Man Tip #1,498 [Pic]

Submitted by: lostinkorea 5 years ago in Funny

I"ve been saying this my whole life!
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Male 268
"People only treat you how you let them treat you. If she`s up front and declares she wants to just be friends, what the hell is wrong with that? Put on your BIG BOY PANTS and either be friends or MOVE ON! I think some people just really need to grow up."

That`s where you girls have it wrong. Being in the friend zone is when the woman doesn`t say straight up what she wants from someone. It`s when she doesn`t say she only wants to be friends, falsely leading someone on. It`s like you all believe women can`t be bad.
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Male 1,582
@Shinymetal

Lol, pretty much.
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Male 6,227
@LIK: I definitely think you hit an IAB nerve with this post. LOL!
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Male 6
Dear Men,
If you wanted to have a sexual relationship with a woman and it didn`t happen in the first month of knowing her. Move on.

Don`t bitch about the friendzone because you`re the one responsible for getting in it. If you want a relationship with someone don`t be a coward and tell them how you feel, that way you won`t be doing more damage to yourself for months and year s to come.
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Male 171
chances are if a male is actively seeking companionship from a female, he is usually seeking more than a platonic friendship that he could do better at with his male friends. girls need to not worry about hurting a mans feeling and be honest with him. to be dishonest with someone for fear of hurt feelings seldom leads to a good ending. this also goes for men who lead on women.
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Male 171
so here is what i read.

Guys should stop complaining about being friend-zoned because I enjoy the special treatment I get from men who want to be with me. I obviously benefit from these relationships so i string the male along with just enough hope to keep him around but not so little that he stops helping me move my heavy property or fixing my car or computer/ loaning me money/ telling me how beautiful and worthwhile i am(though clearly not). in conclusion you should take this as a compliment and be grateful that I don`t care enough about you to tell you to move on to another woman who will return your love properly.

unless he was told explicitly he has no chance, then whoever agrees with this is delusional.
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Male 3,894
I kiss your mommy with my vulgar mouth.
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Male 65
I wouldnt say bitchy men friend zone drating blows
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Male 926
I`m with Leesah. And I respect that. Kind of weirded out by the guys trying to call her out.
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Female 1,566
Do you kiss your mommy with that vulgar mouth, little boy?
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Male 1,216
Goddamn Leesah, you are a stupid bitch.
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Male 1,284
I hate these posts who is trying to teach man how to behave with woman, its plain stupid
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Female 1,566
"Also that would make you Scarlett and she professed her love of Rhett"

Out of desperation when everything else was taken from her and she had nowhere left in the world to turn. Let`s ignore the current conversation for a second here, don`t tell me you believe for a second that Scarlett really changed her ways. Ashley had nothing left to offer her, once her eyes opened to that she left him to mourn his own miserable life so she could get back to Rhett and his money. She only starts to repent when even Rhett leaves her and she`s left destitute again, and she doesn`t repent for what she`s done, she repents losing what she had.

& I tell him we`d be like Rhett and Scarlett because he knows we`d never be together except to use each other for our own gains.
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Male 694
and if a guy only is interested in you because he wants to drat you, SUCK IT UP AND TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT, at least he is interested and finds you attractive.

there. feel better ladies?
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Male 5,811
[quote]I always tell the one from the UK that if he were richer and whiter we`d be the real Rhett and Scarlet and he always says "but then I`d have to like you". So clearly at least one of them is not about constantly kissing my ass.[/quote]

So you tell him that if he were richer you`d be the star-crossed lovers from Gone With The Wind? That sounds to me like you telling him he needs to be rich and buy you things for you two to be together. Also that would make you Scarlett and she professed her love of Rhett, so by your own analogy you like the man? I`m done with this conversation, I don`t know what I hoped to achieve, but you just go on having your ego stroked, because having an external locus of worth doesn`t seem to bother you. Bonne chance.
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Female 1,566
-getting anything in return. Wouldn`t that make him the man you all keep championing, the guy who does these wonderful things because he`s sensitive and loving and not because he`s just looking for sex?
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Female 1,566
"learly taking advantage of people`s kindness and affection is something that is looked down upon."

I`m not taking advantage of anyone. These are three guys who I have blatantly outright rejected and they insist on continuing to buy me presents anyway. I don`t see why that`s so hard for you to comprehend, but then again I wouldn`t exactly call you a "smart boy".

