, but he only gets the bad guys down there :<"
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    lol, comments are funnier than the actual post.

    all silly superstition. i meet satan the other day at starbucks, and he was actually rather nice. is into collecting stamps and stuff.
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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Satan is lawful evil. Talk to your local D&D geek, he`ll explain it to you...
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    If you`re going to point out the holes in religion (which I am highly in favor of), at least make sure the holes are actually there. This is like asking why the Bible was written in English.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    May 21, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    That actually is a pretty good point if you believe the devil punishes evil.
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    T3hHippie Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    Never judge someone/something you never met on peoples assumptions. Kind of like the way they treated Boo Radley in "To Kill a Mockingbird". Ah, who am I kidding the ****** doesn`t exist anyways...
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    ultimakewl Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    im not one to advocate religion but...
    satan punishes evil yes
    but he also cause you to sin and commit evil deeds
    so he tempts people into doing bad things so they goto hell
    then he punishes them for his own sick pleasure
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    crackyhoss Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    Although I`m not religious, this is theologically easily answered... It`s God who decides that the evil people are being punished by Satan. If it were up to Satan, he`d be torturing all of us, good and bad alike, and that`s why he`s evil.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    Actually, I`ve thought of this same thing in an alternative manner - why WOULD the Devil punish those who do his bidding? Doesn`t make sense to me. He would have to be MORAL (good) to reprimand the wrongdoers (and by reprimand, I mean an eternity in boundless torment and by wrongdoers, I mean those who`ve yet to accept Jesus as their lord and savior).
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    You two both make conceivable points though - that really would be a sick modus operandi.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    I highly suggest all of you go and try this mormon chat thingy. you might learn a thing or two.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    also, remember that Satan is sentenced to eternal torment worse than anybody could ever feel. He is the most miserable being in the history of the universe. His greatest wish is to make men miserable like him. That is why he leads us away from God only to punish us afterward.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    To my understanding of this Christian thing on the devil and god, is that they are the same entity/creature/person. It`s comparable to that of person with bi-polar disorder.

    And that the perception of Heaven and Hell is the "eye of the beholder"; in other words the same freaking place.

    If you don`t live your life to it`s optimum potential and/or prevent others from doing so, then don`t expect to "live it up" in the "after life".

    It`s a Karma thing...3 fold rule...or as most that are raised in the Christian beliefs, the `golden rule`---do un to others as they would do un to you

    what you giveth to others, will 3 fold return back upon you.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    All lucifer did was stand up for him and his kind. It`s the same thing if Hitler`s right hand man were to stand up to him and say `I think you are wrong.` In which case hitler would have him killed most likely.

    This is a large reason why if the bible is factual, then I`d do my damnedest to kill god should i ever meet him, because HE is the evil one.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    "Without the devil there wouldnt be the Diablo franchise"

    This has a good point.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    Everyone here should read the comic series Lucifer, it`ll all make sense after that. I mean really, the devil is only considered evil because he defied God`s will by giving humanity knowledge, apparently. That wasn`t God`s plan. And now he`s a critical process in doing to evil souls the work that God wants done to them before he`s willing to save them from hell.
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    zeebeedee Male 50-59
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    Answer the damn question moron
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    defendors87, you used the term `sentenced,` and you may not have thought through the implications, but if it truly were a sentence, wouldn`t that make the god the judge? And if god is the judge, isn`t he in a position to lift the sentence, thereby enabling the prospect of forgiveness for this ultimate condemned? Are you sure that is how you meant to put it?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 21, 2012 at 10:35 pm
    It`s God who decides that the evil people are being punished by Satan.
    omfg Satan doesn`t punish anyone.

    That is why he leads us away from God only to punish us afterward.
    Ok I don`t know if Satan in Mormonism punishes you on a prison planet orbiting Kolob or something but unless the Mormon Bible has some extra sections that say different, there is no mention of Satan running hell like some kind of a weird jailor. That stupid notion was inspired by "Paradise Lost."
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    This is a large reason why if the bible is factual, then I`d do my damnedest to kill god should i ever meet him, because HE is the evil one.
    I`m willing to bet that in some dark corner of Hell, there`s a legion or more of warriors like you and me planning the same thing, waiting for their numbers to reach the perfect point so they can launch an assault on god`s domain.
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    May 21, 2012 at 10:39 pm
    Not to be a total fangirl, but I`m an avid Supernatural fan and I always thought Lucifer got the short end of the stick.
    Lucifer: "Why? Why would I want to destroy this stunning thing? *Beautiful* in a trillion different ways. The last, *perfect* handiwork of God? Do you know the story of how I fell from grace? Why God cast me down? Because I *loved* him. More than anything, and then God created...You. The little, hairless apes, and then he asked all of us to bow down before *you*. To love *you*, more than Him. And I said, Father, please, I can`t. I said these human beings are flawed, murderous. And for that, God had Michael cast me into Hell. Now tell me, does the punishment fit the crime? Especially when I was right? Look what six billion of you have done to this beautiful thing and how many of you blame me for it."
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2012 at 12:30 am
    Meh.

    Could`ve trolled with him more than just jumping right onto that question.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    May 22, 2012 at 2:03 am
    It`s funny coz it`s true.
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    toddbtmtodd Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2012 at 5:59 am
    @Swaywithme I`ve watched every episode (and to be honest my favorite is Hammer of the Gods. I loved Gabriel impersonating Loki) Anyways, I am a Christian and well, there really shouldn`t be no sympathy for the devil. I mean sure he may punish the wicked but if he could, he would punish even the righteous if they weren`t under God`s protection BECAUSE of Lucifer`s hatred for being cast out for not bowing down to (Ta da) Us!

    ok I`m done :P This post is pretty funny though. Everyone`s so sensitive now a days, especially blacks. And to those black people: I am Scottish. When you guys were getting the whip, I was in Scotland cooking haggis and making weapons for my other clans to kill each other with. We had it pretty bad too lol.
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    Keegan31 Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2012 at 6:22 am
    The Devil does not punish anyone. In fact, according to the Bible, the devil isn`t currently in hell. The only time hell in ever directly described in the Bible is in Revelations which calls it a lake of fire that the devil and all goats (non-believers) are cast into during the end times.

    As such:
    1. Hell is currently empty and will not be filled until armageddon.
    2. The devil will not rule in hell, he will simply burn with the rest of us.

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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2012 at 7:56 am
    @buiadh. Agreed. Trolling opportunity wasted....
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    Snazyguy Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2012 at 10:56 am
    I don`t blame Bryan for logging off but, guh, he should have tried.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    So true.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm
    I went to the site and asked them the same question. They said they have been asked a lot lately and wondered what site it came from. Plus they said that the devil doesn`t punish, just tempts people away from God`s plan.
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
    Wow, there`s something that a religion teaches that`s self-contradictory and/or makes no sense? I`m so very shocked. Really though, I`m pretty sure that most of us here could write god damn essays filled with questions like the above.

    Speaking of satan, if god`s all powerful, why does satan even exist? God should be able to blink him from existence, especially since allegedly god should have seen satan coming for, you know, all of eternity. For a perfect, omnipresent, omnipotent entity that transcends time and space, god certainly seems to get blindsided by a lot of things and have some very arbitrary constraints. I mean, it took the guy(the thing?) 6 whole days to make the earth and he even had to `rest` on the 7th day! What a pansy!
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    WizardofCOR Male 40-49
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    May 23, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    "Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able, and willing? Then from whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?"

    -- Epicurus

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