"because their pestering is pathetic and annoying."

To who? I don`t think they`re annoying. If they`re clinging to their own made up false hope that`s hardly my problem, but none of them give that impression. I always tell the one from the UK that if he were richer and whiter we`d be the real Rhett and Scarlet and he always says "but then I`d have to like you". So clearly at least one of them is not about constantly kissing my ass. Maybe he enjoys buying me presents because he thinks I deserve nice things and he can provide them without the expectation of getti
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Male 5,811
[quote]Why? Are you jealous of my gifts? That`s the only logical reason I can think of as to why you`re so butthurt over the fact that guys are sending me things[/quote]
Jealous? Far from it. I`m also not suggesting that you can only receive gifts for sex. The point is that these guys don`t really even seem to be your friends. Are they friends that you hang out with? If not then one would think the best thing to do would be to sever contact with these individuals, because their pestering is pathetic and annoying. Part of this would be to send back their gifts, because by keeping them these idiots are like a stray cat that you fed once (with however much attention you initially gave them) and now they won`t stop. Even though you may have told them you aren`t interested, by keeping their gifts it could give them the impression that you`re doing something like playing hard to get.
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Male 1,754
Leesah, clearly taking advantage of people`s kindness and affection is something that is looked down upon. Especially knowing full well what you`re doing and then trying to be a braggart about it. You`re a smart girl. I don`t think it`s hard to comprehend this.
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Female 1,566
"If guys are sending you gifts with no implied chance to get with you, just send them back."

Why? Are you jealous of my gifts? That`s the only logical reason I can think of as to why you`re so butthurt over the fact that guys are sending me things, even though they know they`re not going to get anything in return. According to you I`m only allowed to keep the gifts I get in exchange for sex! Slut souvenirs are A-OK but how dare I accept them when given freely!

If my boyfriends have liked my personality, why is it "bad"? Because YOU don`t like it? Luckily, no one is forced to be with people they don`t like! You don`t have to acknowledge me at all if you can`t stand my personality, imagine that!
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Male 1,754
Oh Leesah, you`re either a great troll or just a horrible human being. I don`t care either way.
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Male 5,811
[quote]I do believe that men and women can be friends.[/quote]
Of course they can, if they`re both in committed relationships.

[quote]Which is what I`ve always done.[/quote]
Being narcissistic isn`t ok just because it`s what you`ve always done. I`m struggling to not reduce my argument to ad Hitlerum, but if someone has, say, anger problems, is it ok for that person to yell and scream at people because it`s what they`ve always done? Maybe your bf`s have liked your narcissistic personality, maybe they haven`t, but that doesn`t make it a good personality. If guys are sending you gifts with no implied chance to get with you, just send them back. Sounds to me like you`re only keeping their gifts to feed your ego.
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Female 1,566
"As opposed to being narcissistic like you."

Which is what I`ve always done.

Don`t act like I tied them down and screamed until they cried. No one forced them to hang around for over a year in each case, they stayed of their own accord and only left when I told them I was done with them. That`s life!
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Male 3,894
The thing about the friendzone is that it`s not just some guy trying to get laid--I`ve been there before, when I was younger and a lot more naive about women. You`re struck with hopeless puppy-love for this girl, and you spend hours every day with her talking about every little detail of your lives and futures. While she interprets it as you gossiping with her, the same way she would with any of her other friends, you feel as though you`ve been baring your very soul to her. You would face down an army of bear-cyborgs alone for her sake without flinching--and yet, you watch her make her way through a long line of guys who ill-use her and make her miserable. You can`t figure out why it has to be that way, why she doesn`t realize just how much she means to you, or what`s wrong with you that makes her ignore you.

Of course, it`s a lot more complicated than it appears, something neither of you realize. Guys aren`t always out just to get laid. We know love and passion too.
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Male 3,894
@YgurueKage--I retracted my statement (a little reluctantly) because I gave SarahofBorg the benefit of the doubt and assumed she wasn`t talking to me. I`ll try to reproduce it as best I can though.
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Male 5,811
[quote]I actively encouraged my last boyfriend to quit art "school" and try for a real job. The artsy liberal types apparently like the abuse. [/quote]
Typical woman trying to change a guy to suit her wants. If you want rich men go find one, don`t try to ruin someone else`s happiness because you don`t like dating men with money.

[quote]You`re telling me "accept people for who they are wahh wahh", well I`m throwing it back at you, accept me for who I am. All of my past boyfriends have, that`s why they stuck around for so long. [/quote]
The difference is that they are just doing what they`ve always done, which is being artistic. As opposed to being narcissistic like you.

Also I doubt that`s why they stayed for so long.

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Male 1,104
@YugureKage
"hmmm seems that the quote I was "huzzah-ing" is not here anymore? Well damn. Now my comment doesn`t make sense. Oh well. Reading the back and forth between people on here was quite amusing :P"
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i love a good huzzah, thanks! :)
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Male 28
It`s the "she simply isn`t attracted to you" aspect of this I don`t get. I suppose people can stay friends when this is made clear, and it`s perfectly fine. Otherwise, I don`t see the point in still talking to the person who doesn`t like you. Talk to their sister or something.
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Male 2,332
Tits..or GTFO!
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Male 716
It`s the instance where girls lead you on despite establishing said `Friend-Zone` because some are merely attention whores.
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Male 468
or...you just like using guys and want them to keep them around knowing they will never leave because they want that chance you`ll change your mind. No. Be bold and tell the poor nerdling so he gets it so they can move on. Don`t prolong the inevitable.
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Male 3,147
@selous

"drat that, chicks are poo friends anyway, if you couldnt drat them you would throw rocks at them"

whilst that made me laugh my tits off, my female mates are great..... my g/f can`t stand them, but that`s her issue, not mine or my friends.
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Male 500
thank you @lostinkorea
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Male 9
I think there`s a large disconnect here between males and females. It`s fairly obvious that everyone (you too ladies) is under the assumption that men think differently than women. They don`t. Once you realize that, you can be friends with the opposite sex, and have happier relationships. Men and Women both think about sex constantly, don`t pretend you don`t. It`s only when two people of the opposite sex agree and realize that that isn`t everything, and that they can get other things out of a friendship with the opposite sex, that they can be friends. Misconceptions and misunderstandings happen because of bad experiences or learned assumptions, and those are just as prevalent with both sexes.
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Male 1,197
drat that, chicks are poo friends anyway, if you couldnt drat them you would throw rocks at them
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Female 170
@thai510
Thank you!
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Female 3,726
SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3019 Posts Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:19:23 PM
It`s pretty clear that there are a lot of men here who hate women. Apparently if a woman doesn`t find you sexy and irresistible it`s because she`s a royal bitch whose too good to have sex with a guy who so clearly deserves her obsessive devotion. Women should know that you`re superior and amazing, any woman who doesn`t want the privilege of getting boned by you and then thrown in the kitchen to cook and give birth to your children is clearly a disgusting human being.
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WOW, put your hand on the computer screen cause I`m sending you a high five! Can we get some input from any of the mature males on IAB?
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Female 3,726
Exactly @Thai510!!
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Female 3,726
""Being in the friend zone is just being led on and on, either cuz they need someone to be emotional with or someone to hang out with cuz every one is busy.""

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People only treat you how you let them treat you. If she`s up front and declares she wants to just be friends, what the hell is wrong with that? Put on your BIG BOY PANTS and either be friends or MOVE ON! I think some people just really need to grow up.
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Male 9
...I`ve got plenty of friends who are girls. Most people just don`t understand how to be friends with the opposite sex unless they grew up with that experience. If you have the mindset that everything is about sex, you will never have a friendship with a girl.
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Male 8
yeaaaaa.....noo this post is full of bulls#@$ i guess the person who post this has never been in the friend zone. The Friend zone is an annoying and awkward place to be in. Saying " The girl KNOWS how you feel" yet all she does is "lets be bestfriends and all the crap". Being in the friend zone is just being led on and on, either cuz they need someone to be emotional with or someone to hang out with cuz every one is busy. If the guy or girl really cared about your feelings He or She wouldn`t sugar coat it. He or she would say " I just want to be friends and nothig more" so please don`t post crap like this. thank you
P.S. I do agree that people should move on if there in the friend zone.
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Female 3,726
And BTW...1.7??? Come on....

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Female 3,726
Wow, 4 pages of comments! Well I can`t be bothered to read all of them so I`ll sum up what I believe.

I do believe that men and women can be friends. I think you need to be honest with your feelings up front (e.g 1 person wants a relationship but the other doesn`t). If you are unable to "handle" a friendship after talking then you need to walk away. No one deserves their feelings hurt. Furthermore, being in a "friendzone" does not mean 1 party is being taken advantage of; that`s where being an ADULT comes in. Don`t send mixed messages and if you can`t handle just being friends then WALK AWAY from the "relationship". It`s really not that difficult.
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Male 2,586
ComplIment is spelled wrong
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Female 1,566
I`ve never cared less~~~
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Male 678
@leesah
You almost sound proud to be a "self absorbed girl with a sense of entitlement." I`ve never hated you more.
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Female 1,203
hmmm seems that the quote I was "huzzah-ing" is not here anymore? Well damn. Now my comment doesn`t make sense. Oh well. Reading the back and forth between people on here was quite amusing :P
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Female 1,203
Huzzah DrProfessor! That was really well said. And it gets to the heart of one of the fundamental misunderstandings between men and women. Unfortunately women are "brainwashed" by culture, friends, family, media whatever to think that men only want sex and that men will only invest emotional time in a women if he expects there to be sexual gratification. It is a dumb stereotype and generalization that women need to figure out isn`t always true. That digression aside, the "friend zone" isn`t strictly for men either. What you described can happen with anyone and it is extremely frustrating regardless of gender. So (to SarahofBorg) the men on i-a-b may come off as pricks about this one, but try to see it from their view. After being in a friend zone it is understandable to be jaded and bitter. However, I did like the idea behind this post. Maybe not the execution of it, but it was trying to show the friend zone from another point of view at least.
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Female 1,566
"you truly sound like a self absorbed girl with a sense of entitlement."

I am. If that`s news to you, well...



You`re telling me "accept people for who they are wahh wahh", well I`m throwing it back at you, accept me for who I am. All of my past boyfriends have, that`s why they stuck around for so long. It`s very cute and sensitive of you to care about the men I used to date though, you are more than welcome to pursue my broken sloppy seconds, with my blessings!
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Female 1,566
"you never give him the intention that it`s a possibility that you`ll have sex, then more power to ya"

That would be correct. I blatantly, outright rejected each of the three guys who continues to buy me gifts. & one lives in the UK so I doubt he really believes he has a chance. That has not yet stopped him from letting me buy myself things with his money.

"All nerds (Y) Would rather play Mario Kart than go to a fancy BS restaurant."

Why is a fancy restaurant BS? You`d rather play Mario Kart than go to a nice restaurant, I`d rather play Mario Kart than cook for the friends you bring over to watch the game. Everyone compromises.
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Female 3,562
It`s pretty clear that there are a lot of men here who hate women. Apparently if a woman doesn`t find you sexy and irresistible it`s because she`s a royal bitch whose too good to have sex with a guy who so clearly deserves her obsessive devotion. Women should know that you`re superior and amazing, any woman who doesn`t want the privilege of getting boned by you and then thrown in the kitchen to cook and give birth to your children is clearly a disgusting human being.
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Male 2,591
I`m never in the friend zone, what a pathetic waste of time.
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Male 1,151
NEVER!!!!
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Male 43
obviously written by a woman who doesn`t understand mans concept of the friend zone
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Male 199
Friend zone means you`re a tool and whom ever wrote this is a virgin or a woman.
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Male 835
Clearly Obama`s fault.
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Male 2,422
You guys have managed to make 5Cats sound reasonable. It must be the end of days.
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Male 2,345

"Ugh, my first boyfriend gave me so much art, and the sick thing is that I kept all of it. That`s all my boyfriends ever have to give me. Maybe that`s why I like other guys buying me real presents."

you truly sound like a self absorbed girl with a sense of entitlement.

let me put it this way for you, "OOHHH I want guys to stop giving me this type of gift and give someone that is realy expensive and nice..."

yeah that is you.

you are still a child, grow up, accept the person for who they are AND NEVER crush a persons dream.

encouraging your ;past boyfriend to quit art school is a I am a pretty pretty little girlED up thing to do.

I am sure that guy is or will be very glad he is no longer with you so he can find a real woman that will care about him for who he is and not what he can give her...by the way...from your pic...yeah not so much. I think you get my meaning.
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Male 2,345
no,no, the friend zone is where women put men when they want constant attention from someone what will do just about anything for them in the pathetic hopes that it will change the girls mind. it is where they put men that they are not interested in but still want someone round to remind them that they are attractive and worthwhile.

A TRUE FRIENDSHIP with a woman IS VERY POSSIBLE but not when one has feelings for the other that are not returned.

a real woman does not friend zone a guy she knows likes him...she moves away from him to spare him and herself the headache and heartache that come from it.

do not believe this total BS about the friend zone being a good thing...this was most likely made by the type of woman that friend zones guys.
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Male 5,413
@ leesah
When I say art, I mean stuff like drawing dicks. We`re immature. Doing artsy paintings is cringeworthy.
Again I don`t know any females like that. All nerds (Y) Would rather play Mario Kart than go to a fancy BS restaurant.
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Male 1,104
@ElectricEye
"LemonCurry look at what you are defending.
VVVVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVV"
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now what exactly am i defending?
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Male 15,510
Im glad to have a stable relationship, so no more "Friends zone" BS for me
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Male 644
Like I said before, guys can put girls in friend zones too.. I have a couple of times..

You can be just friends with a girl, if that`s your only real intention that is. She can even be your wing(wo)man.

Even if there might be some sexual tension, it`s not hard if you`re actually dating other girls.

Now, if you have an actual girlfriend, it`s hard to have another girl as just a friend because of jealousy issues.

@Leesah
I do actually agree with you that when a guy willingly buys you things and you never give him the intention that it`s a possibility that you`ll have sex, then more power to yas... For reals..

If you`re telling him that there IS a possibility and he keeps on buying you stuff because you`re leading him on, then well... You`ll make a great stripper one day.. That is if you got the goods...
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Male 3,625
I have enough friends, thank you. I want a relationship, and if you can`t give that, then I`m moving on.
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Male 3,894
cont`d--...good enough to make her hug me tight and cry a little. After she read it she admitted I was right and said she really enjoyed it.
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Male 3,894
I generally go for intellectually stimulating gifts. I`ll pick a book that I think will particularly interest my girlfriend and impact the way she thinks about life.

"What if your girlfriend doesn`t like books?"

I don`t date anyone like that.

For Christmas, I got my girlfriend an old hardcover copy of Franny and Zooey by JD Salinger, knowing full well that she had a strong dislike for Salinger after reading Catcher in the Rye in high school. I put a little hand-written note inside the cover, basically saying that I could understand why Holden`s character might have turned her off to the book, but that he was supposed to be a childish hypocrite because that`s how real humans behave at his age. I explained that there`s a lot more to Salinger and I hoped she`d give him another chance--this was one of my favorite books and giving it to her felt like handing her a bit of myself. (It was more detailed and eloquent than that--good enough to make her hug
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Male 201
"What I did say was that men and women can`t be friends, and that your somewhat wishful thinking and opportunistic observation that such an insincere `friendship` could "opens up easy doors for potential ladyfriends...she`s likely to throw a good word about you to her friends" was a perfect example of why such friendships don`t work."


my point was that not all flings/dates/relationships need not go into nuclear meltdown, but rather there`s good that can be worked out of it, I`ve got past girlfriends that are still on good terms with me, and maybe I`m some anomaly, but those non-stalker types (I`m serious when I say I`ve had a couple like that, stay away from them like the plague) have gave me good word to friends, and let`s just say good word of mouth can be better than good mouth

*ba-bump-tsh*
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Male 2,729
LemonCurry look at what you are defending.
VVVVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVV VVVVVVVVV
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Female 1,566
"I`d have thought you`d scoff at idealistic, artsy types."

I do. I actively encouraged my last boyfriend to quit art "school" and try for a real job. The artsy liberal types apparently like the abuse.

"The way I showed affection was through giving her personal art (both did art)."

Ugh, my first boyfriend gave me so much art, and the sick thing is that I kept all of it. That`s all my boyfriends ever have to give me. Maybe that`s why I like other guys buying me real presents.
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Male 5,413
pfff, why didn`t evolution endow us with a clear sex willingness indicator, like one`s nose turning bright orange or one`s ears inflating. things might be much simpler.

@LemonCurry
We do have signs like that, just a shame they aren`t obvious.

Also some people need to realise people like Leesah exist. No I don`t agree with what she does or says but people like that do exist. So just forget it and move on

@Leesah
Some men do it because they care. Showering them with jewellery is...generic. The way I showed affection was through giving her personal art (both did art). It means more than spending money because you made it yourself. Sometimes spending money isn`t always bad. Say you get her a book for £5 that`s not flashing the cash. It also doesn`t mean that you want to get into her undies because women aren`t walking sex toys for the sole purpose of scoring.
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Female 2,602


I didn`t say that "all relationships break on bad terms", or that "all men are sex pigs", nor that "all women are estrogen dripping emotional wrecks", so it`s pointless you making comment on those opinions that nobody has expressed.

What I did say was that men and women can`t be friends, and that your somewhat wishful thinking and opportunistic observation that such an insincere `friendship` could "opens up easy doors for potential ladyfriends...she`s likely to throw a good word about you to her friends" was a perfect example of why such friendships don`t work.
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Female 2,602
[quote]easy mcguffin, not all relationships break on bad terms, not all men are sex pigs, and not all women are estrogen dripping emotional wrecks [/quote]
Do you know what a Straw Man argument is, Odd? It`s when you attack a point of view that bears no relation to the point of view expressed by another person, because you can`t find anything to criticise in what they actually said; like you just did there.

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Male 735
I don`t need a damn psychologist!
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Male 1,104
"easy mcguffin, not all relationships break on bad terms, not all men are sex pigs, and not all women are estrogen dripping emotional wrecks"
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you`re definitely right about the women.
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Male 1,284
Life is short, man need to conquer, respect womans but don`t waste youre precious time is my advice
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Male 1,104
@ElectricEye,

are you about done with being childish?
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Male 1,104
pfff, why didn`t evolution endow us with a clear sex willingness indicator, like one`s nose turning bright orange or one`s ears inflating. things might be much simpler.
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Male 201
easy mcguffin, not all relationships break on bad terms, not all men are sex pigs, and not all women are estrogen dripping emotional wrecks

just stating something that`s been obvious, if you took that as me being rational human, well sorry
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Male 3,894
That being said, I was stating that whether through actions, conversation topic or gift-giving, the desired and calculated end result is getting under your frock, meaning that any form of courtship is ultimately douchey. Which is actually something I agree with.
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Male 2,729
leecha`s new profile pic: Doing what she does best, bleeding some poor guy dry.




I present to you Ms. LEECHA


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Male 3,894
That`s actually really intriguing to me--you don`t seem the sort to be attracted to liberal starving artist types at all. From your posts around here, I`d have thought you`d scoff at idealistic, artsy types.
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Male 2,729
leesah = parasite = leech = leesah`s new name = leecha
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Female 1,566
"But on the other hand, you still expect him to court you somehow."

No, I don`t. Every guy I actually date (and usually stick with for at least a year) have all been starving artist intellectuals who probably wouldn`t buy me anything even if they had money. It`s an abysmal thing to be attracted to, especially since I have a ton of cash of my own and I end up paying for everything, and they`re usually liberal, it`s like a fxcking nightmare. But you like what you like, and some guys really like buying me things, and I like letting them.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Friend zone is torture for the guy in question who actually loves the girl. [/quote]

It takes two people to be in love. When one person believes that they one-sidedly love another person that doesn`t reciprocate their feelings, that`s called obsession, not love.
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Male 3,894
@Leesah--I`ll blame it on you, leaving your sex as an irrelevant piece of data. The men are admittedly foolish, for idolizing someone who would treat them like so much trash. Why shouldn`t you accept it? Because it makes you a parasite...which is something you obviously have no problem with.

What exactly is it that you want? Gifts and kindness? "Ha! The guy is just trying to buy his way into my bed!" But on the other hand, you still expect him to court you somehow. You expect him to approach you and treat you in a manner calculated to get you to sleep with him. That`s how a man "earns" his way to be with you, right? Then by the very nature of this setup, anything they do to impress you is "pretty douchey".

On a side note, you wouldn`t happen to get a raging hardon at the mention of Ayn Rand, would you?
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Male 3,445
This picture may be right in certain instances, but it is most certainly not always the truth.
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Female 2,602
[quote]I`m kinda surprised not many have figured this as "flippantly obvious", been there, it`s not bad, if anything, opens up easy doors for potential ladyfriends, think about it, you`re on good terms, and she`s likely to throw a good word about you to her friends[/quote]

Yes, because we`re always telling our girlfriends how good a partner our rejected beaus would make for them, and they`re always so flattered and grateful that we`d think to pass people we didn`t fancy their way.

Attitudes like the above, guys, FWIW are *the reason* men and women can`t be friends, especially when one of them fancies the other. It`s *always* merely a rationalisation for one of them to further their personal goals (in this case, getting a cheap shag off of the object of your rejected affections` girlfriends).
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Male 687
Friend zone is torture for the guy in question who actually loves the girl.
In my opinion and experience girls who do something like this are just cold hearted. Pure and simple.
Also..may i say that the spelling in the text is awful
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Male 40,326
There`s nothing wrong with "the friend zone" so long as the guy understands that that`s it, no nookie for him!

Then you treat her pretty much the same as your guy friends! Simple really.

There`s a world of difference between being a friend and pathetically hopeing for some pity pussy...
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Male 677
@leesah
Maybe you should hop into bed with them. You sound in need of a good ol` fasioned d*cking.
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Female 1,566
"being a victim of a gold-digger like leesah over there"

bzzzzt, wrong, gold diggers give it up for their jewelry, my guys are merely getting thank yous.
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Female 1,566
"That`s a horrible, degrading way to treat a human being and is in no way win-win."

What part about "willing" did you not understand? I don`t ask for things. I am given things by guys who know they have no chance and think they can buy me. Why SHOULDN`T I take full advantage of that situation? It`s in their little men minds that if they keep showering me with jewelry and clothing and shoes I`ll hop in bed with them. That`s a pretty douchey mindset, don`t you think? But you go ahead and blame it on the woman if it makes you feel more secure and masculine. ;]
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Male 5,413
Crabes: Its simple for me, man and woman cannot be friends, friendzone is somewhere a man doesnt wanna be and its really bad for self-esteem,

@Crabes
I think it depends. Sometimes if you know she`s a nice person(not deceitful) then you can be in the friendzone and not have a low self esteem. Those are the kind of females you respect when they turn you down because they don`t crap on you in the process.

Seems here though that the females have it easy. I wonder if they would go through the same lengths men would?
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Male 1,284
But there is a difference between being in a friendzone and being a victim of a gold-digger like leesah over there
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Male 1,104
"The friend zone is where I keep the guys who willingly buy me nice things but are too ugly to actually get with."
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one of our primal instincts. chimps trade sex or the promise thereof all the time for favors. who knows, perhaps birds, snails and grasshoppers do that to, i haven`t looked into it yet.
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Male 1,104
All you need is a little bit of duct tape to bypass the friendzone.
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i don`t get this, what do you need duct tape for? bit of bondage?
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Male 415
@Leesah: I quite agree, you are not a troll. A bitch, most likely, but that`s something entirely different.
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Male 201
I`m kinda surprised not many have figured this as "flippantly obvious", been there, it`s not bad, if anything, opens up easy doors for potential ladyfriends, think about it, you`re on good terms, and she`s likely to throw a good word about you to her friends
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Male 1,104
friendship se x always beats friendzone.
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Male 2,841
All you need is a little bit of duct tape to bypass the friendzone.
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Male 3,894
No, because I would rather give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you say horrible things to get a rise out of people than believe you actually act the way you say. That`s a horrible, degrading way to treat a human being and is in no way win-win.
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Female 1,566
"Leesah, you`re quite a troll."

Why? Because my opinions and how I conduct myself is not that exact same way as you? Well I`ll be damned, this place is full of trolls!
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Male 1,625
[quote]for whatever reason[/quote]

its because you`re too nice to her, unlike the jerks she`s been dating
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Male 1,284
`Of course they can. It`s just that one or both of them needs to be gay. `

1 internet point for you macguffin
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Female 2,602
[quote]man and woman cannot be friends[/quote]

Of course they can. It`s just that one or both of them needs to be gay.
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Male 1,284
Its simple for me, man and woman cannot be friends, friendzone is somewhere a man doesnt wanna be and its really bad for self-esteem,
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Male 3,894
Leesah, you`re quite a troll.
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Female 1,566
The friend zone is where I keep the guys who willingly buy me nice things but are too ugly to actually get with. It`s not like they don`t know what`s going on, they`re just clinging to that nonexistent glimmer of hope in their minds and I`m clinging to their wallet. Win/win.
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Female 1,478
THIS IS WHAT I`VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG! Thank you, whoever made this.
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Male 5,413
I have to agree with you there swoop, but not as...harsh. I think some end up being blinded rather than forgetting their way.

Honestly, I`ve never heard of "The Friend Zone" but if only females have, sounds like a double standard to me.
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Female 2,602
Something tells me you`re living right in the middle of TFZ, DrP.
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Male 1,754
Sorry, but the "friend zone" is dedicated to men with no self respect who continually make sacrifices and do favors for a woman that will never sleep with them. A woman who knows full well what she`s doing and takes complete advantage. The "friend zone" is for men who have forgotten their way....
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Male 3,894
This has just come to mind--the `friendzone` complaint might be more based on the fact that in our culture, women are viewed (by both themselves and others) as a "prize" and in order to have a relationship with them, a man must "earn" the woman. So if a perfectly worthy guy is friends with a desirable woman, and she ignores him because he isn`t competing with other men to "earn her", he does have a valid complaint--why should he have to try and get her attention? Why can`t she initiate a relationship with this guy? In an age of "sexual equality", shouldn`t there be more... you know, equality? Why treat a man as though he should consider himself lucky that you chose him out of the pack of raging boners chomping at the bit to get in your pants?

Why can`t two people who are close and emotionally attached to one another just be together, instead of having to go through the whole "proving ground" phase of courtship?
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Female 2,602
[quote]So if a girl thinks you`re a nice guy, but doesn`t want to sleep with you, what would you rather she do? Kick you in the nuts and run away?[/quote]

No. When I`ve had to let several guys (and one woman) know that I didn`t reciprocate their feelings in the past, the way I did it was I said, "thankyou for asking me, but I`m not attracted to you". I`d never string somebody along, patronise them by pretending that their physical attraction to me was any kind of a basis for friendship, or presume to give them advice or platitudes to water down the message they needed to hear. That`s showing them real respect rather than pity, and it lets them move on.
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Male 3,894
That being said, the thing about the friendzone is that it`s usually a result of your own timidity. If you don`t present yourself to a girl as a sexual being, she will treat you as just a friend. You have to just stop over-thinking things and be flirtatious. If it doesn`t work, don`t take it too personally--it doesn`t mean you`re not attractive by any means. All it means is that this one particular girl has a taste in men that you don`t fit.

Is it fair that men have to always make the advances and take the risks in forming a relationship? Not really, but it`s something we`re stuck with and our best bet is to learn how to make the best of it.
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Female 375
"Can`t say I agree. Any woman that offers you `friendship` when you`re seeking love is not "being nice" to you, she`s being patronising."

So if a girl thinks you`re a nice guy, but doesn`t want to sleep with you, what would you rather she do? Kick you in the nuts and run away?
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Male 3,894
Yes and no. I mean, it`s not fair to assume that every woman should be attracted to you so long as you`re "nice". Everybody has a certain aesthetic they prefer, or a certain personality type, or.. well, there are a large number of factors that go into determining whether you like someone.

But the `friendzone` complaint isn`t necessarily invalid. If you`ve been close to a girl for some time, watched her stumble into relationships that were doomed from day 1 (the guy was an obvious a*swipe and/or womanizer), and all the while she complained to you that ALL SHE WANTS IN A GUY is for him to be kind, gentle, attentive and loving...well, that doesn`t make a whole lot of sense. She`s most likely simplifying her description, but it`s hugely frustrating to see someone you really care about actively seeking the things she claims to despise, and ignoring you, when you seem to fit every criterion she`s given you.
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Male 714
how incredibly banal.
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Male 644
It`s not just a one way street you know...

A guy can "friendzone" a girl too... I have a couple of times myself.
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Male 1,595
No clue what friendzone is.
Should I know?
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Female 2,602
Can`t say I agree. Any woman that offers you `friendship` when you`re seeking love is not "being nice" to you, she`s being patronising. And any man that accepts such `friendship` when he really wants a closer relationship is being deceitful, if only to himself. Same thing if the roles were reversed (though this happens far less often to women than to men - I can`t think of a single woman I know that`s in any man`s `friend zone`).
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Male 5,094
Well, there`s two kinds, the one described here and the "Hey, I can make this loser do pretty much anything I want.".
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Male 7,774
But she`ll still string you along in case she can`t do any better.
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Male 289
thats not being friendzoned, thats being rejected and told your a friend. the friendzone is when the girl knows your interested in her, and instead of rejection, uses you to do poo for her, with the hope that "maybe soon it`ll happen"
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Female 3,726
Link: Man Tip #1,498 [Pic] [Rate Link] - I`ve been saying this my whole life!
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